TURTLES 2024
Hooked On Bass Fishing reply :
Anybody have any problems with turtles. There are huge turtles in the pond i fish. I have caught 2 out of the lake. They make me so mad think you have a good fish. TURTLE
jake reply :
I can only think of maybe 2 times that a turtle has taken a bait of mine. Both snappers. Its a wonder we dont have more problems. We have lots of big turtles where we fish.
Troutfisher reply :
Lots of large turtles as well here.
The owner of a pond here instructed me to kill them.
BucketmouthAngler13 reply :
i love turtles!
it is very hard too land a good sized one using a rod and it takes alot of skill. plus, it is great practice for landing big bass.
jtbassman reply :
Yep, always have the 12 gauge ready at our pond.
Mak reply :
yallve only caught 2 turtles
when i used to fish with worms and a bobber id catch them all the time. and whenever i carp fish turtles mess with me. but i just wish fish were like turtles. the turtles in my lake will swim from across the lake to see whats on the bobber.
turtle story:
when me and my friend were on his boat we road out past this very big tree that had fallen in the water, probably 100ish feet long and there wasnt room for one more turtle to fit on the tree. then when we went into another part of the lake there was another tree (not quite as long mabey 20 feet shorter) filled with turtles too. atleast their not snappers
fishingrulz reply :
Yea they can be a pain...Some people purposely fish for them in ponds I fish. Then I laugh when they get all angry trying to get the hook out. Don't complain after you purposely hook it.
ScroGG ToGG reply :
Havent hooked a turtle in a long time but yesterday i was slow rollin a spinnerbait and they kept chasing it back to the boat, but they poor guys just wernt fast enough. :'(
Troutfisher reply :
Here's a small turtle that I caught a while back. Not a snapper, but something similar. This kind of turtle doesn't bother me as much as a snapper would. I've caught several snappers out of a private pond before...they can really damage a fish population. >
Hooked On Bass Fishing reply :
Exactly! There are two reasons i dont like turtles. They kill fish and they are just a pain in the arse.
sniksoh reply :
i have caught one turtle in the pond that i fish...it was about basketball size.but yeah...it suck when you think u have a fish but all u have is a stupid turtle!!! >
sinking minnow reply :
Look this florida freshwater tortoise that I fished with a excalibur walker the first day I went fishing on Pisuerga river, Spain.
Since them I have seen much more...They shouldn 't survive here because less 10 ºF on winter but I think that they buried on the winter and hey survive...
56 crestliner reply :
in my neck of the woods everybody traps turtles so you catch a turtle it is easy to find a place to take it 
W4c reply :
I got it on chicken liver
bass2187 reply :
Troutfisher that is a common musk turtle. They go CRAZY for live worms. They chase those things as fast as they can disregarding what ever else is going on.
And BTW the turles do survive the winter. They bury themselves on the bottom of the lake and stay there for the winter.
WhiteMike1018 reply :
YOU GUYS ARE F******* TERRIBLE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BRING A TWELVE GUAGD WITH YOU IN CASE YOU CATCH A TURTLE? DONT KILL TURTLES, THATS WRONG, THEY MEAN NO HARM TO YOU, JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO FISH DOSENT MEAN ITS RIGHT FOR YOU TO TAKE THE LIFE OF THEESE HARMLESS REPTILES > > > > > > > :'( :'( :'( > > :-[ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
BASS fisherman reply :
I caught this turtle on a 4inch dinger at 3am one night. I let him go though.
Take me fishing 2 reply :
ACTUALLY - It is a myth that turtles damage fish population in ponds, as far as them eating them and what not. They are too slow to catch most fish. Snappers have to sit very still with their tongue wiggling to land a fish, and most other types of turtles eat something else. This info is in Oklahoma Hunters Guide they put out each fall, so I constantly show it or relay it to folks who "turtle hunt" because they think the turtles are messing up their fishing. The turtles are actually harmless. Please don't hurt them, shoot them, kill them, rip the hook out etc. No, I am no tree hugger, but I do love animals, and turtles are at the top of my list. It might be a pain to hook em and get the hook out, but consider it good practice for when you catch a large fish. Besides, thats just a risk you take when you fish. It's not like a turtle intentionally ruins your day, but if you are harming or killing them, you are intentionally ruining theirs! God Bless
Lady Bass reply :
no problems so far with turtles.I have seen quite a few of them recently.I was fishing by cattails one afternoon and there was this little turtle on a rock sunning himself it looked liked.every once in a while he would go in the water and then return to his rock.I never told any kids because I don't want them taking the turtle out of his home.and then one other time my husband and I was going down this path in the woods to the lake to fish and I looked around to make sure there we're no snakes and saw a hugh turtle just sitting there.he looked real old.so my dummy husband takes his shoe and moves him a little bit to see if he was alright.well the turtle looks at him and then turns around and for some reason he lost his balance and rolled down in to the water.I felt bad and blamed it on my husband.I am a animal lover so please don't hurt the turtle and let them in there natural homes where they belong. :'(
fishbear reply :
Heck, turtle soup is gooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!! 
and the 12 gauge that goes with me is for snakes, If I hook a turtle I just cut the line as close to its mouth as I can.....
I kill every snake I see..... man I hate snakes
Lady Bass reply :
QuoteHeck, turtle soup is gooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!and the 12 gauge that goes with me is for snakes, If I hook a turtle I just cut the line as close to its mouth as I can.....
I kill every snake I see..... man I hate snakes
thanks for turning that turtle loose but the snakes do whatever you wish with them..I HATE SNAKES TO.!
Captain Underpants reply :
You know WhiteMike, turtles maybe are cute to you, ( 
?) but they are DEFINITELY NOT endangered (in the least), and DO kill fish, namely baitfish. So, killing the snappers and big ones is a big tip to the fish. Go ahead and yell at me, but it also helps bass get big to throw bitty perch or sunfish into the grass if you catch them. Lowers food competetion considerably.
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
QuoteACTUALLY - It is a myth that turtles damage fish population in ponds, as far as them eating them and what not. They are too slow to catch most fish. Snappers have to sit very still with their tongue wiggling to land a fish, and most other types of turtles eat something else. This info is in Oklahoma Hunters Guide they put out each fall, so I constantly show it or relay it to folks who "turtle hunt" because they think the turtles are messing up their fishing. The turtles are actually harmless. Please don't hurt them, shoot them, kill them, rip the hook out etc. No, I am no tree hugger, but I do love animals, and turtles are at the top of my list. It might be a pain to hook em and get the hook out, but consider it good practice for when you catch a large fish. Besides, thats just a risk you take when you fish. It's not like a turtle intentionally ruins your day, but if you are harming or killing them, you are intentionally ruining theirs! God Bless
Thank you! Finally! An ethical bone in the crowd.
I just noticed on the side of our lake where we put the boat in, a huge dropping of some kind. Was confused as to the size and what may have left it. A week later, after some sun and a brief rain, I pulled up and noticed it was definately snapper poop. The scat was made of of total craw shells. Oranged now by the sun, it was clearly evident.
We have huge snappers in our lake. Some are the size of sewer caps! Just for the record, our lake has what I would evaluate as the best fish population in RI.
DON"T KILL ANIMALS JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF A BALANCED ECOSYSTEM!!!! > > > >
BucketmouthAngler13 reply :
I cant stand people that kill things becuase they "think" they are bad for the inviroment. I dont know of a single living thing that is bad for nature's system.
God made them with all of nature in mind, and every speices benifits the enviroment.
Why kill snakes? they dont eat fish. They eat the eggs of birds that DO eat fish. If you want the fish population to be better, then it makes more sense to leave snakes alone than to kill them.
Why kill the turtles? They clean up the carcusses of dead fish, keeping sickness at bay. If you killed all the vultures, there would be more dead things lying around than living things. The same goes for turtles. Also, turtles eat the sick or dieing fish, keeping the sickness from speading.
I am proud to say i have never, never kept a fish i have cought in my life.
If i catch a turtle, i do the best i can to remove the hook, and back it goes.
If i see a snake. I watch it, and leave it alone.
If i catch a fish, and it is dying, i throw it back in. Some hungery turtle or bass will be thankful i did.
I say, leave the wild things to themselves, and they look after eachother.
Matt
paleo reply :
for those who say turtles dont eat fish you are correct red ear sliders a very common turtle and more often than not are the ones bieng shot and killed they are the best thing for the fish they eat only DEAD OR DYING FISH they are scavengers , the aligater snaping turtle actually fishes for his meal with the tonge as stated by take me fishing 2. So the next time you snipe a turtle in the water are you sure what kind it is and if by some chance you kill the red sliders of f well then you better hope you know wich fish are sick and only catch those because you killed the one thing that will help stop the spread of sickness among the fish . also if the turtles are not considered destructive by the wildlife dept then you need a commercial harvest liscence and shooting is not allowed. And i know our dept does not consider the slider to be destructive but BENIFICIAL
tallydude reply :
QuoteQuoteACTUALLY - It is a myth that turtles damage fish population in ponds, as far as them eating them and what not. They are too slow to catch most fish. Snappers have to sit very still with their tongue wiggling to land a fish, and most other types of turtles eat something else. This info is in Oklahoma Hunters Guide they put out each fall, so I constantly show it or relay it to folks who "turtle hunt" because they think the turtles are messing up their fishing. The turtles are actually harmless. Please don't hurt them, shoot them, kill them, rip the hook out etc. No, I am no tree hugger, but I do love animals, and turtles are at the top of my list. It might be a pain to hook em and get the hook out, but consider it good practice for when you catch a large fish. Besides, thats just a risk you take when you fish. It's not like a turtle intentionally ruins your day, but if you are harming or killing them, you are intentionally ruining theirs! God Bless
Thank you! Finally! An ethical bone in the crowd.
I just noticed on the side of our lake where we put the boat in, a huge dropping of some kind. Was confused as to the size and what may have left it. A week later, after some sun and a brief rain, I pulled up and noticed it was definately snapper poop. The scat was made of of total craw shells. Oranged now by the sun, it was clearly evident.
We have huge snappers in our lake. Some are the size of sewer caps! Just for the record, our lake has what I would evaluate as the best fish population in RI.
DON"T KILL ANIMALS JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF A BALANCED ECOSYSTEM!!!! >
LBH, I couldn't agree with you more. Do you guys really believe that turtles have that much of an adverse effect on the fish population? If so, I'm surprised you're not taking shotguns to the eagle and osprey population as well. I mean, they eat fish too. Why not go ahead and get rid of them?
A balanced ecosysytem is a good ecosystem.
Captain Underpants reply :
QuoteWhy kill snakes? they dont eat fish. They eat the eggs of birds that DO eat fish. If you want the fish population to be better, then it makes more sense to leave snakes alone than to kill them.
Why kill the turtles? They clean up the carcusses of dead fish, keeping sickness at bay. If you killed all the vultures, there would be more dead things lying around than living things. The same goes for turtles. Also, turtles eat the sick or dieing fish, keeping the sickness from speading.
I am proud to say i have never, never kept a fish i have cought in my life.
If i catch a turtle, i do the best i can to remove the hook, and back it goes.
If i see a snake. I watch it, and leave it alone.
If i catch a fish, and it is dying, i throw it back in. Some hungery turtle or bass will be thankful i did.
I say, leave the wild things to themselves, and they look after eachother.
Matt
Okay, 1: Ever had a stringer full of fish and seen a snake swimming up to them? Enough said 2: Snakes eat eggs alright. FISH EGGS! -And don't say "why not remove all the crawfish, they eat eggs," because you sure can't use a snake for bait. 3: If I catch a fish between 3-5 lbs, I'll eat it. Jeez, don't tell me you never eat tuna! God gave them to us for food (and sport). Plus, one hungry stomach is thankful I do. Back to turtles, they are NOT endangered, saying you can't kill them is like saying you can't hunt deer or kill bugs that kill trees or mice that make holes in your wall. 4: Considering the tone and nature of some replies, I see that some of you must be affiliated with Greenpeace. I think I'm gonna be sick.
BucketmouthAngler13 reply :
QuoteQuoteWhy kill snakes? they dont eat fish. They eat the eggs of birds that DO eat fish. If you want the fish population to be better, then it makes more sense to leave snakes alone than to kill them.
Why kill the turtles? They clean up the carcusses of dead fish, keeping sickness at bay. If you killed all the vultures, there would be more dead things lying around than living things. The same goes for turtles. Also, turtles eat the sick or dieing fish, keeping the sickness from speading.
I am proud to say i have never, never kept a fish i have cought in my life.
If i catch a turtle, i do the best i can to remove the hook, and back it goes.
If i see a snake. I watch it, and leave it alone.
If i catch a fish, and it is dying, i throw it back in. Some hungery turtle or bass will be thankful i did.
I say, leave the wild things to themselves, and they look after eachother.
Matt
Okay, 1: Ever had a stringer full of fish and seen a snake swimming up to them? Enough said 2: Snakes eat eggs alright. FISH EGGS! -And don't say "why not remove all the crawfish, they eat eggs," because you sure can't use a snake for bait. 3: If I catch a fish between 3-5 lbs, I'll eat it. Jeez, don't tell me you never eat tuna! God gave them to us for food (and sport). Plus, one hungry stomach is thankful I do. Back to turtles, they are NOT endangered, saying you can't kill them is like saying you can't hunt deer or kill bugs that kill trees or mice that make holes in your wall. 4: Considering the tone and nature of some replies, I see that some of you must be affiliated with Greenpeace. I think I'm gonna be sick.
1. yes, snakes eat dead fish. that is just another reason to not kill them. And yes, you could use snakes as bait, as large bass eat young snakes.
2: Consider a pond campaired to the ocean. Taking 20 bass out of a pond could ruin it. Taking 100 tunas out of the ocean wouldn't even dent the population.
Yes i eat tuna. No, i dont eat bass. (usualy, i have had it before)
3: Turtles are NOT indangered, atleast not the ones around here. I never said the where. I'm saying you SHOULDNT kill them, becuase there is no good reason to, and becuase they are a major part of the enviroment.
4: In NJ, there are NO natural predators to deer. There for, in order to upkeep the enviroment, there has to be UNNATURAL deaths of deer, caused by humans. If there wasn't 50,000 deer killed a year in NJ, then there would be a extra 1,000,000 deer every 5 years. In ten years it would be One Million by the fith power!
5: Yes you should kill trees, for farmland to feed humans/animals. No, you shouldn't kill trees in large portions.
My point is, you CAN kill turtles, fish, deer, bugs, mice and any living thing.
But, you SHOULD'T do it more than you should!
bass eat: fish, young snakes, young turtles, crawfish
Snakes eat: fish and bass eggs. and young birds, wich protects bass
turtles eat: sick bass and sick fish, wich protects ather bass and fish.
crawfish eat: bass and fish eggs
Fish eat: Waste from all above speices
Take out ONE of these speicies, and the whole thing callopases.
If bass eat more crawfish, then there will be more turtles to eat sick fish.
If bass eat more turtles, then there are more crawfish to eat bass eggs
You see, they all keep eachother in ballance.
If there is a pond with 3 turtles, 40 bass, 200 fish, and 5 snakes, you shouldn't kill ANY of them. Killing one turtle means a 33% decress in that speices.
If there is a ocean with 1,000,000 tuna, then killing 200 of these will not harm the tuna, and feed thousands of humans.
God gave them all for all themselves food, including us. Killing too much of one thing is wrong.
If there is too much of one thing, say deer, and there is nothing to keep it in ballance, then humans should kill more deer.
However, bass, snakes, turtles and fish all keep eachother in ballence, meaning there is no need to kill them.
Bottem line:
If there is a pond with 5 turtles, it is WRONG to kill them.
If there is a lake with 1,000 turtles, then it ISNT wrong to kill SOME.
If there is a ocean with 10,000,000 turtles, then it isnt wrong to kill ALOT, as long as the population doesn't drasticly decress.
Matt
Captain Underpants reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy kill snakes? they dont eat fish.But, you SHOULD'T do it more than you should!
bass eat: fish, young snakes, young turtles, crawfish
Snakes eat: fish and bass eggs. and young birds, wich protects bass
turtles eat: sick bass and sick fish, wich protects ather bass and fish.
crawfish eat: bass and fish eggs
Fish eat: Waste from all above speices
Take out ONE of these speicies, and the whole thing callopases.
If bass eat more crawfish, then there will be more turtles to eat sick fish.
If bass eat more turtles, then there are more crawfish to eat bass eggs
You see, they all keep eachother in ballance.
If there is a pond with 3 turtles, 40 bass, 200 fish, and 5 snakes, you shouldn't kill ANY of them. Killing one turtle means a 33% decress in that speices.
If there is a ocean with 1,000,000 tuna, then killing 200 of these will not harm the tuna, and feed thousands of humans.
God gave them all for all themselves food, including us. Killing too much of one thing is wrong.
If there is too much of one thing, say deer, and there is nothing to keep it in ballance, then humans should kill more deer.
However, bass, snakes, turtles and fish all keep eachother in ballence, meaning there is no need to kill them.
Bottem line:
If there is a pond with 5 turtles, it is WRONG to kill them.
If there is a lake with 1,000 turtles, then it ISNT wrong to kill SOME.
If there is a ocean with 10,000,000 turtles, then it isnt wrong to kill ALOT, as long as the population doesn't drasticly decress.
Matt
First you say snakes don't eat fish, then you say they do. :-? :-? :-? :-? :-? I'll fix that for you: they do.
No matter how much you all scream, I hold to the facts that sankes eat live fish, turtles eat live fish, I trap turtles, then I shoot them. I eat bass. I eat crappie. I eat fish. I love to catch and eat I like to fish.
Now I know Kiethscatch and WhiteMike will be all over my back for saying this, but I find it a sport to shoot my hard backed friends through the head as they run from my ever-faithful 22. Plus, these posts are so full of Greenpeace I don't want to even go on. Pass the Pepto please.
BucketmouthAngler13 reply :
Snakes are not quick enough in the water to catch most fish, exept for the sick or dying ones. And even if they DID catch fish and eat them, SO DO YOU.
Saying you should kill animals becuase they kill fish, then you go ahead and kill fish, IMHO, is being a hyprocite.
Listen, snakes eat fish, fish eat snakes. Turtles eat fish, fish eat turtles. YOU eat fish, and kill turtles and snakes, and they get nothing back! This can not only damage and slow down the ecosystem, it can ruin it!
dont get me wrong, it isnt WRONG to kill fish, turtles or snakes. It IS wrong, however to do this when it can do damage.
If YOU dont need to kill any animals, then dont do it! Diferent species will kill eachother, and they dont need your help!
I hunt deer, i hunt boar, i hunt racoon. These species need to be hunted, due to over population. This is becuase their natural preditors are few and far between.
However, fish, turtles, and snakes all prey on eachother, so they keep eachother in ballance. In small bodies of water, where there are low numbers of these speices, is is wrong and bad for the ecosystem to kill them. However, in very large bodies of water, such as the ocean, Kill some fish (tuna) wont hurt their population, and it will help feed hundreds of humans.
Killing 5 pond bass will hurt the population and will only feed a few people. Why do it when you can eat other fish, such as tuna, and do no harm on the enviroment?
Matt
Hula Popper reply :
QuoteSnakes are not quick enough in the water to catch most fish, exept for the sick or dying ones. And even if they DID catch fish and eat them, SO DO YOU.Saying you should kill animals becuase they kill fish, then you go ahead and kill fish, IMHO, is being a hyprocite.
Listen, snakes eat fish, fish eat snakes. Turtles eat fish, fish eat turtles. YOU eat fish, and kill turtles and snakes, and they get nothing back! This can not only damage and slow down the ecosystem, it can ruin it!
dont get me wrong, it isnt WRONG to kill fish, turtles or snakes. It IS wrong, however to do this when it can do damage.
If YOU dont need to kill any animals, then dont do it! Diferent species will kill eachother, and they dont need your help!
Matt
I am not going to take sides here, but I do know that Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Tom Bass reply :
Well, I don't know much about ecosystems but I will say this; an area that I have been shore fishing in Lake Norman for going on two years has had a serious drop off in fish catches in the past few months. At the start of the drop off there was a steep incline in turtle activity. Last year the bream were plentiful, the bass that ate bream were plentiful. The catfish that ate bream were plentiful. Now there are turtles and the occasional fish. Coincidence? I don't think so!
Captain Underpants reply :
QuoteI am not going to take sides here, but I do know that Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Preach it brother! to follow up on that-Genesis 9:2
"The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered.
9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything."
Tom Bass reply :
Amen!.....Let's Eat! ;D
BucketmouthAngler13 reply :
Ok, if you want to go into using scripture. 
I'm not sure what the refrence is, but i know that it says "Be good stewarts of your earthy posessions."
God gave man the right to govern over the fish. The includes for them to know when to kill and when to not kill.
"There is a time for death, and a time for life"
If there are 20 bass in a pond, let that grow into 50 bass.
If there is 2 turtles, let that grow into 5 turtles.
Once the pond gets to its limit, then they will ballence eachother off.
Captain Underpants reply :
Too bad systematic theology doesn't cover this! ;D ;D ;D we need a "sportsman's creed" ;D ;D ;D
BassKing813 reply :
I absolutely HATE turtles. Every time I catch one I have to cut my line.
tallydude reply :
QuoteQuoteI am not going to take sides here, but I do know that Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Preach it brother!
"The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered.
9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything."
Interesting. I didn't know that the Jews before the common era (B.C.E.) were masters in North American fisheries and wildlife management.
fourbizz reply :
Quote;DQuoteQuoteI am not going to take sides here, but I do know that Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."
Preach it brother!
"The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered.
9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything."
Interesting. I didn't know that the Jews before the common era (B.C.E.) were masters in North American fisheries and wildlife management.
Funny!
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
no scripture please.
Greenpeace? No,...College educated? Yes
If you want to hunt or fish a meal, that's your right. We are talking about people who kill snakes, turtles,etc because they are either afraid of them or because they claim they hurt the fish ratio in a given body of water.
Both reason don't fly with me. If you fit in either of the above categories, in my book you need to:
A. Be a man, it's a snake and it's not after you
or
B. Buy yourself an education before spurting nonsense.
or
BOTH
Lastly, this is a youth friendly forum. We don't encourage acts of violence on innocent animals. Call it greenpeace, call me whatever you want, just be sure to include the word educated . We are here to show kids the right way to view things, to respect things,...We are here to lead by example. Baitmonkey12, you're a scary example but one we need nontheless to prove our point. Your posts on this topic do it for us.
Ignorance suks.
( we sit and wonder how the world became a place where groups of kids beat up homeless people for fun. Still mystified? Ignorance starts at home.)
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
QuoteNow I know Kiethscatch and WhiteMike will be all over my back for saying this, but I find it a sport to shoot my hard backed friends through the head as they run from my ever-faithful 22.
Sport? Are you that challenged? If you are having trouble, maybe start with somthing sleeping and move up to somthing as quick and wiley as a turtle.
tallydude reply :
QuoteQuoteNow I know Kiethscatch and WhiteMike will be all over my back for saying this, but I find it a sport to shoot my hard backed friends through the head as they run from my ever-faithful 22.
Sport? Are you that challenged? If you are having trouble, maybe start with somthing sleeping and move up to somthing as quick and wiley as a turtle.
Thank you, LBH, for bringing some perspective to all this nonsense. How is that sporting? Are you guys even eating the turtles you kill? For a website and a sport that pledges itself to wildlife conservation, I'm seeing alot of stupid posts on this topic.
Grey Wolf reply :
Killing just to kill is totally unacceptable !
RoLo reply :
QuoteNow I know Kiethscatch and WhiteMike will be all over my back for saying this, but I find it a sport to shoot my hard backed friends through the head as they run from my ever-faithful 22.
When you spout gibberish like that, your list of opponents is in the millions, not two people.
In the first place, how does a 22 caliber rifle end-up in such careless hands?
Roger
fishbear reply :
Maybe I am one of those people who needs to grow some, in LBH's words.
I however, do have a healthy fear of snakes. I only kill poisonous ones, copperheads, watermoccasins, rattlesnakes, etc..... and only if I can not walk away from them or if the snake is in my yard. My neighbor killed a copperhead that was 3 ft. long and big around as my wrist. That snake was under his porch, and the gentleman, has 6 little grand babies running around constantly, playing...
If I am in a boat, I move away from snakes I see in the water, on land it is a little more difficult, since you are usually right on top of them before you know they are there....
I am not pro killing anything to just kill it.... I was raised better than that.. I do however, understand fear of snakes, or heights, or whatever, and reacting the way people do.
Yea, maybe I do need to grow some, but at 42 yrs. of age, I do not think my fear of snakes is going to go away.... I would rather face a Grizzly Bear in the wild than a snake anywhere.....
RoLo reply :
QuoteI however, do have a healthy fear of snakes.
How often have you read where someone was killed by a snake?
How often have you read where someone was killed by another person?
If it were justifiable to murder that which we fear, the human population in the United States might be cut in half.
Roger
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
QuoteMaybe I am one of those people who needs to grow some, in LBH's words.I however, do have a healthy fear of snakes. I only kill poisonous ones, copperheads, watermoccasins, rattlesnakes, etc..... and only if I can not walk away from them or if the snake is in my yard. My neighbor killed a copperhead that was 3 ft. long and big around as my wrist. That snake was under his porch, and the gentleman, has 6 little grand babies running around constantly, playing...
If I am in a boat, I move away from snakes I see in the water, on land it is a little more difficult, since you are usually right on top of them before you know they are there....
I am not pro killing anything to just kill it.... I was raised better than that.. I do however, understand fear of snakes, or heights, or whatever, and reacting the way people do.
Yea, maybe I do need to grow some, but at 42 yrs. of age, I do not think my fear of snakes is going to go away.... I would rather face a Grizzly Bear in the wild than a snake anywhere.....
Not at all fishbear, clarification makes a huge difference. I certainly wouldn't class you in the genre I was speaking about.
Common sense would prevail here and tell us, however, that there is probably much less chance of getting bit avoiding the snake than attempting to kill it.
Gatorbassman reply :
One day when I was a young boy I got the bright idea that I was going to shoot a little bird with my BB Gun. Little did I know my mom was watching me. She taught me a few lessons that day. I learned how to pluck a bird and how do cook it. That was the worst thing I had ever eaten.
You shouldn't kill anything that you don't intend to eat.
Fishbear gave some great advise on how to handle the situation on snakes and turtle soup is great.
fishbear reply :
LBH,
Thank you for saying what you have. Yes, trying to kill a snake is infinately more dangerouse than avoiding them...... IF, I have to kill a snake it is done with a shotgun or such from a distance of at least 15 ft away. Then it is use a shovel to pick it up and bury it, and deep... Most people are bitten by snakes due to them messing with them in the first place, or not paying attention when they are hiking, in snake country...
Now on the other hand, I do have relatives in the Church of Snakes(what i call it),,, :-/ :-/ :-/
and they play with the darned things during services,,,, . Lost a second cousin to a cotton mouth, he was in the swimming hole by his house, and got bit and never made it out of the water.
Now, can we drop all this and go fishing??????????????????
I hate talking about snakes almost as much as I hate dealing with them in person,,,,,,,,,, there was a reason I lived in the western half of Washington state (until love drug me away) NO POISONOUS SNAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gatorbassman reply :
Does anyone know where I can get a realistic looking rubber snake for my next trip with fishbear?
fishbear reply :
UMMMMMMMMMMMMM Fluke?????
thats all I have to say on that idea.....
Captain Underpants reply :
Quoteno scripture please.Lastly, this is a youth friendly forum. We don't encourage acts of violence on innocent animals. Call it greenpeace, call me whatever you want, just be sure to include the word educated . We are here to show kids the right way to view things, to respect things,...We are here to lead by example. Baitmonkey12, you're a scary example but one we need nontheless to prove our point. Your posts on this topic do it for us.
Ignorance suks.
( we sit and wonder how the world became a place where groups of kids beat up homeless people for fun. Still mystified? Ignorance starts at home.)
Now I'm wondering how we got to calling people ignorant. ;D
Seriously, I am not sure what to say now as I am pretty outnumbered :-/. My dad is incredibly "educated", and he and I have a great time taking care of our ponds. We built a turtle trap to help provide more minnows for our bass (Who says snappers don't eat fish?). If you challenge that, I'd love to get him on to clarify things for you.
Oh, and LBH, you got a problem with scripture? :-?
P.S. If this is too heated for you mods, let me know, and I'll just drop this thread alltogether.
tallydude reply :
Baitmonkey, your property is yours to do with what you please. However, if you're killing any animal with some reckless sense of personal fishery management, I think you're wrong to do so. If you're relocating the animals or eating them, that's another story altogether.
Lastly, I don't have a problem with the use of scripture. What I have a problem with is people using it to justify their own agendas.
paleo reply :
hey baitmonkey12 you are right about snappers they do eat fish. but more often than not it isnt the snappers that is bieng killed ,red ear sliders are the innocent bystanders and i dont know anyone who can tell at 20 to however many feet out in the water what kind of turtle is bieng shot. and when these turtles are bieng shot i hope you are using steel shot . if a rifle is in use well that is just [uneducated] because of the ricochet, the cage is the best way to get rid of unwanted snappers
Captain Underpants reply :
QuoteNow I know Kiethscatch and WhiteMike will be all over my back for saying this, but I find it a sport to shoot my hard backed friends through the head as they run from my ever-faithful 22.
Comment withdrawn.
Hopefully, this is my last post on this subject. I am sorry if I offended some of my fellow members with the comment in quotes. I was in jest. We work tirelessly to protect and foster a great environment for fishing and outdoor sports. I am not afraid of turtles nor do I need to "grow a pair". Obscene comments do not help this or any discussion. The snappers we euthanize do eat fish. My sister keeps the red eared sliders as pets then lets them go back into the wild after a while. I fully understand the arguments of the other posts but I simply disagree. One last thing, the only ignorant thing I have read in this thread is calling someone ignorant. Calling names and insulting other members is not fit for this forum.
RoLo reply :
QuoteQuote from baitmonkey12 on Oct 20th, 2006, 8:34pm:Now I know Kiethscatch and WhiteMike will be all over my back for saying this, but I find it a sport to shoot my hard backed friends through the head as they run from my ever-faithful 22.
Comment withdrawn.
Hopefully, this is my last post on this subject. I am sorry if I offended some of my fellow members with the comment in quotes. I was in jest. We work tirelessly to protect and foster a great environment for fishing and outdoor sports.
Attaboy Baitmonkey, now that's the spirit.
I was confident that your heart wasn't in that statement, but it's nice to hear it from you
Roger
Troutfisher reply :
QuoteAttaboy Baitmonkey, now that's the spirit.I was confident that your heart wasn't in that statement, but it's nice to hear it from you
I am also glad to hear that...I don't kill turtles unless instructed to do so. Even then, I have a hard time doing it. For example, I used to fish at a pond and the owner instructed me to kill the snapping turtles because the snappers were killing the baby ducks? Anyway, I reluctantly agreed to, and I caught two of them within a two week period while fishing for bass on live nightcrawlers. Fortunately for the turtles, I had no net of any size to get them out of the water, and I sure as heck ain't picking them up when there is a two foot area between the bank and the water.
Now snakes, that's a different story. Garter snakes and green snakes, and other non-poisonous snakes are free to roam around my house. Copperheads and rattlers? They better keep their distance is all I can say....
BD reply :
"Turtles" are not a nuisance, it's the snapping turtles that are.
Others have also pointed out no need to purposely kill the ones you see, those aren't snapping turtles.
Yes S.T.'s eat fish, so do bass and we all feel pretty strong about those who kill bass.....
I also understand sometimes you catch S.T's, that's a different story when trying to remove a hook, most times you can't. Killing to kill is not right imho.
fishingrulz reply :
Baitmonkey12...lets not be ridiculous here. The turtles aren't going to massacre the fish population in a nano second. They don't go around killing fish just because they can. Its not like they are successful everytime they try to kill a fish. They miss sometimes to. They get one shot at it and if they don't get it they gotta regroup all over again. Would the ecosystem work if 1 animal just went on massive killing sprees annihilating anything it could eat? If the turtles were as bad as you make it sound then Bass Fishing wouldn't exsist.
fishingrulz reply :
QuoteMaybe I am one of those people who needs to grow some, in LBH's words.I however, do have a healthy fear of snakes. I only kill poisonous ones, copperheads, watermoccasins, rattlesnakes, etc..... and only if I can not walk away from them or if the snake is in my yard. My neighbor killed a copperhead that was 3 ft. long and big around as my wrist. That snake was under his porch, and the gentleman, has 6 little grand babies running around constantly, playing...
If I am in a boat, I move away from snakes I see in the water, on land it is a little more difficult, since you are usually right on top of them before you know they are there....
I am not pro killing anything to just kill it.... I was raised better than that.. I do however, understand fear of snakes, or heights, or whatever, and reacting the way people do.
Yea, maybe I do need to grow some, but at 42 yrs. of age, I do not think my fear of snakes is going to go away.... I would rather face a Grizzly Bear in the wild than a snake anywhere.....
I understand what you are saying...There is a difference between taking one snake for protection and walking in the woods with gun and just blasting every snake you see just beacause you can. Thats going out of your way to kill something.
lunchbox508 reply :
I also carry a 12g for snake protection and that is because i live in texas and i live on a farm. when i fish the tanks aroun dusk the rattle snakes come out aand so do water moccasins i have never shot one but i have come close and thats because it curled up and was lookin at my bird dog. and i have only shot one turtle and got I disagree beat by my dad when i was like 13.
Evan Pease reply :
Im cursed by turtles, Ive caught about 6 alltogether on bass jigs, crappie grubs, lisards, and I landed one about 3 feet wide with 4lb test bream fishing with worm chunks.
Maxximus Redneckus reply :
Im no tree hugger either but turtles are beneficial to our water ways .Think of turtles as vultures they eat a lot of stuff that dies and it could be dieseased.Im no boloigist either but we all know each animal has its place (not CHIGGERS AND TICKS ) If we use the assumption turtles are hurting the fish population does that mean we shoot every BALD eagle we see with a 2 lb bass hanging from its feet no.Like i say im no tree hugger they to me are considered terrorist .And us killing animals that have been in a lake long before we fished it is not natural a pond or lake or river has a cycle of life and if one is removed u might not see a diff in your lifetime but 30 yrs from now your kids or grand kids will not be able to appriciate that 30 lb snapper LMAO
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