lure or live bait??
what is it??
:D :D :D
Pike around here readily take any lure that exists. If I had to choose one I'd take spinnerbait, but by the tiniest margin over several others.
i've had good fortunes using inline spinners and spoons
My most successful lure for northern pike is neither an artificial lure nor live bait.
Roger
QuoteMy most successful lure for northern pike is neither an artificial lure nor live bait.
Roger
Then it's gotta be...bacon!
QuoteQuoteMy most successful lure for northern pike is neither an artificial lure nor live bait.
Roger
Then it's gotta be...bacon!
;D ;D
Pretty close...but it's neither bacon nor rind.
Just returned from the annual trip to Ontario. The top producers this year were spinnerbaits, 4" Storm wildeye shads and jointed Rapalas.
Rolo, just a guess...dead bait.
QuoteJust returned from the annual trip to Ontario. The top producers this year were spinnerbaits, 4" Storm wildeye shads and jointed Rapalas.Rolo, just a guess...dead bait.
Bingo!
Fresh-frozen baitfish can be hauled anywhere, even to fly-in lakes.
Many will tell you that bait isn't necessary for pike but that isn't the point, the theme here is "best" lure.
In the first place, I'm not referring to the snot-rockets in the shallow bays, but gator pike measuring 34" and up.
In the second place, when pike are on the bottom in deep water, the jig & minnow is worked slowly
in the strike zone, more thoroughly than any spoon, spinnerbait or jerkbait (jerkbaits are great right after ice-out).
Pike are not scavengers, but are accustomed to feeding on fresh-dead baitfish, which is particularly true for trophy-class pike.
During early spring for example, pike wolf-down tons of winterkilled baitfish every year.
Roger
i've only caught pike on spinnerbaits. they seem to work best, so that's what I use.
Believers or Swim Wizz. 8" size slow trolled and attached by the front eye on the plug. Pike love 'em.
My cousin and I caught a Northern Pike using a grub and a jig. We were catching pan fish. I caught one the summer before and she caught one last summer.
Other then that I never caught a pike again.
Johnson silver minnow
so far the southern pike seems to prefer live bait
Spoons and a Flourescent Orange jighead with a 4 or 5 inch chub.
Not to hijack this thread but I suppose this is related: I've caught pike on quite a few baits, but usually when I'm fishing for bass. I've been watching the Hunt For Big Fish a lot lately and I'm getting Essox hungry. I've learned that they react well to baits with the right SOUNDS. But what about ACTION? I was intending to throw some swimbaits for Pike and Muskie next season because of their lifelike action, but should I be throwing the right SOUNDING baits like spinnerbaits or buzzbaits?
Northerns are usually turned on or not. It sometimes takes some agitation to get them going. I've caught many pike on slow sink swimbaits in the 6" range. The swim, stop, and twitch/turnaround move works pretty well. Just don't use the expensive ones. There are several bigger options out there as well, but require special gear to throw.
JFrancho, one of these days when I make up some new ones I'm going to send you a couple of cuda tubes, I bet they would be great for pike and muskie.
I make 2 styles, 1 like this and another with a 12/0 limerick hook, that gives it a spinning motion, If I remember I will take a pic of one those, in my car.
We make them better than what you can buy.
http://www.tackledirect.com/sea-striker-cuda-tubes.html
I don't think there is a bait they won't take. Lip less cranks, and spinnerbaits seem to be at the top, followed by jerkbaits and diving crank baits. Heck I catch a fair ammount of them on jigs and plastics, they seem to like tungsten sinkers
QuoteI don't think there is a bait they won't take.
When they are feeding they are like hogs to the trough. At least that has been my experience. Generally if I am targeting them, which is rare, a Mepp's #5 or maybe a shallow crank will do the trick.
Cavitron buzzbait.
lipless cranks, bucktails (specifically Mepps #5), and spoons are my favorites.
Pike are the worst fish!!! I hate them!!! They are in cahoots with the baitmonkey!!! They eat my baits all summer long. There is not one day that i go out where we dont catch a few of them. They have become a problem on our lake because they are eating alot of walleye. I could rant on this subject for a long time telling you how i hate them and how many baits ive lost to them but thats for another thread!!!!
To answer your question... They really like wally divers and koppers perch when trolled. They love all crankbaits, spinnerbaits, in line spinners , grubs and even swimbaits. Ive even caught them on a senko. They are not as picky as our little brown and green friends!!!
Buzzbaits aer fantastic fun for action. I like huge soft plastic jerkbaits for more size.
I've had some luck with northern's on a six pack of lures i got from BPS. It's made by Mepp's, i think it was five in line spinners and a real nice spoon in a nice variety of design and color. Caught at least one pike on each, and a few on three of the lures. I'd say spoons are my fav. for the northern's.
QuoteBuzzbaits aer fantastic fun for action. I like huge soft plastic jerkbaits for more size.
Which huge soft jerkbaits are good?
My best two baits for pike have always been...
1. Johnson Silver Minnow, 3/4 oz. with a 6" white worm trailer; and,
2. Bettencourt Baits Slop Rodent
The first bait works in just about any situation you can run into; the second one is an awesome topwater bait for working fish out of heavy slop (being a river backwater/slough fisherman this situation presents itself quite often).
Of course, if you're fishing a wilderness lake/flowage in Canada any bait in your box will take pike. ;D
7" Super Flukes are easy to find usually. Also, Sluggos used to be made in 10' version I thought,but I'm having trouble finding them. Big hooks, 6/0
10' might be a little big. You can get the 9" and/or 12" from their website. The 9" would be agood compromise of action and size.
I've caught hammer handles on 10" Double Cowgirls.... A 10" fluke or Slug-O isn't too big. Some of the largest pike in a population subsist on smaller pike in the 12-20" size.
I didn't say it was too big, I was just saying if he's going for action and size, the 9 might be a good compromise. If he wants size, by all means use the 12 or something even bigger from saltwater. It's hard to get too big for pike/musky, the limiting factor is usually being able to cast the big baits all day.
If you do use the big baits, make sure you're heart is up to the exertion and the strikes, and get a BIG net. You'll basically be trying to land something the size of a very unhappy small human being...with sharp teeth.
you don't need a net, a Boga or Fishgrip, and set of 12" pliers.
Or you could use a cradle, but with a guy that's new to pike/musky, I thought a net migt be a little easier, more familiar and more secure. But to each his/her own. I guess the point is, be ready to handle a big fish, with teeth, at the boat/shore.
Cradles area pain, too. The FishGrip is the most accessible, at $12. The negative is that it does not have twisting grippers like a Boga. Net is fine for little guys, but you really want to get control of a big fish with a face full of 5/0 trebles. Speaking of trebles, replace the with Owner frog hooks. Remove all hooks BEFORE bringing the fish in the boat. When you grab them, you hold a smaller fish from the top of its head, just behind the gills. Be sure to support the belly on larger fish. You can use the gill cover as a handle as well, but use the outside of the closest gill, not inside where the sharp gill rakers are. This is where most people get cut. When releasing, just set them upright in the water, and support them under the pectoral fins, and give them a few moments to replace the lactic acid in their blood with oxygen. No rocking, or swishing needed. They'll simply slither away, and maybe give you a splash with their tail.
Some illustrations:
Landing with a FishGrip:
Good hold technique:
Fishgrip keeps your fingers away from hooks
Here's a fail, get the hooks out 1st!
Pike LOVE expensive crankbaits:
They also love cheap spinnerbaits. Use T-1 if you want them to last more than one fish, LOL.
My biggest pike always come when I'm bass fishing. It seems like fast moving reaction baits are what they love. We have one lake that is 1000 acres and is a big puddle, the deepest it gets is about 7' and it is all reeds and lily pads. Those things love frogs and buzzbaits. I have caught a few around 10 pounds out of there and every tourney someone is bound to get one between 15-20 pounds. If you go there with flukes or slug-go's, you can bang out 20-30 pike in a day generally in the 4-8 pound range.
Great illustrative pics J. Especially on the fail. ANd I certainly agree with you about the accesibility of the Fishgrip at $12.
Crazy Germans!
http://www.bigcatchtv.de/video/vu0_hechtangeln-als-k-der-dient-eine-digicam-mp4
Note at the end, "How not to hold a pike!"
I know how to land a pike. Just wondering how to better target them. I will try some big soft jerkbaits. Anyone ever use these jointed soft jerkbaits that I've seen. Some are weighted internally and others come with a big jighead. One was called "the super shad" I believe. Can't remember the companies' names, but I saw Larry Dalberg fish a bait like this
Find cooler water and weeds. They spawn in creeks at ice out. Season up here opens May 1.
QuoteI know how to land a pike. Just wondering how to better target them. I will try some big soft jerkbaits. Anyone ever use these jointed soft jerkbaits that I've seen. Some are weighted internally and others come with a big jighead. One was called "the super shad" I believe. Can't remember the companies' names, but I saw Larry Dalberg fish a bait like this
lake fork plastic swimbaits may be an option. 3.5" up to 8" but it'll probably be a 1 fish = trashed.
also if your in a boat, speed trolling cranks & spoons produce well along weedlines. be suprised how fast you can troll & they nail it. sometimes thats exactly what will trigger them vs slower/typical presentations.
i throw mostly black & red colored buzzbaits, spinnerbaits and bucktails. spring before weeds get to crazy. blue & chrome lipless cranks and shad raps/x raps have produced well as part of the arsenal. also don't forget about the infamous daredevil black & white.
QuoteNot to hijack this thread but I suppose this is related: I've caught pike on quite a few baits, but usually when I'm fishing for bass. I've been watching the Hunt For Big Fish a lot lately and I'm getting Essox hungry. I've learned that they react well to baits with the right SOUNDS. But what about ACTION? I was intending to throw some swimbaits for Pike and Muskie next season because of their lifelike action, but should I be throwing the right SOUNDING baits like spinnerbaits or buzzbaits?
Swim baits have a sound underwater. Some of the biggest fish we've caught in years past are on big rubber. I love Suzie Suckers, for instance. Hard Swim Baits are excellent, too. They're becoming more and more popular because they are so effective.