Feathered Treble Hook Help 2024

TriCityBassin' reply : 

I have tried to tie my own feathered trebles for baits but can't seem to get a good product.  AND I am tired of the Gamakatsu carnage on my fingers...those things are SHARP!

 

Any tips? Or better yet....anyone interested in a small retainer to supply me with hooks? lol

 

I admit...I am cheap and don't want to buy all the nice little vises and things for fly tying.  I know, you can't fix a sink with a hammer (wait......that may work).

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flyfisher reply : 

With no vice maybe you can rig up something with a pair of locking vise grips. I would get a cheap vise and go with that because you will save the hassle.

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slowpoke274 reply : 

harbor freight if you have one nearby has a nifty little gator clip vise called helping hands for 3.00 that will help you out

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Broke bass fisherman reply : 

  On 1/20/2013 at 4:44 AM, slowpoke274 said:

harbor freight if you have one nearby has a nifty little gator clip vise called helping hands for 3.00 that will help you out

Harbor freight also does online orders. Ridiculously cheap tools. China imports mostly but you should be able to find what you need with shipping for under 20 bucks.

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jhoffman reply : 

Ill tie ya whatever you want, you pay for the materials and dont make an outrageous request like 100 at a time, I just dont have time to do that many. But if you want a dozen or two on some trebles I can help. I own a TON of fly tying materials.

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TriCityBassin' reply : 

Thanks guys!

jhoffman, i sent you a pm.

I also live 10min from Harbor Freight and will check out the little vice.  I love the stuff at Harbor freight.  As a "shade tree mechanic" I cannot always buy Craftsman and Cobalt

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jhoffman reply : 

Just waitn on what you wanna do and we will make it happen

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TriCityBassin' reply : 

Sorry, been busy with work

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Snakehead Whisperer reply : 

I use an electronics vice designed for soldering circuit boards. It's indispensable. They run around $25 on amazon/ebay, and this tool will last a long time.

http://www.panavise.com/index.html?pageID=1&page=full&--eqskudatarq=1

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jhoffman reply : 

Finished up six of tricities two dozen this morning.

 

When the order is finished Ill show you guys them all.

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smalljaw67 reply : 

  On 1/30/2013 at 10:19 PM, jhoffman said:

Finished up six of tricities two dozen this morning.

 

When the order is finished Ill show you guys them all.

 

You're even giving him grizzly hackle.....Maybe you should do mine instead of me doing them, I just use plain hackle.

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jhoffman reply : 

  On 1/30/2013 at 10:43 PM, smalljaw67 said:

You're even giving him grizzly hackle.....Maybe you should do mine instead of me doing them, I just use plain hackle.

 

Heres the options he had

 

Feathers -

Grizzly - black/white barred

Cree(Its a barred, brown black white combo, look it up, cree feathers)

Brown

Cream(more white than cream)

Gray/Dun

Black

Olive

Hungarian Partridge

Pheasant breast feathers(hearts)

Other Materials -

Peacock Herl(shimmering green but fragile)

Natural Deer Hair

Moose Main

Orange Hair

Yellow Hair

Olive Hair

Black Hair

Rabbit Fur

Beaver Fur

Marabou - Olive, Black, Purple

Flash - Pick for EVERY hook group( example - 3 size 6 hooks with white feathers and clear flash)

Red

Blue

Brown

Clear

Specify if you dont want flash in a certain group

Do you want red or black kevlar or a different color(the other colors are not kevlar)

 

And thats not every material I have, I have some that I havent tested to see how they work, synthetics and what not

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jhoffman reply : 

hes getting:

 

3 #6 and 3#4 hooks tied with the Grizzly, clear flash and Black Kevlar (assuming that is thread).
3#4's tied with Gray, clear flash and Black Kevlar.
3 #6 with Black Feathers, blue Flash and Black Kevlar.

 

Plus a dozen #6's of my own creations/imaginations

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Hanover_Yakker reply : 

I'd be interested in some as well. I have a whole batch of red #4 Shaughnessy VMC hooks for saltwater I use to replace all of my resar trebles on my MirrOlures. Most of the ones I have purchased in the past are the 2pk Owner Tournament dressed trebles.

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jhoffman reply : 

I can help you guys out after I finish his order. I should be shipping his saturday. Send me a PM if youre intersted. Cost is based mainly on hook chosen and materials. For example, that cree neck runs about $30 just for the feathers so if you want all those they will have to be more price wise.

 

Id also prefer from this point forward to only do orders of whatever size the hook packs come in up to a max of a dozen.

 

Example: The hooks I tied here on gamakatzu hooks...

 

6's come in a pack of 12

4's come in a pack of 11

 

If I have to order hooks and what not that might take more time. My local shops are very limited in the hooks they offer. Its better if you can send me the hooks you want with your specs and I charge for material/time/shipping. Trust me, it will be much cheaper than going to the manufacturer.

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jhoffman reply : 

Heres 8 full on custom ones that I just came up with on the fly. Ill need to take a picture of the black and gray yet, I am going to split the last 4 hooks into the colors he asked for to ensure that he has as many useful ones as possible.

 

Note that on the hair ones with two colors that I paid attention to how it would hang on the split ring so it can be dark on top like a baitfish.

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jhoffman reply : 

Left to right

 

Top Row

 

Natural Bucktail - Two colors like a dace

Black and Red Deer Hair

White Marabou with Red Flash

 

Middle Row

Golden Pheasant Crest

Peacock Herl

Black Marabou With Blue Flash

 

Bottom Row

Wood Duck / Clear Flash

Pheasant Hearts / Brown Flash

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jhoffman reply : 

Finished, shipping today. Now I can get back to my tackle... wooo woo

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ClackerBuzz reply : 

  On 2/1/2013 at 9:02 PM, jhoffman said:

Heres 8 full on custom ones that I just came up with on the fly. Ill need to take a picture of the black and gray yet, I am going to split the last 4 hooks into the colors he asked for to ensure that he has as many useful ones as possible.

 

Note that on the hair ones with two colors that I paid attention to how it would hang on the split ring so it can be dark on top like a baitfish.

very nice.  i used to kill it fly fishing a Black Marabou streamer w/ gold bead.  i can't believe i don't see marabou used more in bass fishing.  any thoughts? i see lots of plain white feathers (don't know the official kind).

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jhoffman reply : 

Marabou is fairly weak. I use it in a lot of "hair jigs". Whats neat about it is that it actually breathes. Maybe no one has ever brought it to market to test if it would sell.

 

I have a KILLER idea for bass fishing but I need to make some contacts with people who can ensure I dont lose what might be my only money making thought in this lifetime. I really wish I could just blurt it out and tell you what this idea is but I honestly believe that it could set the bass fishing world on fire so I am watching myself till I get some contacts made. When I finally expose it people are going to go... well duh, why didnt I think of that.

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Maico1 reply : 

I like to tie myself...What I have learned over the years instead of using the standard of white or black etc..By tying colors that are in the body of the bait as well as creating a contrast at the same time, you will end up with an extension of the bait which seems to be more natural to the fish.

 

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jhoffman reply : 

I like that orange belly one.

 

Part of the issue here was I had no idea what hook would go on what bait. Like you, when I tie my own I can tie in the color schemes.

 

Those are nice baits!

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jhoffman reply : 

For anyone out there who may be wondering... you can buy white and make almost any of the brighter colors with coolaid. I have done so to tie a hint of orange into sulphurs as the ones here have an orange abdomen.

 

Take the coolaid and mix it up strong, say only a cup, replace water with vinegar and dip it in. You could do the same with food coloring too, like an easter egg.

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Maico1 reply : 

  On 2/2/2013 at 11:06 AM, jhoffman said:

I like that orange belly one.

 

Part of the issue here was I had no idea what hook would go on what bait. Like you, when I tie my own I can tie in the color schemes.

 

Those are nice baits!

I hear you......Another thing I like to do is play around by tying them longer, field test them and trim them up accordingly until they get into the sweet spot.......

 

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Jigfishn10 reply : 

There is some fine looking trebles on here! Here's my version of a teaser tail on a spook:

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jhoffman reply : 

Lookn good boys, you can send both of those baits this way 

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Maico1 reply : 

  On 2/2/2013 at 9:56 PM, Jigfishn10 said:

There is some fine looking trebles on here! Here's my version of a teaser tail on a spook:

That is reel sweet.....

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Jigfishn10 reply : 

  On 2/2/2013 at 10:23 PM, jhoffman said:

Lookn good boys, you can send both of those baits this way 

I wish I could, but this one has caught a few too many fish and needs to stay in my tackle box...You don't want me to send you something that works do ya?...LOL

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Jigfishn10 reply : 

Thanks Maico! I tried to "like" your post but I got this message:

 

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jhoffman reply : 

Heres two more of my personal baits i just did.

 

I have the water boiling for the boiled crankbait thread but I wont be able to test swim. The air temp is 8 degrees and the stream is a raging muddy mess.

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Jigfishn10 reply : 

Not a treble, but how about a Zonker for a trailer? I caught my PB with this, I call it a SpinHareBait...LOL

 

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bassfanpa reply : 

Jhoffman...nice ties.  I'd recommend if you are going to use necks instead of saddle hackle to pull your feathers higher up and outside on the neck.  These are softer.  Also, reverse your feathers so they flare outwards, that way they move on a pause.  Just a thought.  Otherwise, nice job on the trailers!  They'll catch em!

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bmlum415 reply : 

  On 1/20/2013 at 2:40 AM, TriCityBassin said:

I have tried to tie my own feathered trebles for baits but can't seem to get a good product.  AND I am tired of the Gamakatsu carnage on my fingers...those things are SHARP!

 

Any tips? Or better yet....anyone interested in a small retainer to supply me with hooks? lol

 

I admit...I am cheap and don't want to buy all the nice little vises and things for fly tying.  I know, you can't fix a sink with a hammer (wait......that may work).

i tie my own trebles for jerkbaits and i couldnt do this with out my $20 vice lol, they can be fairly cheap, i cant tie my jigs and flies without it either so i suggest you invest in a cheap one it will help in the long run

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RODNEY reply : 

You can buy a cheap vise for around 15 dollars and there are some good you tube vids on tying with out needing a drug store next door.

Rodney

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jhoffman reply : 

  On 2/3/2013 at 9:45 AM, bassfanpa said:

Jhoffman...nice ties.  I'd recommend if you are going to use necks instead of saddle hackle to pull your feathers higher up and outside on the neck.  These are softer.  Also, reverse your feathers so they flare outwards, that way they move on a pause.  Just a thought.  Otherwise, nice job on the trailers!  They'll catch em!

 

I would do that but keep in mind that this is my fly tying stock also so these necks the upper feathers are very small as theyre higher quality, were talking hackles for size 24 flies, it would look goofy.

 

I understand your theory on the flare also my thoughts when tying these a lot of the time is to make it sleek however a fishes tail does naturally flare. These feathers also lay very strait by nature, my thought is a prefer the sheen to show outwards from my background in tying streamers.

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Bass Junkie reply : 

Very nice work in display guys!! I had not realized we had this much talent working around here.

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