Chronarch Or Curado 50/51 Questions 2025
shimmy reply :
Since these are obviously great reels, i had a few questions concerning their use with thicker line like 15 pound fluoro trilene. I know the dimensions are 12/85 for the chronarch and was wondering if anyone has put thicker line on them and fished jigs. Obviously i know it can cast them and fish them, my question is this, i fish a lot of 1/4 ounce jigs but often in a boat with 3-4 people. Casting distance is an advantage with this many people since even if you are last in the boat, you can still hit spots others cannot. So, with 15 pound test, would i unspool on every cast and how would this affect the gear ratio with this particular reel since other reels have more drastic effects when low on lines compare to others. Any thoughts? I know there are a lot who own the 50/51 series so your input would be great.
I have to use 15 pound test due to northern pike infested waters. Anything less, even thin diameter like seaguar invizx 15 pound is too thin for some of the lakes and with so many people in the boat, having your lure snipped off consistently means someone else is going to take your spot. Thoughts?
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
30# braid with a 15# leader.....
iabass8 reply :
I use 15lb fluoro one one of my 51s and have no issues with it. You wnt spool every cast or gwt close unless you are usng 1oz weights and fey ng to huck it a mile.
aavery2 reply :
Step up your reel to a 200 series. The Curado E series reels are the same basic design as the new Chronarchs, if you want an actual Chronarch take a look at the B series reel, it is a little heavy but extremely smooth and it will have the line capacity your after. You could also look at the Chronarch D series, but they are a little harder to find.
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 1:22 AM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:30# braid with a 15# leader.....
i think my main problem is i am not a braid type of guy. Never really like the stuff. Furthermore, with the high amount of fish we catch due to the lakes sheer awesomeness, we have to retie much more than usual so having a tag end of 15 pound of a few feet would run out within a few hours of fishing and i'd have to put on another tag end constantly. Just a lot of time not fishing.
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 1:32 AM, aavery2 said:Step up your reel to a 200 series. The Curado E series reels are the same basic design as the new Chronarchs, if you want an actual Chronarch take a look at the B series reel, it is a little heavy but extremely smooth and it will have the line capacity your after. You could also look at the Chronarch D series, but they are a little harder to find.
yeh, i am still considering a 200 type but want something that can launch 1/4 ounce jigs a mile. After a few times of using a 51 curado, i was sold that 200's can not launch a jig of that type weight as far. I would get a chronarch D in a heart beat but they are as you say impossible and you have to put a mortage on the home to pay for it.
aavery2 reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 1:35 AM, shimmy said:yeh, i am still considering a 200 type but want something that can launch 1/4 ounce jigs a mile. After a few times of using a 51 curado, i was sold that 200's can not launch a jig of that type weight as far. I would get a chronarch D in a heart beat but they are as you say impossible and you have to put a mortage on the home to pay for it.
The 200E Curado would probably not be the best choice with 1/4oz and 12lb test line, certainly pushing it's capabilities. Have you considered a high quality spinning combo?
iabass8 reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 1:47 AM, aavery2 said:The 200E Curado would probably not be the best choice with 1/4oz and 12lb test line, certainly pushing it's capabilities. Have you considered a high quality spinning combo?
the 200e has no issues throwing 1/4oz baits on 12lb fluoro. The 50 would still be a better option.
aavery2 reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 2:00 AM, iabass8 said:the 200e has no issues throwing 1/4oz baits on 12lb fluoro. The 50 would still be a better option.
Not saying that it can't be done, just that it is on the edge of its capability, and there are other reels that would easily out perform a Curado 200e when throwing 1/4 oz on 12lb line.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Use the 50 with 12# YoZuri. Going to be stronger than tge fluoro, and wont have to sacrifice performance.
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 1:32 AM, shimmy said:i think my main problem is i am not a braid type of guy. Never really like the stuff. Furthermore, with the high amount of fish we catch due to the lakes sheer awesomeness, we have to retie much more than usual so having a tag end of 15 pound of a few feet would run out within a few hours of fishing and i'd have to put on another tag end constantly. Just a lot of time not fishing.
Then get yourself a larger reel... you can't have it all. It takes less than a minute to tie on a new leader. The way I see it, you will be respooling your reel every couple hours using a 50E.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Well saying it casts a mile doesnt actually help much. Ill say for me I would get 100-120feet out of a 1/4oz jig with a baby ragetail craw using my 50E and 7' MF Smoke rod. Im not saying others cant get farther but think that is more reasonable than 5,280feet. 
I would have it set with one or two brakes 2 when the wind is up(most of the time).
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 2:22 AM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:Then get yourself a larger reel... you can't have it all. It takes less than a minute to tie on a new leader. The way I see it, you will be respooling your reel every couple hours using a 50E.
I would like to see someone post a video from start to finish of tying braided line to a fluorocarbon leader, taking the line out from the bag, the whole shabang in less than a minute while being 100% confident in their line not separating. Please post a video. If it took less than a minute than i'd agree with you.
Large mouth Gambler, your suggestion is a possibility. Wonder how that would hold up with the toothy critters. the .The .13 diameter is slightly smaller than .15 of the 15 pound test and i have found that 15 pound test trilene fluoro is about the width that can survive most hooksets on a northern, while there are some bites that no line can stop from a break off, i have found the 15 pound forgiving.
LgMouthGambler reply :
It doesnt matter what you use for toothy creatures, they will cut the line unless its wire leader. You either have to be set up for Bass, or set up for Pike.On 10/27/2012 at 2:36 AM, shimmy said:I would like to see someone post a video from start to finish of tying braided line to a fluorocarbon leader, taking the line out from the bag, the whole shabang in less than a minute while being 100% confident in their line not separating. Please post a video. If it took less than a minute than i'd agree with you.
Large mouth Gambler, your suggestion is a possibility. Wonder how that would hold up with the toothy critters. the .The .13 diameter is slightly smaller than .15 of the 15 pound test and i have found that 15 pound test trilene fluoro is about the width that can survive most hooksets on a northern, while there are some bites that no line can stop from a break off, i have found the 15 pound forgiving.
J Francho reply :
I use a Daiwa TD-Sol/Alphas for all my cranking rods. They have a similar line capacity as the 50, and I don't have issues with running out of line or drastically different line pick up. You'll be fine.
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 2:41 AM, LgMouthGambler said:It doesnt matter what you use for toothy creatures, they will cut the line unless its wire leader. You either have to be set up for Bass, or set up for Pike.
On the contrary, it does. Anything less than 15 and you will lose a lot of jigs. Put on 20 pound triline and it is very hard to get broke off. Fishing on 20 pound triline, i usually break off 2-4 jigs in a week to northern. Using 15 pound makes me lose around 15 jigs. The thicker diameter allows me to get my jig back, have half of the line cut away and luckily get the jiggy back. Yes, there is a huge forgiveness factor between 15 and 20 pound line with those nasty things.
J Francho reply :
Try P-Line CXX. It seems to hold up pretty well. I've caught a TON of leaderless toothies with it, including this one on 8# CXX:
roadwarrior reply :
That's quite a fish!
LgMouthGambler reply :
Then use a 20# leader.On 10/27/2012 at 2:52 AM, shimmy said:On the contrary, it does. Anything less than 15 and you will lose a lot of jigs. Put on 20 pound triline and it is very hard to get broke off. Fishing on 20 pound triline, i usually break off 2-4 jigs in a week to northern. Using 15 pound makes me lose around 15 jigs. The thicker diameter allows me to get my jig back, have half of the line cut away and luckily get the jiggy back. Yes, there is a huge forgiveness factor between 15 and 20 pound line with those nasty things.
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 3:51 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Then use a 20# leader.
Takes him too much time to tie on a leader....
LgMouthGambler reply :
Then your just going to have to step up to a 200 series Chronarch or Curado to use 15-20#. You will have ni line capacity with a 50/51.
tomustang reply :
Shimmy, do you use anything heavier than 1/4oz?
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 3:55 AM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:Takes him too much time to tie on a leader....
still waiting for the video response. Maybe your quick draw of the hands is what caught you that 10 pounder in your profile pic...
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 8:27 AM, tomustang said:Shimmy, do you use anything heavier than 1/4oz?
i do, i always start light and then move heavier. Just kind of a habit. And obviously in wind i go heavier but i already have a set up for heavier jigs.
iabass8 reply :
I doubt hes going to make a video for you about tying leaders when hundreds are available over the internet. A minute may be a stretch for you time frame of start to finish with getting the spool out, tying the leader, lure etc. The only time i use a leader is with a spinning set up and light line requiring more wraps and a little more attention to the knot. The entire process easily takes under 3 minutes once you get proficient with knots. If you want to use a line that is 15# or heavier on a curado series then you will be a lot happier with a 200 series reel. I own quite a few 200/50e curados and while i have put larger fluoro on a 50, it was taken off and put back on a 200 basically for line capacity. If you are limiting yourself to this one reel for w/e technique you are using Rh n you will probably go through quite a bit of the sppol each trip retying lure/jigs with 15-20lb line where with a 200 you will not. Really the only way you will get a set up with a 50e curado using 15-20lb test that wont be a headache is using braid with a fluoro leader. You will hardly go through much braid usikg a leader and if you tie a 6-8 foot leader properly it will most likely never break at the connection. I cant remember the last time mine broke using 6lb 832 to a 7lb leader..
tomustang reply :
At times I throw 1/4 jigs on 15lb line (mono/copoly), not really a problem on the 200 size, for me at least. Might need some practice to coax out there but you'll get good distance. Around here though we have pickerel/musky/pike problem here and I can't really say 15-20lb line stops the cut, it's more about hook placement when it comes to non steel.
I was asking about the weight size since 1/4oz is small and if I recommend using a steel leader then a larger size should help a bass focus more on the lure. At times when I fish in a toothy critter area I'll use a short (6-8in) steel leader around 30lb and cut off the snap swivel and tie directly and replace the clasp with a smaller one.
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 8:49 AM, shimmy said:still waiting for the video response. Maybe your quick draw of the hands is what caught you that 10 pounder in your profile pic...
You asked a question cause you obviously had no clue, and then you just whine like a school girl. . 
rubba bubba reply :
I spooled one of my 51's with 17lb fluoro and didn't care for how it handled. I felt the spool was too light for the big/bulky line and that the 17lbs line was a better match to a Revo/ProQ/Zillion of mine with their heavier spools. Line capacity was not a problem in any way, however.
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 9:54 AM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:You asked a question cause you obviously had no clue, and then you just whine like a school girl. .
This is what i expected you would look like in a video, a little less harrier though which caught me by surprise.
shimmy reply :
On 10/27/2012 at 9:23 AM, iabass8 said:I doubt hes going to make a video for you about tying leaders when hundreds are available over the internet. A minute may be a stretch for you time frame of start to finish with getting the spool out, tying the leader, lure etc. The only time i use a leader is with a spinning set up and light line requiring more wraps and a little more attention to the knot. The entire process easily takes under 3 minutes once you get proficient with knots. If you want to use a line that is 15# or heavier on a curado series then you will be a lot happier with a 200 series reel. I own quite a few 200/50e curados and while i have put larger fluoro on a 50, it was taken off and put back on a 200 basically for line capacity. If you are limiting yourself to this one reel for w/e technique you are using Rh n you will probably go through quite a bit of the sppol each trip retying lure/jigs with 15-20lb line where with a 200 you will not. Really the only way you will get a set up with a 50e curado using 15-20lb test that wont be a headache is using braid with a fluoro leader. You will hardly go through much braid usikg a leader and if you tie a 6-8 foot leader properly it will most likely never break at the connection. I cant remember the last time mine broke using 6lb 832 to a 7lb leader..
Thanks for the insight with your experience concerning this reel. I really didn't want to watch a video of it. I'm well aware of how to tie the knots, just pullin what's his buckets leg. I appreciate your advice. So, it seems the best line choice to do without a leader thus far is using seaguar invizx type line or possibly P-line CXX as JFrancho mentioned. Just love those 51's though, and am kinda bummed about the line problem.
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