Right now I'm looking at the Abu Garcia Revo LTX leftie, on a side note the real MUST come in left handed retrieve, I can't fish righty. I'm looking to spend under 500 dollars, and this is going to be paired on an G. Loomis NRX 853C JWR. I have a lot of lighter shad raps, suspended raps, and deeper raps I plan on throwing, mixed with the occasional worm etc. What do you guys advise? What do you use?
PX-R...That's the king. Others would be the Alphas SV105 and the Aldebaran/Metanium.
Shimano Aldebaran BFS XG Limited is ready to go straight out of the box. It's about $300. What are the weights of what you plan to throw? Light lure can mean different things to different people. My opinion on BFS is anything about 1/16-3/16 ounce in total weight. The rod you mentioned isn't going to work for those weights. The Pxr/Px68 is a great choice but they're aren't being made any longer so finding a new one is almost impossible. If you don't mind used then it's one to consider too.
I bought a PIXY 68 SPR for short money on that auction site from a sporting goods store. I love mine. I just found a number of left handed ones out there, some for very reasonable prices.
Best of luck.
Revo Premier, MGX
Daiwa sv105 does a nice job. Under $300 at TW.
For more detail im looking for good casting distance on 20 or 30lb power pro, with between 1/16th and 1/8 weight counting hook and rig, not counting line weight. Thanks for all of your ideas thus far. Keep em coming.
Well it's a 3 power rod and that may effect your casting distancebut when it comes to light baits, the obvious choices are PXL-R and Aldebaran/Core 51 IMO.
No no clue why you're throwing 1/16th baits on a 3 power though. That's going to be less than ideal, that's for sure. I have an 852 JWR and find the tip a but stiff for those light baits. Get a ML if you're talking between 1/16-1/8oz in all honesty.
On 12/28/2015 at 9:01 PM, Master Bait'r said:No no clue why you're throwing 1/16th baits on a 3 power though. That's going to be less than ideal, that's for sure. I have an 852 JWR and find the tip a but stiff for those light baits. Get a ML if you're talking between 1/16-1/8oz in all honesty.
Thank you Sir. I thought I was the only one who saw that. If the 853 is anything like my 893, he might have a hard time throwing even sub quarter oz baits.
On 12/28/2015 at 9:15 PM, deep said:
Thank you Sir. I thought I was the only one who saw that. If the 853 is anything like my 893, he might have a hard time throwing even sub quarter oz baits.
Yeah there's just no way anyone is casting 1/8-1/16 baits on a MH NRX on 20-30# braid. It's just not physically possible. As I said before even my 852 isn't ideal for those weights.
The Rod plays a much bigger role in casting than the reel does. Get a Rod that will load and cast properly and match it with any shallow spool reel that is set up properly and you should be fine.
On 12/28/2015 at 1:49 PM, Fishinthefish said:For more detail im looking for good casting distance on 20 or 30lb power pro, with between 1/16th and 1/8 weight counting hook and rig, not counting line weight. Thanks for all of your ideas thus far. Keep em coming.
You need to be looking at an ultra light or light powered rod for those weights and #10 power pro is a better choice.
You don´t need a finesse baitcaster for those baits. It´s not the reel what you have to take into consideration, it´s the line. I can cast without any effort a Shad Rap size 5 with a heavy rod ( CR724-MBR784 ) on a Curado 200B ( which has a deep and heavy spool ) with 10-12 lb test Big Game.
Now, if what you want is to purchase another reel ( without the lame excuse of "needing" a finesse bait caster ) then I would suggest purchasing a Daiwa SS Sv or a Daiwa Alphas SV.
If you have your eye on the LTX spend a little more and get the LTZ which is a slightly tuned version(ZPI bearings and knobs). It will handle those weights with ease and it comes with a deeper spare spool that's nearly as light as the shallow spool.
Thats because i quoted the wrong rod. Im buying 3 atm. I am getting a ML casting rod. Sorry for the confusion ill edit my post with the right model number when i get home
This is what I am saving up for, and it would fit exactly what you are wanting to do.
http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/daiwa/low-profile-casting-reels/daiwa-ss-air.html
On 12/29/2015 at 4:14 AM, Fishinthefish said:Thats because i quoted the wrong rod. Im buying 3 atm. I am getting a ML casting rod. Sorry for the confusion ill edit my post with the right model number when i get home
No problem man, it doesn´t really matter, as I said, I can cast a Shad Rap size 5 or a Rapala original minnow size 7 or 9 with a Heavy power rod, we understand: The BaitMonkey bit you, now it itches, you gotta scratch it, it´s all good.
On 12/29/2015 at 4:14 AM, Fishinthefish said:Thats because i quoted the wrong rod. Im buying 3 atm. I am getting a ML casting rod. Sorry for the confusion ill edit my post with the right model number when i get home
What kind of rod are you getting? I have been doing my fishing lately with L power rods and 7# Sniper FC and having loads of fun doing it.
Dobyns championship extreme 7' ML split grip
On 12/29/2015 at 6:14 AM, Fishinthefish said:Dobyns championship extreme 7' ML split grip
That is a nice rod. Have fun!
On 12/29/2015 at 1:03 AM, Raul said:You don´t need a finesse baitcaster for those baits. It´s not the reel what you have to take into consideration, it´s the line. I can cast without any effort a Shad Rap size 5 with a heavy rod ( CR724-MBR784 ) on a Curado 200B ( which has a deep and heavy spool ) with 10-12 lb test Big Game.
Now, if what you want is to purchase another reel ( without the lame excuse of "needing" a finesse bait caster ) then I would suggest purchasing a Daiwa SS Sv or a Daiwa Alphas SV.
Question. Wouldn't a HF rod be a little too much for a #5 Shad Rap? I thought lures this small required rods with a little less power and a little slower action to keep the hooks from tearing out If not, then I am going to start using a 6'10" HF rod for a wider range of lures than what I have been using it for. I've always read that crankbaits deserve a dedicated rod with a Moderate or Med-Fast action although I must admit to using a MF or ML-F most of the time as I personally feel if a rod will load with a lure less than 1/4 oz. then its tip should be flexible enough not to rip treble hooks out of a fish. Especially if the drag is set right.
I asked this very question last night to a guy who has extensive experience with BFS. He recommended...
Dobyn's DX701C
Daiwa Pixy SPR w/ 4 lb line
I have a diawa pixy, unfortunately with those reels one decent back lash and you cant use the reel until you respool which I hate doing on the water. So that reel is sitting collecting dust. I also fish all of my lighter lures on 10lb braid
On 12/29/2015 at 9:23 AM, Fishinthefish said:I have a diawa pixy, unfortunately with those reels one decent back lash and you cant use the reel until you respool which I hate doing on the water. So that reel is sitting collecting dust. I also fish all of my lighter lures on 10lb braid
I'll take the Pixy off your hands. What to sell? I've heard good things about the SS Air thus far.
If it were me personally I'd role with this...http://japantackle.com/casting-reels/shimano/shimano-aldebaran-bfs2015ltd.html
on the Dobyns 701
On 12/29/2015 at 8:09 AM, new2BC4bass said:
Question. Wouldn't a HF rod be a little too much for a #5 Shad Rap? I thought lures this small required rods with a little less power and a little slower action to keep the hooks from tearing out If not, then I am going to start using a 6'10" HF rod for a wider range of lures than what I have been using it for. I've always read that crankbaits deserve a dedicated rod with a Moderate or Med-Fast action although I must admit to using a MF or ML-F most of the time as I personally feel if a rod will load with a lure less than 1/4 oz. then its tip should be flexible enough not to rip treble hooks out of a fish. Especially if the drag is set right.
Nope, it's not too much. Only once in my lifetime I have owned a bait specific rod, Kistler Mag TS 6'6" MM Crankbait rod, had it for 6 months and then sold it, the reason: if it ain't broke don't fix it; you see ? I have fished with "general purpose" graphite Fast action rods for decades in which the only thing I change depending is the power, in this case, I set the drag very light since the rod is too stiff.
I have an LTX and have it mounted on a LTB MLXF rod. And I can throw 1/8 just as far as 3/8 on my other rigs. In fact I used it last year on a trout fishing trip. The shallow spool on the LTX does make a difference over my other reels that I have tried on this rod. It casts about the same as my ML spinning rod. I have found that it is best to set the mag brake high and back off as needed. I use it for small spinners plugs and weightless worms craws Exc. The only drawback is that I have a tendency to try and horse a fish in and on six pound test not the best idea. I also have a gtx 853 and I would not put this reel on that rod. I have a lews teamlite on that one. I have been fishing left hand baitcasters since the shimano bantum mag 251,s came out in about 84.
For the Shimano JDM Aldebaran BFS XG Limited Japan model, and Daiwa SS AIR Japan version, does anyone know approx. how much line they'd hold of 10lb braid?
On 12/29/2015 at 10:32 AM, Fishinthefish said:For the Shimano JDM Aldebaran BFS XG Limited Japan model, and Daiwa SS AIR Japan version, does anyone know approx. how much line they'd hold of 10lb braid?
It is not recommended to use braid on the spool for the SS AIR.
There will be an Alphas Air coming out sometime 2016, I imagine it will be cheaper than the other Air spool Daiwas. Not sure exactly when it will be released though.