<p> what is your favorite rough fish? Rough fish are any fish that would fall into the non game or "trash fish" categories. </p> <p> my personal favorite would have to be the pike minnow, a giant predatory carp-like fish, native to most north western states but rather pesky when in a reservoir or lake. There's a reward for them in a few reservoirs where their numbers have multiplied in changing conditions. </p>
Green Sunfish are fun as hell to catch even though they can be a nuisance in the majority of ponds I fish in.
Haven't caught a Snakehead or Bowfin yet and would suspect those fish will jump to the top of my list.
Some folks consider catfish a trash fish and they would certainly be my favorite if that's the case.
Other than them, I enjoy catching drum and gar both. Drum are good fighters and pretty easy to site fish. Gar pull hard and can be acrobatic at times. Carp are a blast to catch but there's too much waiting involved for me to be willing to really target them often.
For me it is chain pickerel. They are often disliked by bass anglers, but i find them to be fun to catch. Especially the larger ones. Last week I caught my personal best it was 30" and thick. The down side is they can break you off, or ruin a lure.
That's a tough question! Probably just anything I can catch sight fishing or something that is aggressive.
This is an interesting thread. I honestly don't know what my answer is because I don't care to catch "rough fish"
Any fish that gives a good fight for its size.
once I get my laptop from work I will post some photos of my PB pikeminnow, my phone wont up load them for some reason
Come to my June tadpole fry. You'll never forget it.
My first thought was BIG carp. Then I started reading the posts and remembered how much fun a big gar was, and how it would pull the rod out of your hands. The I remembered the bowfin who twisted my spinnerbait into knots, rendering it unusable. Pound for pound I would have to say bowfin, but any fish caught with artificials ia a good fish in my book. Interesting question
here's three pikeminnow (on a swimbait and a streamer) and one chunky sucker. the pike minnow, like their name implies, are basically giant carp with the feeding habits of pike.
reportedly some pikeminnow can get as large as six feet!
I've never seen a pike minnow before.
They are good fighters in their own way. They slam inline spinners all day long, makes for fun when I have the wife and kid with me.
On 9/7/2016 at 11:36 AM, seyone said:I've never seen a pike minnow before.
they're mostly in the northwestern part of the country. Montana, Washington, Oregon, etc. If you ever get a chance to fish for them they are a bucket load of fun on light tackle (light to medium weight rods)
On 9/7/2016 at 11:48 AM, dwh4784 said:They are good fighters in their own way. They slam inline spinners all day long, makes for fun when I have the wife and kid with me.
do you catch them in a lake or a river system?
Most of the time I catch them in the upper portion of dammed up rivers/reservoirs. Just when the current starts to slow.
I'm totally into tight lines... If it tugs, I'm happy to catch it.
Drum are fun, when you're not in a tournament and think you've hooked the next record smallmouth, lmao.
The bowfin I caught bit hard and fought hard. I was glad it shook off at the boatside, though.
On 9/6/2016 at 8:35 AM, gimruis said:This is an interesting thread. I honestly don't know what my answer is because I don't care to catch "rough fish"
#DrumLivesMatter
hahaha
Carp!
On 9/7/2016 at 12:01 PM, dwh4784 said:Most of the time I catch them in the upper portion of dammed up rivers/reservoirs. Just when the current starts to slow.
I find that in a reservoir or lake system the pikeminnow tend to be smaller, yet more voracious, traveling the lake like little pescavorous shad. bass love'm and the gan craft jointed claw in ja ayu does a spectacular job of imitating them
Drum are always a fun surprise but I'd have to say carp. There's been a few days when I couldn't buy a bite from a bass and a dough ball made from oatmeal I keep in a ziplock saved the day. People may not like them but carp sure know how to put up a fight
Carp on a bass set up.?
I caught this one on senko with calcatta 50 with 4lbs Izor line. It was fun take maybe 10 mins. The reel fight this guy pretty good and he almost spool me. Lucky we were in open water so I can play with him.
After this guy me and my friend went crazy about carp fishing for a few months. Lol
Catfish and carp, to me, are by far the most fun when you just want a good fight. Coincidentally, they're also relatively easy to fish for, exciting for kids/friends who don't fish often, and you can relax with a beverage while waiting for your next strike. They make for great campsite fishing.
I've got a thing for drum. They're a bit slimy, but great fun to catch. Never disappointed when one comes calling.
I just caught my PB drum this summer on a BPS Speed Shad. Drum were about all I could catch on it, big ones, and they were hammering it and pulling hard.
BOWFIN!
My favorite trash fish to catch is green or brown, and will hit many lures of many sizes. They don't get giant, but they are a blast to fish for, and once you think you have them figured out, they decide they don't like your lure. They are voracious predators, yet they are picky eaters all the same. Yeah I'm talking about bass.
Talk to most guys around here and you might as well be fishing for carp. I call it the "salmon mentality" that is, that salmon are superior to all fish in the world and if your not fishing to fill the freezer than you shouldn't be out there. It just leaves more for me though! I enjoy seeing bass fishing getting more popular here though, along with other warm water species. It means more caring anglers who want conservation of all the fisheries, not just one.
Carp are fun too. They are fun to shoot, and fun to catch. I'm weird about it though, I put them in my garden when I shoot them, but release them when on rod and reel. Lures are fun. If you want practice with hair jigs, go find some carp! (Red marabou) They fight great!
I've spent a lot of time targeting carp .I have come up with my own " Bolt " rig ,make different dough balls, set the rods in holders , light a cigar , pop open a beer and wait for the reel to start screaming .
You want a true challenge? Try sight fishing for carp. With a fly rod. I requires the right conditions. Clear water, and little or no wind. Then it takes stealth, finesse and real casting skill.
I have yet to try with my fly rod, but I do all my hair jigging by sight. Carp get a truly bad reputation, but honestly they are waryer, and spookier than bass. I spent about 6 months trying to figure out some canal carp, before I started to catch them consistently. What kind of flies should I use? I might try tying up something marabou like.
up in montana there are just as many carp fly fishermen as there are bass fishermen. my personal fave setup is a sucker spawn fly tied behind a golden agotcha
Carp are fun to catch on light tackle , also cat fish especially big blues and flat heads on bass tackle. But I would have to say my favorite is the snakehead. They're fun because they attack top waters and they pull like crazy when they get big. On August 21 I was at the Potomac and caught a snake head that weighted over 13lbs while flipping grass with a pit boss
Buffalo...
I would love to fish for snakehaed again. I used to fish them in Thailand quit a bit.
If you see a group of snakehead fry, just use any topwater especially those buzzbait, either the mom or dad would hit your topwater like no tomorrow.
On 9/22/2016 at 10:16 PM, Team9nine said:Buffalo...
Nice buffalo! I don't suppose there's any in HL, is there?
I remember when I was a YOUNG man in the mountains, fishing with a black hula popper. The cicadas were EVERYWHERE and carp were feeding on them. Carp on topwater are a whole lot different than carp caught on dough balls.
On 9/23/2016 at 5:20 AM, IndianaFinesse said:Nice buffalo! I don't suppose there's any in HL, is there?
Never heard of one being caught here. They are actually not overly common on most waters. We do have some big carp though.
On 9/23/2016 at 8:47 AM, Team9nine said:Never heard of one being caught here. They are actually not overly common on most waters. We do have some big carp though.
Bummer, they have always looked like hard fighters. And it sure does have big carp, I caught a 38 pound common carp last summer on the ned rig. I'll try to remember to bring the photo of it and the big bass I caught last spring for the next time I see you out.
Snakehead, definitely.
Matter of fact, it's the only thing I fish for. I'll reel in the occasional largemouth bass or chain pickerel, but I release those.
The thing about snakehead, the primary reason I fish for it, is that it is delicious. I'd rather have it than rockfish, salmon, flounder, tilapia, whatever. Firm white meat with no fishy taste. Beats cod or haddock hands down for fish n chips. The thing looks like a monster, but oh, is it tasty. And since it is so large, it is easy to make fillets. (As a matter of fact, being tasty is the reason it ended up as an invasive species here in the USA: people took live snakeheads from Asian groceries and released them into local waters.)
Also, it's an exciting fish to catch. I love the way it assassinates a topwater frog. It waits in ambush for the lure to go by, then savagely attacks it. Thing looks like a torpedo slicing through the water.
On 10/2/2016 at 8:24 AM, Jon P. said:
here are some snakehead-specific lures that also work spectacularly for bass. I fished them almost exclusively this summer for bass and I'm taking them down south this winter. they're a little bit of buzzbait, little bit of popper, and a whole lot of fun! (also they wont get chewed up over time)
Jon, those buzz baitis look pretty good for snakehead. I have been searching for quite awhile in thailand. It just a balsa wood equit with buzz blade in the front. It can float when stop but makeing a lot of noise when retrieve.
on the other hand, I already have a plan to DIY my own buzzbait just like that.
Oh lord -- talk about a can of worms! I love catching carp on 4lb set ups. Amazing fight, and resilient fish. So that is my big, freshwater junker. I wish we had those pike minnow carp locally, they would be a ball!
Small freshwater junk fish is the Green Hybrid sunfish, which are annoying at times, but if you just want to catch "fish" they can be a ball.
But, my favorite - is an annoying, pesky, toothy abomination in salt water. The lizard fish. Find a nice flat, grab your light gear and bunch of 2" grubs and you can catch these crazy things like mad. I don't know why I like them so much, they don't fight that well - are ugly as sin, and take no real strategy to catch. Maybe that's why I like em, lol. Kind of like the bluegills of the sea. To be fair, my first experience with them was with a good friend and we had a ball with them, so I'm certainly jaded. In fact, before my wedding - we went fishing. And we went just to catch a bunch of those little guys, so I guess they have a special place with me.
On 10/13/2016 at 4:17 AM, Bassun said:
Small freshwater junk fish is the Green Hybrid sunfish, which are annoying at times, but if you just want to catch "fish" they can be a ball.
Yep, they are so aggressively stupid that they will literally eat anything. I've caught them on bare hooks, twelve inch worms, big bulky jigs, frogs, crankbaits, etc. I can not think of a single lure that I haven't caught a green sunfish on. They seem to really love the ned rig, I always catch at least a few on it.
I really wish I had a place to fish for snakeheads. They're definitely on my bucket list.
On 10/16/2016 at 11:19 AM, MBB Nate said:I really wish I had a place to fish for snakeheads. They're definitely on my bucket list.
I've only fished for them once in a little airport ditch while waiting for a flight in florida, absolutely crazy fish. right now they are in about the same place in north American game fishing as our largemouth bass was in the early 1900's. few anglers fish for them exclusively but they are growing in popularity. if they weren't so small I would value them over the largemouth.
On 10/18/2016 at 11:31 PM, Jon P. said:I've only fished for them once in a little airport ditch while waiting for a flight in florida, absolutely crazy fish. right now they are in about the same place in north American game fishing as our largemouth bass was in the early 1900's. few anglers fish for them exclusively but they are growing in popularity. if they weren't so small I would value them over the largemouth.
Northern snakeheads do get bigger than bass.
I wonder what the population of them is like, especially since you are required to cull them if you catch them. I know the media makes them out to be monsters but I'm curious as to exactly what kind of impact they have on native gamefish.
On 9/5/2016 at 6:24 AM, Penguino said:Green Sunfish are fun as hell to catch even though they can be a nuisance in the majority of ponds I fish in.
Haven't caught a Snakehead or Bowfin yet and would suspect those fish will jump to the top of my list.
Snakehead are incredibly fun. I haven't caught a bowfin yet, but I'm sure it's a similar experience, and if you are set up for bass you don't have to get anything else.
Aside from snakehead, which are my favorite non-bass/trout fish, I'll catch just about anything. Sometimes I really like targeting chain pickerel in the ponds around me with my fly rod because they tend to be incredibly aggressive and put up a great fight. Sometimes I'll fly fish for shellcrackers as well which are really fun to catch.
On 9/7/2016 at 11:10 PM, J Francho said:Drum are fun, when you're not in a tournament and think you've hooked the next record smallmouth, lmao.
Sheephead... by a large margin. Buddy whacked this one in the St Lawrence last month.
I have had a bit of fun on Erie with a few large drum while smallmouth fishing, and I have never been displeased to catch the several 20-35+ lb carp I have hooked into with bass tackle over the years on my home lake. Anytime I am not tournament fishing, anything I catch outside of the target species, is just a bonus and is never met with profanity...............unless it's a pike that has swiped a hot lure that I am running low on. About the only "rough fish" I don't like catching are bullheads. Flip into a grass mat or hole, get a good thump, set the hook, and the barrel rolling begins, and you just know in about 15 seconds your going to have to deal with one of those miserable little jerks who can clamp down on your thumb tighter than a pair of vise grips, and have pole barn spikes ready to impale you if you blink wrong.
A few weeks ago while frogging I hooked a giant snapping turtle, and a bullfrog about 10 mins apart, I wisely played the turtle boat side and cut the line, donating my frog to him so as to keep as much braided line out of the lake as possible............and keep my fingers in the process. I landed the frog, which was huge and MAD, got the crap kicked out of me, and got bullfrog stank all over my hands and shirt, but got my frog back and kermit swam off in the end. I had enough of this, and went looking for smallmouth the rest of the evening LOL.
On 10/23/2016 at 11:16 AM, ww2farmer said:I have had a bit of fun on Erie with a few large drum while smallmouth fishing, and I have never been displeased to catch the several 20-35+ lb carp I have hooked into with bass tackle over the years on my home lake. Anytime I am not tournament fishing, anything I catch outside of the target species, is just a bonus and is never met with profanity...............unless it's a pike that has swiped a hot lure that I am running low on. About the only "rough fish" I don't like catching are bullheads. Flip into a grass mat or hole, get a good thump, set the hook, and the barrel rolling begins, and you just know in about 15 seconds your going to have to deal with one of those miserable little jerks who can clamp down on your thumb tighter than a pair of vise grips, and have pole barn spikes ready to impale you if you blink wrong.
A few weeks ago while frogging I hooked a giant snapping turtle, and a bullfrog about 10 mins apart, I wisely played the turtle boat side and cut the line, donating my frog to him so as to keep as much braided line out of the lake as possible............and keep my fingers in the process. I landed the frog, which was huge and MAD, got the crap kicked out of me, and got bullfrog stank all over my hands and shirt, but got my frog back and kermit swam off in the end. I had enough of this, and went looking for smallmouth the rest of the evening LOL.
at my grandpas old house we used to catch bullheads that weighed up to a pound and a half with freakish baseball stomachs, few things taste better but they are a pain to deal with. i still have a scar on my thumb from being impaled by one when I was six.
On 10/26/2016 at 3:01 AM, Jon P. said:at my grandpas old house we used to catch bullheads that weighed up to a pound and a half with freakish baseball stomachs, few things taste better but they are a pain to deal with. i still have a scar on my thumb from being impaled by one when I was six.
Those things are painful when they stab you with there pain poison loaded spines, they burn like fire for hours.
On 10/26/2016 at 3:01 AM, Jon P. said:at my grandpas old house we used to catch bullheads that weighed up to a pound and a half with freakish baseball stomachs, few things taste better but they are a pain to deal with. i still have a scar on my thumb from being impaled by one when I was six.
On 10/26/2016 at 9:19 AM, IndianaFinesse said:Those things are painful when they stab you with there pain poison loaded spines, they burn like fire for hours.
My grandpa dropped a small channel cat on his bare foot while we were wading for cats once. I remember it hitting his foot and sticking instead of bouncing like I expected. He was sick as a dog by the time we made it back to the truck. I was maybe 6 or 7 at the time, learned a lot of new words that day.