Spinning rod love! 2024
BoatSquirrel reply :
Why do people hate spinning rods?
MN Fisher reply :
Don't ask me - 60% of my arsenal is spinning rods.
Glaucus reply :
Constantly flipping the bail, wind knots, the slower techniques and lighter lines associated with their use, not as accurate, etc.
I, however, love them. Whereas a lot of guys carry very few (maybe 1-3) spinning outfits in their lineup, about 40% of my setups are spinning setups. Well, it isn't so much that I love the spinning setups themselves, but that I love finesse fishing. I'm not so stubborn that I'll try to use a baitcaster for a drop shot, Ned Rig, etc because I also don't reach for the screwdriver to hammer nails or the fork to eat soup.
portiabrat reply :
Some guys are lucky, because they never have to throw light baits in windy conditions.
I don't know any musky guys who use spinning gear, except in late fall, when levelwinds freeze and break.
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
I have one but it don't much love.
Power fishing gets the baitcasters
Mike L reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:00 AM, Glaucus said:Constantly flipping the bail, wind knots, the slower techniques and lighter lines associated with their use, not as accurate, etc.
Ditto!
etc etc
Mike
MIbassyaker reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:00 AM, Glaucus said:Constantly flipping the bail, wind knots, the slower techniques and lighter lines associated with their use, not as accurate, etc.
The accuracy claim is the one I don't understand. There is no good reason for a spinning rod to be inherently less accurate than a baitcaster. I rather suspect this claim is based on simply having less experience (i.e., less practice) casting to targets with spinning rods than with baitcasters.
Yakalong reply :
I use them with no complaints.
MN Fisher reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:24 AM, MIbassyaker said:
The accuracy claim is the one I don't understand. There is no good reason for a spinning rod to to be inherently less accurate than a baitcaster. I rather suspect this claim is based on simply having less experience (i.e., less practice) casting to targets with spinning rods than baitcasters.
I have to agree. I got my first (good) spinning reel when I was 12, my first baitcaster when I was 27. My accuracy with the spinning reel is built on 15 more years of experience with it. I dare-say I can hit a target with my spinners easier than I can with my baitcasters.
NHBull reply :
Thumb vs Finger and a little arthritis......make the BC easier.
But skipping is easier for me with spinning gear
nascar2428 reply :
Love spinning rods, wouldn't leave home without a couple of em. I catch a lot of fish the power fishers miss because they won't use a spinning setup.
MartinTheFisherman reply :
I don't even have my first bait caster... 
I still need to master the works of the spinning reel...
JLindsey reply :
Cuz they don’t make a cool WHIZZZZZZ noise, duh
Glaucus reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:24 AM, MIbassyaker said:
The accuracy claim is the one I don't understand. There is no good reason for a spinning rod to be inherently less accurate than a baitcaster. I rather suspect this claim is based on simply having less experience (i.e., less practice) casting to targets with spinning rods than with baitcasters.
I can pitch to a target with a lot more accuracy than I can get out of a spinning rod. I'm backwards in that I started on casting gear, but I know for a fact I've spent more hours with spinning gear. Casting something like a squarebill is a lot more accurate with casting gear too. However if I'm casting a soft plastic in a traditional way, the spinning rod is more accurate. This is just me.
jbmaine reply :
All spinning for me, no complaints, no birds nests either.
Glaucus reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:42 AM, JLindsey said:Cuz they don’t make a cool WHIZZZZZZ noise, duh
Yeah but I'm confident in saying that there is no better sound in fishing than a fish peeling drag on a spinning reel. So satisfying.
Scott F reply :
I like fishing light lines, with light rods, and smallish lures. I prefer smallies and the water where they live. Dragging fish out of heavy weeds, skiing them back to the boat with with baitcasters isn’t the way I like to fish.
teamfyss reply :
Being from South Dakota, 90% of the population targets walleye and I grew up with a spinning rod in hand. Now that I’m getting the hang of baitcasters I don’t even want to go back to spinning gear, yet I know how reliable and simple they are to use.. ????
Log Catcher reply :
I usually take two spinning setups when I go fishing. Don't mind using them but only get the out when I can't get a bite on a baitcaster.
MIbassyaker reply :
I use spinning and baitcasting about half and half, and some presentations I fish on both more or less interchangeably, such as light texas rigs, jerkbaits, and some shallow crankbaits.
But if I ever go somewhere and bring just one rod, it is a spinning rod.
haggard reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 7:52 AM, BoatSquirrel said:Why do people hate spinning rods?
Different tools for different jobs.
Jaderose reply :
They are a tool. I use spin/BC rods/reels about equally depending on what I'm doing
Tennessee Boy reply :
I can't imagine life without both and probably use each about 50% of the time. I know people that only use spinning rods and I know people that only use BC rods. To each his own.
Bassguytom reply :
I like both. I use spinning in the river for smallies exclusively and both for largemouth depending on what I’m doing. I am accurate with both but can hit holes in weeds more accurate with a baitcaster.
Tyler. reply :
What’s the opinion on using spinning rod for cranks, swim baits, and spinner baits? If you like them what gear ration you use? Got a lews xfinity combo from Walmart and it’s 6:2.1. Curious if that ration would be sufficient for those baits.
Munkin reply :
I don't hate them but only use them for baits too light to cast with a baitcaster. As far as accuracy I think it just depends on what you like and how much experience you have. Me personally I can cast a jig into a shot glass at 25' with a baitcaster but cannot hit the broad side of a barn with a spinning rod. Just like senkos I know I need spinning rods but they are definitely not my first choice.
Allen
MN Fisher reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 9:44 AM, Tyler. said:What’s the opinion on using spinning rod for cranks, swim baits, and spinner baits? If you like them what gear ration you use? Got a lews xfinity combo from Walmart and it’s 6:2.1. Curious if that ration would be sufficient for those baits.
It's not the gear ratio that matters - it's the Inches per Turn. I run smaller cranks and spinners (1/2 oz and less) on my Trion which has a 25.9 IPT on a 5.2:1 gear ratio. I think a 6.2:1 would at least be able to handle those. I wouldn't run swimbaits on only a medium power rod though...unless the rod rating can handle the weight. Most swimbaits are too heavy to be easily cast with a Medium power.
Manly Studson reply :
I’m not sure if anyone can relate, but I’m more accurate with a spinning rod at close range and more accurate with a casting rod at long range. On lakes I use casting rods, in streams I use spinning gear.
On 4/10/2019 at 8:44 AM, Glaucus said:Yeah but I'm confident in saying that there is no better sound in fishing than a fish peeling drag on a spinning reel. So satisfying.
I agree. The sound of fish on (spinning) is better than the sound of a cast (casting).
A-Jay reply :
I use both.
Some light line techniques & presentations seem to lend themselves exclusively to spinning gear for me.
Others, routinely heavier gear deals, are most often done with revolving spool tackle in my fishing.
There are a few baits / presentations where I can & do use both; jerkbaits & blade baits immediately come to mind.
A-Jay
Tyler. reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 9:50 AM, MN Fisher said:
It's not the gear ratio that matters - it's the Inches per Turn. I run smaller cranks and spinners (1/2 oz and less) on my Trion which has a 25.9 IPT on a 5.2:1 gear ratio. I think a 6.2:1 would at least be able to handle those. I wouldn't run swimbaits on only a medium power rod though...unless the rod rating can handle the weight. Most swimbaits are too heavy to be easily cast with a Medium power.
Gotcha. So most my swim baits are like 1/4 oz. and my rod rated 1/8-1/2 oz.
i tied 1/2oz lure on it in the back yard to see how far I could cast. With a flip of the wrist it was sent flying. I run braid with fluoro leader tied on with fg knot.
I have had my leader knot break a few times at the knot when casting my baitcaster. This occurred when I tried to cast to the moon so I’m paranoid to try too hard now on my spinning gear.
On 4/10/2019 at 9:50 AM, MN Fisher said:
It's not the gear ratio that matters - it's the Inches per Turn. I run smaller cranks and spinners (1/2 oz and less) on my Trion which has a 25.9 IPT on a 5.2:1 gear ratio. I think a 6.2:1 would at least be able to handle those. I wouldn't run swimbaits on only a medium power rod though...unless the rod rating can handle the weight. Most swimbaits are too heavy to be easily cast with a Medium power.
Is this what you got? 40 size reel?
MN Fisher reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 10:17 AM, Tyler. said:Is this what you got? 40 size reel?
Nope (see my signature)...I've got a 30 that I bought separate, mounted it on an Ugly Stick GX-2. Might be upgrading the rod next winter...though it worked well last year. We'll see.
AC870 reply :
I like fishing around boat docks with spinning gear. You can toss that bait into some nooks and crannies.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I'm not sure I would have caught one of the around 2 dozen fish I caught last Friday if I didn't keep a spinning rod in my hand so much. No hate from me, they both serve their purpose. I love fighting fish on light line and some of my favorite techniques are predominately spinning reel techniques.
GreenPig reply :
My spinning rods with a shakey head/ Ned rig/ dropshot have saved me from countless skunkings.
Jrob78 reply :
I never touched a spinning rod until I was probably 17 (been fishing my whole life). I own them but don't like using them, no hate, just don't enjoy them. I can do pretty much everything I need to do with baitcasters. I use light line and light baitcasting rods for finesse stuff all the time. I also live in TX and don't fish deep, clear water with finesse techniques like many of you do up north. If I did I would probably use spinning gear more often. I don't call them "fairy wands" or "sissy sticks" and don't look down on people who primarily use them, they just don't suit me well.
bowhunter63 reply :
Spinning is my go to for River Smallies. Been using one a long time.Hair jigs and them go hand in hand.
Yumeya reply :
I love my spinning rods as much as I love my baitcasters.
I do tend to use my spinning rods more for fishing rivers and trout, unless I'm using a small jerkbait, ned rig and drop shot.
My first rod was a ugly stick with a Mitchell 300 when I was like 10 years old...
The Bassman reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:44 AM, Glaucus said:Yeah but I'm confident in saying that there is no better sound in fishing than a fish peeling drag on a spinning reel. So satisfying.
I get a kick out of reading JDM Shimano's description of their clicking BC drags as "exciting drag sound".
fin reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 1:08 PM, Jrob78 said:I don't call them "fairy wands" or "sissy sticks"
Wow. Are there really people that call them that in a non-joking way?
Baitcasters are the automatic transmissions of reels.
People ‘hate’ manual transmissions because most people are not accustomed to manual transmissions. It’s more awkward for them than using an automatic transmission. Changing gears manually is the technically superior method, yet automatic transmissions are more common.
Spinning reels can do anything a baitcaster can do. The opposite is not true.
Dwbassin reply :
Easy that the best noise in fishing is a blow up or drag peeling on a nice spinning reel. Spinning reels are fantastic as are baitcaster. The finesse game obviously suits spinning. You can do anything with either but I find it easier to dock fish like someone mentioned with spinning. Pitching little Ned rigs in lily pads is a dream. Dartheads, and dropshots. All I can throw but they are some of my favorite techniques. I can’t throw senkos on spinning gear anymore, well wacky rig I do but I don’t know it’s weird now with a Texas rig,have to on a bc. Baitcasting is just as fun to me as well. There are times pond hopping though were I will only pick up the spinning rod to be able to wedge myself in between trees were 99% walk by and just pitch so effortlessly with a spinning rod. Safe to say I love em
Oregon Native reply :
Gimmie both....they are both tools to be employed and enjoyed. Each having there specialty. Love light line and finesse fishing...love flipping. Some times these ol hands need a break and a light spinning rod makes the day go longer better.
Spankey reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:39 AM, nascar2428 said:Love spinning rods, wouldn't leave home without a couple of em. I catch a lot of fish the power fishers miss because they won't use a spinning setup.
I fish both. I have a place in how I fish with both.
I’m all ears to the baitcasters only as to what a perfect finesse, light setup is with a baitcaster. Serious open for suggestions. I have not found it yet. 1/8 oz. maybe getting down to 6# test. Let me know how you are successfully doing it so I can go buy that setup.
ChrisD46 reply :
A spinning rod is a tool just like a bait cast rod - use the tool the application calls for ... Nothing more - nothing less .
Tyler. reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 7:20 PM, Spankey said:I fish both. I have a place in how I fish with both.
I’m all ears to the baitcasters only as to what a perfect finesse, light setup is with a baitcaster. Serious open for suggestions. I have not found it yet. 1/8 oz. maybe getting down to 6# test. Let me know how you are successfully doing it so I can go buy that setup.
I been looking at getting a baitcaster and the Johnny Morris Carbonlite 2.0 medium light is rated 1/16-1/2 oz. $209. May check that out. They get really good reviews.
NYWayfarer reply :
No hate here. I love my spinning setups for finesse fishing.
I always looked at baitcasters as the top of the ladder in fishing. We usually start the climb with a spincast reel. We then take a step up to the spinning reel. Some folks are content to stay on that rung and never climb higher. Some take the next step up to the baitcaster.
Once you are on the top it seems like a step down to use anything else. How many people who started with spincasters go back to them after learning how to use a spinning reel?
bagofdonuts reply :
No hate here either. Always have one in the boat for my wife.????
fishwizzard reply :
My love of spinning rods is limited to short, like <6’6”, ones with very short butts. I hate trying to cast a spinning rod with both hands, I find it really clumsy and uncomfortable. I bought a high-end 6’11” spinning rod over the winter and after maybe 10 hours with it I think I am about ready to sell it.
In general I strongly prefer casting rods now. I find them more comfortable to cast and work a lure with and far more accurate. Using my thumb to release the spool and to slow/stop the lure allows far more precision then using my pointer finger to release the line and to feather the spool on a spinning reel.
Subaqua Adinterim reply :
Almost 100% spinning for me.
I have a casting outfit that I still play/practice with in the back yard and have tried in my kayak a few times, it isn't comfortable for me to use on the water; that's just me.
Fishing from a kayak, sitting at the water line, spinning is much easier for me. Never felt limited using only spinning, and have landed small panfish up to 30# salmon; fishing from shore or from a kayak.
Use whatever you like and what works best for you. God bless America.
Todd2 reply :
I'm in the 50/50 camp, both are just tools. Neds, for example, on spinning gear. Pitching a 1/2 oz jig back into a log jam would call for my casting gear.
BassWhole! reply :
To me rods and reels are tools, just like I don't love a screwdriver more than a hammer, I don't favor spinning over BC or vise versa. At times one is the better tool, and others it isn't. A lot of LMB guys suffer from "how it should be done" to their detriment.
LonnieP reply :
I don't hate spinning gear, I just dislike it. I don't throw anything light enough to need spinning gear. I'm a lot more accurate with a bc plus it's a pain having to flip the bail and spinning reels take up too much room on the boat deck.
fishwizzard reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 9:43 PM, BassWhole! said:To me rods and reels are tools, just like I don't love a screwdriver more than a hammer
Oh man, I would use a ratcheting box-wrench over a ratchet and socket any time I could get away with it.
Jrob78 reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 6:20 PM, fin said:Wow. Are there really people that call them that in a non-joking way?
Baitcasters are the automatic transmissions of reels.
People ‘hate’ manual transmissions because most people are not accustomed to manual transmissions. It’s more awkward for them than using an automatic transmission. Changing gears manually is the technically superior method, yet automatic transmissions are more common.
Spinning reels can do anything a baitcaster can do. The opposite is not true.
I don't know if people are serious when they say those things or not. I know it is something said with a macho attitude though, which is silly.
I'm not sure about your transmission analogy, if anything it is backwards. Baitcasters seem to be the one people struggle with in the beginning and have a hard time getting used to. To say that one is superior to the other is not true either. They both excel at different things and both have their place in bass fishing and you're probably limiting yourself if you don't own and use both.
I can get away with not using much spinning gear because of how I fish and because I have ultralight baitcasting gear that can handle light line and light weight. I do still use spinning occasionally though.
dodgeguy reply :
All baitcast for me. I use 8 lb test on a medium action rod and cast 1/5 oz ned rig with it.
Hulkster reply :
QuoteSpinning reels can do anything a baitcaster can do.
not necessarily.
grab a big lipped crankbait or a big inline spinner and try to bring that back through the water with a spinning reel. its almost impossible.
just ask the muskie fishermen lol
As for me, i use both. Baitcaster for big stuff, spinning reel for the small stuff.
fin reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 10:21 PM, Jrob78 said:Baitcasters seem to be the one people struggle with in the beginning and have a hard time getting used to. To say that one is superior to the other is not true either. They both excel at different things and both have their place in bass fishing and you're probably limiting yourself if you don't own and use both.
I started with spincasters, then baitcasters, then spinning reels.
I had become used to using small, light lures with the spincasters and I could never get the results I wanted with those type baits with a baitcaster, even using 10# braid. Then I got into spinning reels and that has become my go-to.
I still have several baitcasters and I still use them occasionally, but I'm primarily a walking-the-banks fisherman, so I don't often carry multiple rods - I'm forced to choose one or the other, and baitcasters are simply not good with light baits or coping with the wind, both very important factors to me. I love using baitcasters, but I honestly can't see what function I might be missing when I leave them at home. How am I limiting myself? What can I not do with my spinning reel that my baitcaster can do?
On 4/10/2019 at 10:57 PM, Hulkster said:not necessarily.
grab a big lipped crankbait or a big inline spinner and try to bring that back through the water with a spinning reel. its almost impossible.
just ask the muskie fishermen lol
As for me, i use both. Baitcaster for big stuff, spinning reel for the small stuff.
No muskie here, so I don't know about that.
I don't know why you find it almost impossible to pull a big crank or spinner with a spinning reel. A baitcaster is more comfortable in the hands, the balance is better, it's more stout, but it doesn't make anything more possible.
fin reply :
One thing a baitcaster can do that a spinning reel can’t is backlash. With a bad enough backlash, you can be out of the game. It’s not that hard to do - catch your rod on a tree or whatever. You can get a wind knot with a spinning reel, but it’s more rare, and if you have to cut it out you won’t lose much line or time. I’ve had some backlashes where it takes a long time just to cut it out, forget about trying to untangle it. And after cutting ended up with a short spool that won’t cast as far. That's a pretty major disadvantage.
MN Fisher reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 12:03 AM, fin said:One thing a baitcaster can do that a spinning reel can’t is backlash. With a bad enough backlash, you can be out of the game. It’s not that hard to do - catch your rod on a tree or whatever. You can get a wind knot with a spinning reel, but it’s more rare, and if you have to cut it out you won’t lose much line or time. I’ve had some backlashes where it takes a long time just to cut it out, forget about trying to untangle it. And after cutting ended up with a short spool that won’t cast as far. That's a pretty major disadvantage.
On the converse side of that - just in the interest of fairness - too stiff of a line on a spinner and you have loops dropping off. A baitcaster can handle that stiffer line better.
fishwizzard reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 12:03 AM, fin said:That's a pretty major disadvantage.
It’s only a disadvantage while you are learnings, I think I maybe get one show-stopping backlash a year, not counting UL casting, which is far fussier. I will take the risk of backlashing over dealing with line twist and loops from spool memory.
Tyler. reply :
One thing I have noticed is that a spinning rod can handle those leader knots a lot easier. I have been using the FG Knot and can always feel them going through the tip guide of the baitcaster rod. I have also broken more line on my cast with the casting rod vs spinning. That is using both braided line with leader.
Since being introduced to braided line it is so much easier to cast them lighter lures and more sensitive. I love it.
On 4/11/2019 at 12:13 AM, fishwizzard said:It’s only a disadvantage while you are learnings, I think I maybe get one show-stopping backlash a year, not counting UL casting, which is far fussier. I will take the risk of backlashing over dealing with line twist and loops from spool memory.
You try braided line in the spinning reel? When i get the line twist over time I just walk it out with no lure and then reel it back in with some pressure. Tends to help. I also use some line conditioner prior.
Jrob78 reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 11:38 PM, fin said:I started with spincasters, then baitcasters, then spinning reels.
I had become used to using small, light lures with the spincasters and I could never get the results I wanted with those type baits with a baitcaster, even using 10# braid. Then I got into spinning reels and that has become my go-to.
I still have several baitcasters and I still use them occasionally, but I'm primarily a walking-the-banks fisherman, so I don't often carry multiple rods - I'm forced to choose one or the other, and baitcasters are simply not good with light baits or coping with the wind, both very important factors to me. I love using baitcasters, but I honestly can't see what function I might be missing when I leave them at home. How am I limiting myself? What can I not do with my spinning reel that my baitcaster can do?
No muskie here, so I don't know about that.
I don't know why you find it almost impossible to pull a big crank or spinner with a spinning reel. A baitcaster is more comfortable in the hands, the balance is better, it's more stout, but it doesn't make anything more possible.
I'm not going to try to talk you out of what works best for you. If you can throw big crankbaits, spinnerbaits, punch, flip, pitch, work large topwaters, jigs etc with spinning gear and have the appropriate rods to do it, more power to you and I don't mean that sarcastically. I just don't think most people would agree with you but that's the great thing about fishing, there are no rules and people can do it the way they want.
813basstard reply :
Growing up, only rich kids or adults had casting gear. Plus being surrounded on 3 sides by saltwater, that’s what we used.
As long as my boat is 15-20 pounds heavier between take off and weigh in, I’m good.
Brad Reid reply :
Good personal observations/preferences.
I'd only add that if you are fishing out of a kayak, I believe this to be the fastest growing segment of fishing, you'll likely lean a bit toward spinning gear as we tend to fish shallower, tend to use more finesse presentations. There are exceptions, of course.
Some guy standing high on the deck of a bass boat making casts with power presentations in mind? Just a guess that casting gear can make 100 casts for every 75 or so with spinning gear. Other factors, for sure, play roles, but that'd be the big difference for a competitive angler. Covering more water where speed is a big factor.
Brad
MN Fisher reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 1:04 AM, Brad Reid said:Just a guess that casting gear can make 100 casts for every 75 or so with spinning gear. Other factors, for sure, play roles, but that'd be the big difference for a competitive angler. Covering more water where speed is a big factor.
Is that because of the faster retrieve rates of high-speed BCs or something else.
My Fuego CT-XS 8.1:1 retrieves at 33.9 IPT
A Mitchell Mag-Pro 4000 spinner retrieves at 33 IPT.
I don't see much of a difference...I think with a good high-speed spinner you could cover the same amount of ground so the 75/100 ratio goes out the window.
Brad Reid reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 1:10 AM, MN Fisher said:Is that because of the faster retrieve rates of high-speed BCs or something else.
My Fuego CT-XS 8.1:1 retrieves at 33.9 IPT
A Mitchell Mag-Pro 4000 spinner retrieves at 33 IPT.
I don't see much of a difference...I think with a good high-speed spinner you could cover the same amount of ground so the 75/100 ratio goes out the window.
Some of that, for sure, with some of the retrieval rates of the high ratio casting reels and less so with spinning reels.
But, no, what I mean is I think if you watch a power angler, say KVD, that he can make more casts per unit of time than someone with a spinning reel using it for power presentations. It just appears more seamless to me, casting over spinning prep for a subsequent cast.
Heck, there might be someone out there just as fast with spinning gear, but we tend to seem a bit slower.
Brad
A-Jay reply :
Say what you want about spinning gear ~
Love it or hate it.
But the majority of the field fishing the MLF event today is paying the mortgage and putting their kids through college with it.
A-Jay
fin reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 12:08 AM, MN Fisher said:On the converse side of that - just in the interest of fairness - too stiff of a line on a spinner and you have loops dropping off. A baitcaster can handle that stiffer line better.
True, I don't have much experience with that, thankfully. 99% of my experience is with braid on spinners. If not for braid, I'd probably favor baitcasters.
On 4/11/2019 at 12:13 AM, fishwizzard said:It’s only a disadvantage while you are learnings, I think I maybe get one show-stopping backlash a year, not counting UL casting, which is far fussier.
Learning is the worst, that's true, but it can still happen to the best of us at anytime. You get in a hurry, you have the sun in your eyes, you get tired, you're not paying attention, etc.
Darren. reply :
Love me some spinning gear. Like BC for some, but I paired down
casting in favor of spinning a while ago.
fin reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 12:13 AM, Tyler. said:One thing I have noticed is that a spinning rod can handle those leader knots a lot easier. I have been using the FG Knot and can always feel them going through the tip guide of the baitcaster rod. I have also broken more line on my cast with the casting rod vs spinning. That is using both braided line with leader.
I've never tried the FG knot. I use the Alberto, and once learned, the only time I've had the kind of problem you mentioned is when I've cut the tag ends too short. I leave about 1/16-1/8" now. You might want to give the Alberto a try - it's a smaller knot so I assume it would go through the guides easier. The FG is supposedly a stronger knot, but I've never had an Alberto break out of hundreds of knots.
But whatever you do, you shouldn't accept breaking line when casting. You might want to start a new post about that.
Tyler. reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 7:13 AM, fin said:I've never tried the FG knot. I use the Alberto, and once learned, the only time I've had the kind of problem you mentioned is when I've cut the tag ends too short. I leave about 1/16-1/8" now. You might want to give the Alberto a try - it's a smaller knot so I assume it would go through the guides easier. The FG is supposedly a stronger knot, but I've never had an Alberto break out of hundreds of knots.
But whatever you do, you shouldn't accept breaking line when casting. You might want to start a new post about that.
I like the Alberto knot. Good one. But with 15lb fluorocarbon I felt it got a little to big for my small guides. Plus I found an easy way to tie this FG knot from a YouTube video. Feel more comfortable with it now.
keagbassr reply :
I was once all spinning but have steadily made the transformation to mostly casting. I still have two spinning rods but only use them to throw small topwaters for river smallies in Maine.
blckshirt98 reply :
If I only want to bring one rod with me to the water, it's going to be a spinning reel.
I think because a baitcaster can backlash if the user isn't skilled there's the notion that it's a more difficult tool to learn and master, something a novice just can't pick up and use, and therefore a tool that implies you're a more skilled angler. Plus you have the people who brag about not needed any/minimal brake setting on their baitcasters ("You set it all the way? I set mine to zero ." *flex*)
I can't pitch my spinning setup too accurately but in terms of casting it out and trying to hit a spot, I can usually get my spinning gear pretty darn close to what I'm aiming for.
Tyler. reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 8:33 AM, blckshirt98 said:If I only want to bring one rod with me to the water, it's going to be a spinning reel.
I think because a baitcaster can backlash if the user isn't skilled there's the notion that it's a more difficult tool to learn and master, something a novice just can't pick up and use, and therefore a tool that implies you're a more skilled angler. Plus you have the people who brag about not needed any/minimal brake setting on their baitcasters ("You set it all the way? I set mine to zero ." *flex*)
I can't pitch my spinning setup too accurately but in terms of casting it out and trying to hit a spot, I can usually get my spinning gear pretty darn close to what I'm aiming for.
This is a prime example of why you should use what you are good with.
I can cast and flip with a spinning reel way more easier than with a bait caster. I can flip easily with my spinning reel and get it close to the target.
Just use what you like and are good with. Incorporate the others and over time you have a full arsenal.
Boomstick reply :
I don't personally hate or dislike spinning gear. In fact, if I am fishing for trout, catfish or using live bait, it's pretty much all that I use for those presentations. But when it comes to bass fishing I just prefer using the baitcaster for the most part simply because I prefer to fish moving baits or topwater as long as the conditions allow I can catch them on those presentations and cast much quicker on a casting rod than a spinning rod. At the end of the day, it's just a more fun presentation.
That said, my choice way to fish soft plastics in open water is either a ned rig or a dropshot.
On 4/10/2019 at 9:44 AM, Tyler. said:What’s the opinion on using spinning rod for cranks, swim baits, and spinner baits? If you like them what gear ration you use? Got a lews xfinity combo from Walmart and it’s 6:2.1. Curious if that ration would be sufficient for those baits.
I have used a spinning rod for cranks and jerkbaits (especially in the colder weather) on a 5.8:1 reel. The thing to keep in mind with spinning gear is a 5:1 gear ratio usually takes in much more line than a 9:1 gear ratio baitcaster unless it's a small trout or finesse sized reel. Once you get to the 2500 or larger sizes, the spinning reels really take up line quickly. So that said, tha Lews Xfinity combo is about the right size reel, but you're going to have to remember to reel it very slowly!
As far as spinnerbaits, swim jigs, chatterbaits, t-rigs, etc. I always use baitcasters for such presentations, but my girlfriend is baitcaster challenged and I'll probably find a MH/F or MH/MF spinning setup that she can use for these presentations.
Tyler. reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 9:12 AM, Boomstick said:I don't personally hate or dislike spinning gear. In fact, if I am fishing for trout, catfish or using live bait, it's pretty much all that I use for those presentations. But when it comes to bass fishing I just prefer using the baitcaster for the most part simply because I prefer to fish moving baits or topwater as long as the conditions allow I can catch them on those presentations and cast much quicker on a casting rod than a spinning rod. At the end of the day, it's just a more fun presentation.
That said, my choice way to fish soft plastics in open water is either a ned rig or a dropshot.
I have used a spinning rod for cranks and jerkbaits (especially in the colder weather) on a 5.8:1 reel. The thing to keep in mind with spinning gear is a 5:1 gear ratio usually takes in much more line than a 9:1 gear ratio baitcaster unless it's a small trout or finesse sized reel. Once you get to the 2500 or larger sizes, the spinning reels really take up line quickly. So that said, tha Lews Xfinity combo is about the right size reel, but you're going to have to remember to reel it very slowly!
As far as spinnerbaits, swim jigs, chatterbaits, t-rigs, etc. I always use baitcasters for such presentations, but my girlfriend is baitcaster challenged and I'll probably find a MH/F or MH/MF spinning setup that she can use for these presentations.
So I just checked my lure. Laid out tape measure and Reeled the lure in. 1 complete rotation was around 33”. I did it a couple times and the eye landed there. That’s on the Lew’s Xfinity 6:2.1.
I may may try and get the Pflueger Presidential in 30 size which is 5:2.1 and inches retrieved is 25”.
Match with Diawa medium fast 6’6” rod. 1/4-3/4oz life rating
Boomstick reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 9:44 AM, Tyler. said:
So I just checked my lure. Laid out tape measure and lured the real in. 1 complete rotation was around 33”. I did it a couple times and the eye landed there. That’s on the Lew’s Xfinity 6:2.1.
I may may try and get the Pflueger Presidential in 30 size which is 5:2.1 and inches retrieved is 25”.
Match with Diawa medium fast 6’6” rod. 1/4-3/4oz life rating
I would have guessed 6.2:1 on a 30 sized reel would have been closer to 38" per turn, but still 33" is around a 8:1 gear ratio for most casting reels, pretty quick! I have a Pflueger President in 35 size and it's aboutas fast as my Daiwa BG 2000 and not as fast as my Mitchell 300 Pro. The BG's spool is at least as wide despite being a smaller sized reel, which is better for hooksets and not losing line but also means it picks up line faster.
zell_pop1 reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:33 AM, NHBull said:Thumb vs Finger and a little arthritis......make the BC easier.
But skipping is easier for me with spinning gear
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Glaucus reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 10:21 PM, Jrob78 said:I don't know if people are serious when they say those things or not. I know it is something said with a macho attitude though, which is silly.
I'm not sure about your transmission analogy, if anything it is backwards. Baitcasters seem to be the one people struggle with in the beginning and have a hard time getting used to. To say that one is superior to the other is not true either. They both excel at different things and both have their place in bass fishing and you're probably limiting yourself if you don't own and use both.
I can get away with not using much spinning gear because of how I fish and because I have ultralight baitcasting gear that can handle light line and light weight. I do still use spinning occasionally though.
A southern YouTuber kept calling them fairy wands and I commented that he can bring that mouth up north and fish against a northerner using a "fairy wand". All in good fun. He said we probably would stomp him.
Jweller reply :
I love spinning outfits; it's what my dad taught me how to fish on and I am more accurate with them and feel more "in touch" with one in my hands compared to a BC.
I tried buying a MH St.Croix Mojo rod to throw lipless cranks and Rapala DT 6-10's on, and throwing a lipless was so miserable I never tried the Rapalas. It just felt awkward and too heavy; even though it was well within the weight of the rod.
The Maestro reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:24 AM, MIbassyaker said:
The accuracy claim is the one I don't understand. There is no good reason for a spinning rod to be inherently less accurate than a baitcaster. I rather suspect this claim is based on simply having less experience (i.e., less practice) casting to targets with spinning rods than with baitcasters.
I didn't read all the replies so this might have already been mentioned. One of the biggest advantages of a baitcaster is your ability to thumb the spool allowing for a much greater degree of control during a cast. I don't doubt that some guys have become very accurate with spinning gear but a baitcaster just makes it much easier especially when trying to make a soft entry where you need the bait to slow down right at the end of your cast/pitch.
NathanDLTH reply :
My 7’3 Cronos mediums is great, paired with a Tatula LT 2500 6:2:1 gear ratio. Great for tubes, small swimbaits, and other finesse baits.
The Bassman reply :
On 4/13/2019 at 4:53 AM, The Maestro said:I didn't read all the replies so this might have already been mentioned. One of the biggest advantages of a baitcaster is your ability to thumb the spool allowing for a much greater degree of control during a cast. I don't doubt that some guys have become very accurate with spinning gear but a baitcaster just makes it much easier especially when trying to make a soft entry where you need the bait to slow down right at the end of your cast/pitch.
Feathering the spool lip with your index finger accomplishes the same thing.
ItsHardwick reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 8:44 AM, Glaucus said:Yeah but I'm confident in saying that there is no better sound in fishing than a fish peeling drag on a spinning reel. So satisfying.
Lovvvvvveeeeeee that sound!
Bankbeater reply :
I have four spinning rods. I use them for light crankbaits, light or weightless plastics, and for panfish.
Vilas15 reply :
On 4/10/2019 at 9:47 PM, LonnieP said:I don't hate spinning gear, I just dislike it. I don't throw anything light enough to need spinning gear. I'm a lot more accurate with a bc plus it's a pain having to flip the bail and spinning reels take up too much room on the boat deck.
Only thing i dont like about them is that spinning reels are a pain in the rod box.
sdbc reply :
I use primarily spinning gear for all the reasons already stated. That said, I just can't seem to get any cadence going with spinning gear for jerk baits or walking the dog topwaters. Too much weight hanging underneath and swinging every time I move the bait. I only use baitcasters for those techniques any more.
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