Had A Bad Day With Flouro 2025
Preytorien reply :
Spraying the line last night with KVD didn't seem to alleviate the issue. Maybe I'm just not sure what to expect. I came from 50lb Power Pro to Seaguar Red Label flouro. Is it just a line with inherently and significantly more memory?
I almost never have backlash on braid, yet I like the properties of flouro. However, I had several backlashes and had to constantly keep adjusting brakes to keep it from happening.
Overall it wasn't a good experience, I just wonder if I'm doing anything wrong?
Using....
Curado G 7.1 Left-hand reel
Crucial MH/XFast Rod
20lb Seaguar Red Label (not convinced enough with flouro to throw down $$ on Tatsu....yet....)
Threw jigs, T-Rigs, and Spinnerbaits 3/8 - 1/2 oz
gulfcaptain reply :
Did you use a topshot or fill the reel full of flouro?
Knightiac reply :
Flouro is just a different monster. On the spool, it reacts like a thicker stiffer mono would. It took me some time to get used to it but I love it now. Just tighten the brakes down and have at it. I am to the point where I hardly use brakes and rely on my thumb.
jbsoonerfan reply :
20 lb Fluoro is tough to handle. Why the need for line that big? To me, 15 lb Fluoro is almost to big. I prefer 15 lb Seaguar Red label but I only use it for leaders. When I used Fluoro to cast with, I used 10-12 lb.
CJV reply :
I would start buying a more quality Fluro and you will probably see 75% of your issues go away. I was in the same boat as you were until a friend turned me onto to Sunline. Great all around like and if your going to stick with seagur atleast get invisx.
Diggy reply :
Hated red label on the spool, but great as leader. Bps and invisx has been good so far
Hogsticker reply :
Red label isn't terrible line by any means. You're just using much to heavy test IMO. Try 12 lb. Invisx and your headache will go away.
Preytorien reply :
I may try just a lighter line. I got the 20lb because I liked how the braid laid on the spool and didn't dig in so much. I thought maybe staying within the same diameter would help the same for flouro. Like Knightiac said, it's like a stiff mono. When it worked I liked fishing it, and even caught a couple good ones with it. The sensitivity was very nice, so I would like to try using it a while.
Does flouro "break in" or is it just always that stiff?
Jar11591 reply :
I use 10lb Red Label as a leader on most set-ups.
But I won't spool up a reel with fluorocarbon because I don't like the memory and casting issues it has. So I use a 6' fluoro leader. Before I tie it on, I run my fingers down the fluoro and pull a little to straighten it out. Do NOT stretch it because unlike monofilament, fluoro has no elasticity so it won't un-stretch itself, it will just be damaged and weakened.
ww2farmer reply :
I love Red Label..... As a leader. On a whim I put some on as main line and was quickly reminded why I only use braid as main line. I am sure that there are better main line fluorocarbon lines out there, but I am not going to find out.
Preytorien reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 8:09 PM, ww2farmer said:I love Red Label..... As a leader. On a whim I put some on as main line and was quickly reminded why I only use braid as main line. I am sure that there are better main line fluorocarbon lines out there, but I am not going to find out.
That'll probably be the way I go. I got used to the manageability of braid, now I'm afraid I can't go back. But now I've got plenty for leader material 
Hogsticker reply :
20 lb braid and 20 lb fluoro are not even in the same ballpark as far as diameter is considered. If you want the same diameter you need to drop down to 8 lb fluoro
Tywithay reply :
Red label isn't the most manageable fluoro. You also need heavier braking than braid because fluoro is very dense, it weighs a pretty significant amount more; ie. It makes the spool spin too fast.
Preytorien reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 9:23 PM, Hogsticker said:20 lb braid and 20 lb fluoro are not even in the same ballpark as far as diameter is considered. If you want the same diameter you need to drop down to 8 lb fluoro
Agreed, but I usually use 50lb Power Pro (.14in), not 20lb. The Red Label is .16in for 20lb
I'm already considering another brand, in 12lb. Hopefully it's more manageable, this stuff is like trying to cast nylon guitar strings
roadwarrior reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 8:09 PM, ww2farmer said:I love Red Label..... As a leader.
Seaguar make other fluorocarbon lines that are MUCH more user friendly.
InvizX for spinning tackle, AbrazX for baitcasting. If you are looking for the,
ultimate fluoro, Tatsu is THE BOMB!
hockeybigd reply :
I do not want to hijack this post. If so please disregard. Several points have been brought up. Never used flouro, been using #12 copoly. I bought BPS flouro on sale this year. Is #17 BPS flouro to heavy for a baitcaster?
Siebert Outdoors reply :
I've never thrown Red Label but I do fish a lot of Inviz X. It is completely different the braid or mono. It takes some getting use too. Especially in high lb strengths.
Preytorien reply :
Yea, I used it for 2 trips, had so many problems it ended my experiment. I switched back to braid, but I did put a 4ft leader on to see how I like that.
I think my problem was twofold....
One, I was using Red Label. From what I hear it's a decent line, but not the softest, and soft = manageability
Secondly, I was using a higher test than I should. I intended on this being my line for jigs, so I figured 20lb test would be the way to go since I fish in nasty stuff sometimes. However, it's like fishing with guitar strings. It's got insane memory that just doesn't come out since it's so thick. Maybe one day I'll try a better quality flouro in 12lb test?
One last question.....I'm using 50lb Sufix 832, with this Red Label 20lb, their diameters are only .02in in difference. I used an Alberto knot. It seems very strong, but I have yet to stick a decent fish with it. All the dinks I've caught don't cause any problem. You think the Alberto is the way to go?
A-Jay reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 10:18 PM, hockeybigd said:I do not want to hijack this post. If so please disregard. Several points have been brought up. Never used flouro, been using #12 copoly. I bought BPS flouro on sale this year. Is #17 BPS flouro to heavy for a baitcaster?
No
A-Jay
livetofish28 reply :
Alberto is the way to go that's the only knot I and a lot of other people use. It's very popular. Just make sure you tie it right and it doesn't bunch up. I've retied it 3 times before I got it right on occasions. Braid in my opinion is the way to go leader as neededOn 4/16/2014 at 7:34 PM, Preytorien said:Yea, I used it for 2 trips, had so many problems it ended my experiment. I switched back to braid, but I did put a 4ft leader on to see how I like that.
I think my problem was twofold....
One, I was using Red Label. From what I hear it's a decent line, but not the softest, and soft = manageability
Secondly, I was using a higher test than I should. I intended on this being my line for jigs, so I figured 20lb test would be the way to go since I fish in nasty stuff sometimes. However, it's like fishing with guitar strings. It's got insane memory that just doesn't come out since it's so thick. Maybe one day I'll try a better quality flouro in 12lb test?
One last question.....I'm using 50lb Sufix 832, with this Red Label 20lb, their diameters are only .02in in difference. I used an Alberto knot. It seems very strong, but I have yet to stick a decent fish with it. All the dinks I've caught don't cause any problem. You think the Alberto is the way to go?
Tight lines
Andrew
ColdSVT reply :
I love flouro...however, i too started with Red Label and while it works fine it is rather stiff (especially in 20#) neen there lol.
I went to invisx and it is much better, i also got some tatsu and all i can say is Wow!.
It just takes a alittle time to get used to thats all. The invisx and tatsu are much more friendly
WIGuide reply :
Give Berkley 100% Flouro a try instead. I have a feeling your problems will go away.
Got1Fishing reply :
On 4/14/2014 at 10:16 PM, roadwarrior said:Seaguar make other fluorocarbon lines that are MUCH more user friendly.
InvizX for spinning tackle, AbrazX for baitcasting. If you are looking for the,
ultimate fluoro, Tatsu is THE BOMB!
X2
jonnyblazex reply :
I use 12lb Seaguar invizix on my curado, same reel as you have. It works EXCELLENT. I use it for all around underwater use, like jigs, tx rigs, jerkbaits, spinnerbaits, crankbaits, etc, a wonderful all around line. it will obviously have a lot of stretch compared to braid, but any fluoro would, but it is tough line, and casts excellent, and has great sensitivity. You get what you pay for with fluoro, the more expensive the better. I have tried a few different brands, and know from experience. Just go a little lighter, and Im sure red label is still a decent line to use, a lot of good talk about it from what I have heard.
tomustang reply :
Have no issues with red label or invisix in 20lb. Don't use conditioner either.
Primus reply :
On 4/16/2014 at 8:10 PM, A-Jay said:No
A-Jay
I agree with A Jay regarding 17 lb BPS Floro. I have been using this line for years on my jig rod and it has worked out well for me and is very reliable. I have several baitcasting combos with BPS.
I prefer TATSU for a couple of spinning rigs as this line fishes almost like Trilene XL in terms of manageability with all the benefits of Floro. The reason I don't use it on all my rigs is because it's pricey and the BPS works out fine for casting reels.
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