What is the best 6-8 lb test line for someone wants to minimize line twist on a spinning reel?
The line is spooled properly, I always close the bail by hand, and i never retrieve line when the drag is in use...but i get line twist so badly that sometimes after a few casts it starts wrapping itself around the rod tip. It's crazy bad. I can't complete a half day of throwing crank baits without having to cut a ton of line off. I have used line conditioner as well, and while that helps to a degree, it's not a fix. I'm wondering if maybe this particular reel just has a problem.
I haven't really explored the ultra high-end $$ mono lines and just mainly use Berkley Trilene XL (2-6lb test). It's a nice line, in my opinion.
When reeling in for your next cast, try putting the rod tip underwater for the last few turns of the reel. That will usually solve the tendency for thin mono to wrap around the rod tip, as it adds some tension.
What reel are you using?
Braid.
On 6/1/2015 at 2:25 AM, CeeJay said:I haven't really explored the ultra high-end $$ mono lines and just mainly use Berkley Trilene XL (2-6lb test). It's a nice line, in my opinion.
When reeling in for your next cast, try putting the rod tip underwater for the last few turns of the reel. That will usually solve the tendency for thin mono to wrap around the rod tip, as it adds some tension.
What reel are you using?
It's a Pflueger Trion GX-7. It seems to do it with every line I've tried.
My other spinning setup occasionally has problems...but nothing like the Trion.
On 6/1/2015 at 2:25 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Braid.
^ This
On 6/1/2015 at 2:25 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Braid.
Done. I'll pick some up this week.
The other day I got into a big school of bass that were willing to bite, but my line was so fouled up I had to cut it all off and re-spool on the spot. It was a long couple of minutes, knowing that the bite was on and I was out of the action.
thx
Check the line roller on the bail of that particular spinning reel. If it is not spinning as freely as it should that could be the cause of your line twist.
p.s. - Google "line roller on spinning reel" and you should see some articles on diagnosis and remedy.
The problem with any spinning reel is line twist if the lure tied on doesn't untwist the line. Here is what happens; the end line tied to a lure like a crankbait puts 1 twist into the line with every rotation of the spinning reel bail turn wrapping the line back onto a fixed spool. Doesn't matter what type of line you use or spinning type, they wrap line onto a fixed spool. Some lines have less memory, however they will have twists, including braid.
The solution is a bait casting reel -or- use a good quality small swivel attached to the split ring or clip. This adds a little extra weight, that should be a problem with most lures.
Tom
On 6/1/2015 at 3:18 AM, WRB said:The problem with any spinning reel is line twist if the lure tied on doesn't untwist the line. Here is what happens; the end line tied to a lure like a crsnkbait puts 1 twist into the line with every rotation of the spinning reel bail turn wrapping the line back onto a fixed spool. Doesn't matter what type of line you use. Some lines have less memory, however they will have twists.
The solution is a bait casting reel -or- use a good quality small swivel attached to the split ring or clip. This adds a little extra weight, that should be a problem with most lures.
Tom
I've tried swivels in the past with no luck.
In the past I've not been able to throw these smaller crank baits well with a bait caster...although that may be more of an issue with the size line I use on my bait casters. I tend to use 10 to 14 lb test on the bait casters. If I set one up with 6 lb test maybe I'd have more luck. I might have to test that out.
Also might want to check out this recent video and the replies:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/157673-new-video-how-to-fix-line-twist/
You need good quality ball bearing swivel like Spro. Keep in mind the line will not begin to turn the swivel until there is some twist to create enough torque to unwind.On 6/1/2015 at 3:21 AM, bassless said:I've tried swivels in the past with no luck.
In the past I've not been able to throw these smaller crank baits well with a bait caster...although that may be more of an issue with the size line I use on my bait casters. I tend to use 10 to 14 lb test on the bait casters. If I set one up with 6 lb test maybe I'd have more luck. I might have to test that out.
I use a product called TangleFree, works good for both FC and Mono to reduce line memory. The only way I know to untwist twisted line is using the boat method that Glenn posted.
Use 6-8 lb test mono, 50 series baitcasting reels handle small diameter line, you also need 2 power rod for small 1/4-3/8 oz crankbaits.
Give a small Spro size 10 power swivel a try and use TangleFree, should help!
Tom
On 6/1/2015 at 2:47 AM, everythingthatswims said:^ This
and when it starts to show signs of wear, spool it back onto another reel!
Monney saver
If the roller bearing on the bail of your reel isn't spinning freely, you'll end up with line twist after just a few casts. Check it by sliding your finger over it. If not, a simple removal, cleaning and lube of the bearing will Dix the problem. BTW, changing lines is not a solution.
On 6/1/2015 at 3:18 AM, WRB said:Some lines have less memory, however they will have twists, including braid.
Tom
A lot of people think braid doesn't get twist but it sure does, though the twist does not have nearly as noticeable consequences. I had a dedicated drop shot rod with a FC leader that by the end of the year the braid was so twisted that the first 20 ft of line looked like a twizzler! Obviously this still could have been minimized by proper management (making sure the soft plastic is threaded on perfectly straight, not reeling in super fast, etc.)
On 6/1/2015 at 3:18 AM, WRB said:The problem with any spinning reel is line twist if the lure tied on doesn't untwist the line. Here is what happens; the end line tied to a lure like a crankbait puts 1 twist into the line with every rotation of the spinning reel bail turn wrapping the line back onto a fixed spool. Doesn't matter what type of line you use or spinning type, they wrap line onto a fixed spool. Some lines have less memory, however they will have twists, including braid.
The solution is a bait casting reel -or- use a good quality small swivel attached to the split ring or clip. This adds a little extra weight, that should be a problem with most lures.
Tom
This is it. A bb swivel will help the leader from twisting up from a lure turning over but line is still being wrapped around a fixed spool. Even braid gets some line twist, the lack of memory makes it's less noticeable. On the fence when I see reels promoting less line twist thru some bail advancement, maybe so..........maybe not, lol.
Sounds like a bum reel to me... I'm not a spinning reel fan to begin with but my nephew is. He uses 20# ProLine braid with a flouro leader on a Fplueger patriarch reel. Never fails him.
Tell me again, I keep forgetting....What is "line-twist"?
In 2006, I switched from nylon monofilament to braided polyethylene,
and that sounded the death knell for "line-twist".
Roger
I have a Trion that does not twist a bit. But I've always used braid on it. Here's a little tip for the braid. 20# Fireline has the diameter of 8# mono. That helps a lot with casting light lures on spinning gear. I have 17# Fireline on my Trion right now, but I think they did a redesign of that line and now 20# has taken its place.
Nothing will fix line twist except getting a baitcaster, which is totally worth it.
The thing about braid and line twist is that it doesn't cause any issues for a while, then once it gets twisted enough and you let some slack in the line, it will twist up on itself like crazy and tie itself into knots. So, every once in a while you need to untwist it, even if it doesn't appear to be twisted.
I had a pinnacle spinning reel which, for whatever reason, twisted the devil out of line. I oiled and worked the bail bearing to be sure it was turning freely but to no avail. Even though it was in perfect shape otherwise, I give it to a friend (with the requisite warning) as it was cursed in my sight. Myadvice: either switch to braid or get rid of it. Eventually, if it hasn't already, it will destroy more line than what the reel is worth- not to mention the headaches it will cause.
I fish rocky streams for smallmouth with spinning gear. I've avoided braid because I've heard it's more likely to cut on the rocks. Let me know if your experience is different.
I typically use P-Line CXX 6# and the line twist can be pretty bad, but I put up with it because it's crazy strong, and the moss green is nearly invisible.
On my daughter's rod I use 8# Berkely Big Game in green. It does not twist as badly and it's plenty strong, although noticeably more visible.
Luckily, the fish don't seem to be as line sensitive as I am.
Line twist
1.spinning reels
We put line on a spinning reel from the end of the spool of line. It's the face of the reel to the end plate of the spool.
2. Bait casters
We have the spool of line parallel to the spool in the real.
I follow this rule and don't have line twist. I do close the bail on my spinning reels by hand. I use Excalibur silver thread line.
I don't use baitcaster reels when in the hunt for big bass there too noisy with that click when the handle locks into the spool.
On 6/3/2015 at 9:08 AM, bigbill said:Line twist
1.spinning reels
We put line on a spinning reel from the end of the spool of line. It's the face of the reel to the end plate of the spool.
Make sure you are pulling the line off the spool in the right direction. Go the wrong way and you are double twisting it.
Tie on a small quality snap swivel. Attach a 1/4 oz sinker. Throw it out there leaving the bail open. Troll around a bit and reel in. Line twist gone. Do this a couple times a day.
Best way to alleviate line twist is to stop using that stiff plastic stretchy stuff. #20 braid is your way out of the plastic nightmare.