Finesse Fishing From Banks??? 2025
68camaro reply :
As non-boating shore angler, I was wondering if finesse fishing from shoreline make sense?
I was thinking of getting a Orochi XX spinning rod, possibly the Stinger Shot, and learn finesse fishing. Of the Orochi line would this make a good general overall finesse rod, I wouldn't use it for any cranks but maybe some light jerk baits. mostly just use for plastics.
Thanks
JigMe reply :
Finesse fishing is not about location. It is about downsizing your lures and fish it slow. For instance, drop shot is my favorite finesse technique. It will take me minutes to retrieve my lure back, and you can do that from bank or on a boat. I have caught a fair amount of bass fishing from shore using finesse techniques. It is still my favorite way to fish…
buzzed bait reply :
No experience on the rod in question, but finesse fishing from shore is absolutely a possibility. all depends on your water, cover, etc. but i use light line, small lures a lot when fishing 2 small ponds near my house from shore.
Senko lover reply :
Finesse fishing from shore is about all I've been able to do this summer.....fishing in the South has been tough, at least where I live. You'll quickly learn that a dropshot and shakeyhead aren't just vertical lures!
WRB reply :
Fishing from the bank limits where you can fish and what direction the lure travels..on the surface or always uphill.
Spinning tackle is a good choice for finesse fishing and your rod choice is a high end finesse rod. It comes down to line choice so what line do you plan on using?
Tom
blckshirt98 reply :
Before this past summer I fished a dropshot from shore probably 90% of the time. Works great!
68camaro reply :
On 10/16/2015 at 1:33 AM, WRB said:Fishing from the bank limits where you can fish and what direction the lure travels..on the surface or always uphill.
Spinning tackle is a good choice for finesse fishing and your rod choice is a high end finesse rod. It comes down to line choice so what line do you plan on using?
Tom
I have two older Pflueger 4-piece travel rod/reels that have broken rods. I figured I could turn these reels into finesse setup with two different reels. The reels are spec'd for 4-8 lbs, 5.2:1 ratio.
I spooled one up with 6lb Berkley Trilene Mono. I also have some Shakespeare Supreme clear 4lb and a spool of original Stren 4lb Lo-Vis Clear, neither of these say if mono or not.
The line is at least 5 years old and has been stored in garage.
IAY reply :
On 10/16/2015 at 2:16 AM, 68camaro said:I have two older Pflueger 4-piece travel rod/reels that have broken rods. I figured I could turn these reels into finesse setup with two different reels. The reels are spec'd for 4-8 lbs, 5.2:1 ratio.
I spooled one up with 6lb Berkley Trilene Mono. I also have some Shakespeare Supreme clear 4lb and a spool of original Stren 4lb Lo-Vis Clear, neither of these say if mono or not.
The line is at least 5 years old and has been stored in garage.
The rod will be perfectly fine for this application, and there is no reason why you can't use it from the shore.
Cgrinder reply :
I'd recommend a different rod in the XX line because I don't like solid tips.
chee reply :
Finesse fishing works great for bank fishing and many times it can be the only technique catches fish. I fish shaky head, ned rig, drop shot, 1/8 or 1/4 oz jig and small spoons or spinners all the time. They works great here, especially the drop shot. (Almost too effective)
Logan S reply :
Raul reply :
My man, I have caught tons of bass while fishing for bluegills with a UL rod and 4 lb test, my best bass on that kind of set up is a 6.5 lber caught with a Mepps Black Fury size 00 ( no longer available ), but it´s a matter that depends a lot about how much and what type of cover you are going to encounter; that fish came from lake that has no woody cover and very little weedy cover, in other places I fish I would´t dare fishing with such light gear.
bigbill reply :
First Fish Chris the trophy Hunter in CA. Uses a ULTRA LITE rod for big bass. I talked with him years ago on his sight and here too.
I use a 5'6" med spinning rod with 6lb test for smaller lighter baits. I even throw a smaller 1/8oz spinnerbait on it too.
I enjoy switching to the 5'6" rods. I started out bass fishing with a 5' med, 5'6" med and a 6' med spinning rods.
I been upgrading to 6'6", 7', 7'2" rods recently. My different setups are like my children I like them all.
It's fun playing a 3lb bass on a 5' setup.
Fisher-O-men reply :
Any rig can be fished from shore, but the shore fishermen I have observed are missing out on the most productive shore cast. I'm talking about the cast parallel to shore, ahead of you. All the time I see guys fan-casting starting out at a 45 degree angle to the bank. They are missing all those shallow fish that have not yet been spooked.
JustinU1X reply :
Grab a few different colored Senkos and go to town. Besides a lipless crank my second biggest producers is probably a wacky rigged senko on light line.
I also fish from shore.
I.rar reply :
I absolutely love fishing light tackle and almost all of my reports posted have fished caught of 6lb or lighter line... From shore.
I don't have a boat or know anyone who owns one. My go to is my bfs curado on a phenix recon 682. Before I dipped toes into bfs land, I was all about UL spinning tackle.
My main thing was getting snagged on some shorelines so I fish with the most weedless techniques I can from top waters and suspending jerk baits to trigged and split shot 3" senkos and alive shads.
WRB reply :
68camaro, the rod you mentioned is in the $280 price range, that is a high end spinning rod.
If your budget isn't impacted why use an older reel and 5 year old line?
Your line is the connection between you and the bass, good knot strength, sharp hook, smooth reel drag is what matters after you set the hook. Before you set the hook the rod and reel are important, need to cast a long distance sometimes from shore and a smooth quite operating reel balanced with the rod makes the experience more enjoyable.
The finesse soft plastic rigs that work good from shore are: split shot/ mojo rig, finesse C-rig/ slip shot rig, sliding sinker T-rig, nail weight rig, shaky head jig rig, 1/8-1/4 oz jigs with craw trailers, a wide variety of surface and subsurface lures. All these can be used very effectively with .080 - .095 dia. 6 lb to 8 lb mono, copolymer or FC, or braid with leaders.
If you want details on any of the above, be glad to help.
Looking at the rod details, you maybe better off with the standard ml drop rod, the Xfast tip isn't a good all around action, more suited for vertical drop shot presentations.
Tom
68camaro reply :
Great info thanks all.
I just went fishing in pond to try "finesse techniques" for 1 hr using my UL trout gear with a 1/4 oz shakeyhead and white split tail worm thingy. Didn't catch anything or any bites but I think it is because pond has soft bottom with alot of algae on bottom. As far as I could see, due to clear water, the shakeyhead sank below the algae. I think a drop shot would have been a better choice as I think It would have kept worm just above algae.
As far as rod goes:
On 10/16/2015 at 2:47 AM, Cgrinder said:I'd recommend a different rod in the XX line because I don't like solid tips.
Can you explain why? I read this somewhere also. I did find a review from Outdoor world that called this rod the best finesse rod for 2015. What option is there vs. the solid tips and pros/cons?
On 10/16/2015 at 3:20 AM, Stratos20SS said:
I think the Ronin may be a better choice in the XX line up.
The Ronin recommends lures starting at 1/4 oz. and testline up to 16 lbs and is fast action, I like the Stinger because it starts at 1/16 and is extra fast which I think will be real good at skipping under docks/tress etc..
On 10/16/2015 at 5:11 AM, Fisher-O-men said:Any rig can be fished from shore, but the shore fishermen I have observed are missing out on the most productive shore cast. I'm talking about the cast parallel to shore, ahead of you. All the time I see guys fan-casting starting out at a 45 degree angle to the bank. They are missing all those shallow fish that have not yet been spooked.
I have really learned parellel fishing from shore over past month, caught all my biggies within 5 feet of shore. I usually start out close with jig out front, them throwing to left and right, last technique is cranks/jerks fanning way out, then bottom fishing. This usually always works.
On 10/16/2015 at 6:38 AM, JustinU1X said:Grab a few different colored Senkos and go to town. Besides a lipless crank my second biggest producers is probably a wacky rigged senko on light line.
I also fish from shore.
My ponds are heavily fished and I never had luck with wacky rig or t-rig.
68camaro reply :
On 10/16/2015 at 7:10 AM, WRB said:68camaro, the rod you mentioned is in the $280 price range, that is a high end spinning rod.
If your budget isn't impacted why use an older reel and 5 year old line?
Tom, I have the two older Pflueggers and old line around but will look to change reel if I like the finesse fishing. Truth be told Fishing rods/reels are not most expensive hobby I have. Since taken up bass fishing I am saving a lot in ammo costs:)
On 10/16/2015 at 7:10 AM, WRB said:Looking at the rod details, you maybe better off with the standard ml drop rod, the Xfast tip isn't a good all around action, more suited for vertical drop shot presentations.
Tom
Good point as I do not vertical fish, what ml would you recommend, in the XX line? I do like going to the real light baits.
WRB reply :
Rods are personal tools and I am not a MegaBass rod owner. The FS-611XXS drop shot rod has the right specs.
You might want to look at Aaron's Edge Enigma rods, he designed the MegaBass rods.
Tom
68camaro reply :
For those that think the Stinger wouldn't be recommended, what do you think of the 70-xxs shaky-headhead. http://www.megabassusa.com/products/orochi-xx-f3%C2%BD-70xxs-shaky-head
This might be better for horizontal finesse fishing and skipping under structures.
WRB reply :
Better choice for all around spinning rod. You will be able to cast heavier weights with the mojo or slip shot rigs. I use brass Pro-Jo black weights 1/8 to 3/8 oz, 8mm glass tempered bead pegged with Peg-It and Owner 5133 size 1/0 hook for most slip shot rigging. This is a very effective rig from shore, avoid mucky bottoms if possible or use the lightest weight you can cast effectively.On 10/16/2015 at 9:06 AM, 68camaro said:For those that think the Stinger wouldn't be recommended, what do you think of the 70-xxs shaky-headhead. http://www.megabassusa.com/products/orochi-xx-f3½-70xxs-shaky-head
This might be better for horizontal finesse fishing and skipping under structures.
Tom
bigfruits reply :
On 10/16/2015 at 1:25 AM, Senko lover said:You'll quickly learn that a dropshot and shakeyhead aren't just vertical lures!
i usually fish drop pretty fast in shallow water with long casts on a 2 power xf loomis spinning rod. 3/16oz lead weight.
doesnt always have to move slow or stay in place. check out 4:10
Retired@176 reply :
On 10/16/2015 at 5:11 AM, Fisher-O-men said:Any rig can be fished from shore, but the shore fishermen I have observed are missing out on the most productive shore cast. I'm talking about the cast parallel to shore, ahead of you. All the time I see guys fan-casting starting out at a 45 degree angle to the bank. They are missing all those shallow fish that have not yet been spooked.
X2 I live on a lake and my 1st. cast is always parallel to shore from my dock have caught more fish doing this than going for the deep here's
one of todays catch approx. 15 ft. from shore and 20 or so ft. from my dock
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Missourifishin reply :
I'd like to squeeze a question of my own into this topic. Does anyone else have major problems getting snagged finesse fishing from shore? It seems like every time I go to reel a texas rigged worm, for example, in towards the bank I'm hung up on something.
68camaro reply :
On 10/17/2015 at 10:31 AM, Missourifishin said:I'd like to squeeze a question of my own into this topic. Does anyone else have major problems getting snagged finesse fishing from shore? It seems like every time I go to reel a texas rigged worm, for example, in towards the bank I'm hung up on something.
I started this thread a couple days ago because I wanted to learn finesse fishing from shore. Yesterday and today I went to two ponds and one lake by me to finesse with one on my 5'5" UL spinning reel set ups with mod-extra fast action.
I quickly discovered that shaky-head techniques would not work because my pond bottoms are very soft and have alot of algae on bottom so jig and bait get lost.
I then tried drop shots with weight 18" and 2' below bait. The bait and weight got all caught up in the pond algae and weeds and the weeds in the lake really negatively impacted the technique. Because the water was real clear I was able to see bait a good bait out and it was not presenting correctly.
Unless I can figure out a fix, I am thinking of forgetting a finessee rod and just get a specialized Jerk Bait rod instead. For the little I can finesse from shore without getting tangled up I think I have a trout rod with spinning reel I can use.
Begore going home I swithed to a Terminator T-1 spinner on my 6'6" MH/F St. Croix and caught three bass in 20 minutes, running it on top and through the algae.
bigbill reply :
Look for a rocky point or Rocky/ gravel bottom to try it. I have a 5' med rod also with a 1000/100 size spinning reel with 6lb test it's also perfect for smaller baits.
Hogsticker reply :
68Camaro - If you're getting hung up or to much gunk on your bait to present it correctly, I suggest the following two things. Try using a small 2 / 2.5 inch grub or paddle tail type bait on a 1/16 Oz swimbait style jig head. Swim it just above the algea. This will take some trial and error to get your retrieve just right. Remember you will need to speed your retrieve up the closer you get to shore as your fishing an incline. Also try a flick shake trick style worm on a 1/16 Oz wacky head. Most of the time the fish will grab this on the drop as it's coming to them. Once you feel you're on the bottom, pick it up and cast to a different spot. This is still finesse fishing and you can get your finesse fix. I recommend 25 to 20 pound braid for this as fluorocarbon will speed up the rate of fall and I assume what you're fishing is relatively shallow.
John G reply :
68camaro, if muck and other crap on the bottom is your enemy, then weightless soft plastics are your friend. It could be a Senko, craw, any style or size of worm, Zoom Flukes etc etc. You can rig the plastic Texas style without the weight, Wacky Rig, or something the Japanese have been doing is kinda Texas style except in the middle instead of nose hooked. Just go to YouTube and watch videos on fishing weightless soft plastics.
68camaro reply :
On 10/17/2015 at 4:16 PM, Hogsticker said:68Camaro - If you're getting hung up or to much gunk on your bait to present it correctly, I suggest the following two things. Try using a small 2 / 2.5 inch grub or paddle tail type bait on a 1/16 Oz swimbait style jig head. Swim it just above the algea. This will take some trial and error to get your retrieve just right. Remember you will need to speed your retrieve up the closer you get to shore as your fishing an incline. Also try a flick shake trick style worm on a 1/16 Oz wacky head. Most of the time the fish will grab this on the drop as it's coming to them. Once you feel you're on the bottom, pick it up and cast to a different spot. This is still finesse fishing and you can get your finesse fix. I recommend 25 to 20 pound braid for this as fluorocarbon will speed up the rate of fall and I assume what you're fishing is relatively shallow.
thanks for ideas, I will try these this weekend. I think I can raid my trout tackle box for all this stuff. This won't be the first time I raided trout gear for bass needs:)
On 10/17/2015 at 6:57 PM, John G said:68camaro, if muck and other crap on the bottom is your enemy, then weightless soft plastics are your friend. It could be a Senko, craw, any style or size of worm, Zoom Flukes etc etc. You can rig the plastic Texas style without the weight, Wacky Rig, or something the Japanese have been doing is kinda Texas style except in the middle instead of nose hooked. Just go to YouTube and watch videos on fishing weightless soft plastics.
John, thanks. Because my areas are heavily fished I don't think I gave plastics are fair shot. I have had luck with Rage Chunk on swimming jig through heavy stuff with frog rod, but I gave up early on finesse type worms due to lack of success.
Now that weather cooler I probably should try these again.
68camaro reply :
On 10/17/2015 at 1:32 PM, bigbill said:Look for a rocky point or Rocky/ gravel bottom to try it. I have a 5' med rod also with a 1000/100 size spinning reel with 6lb test it's also perfect for smaller baits.
Sadly, the biggest issue is I don't have these areas by me accessible from shore. I would love using a shaky-head technique but just won't work in my spots.
John G reply :
On 10/17/2015 at 7:11 PM, 68camaro said:thanks for ideas, I will try these this weekend. I think I can raid my trout tackle box for all this stuff. This won't be the first time I raided trout gear for bass needs:)
John, thanks. Because my areas are heavily fished I don't think I gave plastics are fair shot. I have had luck with Rage Chunk on swimming jig through heavy stuff with frog rod, but I gave up early on finesse type worms due to lack of success.
Now that weather cooler I probably should try these again.
If I had to pick a lure to fish with for the rest of my life, it would be a Zoom Fluke. Just use the search feature on this Site or use Google, there are all kinds of posts on this lure and the reason is because it produces and unless you have an exposed hook, it is just about immune to muck and it's easy to fish. They also come in 4 or 5 different sizes and tons of colors.
68camaro reply :
On 10/17/2015 at 7:34 PM, John G said:If I had to pick a lure to fish with for the rest of my life, it would be a Zoom Fluke. Just use the search feature on this Site or use Google, there are all kinds of posts on this lure and the reason is because it produces and unless you have an exposed hook, it is just about immune to muck and it's easy to fish. They also come in 4 or 5 different sizes and tons of colors.
Since I don't have one if these I will pick a couple up and see how it goes - thanks
Josh Smith reply :
I keep an ultralight rigged with a 4" Yum Dinger for missed strikes. The leader is either 8lb fluoro or 4lb Trilene XL, depending.
It works very nicely, and I can always re-rig for panfish if I want food.
Josh
68camaro reply :
I have had some luck with the ideas people here have given so Finessee fishing from shore will work for me in my fishing spots.
Now that I know it works for me I dedecided against the Orochi XX Stinger and instead purchased a Orochi F3-610X4S Aarons Martin Ltd, Tackle trap had it for 20% off. The 610-X4S gives me more flexibility to cover wider range of finessee techniques with bait sizes from 1/16 to 1/2 oz. also it is a med-light/medium with mod. Fast action as oppossed to Stinger Extra fast.
I also found small river by me with harder bottoms so shakey-heads will really work. Still deciding on reel.
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