Asian Carp 2024
Uncle Leo reply :
A while back there was some interest in the Asian Carp. I found a photo of one I caught on the Illinois River Bass Fishing. This was caught on a crankbait and later in the day my partner also caught one on a crankbait. Thought I would share in case anyone was intersted. By the way they are fierce fighters. If I recall it went 18 lbs and was hard to handle, that it why it appears that I was struggling. It ran up river on me 4-5 times and took a good 10 minutes to land on a medium action rod with 10 lb line no net! 
JigMe reply :
Nice fish.
J Francho reply :
No, not a nice fish. That fish will be the end of Great Lakes fishing as we know it. >
Uncle Leo reply :
QuoteNo, not a nice fish. That fish will be the end of Great Lakes fishing as we know it. >
Yes that is why it was left on the bank for the Coons. They have taken over the river.
J Francho reply :
Nice 8-)
Also, I wonder what the heck they were doing eating crankbaits? I thought they were a filter feeder.
Uncle Leo reply :
QuoteNice 8-)Also, I wonder what the heck they were doing eating crankbaits? I thought they were a filter feeder.
I wondered that myself but both were caught on crankbaits in the mouth. They actually hit the crankbait. We also hooked one much larger in the back but could not land it. It finally straighten the hook, hope that one went belly up. Some of the Good ole Boys Bow fish them. When we launched in the morning they were coming in. I swear they had 500 lbs on the deck of their Jon Boat. Asked what they were going to do with them, they just laughed, the toothless type so I let it go.
NewAngler reply :
Nice size. Those suckers are THAT big of a threat?
That sucls.
bonzai22 reply :
yeah they have hit some crank baits i was throwing for striper and me and my cousin got hit with one that was fun
JigMe reply :
QuoteNo, not a nice fish. That fish will be the end of Great Lakes fishing as we know it. >
Its that serious huh? 
TimJ reply :
let's see...first build a waterway from LkMichigan to the Illinois R..."no, we won't open it nor divert any water"...then open it and divert enough water to lightly affect water levels through the 4 lakes after Michigan (lsc)...then "no, we can't close the waterway, even if it will save the great lakes from the asian carp"...the powers that be are now fighting about what to do to try to keep the as.carp out of the great lakes, even as they probably swim into LkMich!
pretty sure the info is close anyways. what a bunch of crap!
TJ
zero limit reply :
they are allready in the great lakes. they have found them in lake erie years ago
Tom H. reply :
They are a huge pain in the arse here in Central Il . My buddies son was knocked out cold this summer when one jumped and smacked him on top of the head . I know that I have ended up with bruised ribs from them jumping into the boat . It used to be we would go to the river and enjoy a day on the water , but it seems like now I can't get the GF or kids to go with me because they don't want the d**n things hitting them. IDNR says kill every one of them that jump into the boat. Game warden told us last year if you got caught with a live one you would be ticketed . Kill em all -----------
Daniel My Brother reply :
Asian Carp are ruining the rivers I fish.
You can't catch them with traditional methods (Uncle Leo is the exception). Although tasty, they are next to impossible to clean. They reproduce like crazy and detroy the food chain from the bottom up. These fish grow several pounds a month, crowding out gamefish in the process.
Worst of all, there's really no way to stop them. But yeah, if you snag one they are great fighters.
jeosbo01 reply :
I believe they have a couple of pretty big money bow fishing tourneys for them each year around KY and Barkley Lakes. They donate them to local game reserves for feeding rehab animals and injured/non-releasable eagles and such.
I have been luck to not have caught one thus far...I know they are destructive and I know they should be destroyed, but I hate to kill anything I don't plan to eat. I hear they are actually very tasty, but very hard to clean!
Not_Here reply :
i think thats where biogenetic engineering needs to come into play or something. develope a virus that only effects them which either sterilizes or kills them.
once a species gets established. its impossible to eradicate them. catching a few or netting a bunch and killing them will have basically zero effect. won't even put a pin hole size of a dent in the population or control the overall numbers.
zach Trump reply :
O ya fishmaster22 i remember that. remember that one we hooked into when you were reeling in that catfish pole and it took it up river
Eternal Angler reply :
They sure are an ugly fish, just hope they don't take over the Great Lakes.
Great to hear they are good fighters.
midnighthrasher reply :
The government should just put up a 1$ to every asian carp killed. Have a few shops, fishing stores, marina's registered as legal check in stations that when you show them the dead fish they give you a receip and the gov sends you your money. They would have every bounty hunter catching them by the hundreds every day. You could probably eliminate them prety fast. You could do it all year round which would give people something to do when their fish of choice is out of season. Look bak in the history and when animals were a problem they give a small amount of mony and humans eradicate them. The wolves in canada is a good example. The asian carp will not get rid of themselves and poisoning them will probably hurt other native species. Fish the to extinction. Imagine the government gave out a million dollars for caught asian carp. That would be a hell of alot cheaper than doing it in any other way. A million dollars when you got biologists and game wardens dosnnt reallly go that far.
Uncle Leo reply :
No sure a bounty will get rid of them. In the late 70's when I was in So. California they had a bounty on coyotes. They still exist. I believe it will be much harder with fish that can not be seen. I know of no bounty that rid the planet of anything except for a meteor.
J Francho reply :
Or they could take that $$$ and fill the canals that connect and reverse the river's flow, returning things to their natural state.
Uncle Leo reply :
The Asian Carp are in the Illinois River which still flows in its natural direction. The Chicago River was the one that was reversed. Let's not lose sight of the fact that these were introduced by harboring in the bilges of ships from overseas to feed our appetite of low cost goods from Asia. The Asian Carp being in the waterways have little to do with the flow of the river and more to do with not buying American, then again that is another subject. The flow of the river was changed many moons ago to filter human waste, way back when folks pooped wherever they chose.
Link provided if there is interest.
http://www.lib.niu.edu/2001/ihy010452.html
tyrius. reply :
Asian carp were imported by catfish farmers to keep their ponds clean. Some of those ponds were close to the river and during a particularly bad flood the river flooded into the ponds and the carp are now in the river.
There's talk that the carp won't be able to spawn in the Lakes. Supposedly, they need current to suspend their eggs. If the eggs hit the rive/lake bed then the eggs are no longer viable.
roadwarrior reply :
Here's the latest development:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/08/feds-commit-million-fight-asian-carp-midwest-waterways/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fpolitics+%2528Text+-+Politics%2529
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
I know people bowfish for them off the back of the boat, but....
How about using a shotgun? 
I mean, as long as no one else is around the area, I think that it could be quite a fun day. ;D
You dont even have to yell, "PULL!"
midnighthrasher reply :
QuoteI know people bowfish for them off the back of the boat, but....How about using a shotgun?
I mean, as long as no one else is around the area, I think that it could be quite a fun day. ;D
You dont even have to yell, "PULL!"
That would be awesome!!!!! I got a little friend named " Benelli super black eagle II ' that would probably have some fun too!!!!
roadwarrior reply :
Well, if the Feds are going to spend a wad of
dough, the solution is simple: $100 per fish
will kill every single carp in the river system!
8-)
.ghoti. reply :
I can't help but remember some of the past things that were going to destroy fishing as we know it.
Remember when milfoil first showed up? It was going to devastate every fishery in the southern US. "Facts" were quoted to support this view. Research was funded, and eradication programs initiated. And, what happened? Milfoil has flourished, and the bass found it to be quite nice for cover, refuge and feeding.
How about zebra mussels? they were also going to destroy fishing in the great lakes. What happened? the water cleared up, allowing weedlines to extend into deeper water, and the fish adjusted nicely. So did the fishermen.
Gobies? These were supposed to be the absolute end-all of great lakes fishing. They were going to eat all the eggs of all the fish in the waters they inhabited. What happened? The smallmouth and walleye discovered them. A great, new, easy to catch food source that has promoted vigorous growth in both species.
How about snakeheads? That topic has been beat to death here, so I won't go there.
Nature has the knack of finding a balance. When the asian carp get into the big lakes, they will spread. This is inevitable. Screwing around, again, with the Chicago River will do nothing to stop this.
A new balance will be quickly established. Who knows, the juvenile carp may very provide a new, tasty food source for our game fish. Muskie, in particular favor carp and suckers over all other prey. A new heyday for great lakes muskie fishing may be just over the horizon.
These biospheres will take care of themselves. The very last thing we need is for the federal and/or state governments to initiate some knee-jerk reaction plan. Whatever they might try, it is bound to be short-sighted, big on sound bites, short on science, and probably just plain stupid.
Leave it alone; nature will take care of itself. The law of unintended consequences is always in play when messing around with the real world.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Gary, I dont care what you say....
I still think it would be fun to shoot them out of the air with my shotgun. ;D
zero limit reply :
QuoteI can't help but remember some of the past things that were going to destroy fishing as we know it.Remember when milfoil first showed up? It was going to devastate every fishery in the southern US. "Facts" were quoted to support this view. Research was funded, and eradication programs initiated. And, what happened? Milfoil has flourished, and the bass found it to be quite nice for cover, refuge and feeding.
How about zebra mussels? they were also going to destroy fishing in the great lakes. What happened? the water cleared up, allowing weedlines to extend into deeper water, and the fish adjusted nicely. So did the fishermen.
Gobies? These were supposed to be the absolute end-all of great lakes fishing. They were going to eat all the eggs of all the fish in the waters they inhabited. What happened? The smallmouth and walleye discovered them. A great, new, easy to catch food source that has promoted vigorous growth in both species.
How about snakeheads? That topic has been beat to death here, so I won't go there.
Nature has the knack of finding a balance. caWhen the asian rp get into the big lakes, they will spread. This is inevitable. Screwing around, again, with the Chicago River will do nothing to stop this.
A new balance will be quickly established. Who knows, the juvenile carp may very provide a new, tasty food source for our game fish. Muskie, in particular favor carp and suckers over all other prey. A new heyday for great lakes muskie fishing may be just over the horizon.
These biospheres will take care of themselves. The very last thing we need is for the federal and/or state governments to initiate some knee-jerk reaction plan. Whatever they might try, it is bound to be short-sighted, big on sound bites, short on science, and probably just plain stupid.
Leave it alone; nature will take care of itself. The law of unintended consequences is always in play when messing around with the real world.
.ghoti. reply :
QuoteGary, I dont care what you say....
I still think it would be fun to shoot them out of the air with my shotgun. ;D
Carp Skeet, cool. Sign me up. :D
What do ya think? #4 shot? ;D ;D
zero limit reply :
QuoteQuoteGary, I dont care what you say....
I still think it would be fun to shoot them out of the air with my shotgun. ;D
Carp Skeet, cool. Sign me up.
What do ya think? #4 shot? ;D ;D
I also would love this but we would be dumping lead in to the rivers and causing a whole new problem
CanalStalkin reply :
Use steel shot ;D. I have a question. The area I fish is overwhelmed with GRASS carp, what kind of impact do these fish have? Are they as dangerous as the silver carp.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteGary, I dont care what you say....
I still think it would be fun to shoot them out of the air with my shotgun. ;D
Carp Skeet, cool. Sign me up.
What do ya think? #4 shot? ;D ;D
I also would love this but we would be dumping lead in to the rivers and causing a whole new problem
Steel shot or some other alternative like Tungsten/Bismuth.
I can be Eco-friendly while Carp Skeeting.
zero limit reply :
they are out again today hunting them d@mn carp
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/biologists-fish-for-elusive-asian-carp-in-ship-canal.html
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