Generic Reels On Amazon 2024

bradlyr1974 reply :

Hello all,have any of you ever fished with an Andoer or Anself reel? They appear to be made in China and available on Amazon. The price of these reels is very cheap and their specs are pretty impressive,which throws up some red flags. I love my Daiwa,Abu Garcia and Shimano reels but am not opposed to trying out other,less expensive reels also. Just want to see if I can get some input from actual users. Thank you for your time.

http://www.amazon.com/Andoer-Trulinoya-DW1000-11BB-6-3/dp/B00KBH38I8/ref=sr_1_1?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1423974836&sr=1-1&keywords=andoer+reels

The above is a listing for one of the reels

Blues19 reply :

Someone was on here a month or two ago raving about a cheaply priced reel from China. Said it was as nice if not better than quite a few nice reels. Dont remember who it was or what reels he was comparing it too. There was some intresting discussion between him and some of the others... I think a lot of people will agree that in most cases with fishing reels you get what you pay for.

bradlyr1974 reply :

I'm a firm believer in,most of the time,you get what you pay for. Like I said I love my other "big name" reels but you never know. There might just be that shot in the dark,quality cheap reel out there. LOL That's why I was hoping some others had tried them out. For the price,they might be ok for an extra rig.

Blues19 reply :

That is what I got my BPS Pro Qualifier for. It was only $50 during the BPS Spring Classic. I probably wont use it a whole lot, but its a reel I have confidence in if I need to put it into action

SirSnookalot reply :

I've got Chinese reels, they are called Abu and Pflueger and they work beautifully. Would I buy a no name reel, not sure I would but they may be made in the same factory and be no different. For a few bucks you don't have much to lose.

Do you get what pay for, that's it's own debate. I personally feel the law of diminishing return is ever present.

bradlyr1974 reply :

I may take a chance for $30. If I do,I'll let you guys know how it does.

roadwarrior reply :

We have had several guys promoting this junk and supposedly buying the reels.

Oddly, no one has come back with a review, especailly after using them for a year

or so. If $30 isn't important, it's no big deal, but for those just starting out or on a

buget, stay clear.

Theangler1 reply :

I have bought a reel in the same price range, same specs as that one: 6.3:1 and 11bb. The reel itself just didn't really fit in my hand. I wouldn't consider it a ver low profile reel. Although the bearings were great and the drag wasn't too bad. The reel doesn't seem to be made poorly either. I have since bought a Lews and am much happier with the low profile of that reel. To each his own I guess.

BadBassWV reply :

I think the guy who purchased one of these came on and admitted he didn't like at all after using it. I couldn't find the post. Just don't let the bearing count on reels sway you one way or another. To me anything other than bearings that have to do with the spool, which I think most of the times is only 3. The rest of the bearings are just extra weight. So don't be impressed with 10BB reels.

*Hootie reply :

I think it was "Bigbill'. I never did see any posts as to whether or not he was satisfied with his purchases.

Hootie

Goose52 reply :

Yeah - bigbill. Also, primetime gave another, less favorable review.

bigbill: My $1.40 Chinese Baitcaster Arrived Today.

primetime: Chinese 11 Bearing Baitcasting Review:the One You See Everywhere:

FloridaFishinFool reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 10:22 PM, roadwarrior said:

We have had several guys promoting this junk and supposedly buying the reels.

Oddly, no one has come back with a review, especailly after using them for a year

or so.

Junk? Some may be junk. Some are decent reels. I am replacing all of my Shimano reels with Chinese made Tokushima spinning reels because they are nice reels. I was out fishing with it yesterday.

Not all Chinese made products are junk. It is my opinion a majority of the products people are using today are made in China- even some Shimano products too. And as one comment already mentioned his Pflueger reels are made in China too. And we all know how popular the China made Pflueger president reels have become in America. Are those junk too? If they are, then that is successful junk.

Untold numbers of fishing rods are also made in China- even if it does not say so. A lot of rod blanks are being bought cheaply from China and assembled somewhere else and a well known brand name is applied to it, and people buy them up no wiser for its true origins in China. My point is that a larger percentage of products that we use come from China even if it does not say so. Fishing line is another product often made in China and refined in other countries with a well known brand name. If you do a search on all the companies who actually make gel-spun PE fibers used to make braid and superlines you will find there are only about a dozen companies worldwide who actually make it. But how many brand name companies are selling braid fishing line today? Far more than those who actually make it which can only mean one thing- like many of our reels, the lines we use are in fact made in one of those dozen companies with nearly half of them in China.

A lot of people who buy just the rod blanks from well known American companies who spend hundreds of dollars on rod blanks may not even know they are buying a Chinese made rod blank to build their favorite rod. Is it junk? Guess that is a matter of opinion.

So we sit out here and argue which reel is better when both came out of the same factory. We sit out here and argue which line is better when much of it was all manufactured in the same factory.

Most Boca bearings are sourced from China. I simply choose to go around the middle men like Boca and buy direct from China and save. But you do have to choose wisely as China produces good stuff and cheap bad stuff no doubt.

A lot of people are buying what they think are JDM products when the truth is they are made in Malaysia, Korea, China, Singapore, Philipines, etc. And they try and justify this by saying but it is made for the Japanese markets as though that completely saves the product from a made in China origin. The truth is JDM has two meanings- Japan Domestic Market and Japan Domestic Model. They are two completely different descriptions with two completely different meanings that are largely lost on those who swear by the JDM products not made in Japan. It seems to anger some of them to no end to have to come to the realization their love of JDM is being betrayed because the items they hold in their hands are in reality Chinese made or Korean made, or Malaysia, Singapore, Philipines, etc. anywhere but Japan.

So does this make all that stuff junk too? If so, people sure are buying it up and loving it.

Just yesterday myself and some other forum members met up here in Orlando to do some fishing. They used all Abu reels made in Korea. I had with me only one Shimano reel that said "made in Japan" and all the rest were made in Korea too probably at the very same factory who made the Abu Garcia reels they used.

So we enjoyed a nice day out fishing using a bunch of junk I suppose. But what was nice was our junk performed flawlessly. Very smooth reels. Some reels are many years old and still work like new. Rods made in China. No telling where the lines were made.

My Chinese made Pflueger president reels and my Chinese made Tokushima reels are smoother and easier to operate than any Shimano I have ever owned and today I am replacing the Shimano reels with made in China spinning reels that I like much better.

My Chinese made pfluegers are now 5 years old and still work great like new. My Tokushima spinning reels are now two years old and work great like new. If this stuff is all junk, then I guess I am a junk collector and will continue to collect Chinese junk because it is inexpensive and it works.

You just gotta choose wisely is all I can say and it is often trial and error.

The Vexan rod I used yesterday for the first time ever is marketed by an American company in Iowa. The rod blank was made in China. It is marketed in USA for $150.00. It is super light and was an excellent rod and I had a lot of fun yesterday fishing with that piece of junk. I might even buy some more of them.

BadBassWV reply :

I don't think its so much of a made in china thing. Rather a Made in china $30.00 10BB Reels. You get what you pay for.

FloridaFishinFool reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 10:40 PM, BadBassWV said:
I think the guy who purchased one of these came on and admitted he didn't like at all after using it. I couldn't find the post. Just don't let the bearing count on reels sway you one way or another. To me anything other than bearings that have to do with the spool, which I think most of the times is only 3. The rest of the bearings are just extra weight. So don't be impressed with 10BB reels.

The bearing count for baitcast reels can be misleading. 4 of those bearings are in the handle. You generally find three on the spool, one under the crankshaft, one on the line guide, and one stacked next to the AR bearing which is sometimes also counted as a bearing.

So if you see a baitcast reel touting 10 or 11 ball bearings, you can pretty much figure 4 of those are in the handle. I use several baitcast reels with 10 ball bearings and my pflueger spinning reels have 10 as well, and my Tokushima spinning reels have 13 or 14 ball bearings. A lot of people say the extra bearings don't do much, but if you could see and feel how smooth and easy to operate some of my reels are because of those bearings it might make you a believer too.

I have worked on reels for nearly 35 years and I have moved towards reels with more bearings rather than less. I have reels with fewer bearings and most of them are either gone or tossed into a box unused along with my shimano spinning reels that came with cheap plastic bushings rather than ball bearings.

I have seen and felt the difference that well placed ball bearings can make in a reel and I like it. No turning back for me.

FloridaFishinFool reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 11:11 PM, BadBassWV said:
I don't think its so much of a made in china thing. Rather a Made in china $30.00 10BB Reels. You get what you pay for.

My Tokushima reel cost me $28.00 to my door with free shipping. Today they are now $38 for the same reel. Cabela's marketed them a few years ago for $130.00.

Boca bearing company probably spends less than .50 cents to buy Chinese bearings. Once they are imported to the Boca warehouse, now that same bearing is $17.00.

I sort of figured if I was going to be buying products made in China anyways, I'd just rather buy direct and save and cut out the middle men like Cabela's and Boca and others who mark them up to artificial prices.

I have been doing very well buying direct from China and presently I have no regrets so far.

The only reel from China I did not like was a Bill Dance signature series reel I bought used in a pawn shop because I wanted the rod it was on, not the reel. That made in China Bill Dance reel was cheap junk but I kept the made in China rod. I gave the reel to a kid to learn to fish with it.

By the end of 2015 I plan on all of my spinning reels being Tokushima. All changed over from the Shimanos I have used for years and years including stradics- which I found plastic bushings inside of rather than ball bearings.

Today virtually all of the reels I am buying and using are either from Korea or China.

I just sold my last Shimano Chronarch to some guy in Poland. Hope he likes it. I replaced it with a Korean made Bass Pro Johnny Morris reel and like it better. It may not be as nice as the chronarch at $279.00, but it is smooth and I like it and parts are cheap too if it does break.

***While I do like some Chinese and Korean made rods and reels, I am picky about which ones and have not had any problems with the choices I have made so far, but I can not say the reel the OP is looking is a good or bad reel as I have never had one so please don't consider my support for some Chinese products to include the reel the OP is considering.

*Hootie reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 11:11 PM, BadBassWV said:
I don't think its so much of a made in china thing. Rather a Made in china $30.00 10BB Reels. You get what you pay for.

Exactly, a thirty dollar reel is a thirty dollar reel, is a thirty dollar reel, is a thirty dollar reel. That's not at all complicated.

Hootie

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 11:29 PM, FloridaFishinFool said:

My Tokushima reel cost me $28.00 to my door with free shipping. Today they are now $38 for the same reel. Cabela's marketed them a few years ago for $130.00.

Boca bearing company probably spends less than .50 cents to buy Chinese bearings. Once they are imported to the Boca warehouse, now that same bearing is $17.00.

I sort of figured if I was going to be buying products made in China anyways, I'd just rather buy direct and save and cut out the middle men like Cabela's and Boca and others who mark them up to artificial prices.

I have been doing very well buying direct from China and presently I have no regrets so far.

The only reel from China I did not like was a Bill Dance signature series reel I bought used in a pawn shop because I wanted the rod it was on, not the reel. That made in China Bill Dance reel was cheap junk but I kept the made in China rod. I gave the reel to a kid to learn to fish with it.

By the end of 2015 I plan on all of my spinning reels being Tokushima. All changed over from the Shimanos I have used for years and years including stradics- which I found plastic bushings inside of rather than ball bearings.

Today virtually all of the reels I am buying and using are either from Korea or China.

I just sold my last Shimano Chronarch to some guy in Poland. Hope he likes it. I replaced it with a Korean made Bass Pro Johnny Morris reel and like it better. It may not be as nice as the chronarch at $279.00, but it is smooth and I like it and parts are cheap too if it does break.

You are destroying world's right now, and I like it.

Great truth and logic in this man's posts.

Pay attention.

*Hootie reply :

There are many benefits to getting older. I would hate to think that I made it this far and learned nothing.

Hootie

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 11:44 PM, *Hootie said:

There are many benefits to getting older. I would hate to think that I made it this far and learned nothing.

Hootie

While I love your posts and your 'tongue in cheek' humor, this guy is right.

Your 180 dollar shimano spinning reel? Made in a Chinese factory that also makes what some will call "junk".

While your name brands will have more quality control, and a warranty to a certain degree, you are getting almost the same thing.

I am not arguing that a lot of 30 dollar reels are not junk, rather I am agreeing that you have to shop around.

*Hootie reply :

A wise man learns from the mistakes of others:... Otto von Bismarck

OH YEAH!!....Steve Urkel

Hootie

BadBassWV reply :

Your trying to make an argument for Made In China!! To the OP. The JUNK made in china that sells for $30.00 with 10BB is Just that Junk. Your better of buying a better quality reel be it Shimano, Lews, Daiwa, Quantum which may be full of china parts, but are better reels.

Suspendingjerk reply :

Floridafishinfool, your posts have fallen on deaf ears, as I was afraid they would.

*Hootie reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 11:53 PM, Suspendingjerk said:
Floridafishinfool I am afraid your posts have fallen on deaf ears, as I was afraid they would.

It's not so much the $30.00 reel as it is, who made that reel. Shimano makes a thirty dollar reel, the Sienna. It's more about who makes the reel. The big name companies have a reputation to protect. The"unknowns" don't. Make a boatload of thirty dollar reels and disappear. Happens all the time, and not just with fishing reels.

Hootie

IAY reply :

On 2/15/2015 at 11:50 PM, Suspendingjerk said:

While I love your posts and your 'tongue in cheek' humor, this guy is right.

Your 180 dollar shimano spinning reel? Made in a Chinese factory that also makes what some will call "junk".

While your name brands will have more quality control, and a warranty to a certain degree, you are getting almost the same thing.

I am not arguing that a lot of 30 dollar reels are not junk, rather I am agreeing that you have to shop around.

I am afraid that I do not own a 180 dollar Shimano reel made in China. Sure, it may have parts of it that is made in China, but I trust their QC to GENERALLY make the right decision to source the best parts. Why is that reel 30 dollars? It's because the sales team of that company looked at rest of the products available, and found the most competitive price range for its product, while making the most gross sales. Could that reel be the right one for you? Sure, of course it can! But do not think you are outsmarting the market (very very very few people can do such a thing), by calling it a "better" product.

Alonerankin2 reply :

There is a common theme... The great name of Shimano is the benchmark for all impostors to be compared to!

If a 29.00 shimano spinning reel gets me thru a season of pan fishing, I'm ok with that, if I get longer service out of it, I'm more pleased..

Shimano's Mayla Factory is wholly owned by Shimano, it is turning out exceptional products with excellent quality control.

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:01 AM, IAY said:
I am afraid that I do not own a 180 dollar Shimano reel made in China. Sure, it may have parts of it that is made in China, but I trust their QC to GENERALLY make the right decision to source the best parts. Why is that reel 30 dollars? It's because the sales team of that company looked at rest of the products available, and found the most competitive price range for its product, while making the most gross sales. Could that reel be the right one for you? Sure, of course it can! But do not think you are outsmarting the market (very very very few people can do such a thing), by calling it a "better" product.

I cannot say I have 'outsmarted' the market. I am saying that floridafishinfool has a point, and we should pay attention to what he says.

If it says made in China.. The whole thing is made and assembled in China. I don't know what you were getting at.

I honestly hope you don't believe shimano buys certain parts from China and then assembles them in Japan along with Japan made parts.

FloridaFishinFool reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:00 AM, *Hootie said:

It's not so much the $30.00 reel as it is, who made that reel. Shimano makes a thirty dollar reel, the Sienna. It's more about who makes the reel. The big name companies have a reputation to protect. The"unknowns" don't. Make a boatload of thirty dollar reels and disappear. Happens all the time, and not just with fishing reels.

Hootie

Hootie, one thing you are not considering is that the Chinese realize that a lot of people have low opinions of them. So what are the Chinese doing about it?

For one, the Chinese are buying up name brand companies and buying their already established brand names and market shares and reputations.

And for two, a lot of Chinese companies are getting up on their game to improve their products to earn an improved opinion of them and their products.

And for me, Tokushima has done this with their top of the line spinning reels which I am now buying because they are trying to improve and I like the price for what I am getting. Simple as that. Shimano on the other hand is going backwards in this game.

They are keeping their prices up there while they quietly have more and more of their products made cheaply in China, but keep the prices up there hanging off the coattails of their past reputation.

A perfect example of this is the curado G7 I recently purchased new. It was made in Malaysia. Right out of the box I could feel the gears. My Bass Pro reels are smoother and they are made in Korea. I sold that G7 in less than a week on ebay. With the curado G7 I was paying for an old reputation Shimano threw out the window with their made in Malaysia junk Curado.

*Hootie reply :

If a thirty dollar reel gets you on the water, and you're happy with it, by all means go for it. I am wise enough to know that sometimes that's the only way. I know I am truly blessed to be able to spend pretty much whatever I want on my tackle. Believe me, I am not gloating, I am truly grateful. For, there was a time when that surely was not the case.

Hootie

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:00 AM, *Hootie said:

It's not so much the $30.00 reel as it is, who made that reel. Shimano makes a thirty dollar reel, the Sienna. It's more about who makes the reel. The big name companies have a reputation to protect. The"unknowns" don't. Make a boatload of thirty dollar reels and disappear. Happens all the time, and not just with fishing reels.

Hootie

You are absolutely correct. I mentioned you are paying for the QC and somewhat of a warranty.

IAY reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:06 AM, Suspendingjerk said:

I cannot say I have 'outsmarted' the market. I am saying that floridafishinfool has a point, and we should pay attention to what he says.

If it says made in China.. The whole thing is made and assembled in China. I don't know what you were getting at.

I honestly hope you don't believe shimano buys certain parts from China and then assembles them in Japan along with Japan made parts.

No...it doesn't. FTC says that you can put the "made" in trademark as long as 75% of the cost of manufacturing is incurred in a country.

lmbfisherman reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:06 AM, Suspendingjerk said:

I cannot say I have 'outsmarted' the market. I am saying that floridafishinfool has a point, and we should pay attention to what he says.

If it says made in China.. The whole thing is made and assembled in China. I don't know what you were getting at.

I honestly hope you don't believe shimano buys certain parts from China and then assembles them in Japan along with Japan made parts.

It's not that it's made in China it's that the brand name company has to uphold a certain quality control or they lose market share. The then said backed product would be better than a no name brand who will sell things with less quality control and not "back" their crap. Key is quality control and who builds it (brand).

*Hootie reply :

I don't know if a lot of you younger guys remember, but there was a time when "Made in Japan" was more of a warning than an attraction.

Hootie

IAY reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:16 AM, *Hootie said:

I don't know if a lot of you younger guys remember, but there was a time when "Made in Japan" was more of a warning than an attraction.

Hootie

I studied enough economic history to know that, Japanese companies drove a lot of US ones out of jobs back in the days with some sneaky tactics

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:07 AM, FloridaFishinFool said:

Hootie, one thing you are not considering is that the Chinese realize that a lot of people have low opinions of them. So what are the Chinese doing about it?

For one, the Chinese are buying up name brand companies and buying their already established brand names and market shares and reputations.

And for two, a lot of Chinese companies are getting up on their game to improve their products to earn an improved opinion of them and their products.

And for me, Tokushima has done this with their top of the line spinning reels which I am now buying because they are trying to improve and I like the price for what I am getting. Simple as that. Shimano on the other hand is going backwards in this game.

They are keeping their prices up there while they quietly have more and more of their products made cheaply in China, but keep the prices up there hanging off the coattails of their past reputation.

The name 'fenwick' rings a bell with this post.

I recently was in the market for a spinning rod and was seriously considering buying a Fenwick.. Until I ran across something on the Web about Fenwick being made in China. And the rods not being what they used to. Was a fly fishing forum to be exact.

So I went with Loomis. A rod made in America.

Sure many may prefer the Fenwick equivalent to the Loomis I choose, but I know my dollar was supporting a job here in America.

What I am getting at (excuse my rambling, just got off night shift and have a good buzz going) is floridafishinfool is right. These company's are riding on their prior reputation and dishing out cheaper and cheaper made goods.

lmbfisherman reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:17 AM, IAY said:
I studied enough economic history to know that, Japanese companies drove a lot of US ones out of jobs back in the days with some sneaky tactics

Definitely and China is more under handed imo. They aren't "truly" private, the government pulls a lot of weight.

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:11 AM, lmbfisherman said:
It's not that it's made in China it's that the brand name company has to uphold a certain quality control or they lose market share. The then said backed product would be better than a no name brand who will sell things with less quality control and not "back" their crap. Key is quality control and who builds it (brand).

I have mentioned this in a previous post.

What you aren't picking up on is what floridafishinfool is saying.

If you shop around you can get the same quality. Mind you it doesn't carry the brand name, reputation, 'warranty'.

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:11 AM, IAY said:
No...it doesn't. FTC says that you can put the "made" in trademark as long as 75% of the cost of manufacturing is incurred in a country.

And you honestly believe these humongous corporations aren't cutting costs by bypassing this "rule"?

Don't you think it would be more beneficial to sales if they went ahead and stamped " made in Japan " on these products. Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying here.

IAY reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:20 AM, lmbfisherman said:
Definitely and China is more under handed imo. They aren't "truly" private, the government pulls a lot of weight.

I would say from my small amount of readings, that they are very very similar. The Ministry of International Trade and Industry (MITI) a government entity, organized all of the private companies in Japan, similar to how the government is interacting with Chinese companies for international trades.

tomustang reply :

Being 'made in china' means nothing. Some believe that it's associated with junk because there's products that come from there are junk, but still those same people also buy quality that is also made there that they don't even know of like good electronics, funishings, car parts etc.

The same could be said for america, I've seen alot of junk pass by production floors and meet shelves, the level of QC dropped here but that doesn't matter because it's made here and it has to be better and people will still buy it since it has a usa sticker on it.

Now I'm not saying china makes the best stuff or usa makes junk, but be informative of what you purchase and keep an open mind.

Alonerankin2 reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:16 AM, *Hootie said:

I don't know if a lot of you younger guys remember, but there was a time when "Made in Japan" was more of a warning than an attraction.

Hootie

Yup, I remember a few things, Japanese cars became vogue in the 70's, why? Great cars, dependable, and long lasting. Nevermind great fuel mileage. America had a obligation after the unconditional surrender, we taught them a few things...

lmbfisherman reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:21 AM, Suspendingjerk said:

I have mentioned this in a previous post.

What you aren't picking up on is what floridafishinfool is saying.

If you shop around you can get the same quality. Mind you it doesn't carry the brand name, reputation, 'warranty'.

Yeah saw you post it afterwards.

The key for me is the last part. I like peace of mind.

IAY reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:25 AM, Suspendingjerk said:

And you honestly believe these humongous corporations aren't cutting costs by bypassing this "rule"?

Don't you think it would be more beneficial to sales if they went ahead and stamped " made in Japan " on these products. Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying here.

I do not believe they are trying to bypass the rules, because those companies rely on significant customer relations, which makes up significant part of its value, to throw that away by making illegal cost cutting procedures. I honestly don't care where things are made, as long as I am getting exceptional quality of products. I just want to say that the argument you and floridafishingfool make on how you can "shop" around, and get 30 dollars product that has equivalent performance as a 180 dollars one is simply unrealistic.

BadBassWV reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:32 AM, IAY said:
I do not believe they are trying to bypass the rules, because those companies rely on significant customer relations, which makes up significant part of its value, to throw that away by making illegal cost cutting procedures. I honestly don't care where things are made, as long as I am getting exceptional quality of products. I just want to say that the argument you and floridafishingfool make on how you can "shop" around, and get 30 dollars product that has equivalent performance as a 180 dollars one is simply unrealistic.

Amen!!!!!!!

*Hootie reply :

Guys, you know what makes great fishing gear? This forum and others like it, mainly this one. We have these lively discussions and state what we think. You think the big companies don't read this stuff? We are allowed to say what we really see and really believe. The pros can't do that. They would lose their jobs. Who knows, had it not been for this forum and others like it, we may have been stuck with the Curado g series for a couple more years. While I may disagree with you and you may disagree with me, it's then up to the manufacturers, established and wannabes to sort it all out and give us a decent product. Thank you Glenn for giving us a soapbox. Now,"They better listen"!

Hootie

Suspendingjerk reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:39 AM, *Hootie said:

Guys, you know what makes great fishing gear? This forum and others like it, mainly this one. We have these lively discussions and state what we think. You think the big companies don't read this stuff? We are allowed to say what we really see and really believe. The pros can't do that. They would lose their jobs. Who knows, had it not been for this forum and others like it, we may have been stuck with the Curado g series for a couple more years. While I may disagree with you and you may disagree with me, it's then up to the manufacturers, established and wannabes to sort it all out and give us a decent product. Thank you Glenn for giving us a soapbox. Now,"They better listen"!

Hootie

This is why I love your posts hootie.

And to think I heard irene singing at the end of a long tunnel...

FloridaFishinFool reply :

On 2/16/2015 at 12:32 AM, IAY said:
I just want to say that the argument you and floridafishingfool make on how you can "shop" around, and get 30 dollars product that has equivalent performance as a 180 dollars one is simply unrealistic.

Actually it is not unrealistic. It is becoming the norm more than anything else.

If you want to spend $180.00 on a $30.00 reel that it cost the manufacture to make that is up to you. But if I want to spend $30.00 on a $30.00 reel that has every bit the same performance as the reel you spent $180.00 then who is getting the better deal? That is my point. I simply choose to no longer spend on spent reputations.

I have shimano stradic reels that cost $180.00 that give me less quality of performance than my $30.00 Tokushima.

What some of you are not getting is that your $180.00 reel is simply artificially inflated to that price when the reality of it is it is just another $30.00 reel.

I have experienced this myself. Recently I purchased a Shimano 201G7 and on the bottom of the reel foot it said "made in Malaysia" and right out of the box I could feel the gears meshing. I hate that with a passion. I sold this made in malaysia junk G7 in less than one week on ebay.

Today I have replaced it with made in Korea Bass Pro reels that are super smooth right out of the box and have more features like both centrifugal and magnetic braking adjustable from the outside of the reel so when I am fishing I don't have to disassemble the reel to make an adjustment like the Shimano curado is designed.

Reality shows me I can get the same performance of an artificially inflated reel price of $180.00 in a $30.00 reel.

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On 2/16/2015 at 12:47 AM, Suspendingjerk said:
And to think I heard irene singing at the end of a long tunnel...

I think everyone participating in this thread has had an opportunity for "the last word".

This would be a good place to end an interesting discussion...

Good night Irene.

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