In the middle of the show that is on right now, he's using a "prototype" curado. Only had a glimpse of it so far
Not surprising as he gets his hands on all the pre-release gear. Would be nice to see a close-up of it, though.
Since I don't get the show, what color is it - can you tell?
I saw that too, but didn't get a good look at it. Shimano is killing me! I wanna know what they're gonna release!
Ive seen a couple of shots of it but they are really keeping it out of shots. Really putting the reel to the test on red fish and jacks
It looks to me like he's using a Calcutta 200D. I have it recorded so I'll watch it again from the beginning and see if I can see it.
Shimano can't do any worse then the G they released..
He was towards the end. Watch towards the middle they give a descrip of what hes using and show it a couple timesOn 1/18/2014 at 9:31 AM, Jrob78 said:It looks to me like he's using a Calcutta 200D. I have it recorded so I'll watch it again from the beginning and see if I can see it.
maybe this @ 48 secs
I'm pretty sure that's a Calcutta. I have no doubt that he was using the prototype some on that trip, you just never get a good look at it during the show.
or these
nevermind they look like the met
It's so hard to tell. We'll all know what they look like next month.
but the one at 48 sec has a silver reel handle nut and he using it in salt water
nevermind again it looks like the calcutta
On 1/18/2014 at 10:10 AM, THE_Vue said:but the one at 48 sec has a silver reel handle nut and he using it in salt water
Nevermind
I thot of th met, but when he i heard protoype curado my ears listened with excitement... I thot same thing as it was 2 tone with dif handles... Guess we'll have to wait til next icast.... Lol
On 1/19/2014 at 7:18 AM, ULG said:I thot of th met, but when he i heard protoype curado my ears listened with excitement... I thot same thing as it was 2 tone with dif handles... Guess we'll have to wait til next icast.... Lol
Maybe sooner than that. Bantam said they were going to release some new products at the Bassmaster Classic
I thought they were metanium
That will work too! It always seems like most of the stuff is for sale or avaialible for reserve way before anyway. But not made a big deal of until classic or icast. Either way curious to see whats its all about. Maybe goin to b more metal made like the old the d series, either way, looking forward to gettin a couple when they drop for sure!!!!
Shimano could make an aluminum frame & both sideplates lightweight reel. Take the Helios its a nice solid feeling 6.3oz all AL f&sp reel at the $200 point. They should build it back in Japan as well.
On 1/19/2014 at 10:02 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Shimano could make an aluminum frame & both sideplates lightweight reel. Take the Helios its a nice solid feeling 6.3oz all AL f&sp reel at the $200 point. They should build it back in Japan as well.
I think you missed out returning your Helios. I like the Komodo better at 6.5 ounces, so much so I bought the Helios Air to try out.
Another thing to consider is the prototypes may or may not have the cosmetics that the final product will have. The fact that they are already replacing the G series suggests that they realize they disappointed a lot of people. I expect the new Curado to be a very good reel, they can't afford to blow this one.
There's no way they can let the new Curado be substandard to the Tatula... it would be death to the reel. I fully expect it to be a true upgrade from the Curado e series this time. Can't wait.
Ill be happy with it as long as there's a 50 size and there's NO red in it.
I dunno what Z has. It looks like the proto that I've seen, but a different color. The proto that I've handled, I know, isn't going to be anything close to the finished reel- I'm totally blind to what it's going to be. I know it's going to be a substantial change, but that's all I can venture. It's been confirmed, as well, that they are a Classic Release reel.
Unless he was just trying to divert speculation about it being based on an older frame (Rev B?), bantam1 has said that the profile of the reel is a new retooling not based on another frame. He might have just meant older frame, which would be fine by me. If it's the Chronarch Ci4 or Metanium frame style but made of aluminum, I'd like that.
At any rate, I'm beyond excited for this. I'm not as hateful or dismissive of the G series, but if they want to make a better reel for around the same price, I'm all for it. I'm very fond of my Chronarch Ci4+, though. So, I'm hoping it comes in a standard 150 size or have a 50 size option available.
Fuel for the fire, this was borrowed from another site.
Here is the new model numbers:
CU200I Shimano CU200I Curado Cast Reel 6 Brg 6.3:1 180/8 155/10 110/14 RH (02225518410)
CU200IHG Shimano CU200IHG Curado Cast Reel 6 Brg 7.2:1 180/8 155/10 110/14 RH (02225518414)
CU201IHG Shimano CU201IHG Curado Cast Reel 6 Brg 7.2:1 180/8 155/10 110/14 LH (02225518416)
Should retail at $164.99
Boooo! no 50/51 size
On 1/20/2014 at 3:46 AM, iabass8 said:Boooo! no 50/51 size
Who knows, that post may be as real as the Easter bunny. There are a few reports of guys that have had the reel in hand, and even a report of a sporting goods store that has one on display.
I just found this video on youtube of Shimano's 2014 releases. At the end when it goes through all the new products, there is a casting reel that gets skipped over. It's between the spinning reels and the rods. You can't see anything really but I bet that's the Curado. Look at about the 3:07 mark. Some of the rods look cool too, btw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYazOCfILwU
On 1/20/2014 at 4:56 AM, aprw1 said:I think it was just showing the Ci4+ because that was the beginning of the cycle of new products that went around in a circle, and you could just see it in the background..
Yeah, you are probably right.
Considering all the reports on a few other forums of people seeing them when reps bring them to shops and such, I can't believe a pic hasn't surfaced. Good job on keeping that ship tight! I can't wait to see the darn thing. And I'm curious what other reels and rods they're going to introduce. Assuming a new Citica?
You have already seen it before, you just don't know it..
New citica is a mystery right now, but bantam says there will be MULTIPLE releases this classic show... Maybe there will be.
On 1/22/2014 at 9:14 PM, aprw1 said:You have already seen it before, you just don't know it..
New citica is a mystery right now, but bantam says there will be MULTIPLE releases this classic show... Maybe there will be.
Chronarchs are still on clearance at local Gander.
200hg centrifugal braking...but 20 position side plate adjustability. Gears... Like the new Calcutta D.... Silver color... Brand new platform and I hear it is awesome. 7.2.1 5.5.1 no 50 size...
179.99$
Late Feb. release
That's all I know.... Treat this as a rumor... But I know this guy!
Also it's suppose to be a game changing event...sorta a pride thing
I can't wait!!!
On 1/22/2014 at 9:18 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Chronarchs are still on clearance at local Gander.
Chronarchs ? For real?
On 1/23/2014 at 2:50 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Chronarchs ? For real?
I looked, and all I saw was Curados.
Hootie
On 1/23/2014 at 2:55 AM, hootiebenji said:I looked, and all I saw was Curados.
Hootie
Thank you sir very kindly!
You all have already seen the what the new curado looks like, you just don't know it. I have heard from multiple sources that it looks exactly like a certain reel presently made.
On 1/23/2014 at 3:24 AM, aprw1 said:You all have already seen the what the new curado looks like, you just don't know it. I have heard from multiple sources that it looks exactly like a certain reel presently made.
I am sorta assuming that ci4+ 150 is close
On 1/23/2014 at 2:50 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Chronarchs ? For real?
Yes
the curados and chronarchs went on clearance around Thanksgiving
On 1/23/2014 at 4:12 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Yes
the curados and chronarchs went on clearance around Thanksgiving
Wow... I didn't know the chronarch was going away.... At my local BPS still 199.99
On 1/23/2014 at 4:23 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Wow... I didn't know the chronarch was going away.... At my local BPS still 199.99
Just checked Gander mountain web site again.
Still seeing $199.99 for the E series Chronarchs.
Am I missing something?
Hootie
On 1/23/2014 at 3:24 AM, aprw1 said:You all have already seen the what the new curado looks like, you just don't know it. I have heard from multiple sources that it looks exactly like a certain reel presently made.
Hopefully its like the anteras, that reel is a thing of beauty. Although I heard its the same platform as either the Chronarch ci4 or Metanium.
My guess is its going to be the ci4 since they already have a Chronarch in that form, which I find rather ugly. But either way after the G series flopped I'm sure it will be one boss of a reel.
About the sale at gander mountain - often times their in store sales and online sales are different. I had a chat with one of their sales people and he told me they often do that to get rid of stuff they have too much stock of, and they will usually honor it in-store (but it has to be the exact model). From what I've seen Dicks works the same way. Its confusing and makes me not want to shop there, but if you're vigilant and willing to ask to check on prices you can find really good deals.
I don't like the look of the ci4+ 150 either.. It's sorta over elongated in appearance and a lot of flash was present on the reel seat. Over priced..IMO ! I hear they are really awesome caster. But so are my reels...stock e's and ca 200 te gt's but I maybe wrong
Anyway we don't have long to wait now!
Many stores do the same, look at cabelas, you can get the daiwa excelsior in store for $35 but the web price is $45
On 1/23/2014 at 4:42 AM, hootiebenji said:Just checked Gander mountain web site again.
Still seeing $199.99 for the E series Chronarchs.
Am I missing something?
Hootie
In store only...
It is not the same platform as the antares.. I think you will REALLY like this reel. It has all the fancy things you were hoping for.. That's all for now.
On 1/22/2014 at 9:18 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Chronarchs are still on clearance at local Gander.
On 1/23/2014 at 4:42 AM, hootiebenji said:Just checked Gander mountain web site again.
Still seeing $199.99 for the E series Chronarchs.
Am I missing something?
Hootie
At my LOCAL Gandr Mnt didnt say website
If some reports hold the new curado will be 179 that a little close to the 199 chrony???
New curado will not be under $199... Sorry to ruin the party.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:06 AM, aprw1 said:New curado will not be under $199... Sorry to ruin the party.
Ok so.... You know for fun...just guessing ....what's you're guess on price? Just for fun!
LOL
gets worse and worse 165 to 180 now 200 or so for a non Japan made reel nxt check will see 220
On 1/23/2014 at 5:56 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:At my LOCAL Gandr Mnt didnt say website
I see, I got it, oh okay, yeah, there it is.
Thank you OH SO very much....lol.
Hootie
You can't have a better Curado with more technology and updated materials and expect the price to stay the same. If I remember correctly, the Curado D was a $199 reel, the E actually went down and the G went down again. I would much rather pay $200 for a better reel. They tried a budget friendly reel in the G, that didn't go over too well. You can't have it both ways.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:24 AM, Jrob78 said:You can't have a better Curado with more technology and updated materials and expect the price to stay the same. If I remember correctly, the Curado D was a $199 reel, the E actually went down and the G went down again. I would much rather pay $200 for a better reel. They tried a budget friendly reel in the G, that didn't go over too well. You can't have it both ways.
Exactly this ^. Expect to see the quality and solidity of the D series.
To get the quality you are looking for, you have to pay a bit more.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:12 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Ok so.... You know for fun...just guessing ....what's you're guess on price? Just for fun!
It isn't a guess really.. Multiple sources have told me the pricing will be at least $199. You will get MUCH more out of your two bills with a new curado compared to the chronarch E. I promise.
I love how everyone's own 'source' knows what's real. Keep the speculations comming!
On 1/23/2014 at 6:57 AM, tomustang said:I love how everyone's own 'source' knows what's real. Keep the speculations comming!
Havent seen any 50 size reports shimano must be doing away with 50's.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:14 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:LOL
gets worse and worse 165 to 180 now 200 or so for a non Japan made reel nxt check will see 220
Would you rather them charge $430 for a all carbon composite reel NOT made in Japan like some other company is doing? lol
On 1/23/2014 at 7:02 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Havent seen any 50 size reports shimano must be doing away with 50's.
They don't normally release the 50 size reels, previously the 100 size reels, at the same time as the 100/200 size reels. If there is going to be a smaller version it will come later. They only did it with the Chronarch E because they already had the tooling and were already making the Curado 50E.
Ok..... I will say this I never liked Shimano reels. Long time Diawa guy and lews.... When Shimano brought HEG To freshwater baitcasters I bought a 200d 5.1 and was blown away. Unloaded all my reels and have used Shimano ever since. It really was the best 200.00$ reel I ever bought I have many Shimanos now and will stand by this company... For me this speculation.. It's just fun.. That's all just good ole fun!
On 1/23/2014 at 6:06 AM, aprw1 said:New curado will not be under $199... Sorry to ruin the party.
From the sounds of it, its supposed to be 169.99. At least according to the couple people that have handled them. Who knows.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:24 AM, Jrob78 said:You can't have a better Curado with more technology and updated materials and expect the price to stay the same. If I remember correctly, the Curado D was a $199 reel, the E actually went down and the G went down again. I would much rather pay $200 for a better reel. They tried a budget friendly reel in the G, that didn't go over too well. You can't have it both ways.
Tatula for the win then
On 1/23/2014 at 8:19 AM, Fattygreens said:Tatula for the win then
That's something we'll all have to decide for ourselves. That's the fun part
If they charge more than 200 they are encroaching into the ci4+ market. Why would they step on their own foot? I have a feeling they might discontinue the chronarch and put this curado in that price point, or they will keep it at 160, which makes no sense if it does fish better than a chronarch.
200 is an important price point, they need to have a competitive reel there....what else is going to fill that role? Also, the curado name has been their 'work horse' reel. If they charge any more it move out of the average enthusiast's price range.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:24 AM, Jrob78 said:You can't have a better Curado with more technology and updated materials and expect the price to stay the same. If I remember correctly, the Curado D was a $199 reel, the E actually went down and the G went down again. I would much rather pay $200 for a better reel. They tried a budget friendly reel in the G, that didn't go over too well. You can't have it both ways.
Well, they could, depending on what their profit margins are on the G series Curado. They could dip into that if there is room.
Multiple new reel (and rod) releases this year. Wouldn't be surprised if the Citica and the Chronarch also get updates.
It would be unfortunate if the Curado, their workhorse reel at an affordable price point for many years, jumped out of that price bracket. So, maybe they are going to release a new reel to compete in that highly competitive price point to compete with the Tatula? You'd think they'd keep the Curado name there, but as long as that reel is a good one that is fine with me. However, if they move the Curado above $200 I would most likely just get the Chronarch Ci4+. I have one already and it's awesome.
Why not just discontinue the chronarch e series and introduce the curado there. Seems weird to have both chronarch and chronarch ci4....
On 1/23/2014 at 8:47 AM, Grantman83 said:Why not just discontinue the chronarch e series and introduce the curado there. Seems weird to have both chronarch and chronarch ci4....
They haven't done it with the Stradic yet. There is still the "regular" and the Ci4
True....but If the new curado is going to have features of the ci4, then why keep regular chronarch which many may view as a step down..
On 1/23/2014 at 7:54 AM, Jrob78 said:They don't normally release the 50 size reels, previously the 100 size reels, at the same time as the 100/200 size reels. If there is going to be a smaller version it will come later. They only did it with the Chronarch E because they already had the tooling and were already making the Curado 50E.
I did read that the Core was going to be discontinued. I do not have one.. I may grab one But i will wait and see what the new curado is like first
I don't imagine the Chronarch E will be around for much longer. It will be directly competing with the new Curado, the Ch CI4 puts the Chronarch back at the price point it belongs and the E series reels have been around since '09. That is purely speculation on my part though.
On 1/23/2014 at 8:27 AM, Gaerith said:If they charge more than 200 they are encroaching into the ci4+ market. Why would they step on their own foot? I have a feeling they might discontinue the chronarch and put this curado in that price point, or they will keep it at 160, which makes no sense if it does fish better than a chronarch.
200 is an important price point, they need to have a competitive reel there....what else is going to fill that role? Also, the curado name has been their 'work horse' reel. If they charge any more it move out of the average enthusiast's price range.
It will probably be 199.99
On 1/23/2014 at 9:00 AM, Alonerankin2 said:I did read that the Core was going to be discontinued. I do not have one.. I may grab one But i will wait and see what the new curado is like first
core will probably get an update. I am guessing SVS infinity and x-ship..
On 1/23/2014 at 8:47 AM, Grantman83 said:Why not just discontinue the chronarch e series and introduce the curado there. Seems weird to have both chronarch and chronarch ci4....
That is exactly what is going to happen I think.
On 1/23/2014 at 8:27 AM, Gaerith said:If they charge more than 200 they are encroaching into the ci4+ market. Why would they step on their own foot? I have a feeling they might discontinue the chronarch and put this curado in that price point, or they will keep it at 160, which makes no sense if it does fish better than a chronarch.
200 is an important price point, they need to have a competitive reel there....what else is going to fill that role? Also, the curado name has been their 'work horse' reel. If they charge any more it move out of the average enthusiast's price range.
The chronarch E is priced at $199 and it doesn't quite enroach the ci4+ market.. The new curado is likely going to be priced at 199 as well, so I don't think it will be a problem..
If the curado was priced lower than $199, no one would buy the Ci4+ because the curado would be so much cheaper. Yeah, it's that good.
On 1/23/2014 at 8:19 AM, Fattygreens said:Tatula for the win then
That is purely personal opinion..
I can't say anymore or I will get myself into trouble! LOL
On 1/23/2014 at 6:24 AM, Jrob78 said:You can't have a better Curado with more technology and updated materials and expect the price to stay the same. If I remember correctly, the Curado D was a $199 reel, the E actually went down and the G went down again. I would much rather pay $200 for a better reel. They tried a budget friendly reel in the G, that didn't go over too well. You can't have it both ways.
If Daiwa can come out with a great(by all indication so far) tatula at 150 with new tech tws air rotation shimano could bring out the new curado with its somewhat newer tech x ship- braking system.
People would still buy the Ci4+ because it's that good. It's light and casts light lures very well. Hopefully Shimano doesn't neglect the $150 price point, otherwise they're missing an important demographic.
All of this speculation was exciting but now it's just getting annoying hahah
On 1/23/2014 at 7:45 AM, bootytrain said:Would you rather them charge $430 for a all carbon composite reel NOT made in Japan like some other company is doing? lol
At the rate the speculated price is rising it will pass that by the time it debuts.
On 1/23/2014 at 11:00 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:If Daiwa can come out with a great(by all indication so far) tatula at 150 with new tech tws air rotation shimano could bring out the new curado with its somewhat newer tech x ship- braking system.
I suppose they could but they're in the business of making money. I'm not sure what the B series originally cost but Curado's haven't been $150 reels in at least 10 years, maybe longer. Things don't normally go down in price, especially after they have been improved upon. Most people don't want a cheaper, watered down Curado. The Citica has always been a quality reel at the sub $150 price point.
On 1/23/2014 at 6:57 AM, tomustang said:I love how everyone's own 'source' knows what's real. Keep the speculations comming!
I'm extremely up to date on product releases and, in particular, Shimano reels. This one is so tight, I'd be extremely surprised if there are more than a handful of people on this forum that actually have current info on it. Like I said, when I initially posted here, the proto I handled is nothing close to the release version. As to what that release is, I haven't the faintest, even MY guys have been tight lipped about it and I usually have new reels in hand a solid five months before most.
Woah!!!! Looks like I'm gonna be broke:)
On 1/23/2014 at 8:47 AM, Grantman83 said:Why not just discontinue the chronarch e series and introduce the curado there. Seems weird to have both chronarch and chronarch ci4....
Exactly what I was thinking.
Hootie
Meh on the color scheme prefer the type j but maybe the profile will have something.
Looks 100x better than in that pic
That's a very nice looking reel... First I have seen I knew the partial spec. Sheet but do not not if it's aluminum framed or ci4+ ? I bet aluminum !
Enlarged photo... Pretty sure it's metal star drag is back , also brake side is swollen substantial for the new braking system . Well just a guess but I think our E series reels may have just devalued ... Just a bit!
Except our 300e's
I was really hoping for something other than silver