Underwater View 2024
jim k reply :
Here's a 3 minute video I put together yesterday. I thought you guys might enjoy it. If you don't, it's free and short. It shows bass and walleye, sturgeon, and muskies, along with some baitfish. I will check back and try to answer any questions you might have as best I can.
scaleface reply :
What was that at 2:50 , a pike with a broken back ?
Quarry Man reply :
nice video
Chance_Taker4 reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 1:54 AM, scaleface said:What was that at 2:50 , a pike with a broken back ?
I couldn't tell for sure if it was a musky or sturgeon but it looked like it was eating something.
Koz reply :
It looks like most of the fish are nervously thinking, "Back off dude. I don't want no trouble."
Nice video.
jim k reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 2:39 AM, Chance_Taker4 said:I couldn't tell for sure if it was a musky or sturgeon but it looked like it was eating something.
That was a sturgeon. He is horribly deformed. You wouldn't think he could get by like he is, but we have watched him grow over the last several years.
soflabasser reply :
Nice video! You can learn a lot about fish while diving in their natural habitat.
jim k reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 5:13 AM, Koz said:It looks like most of the fish are nervously thinking, "Back off dude. I don't want no trouble."
Nice video.
Thank you. Most of the bass come up to within inches of me. They are easily the most aggressive North American freshwater fish. If they had teeth, they would be scary. That makes them easy to film. The other species, well.... I have to work at it and get what I can.
XpressJeff reply :
Very nice, I appreciate the view.
BassObsessed reply :
Good stuff seeing what's lurking down there that you're trying to catch.
jim k reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 8:41 AM, BassObsessed said:Good stuff seeing what's lurking down there that you're trying to catch.
To some extent, I think diving has made me a better fisherman, and fishing has helped me be a better underwater videographer. It sure can be aggravating at times though, KNOWING that there's fish where I am fishing, and being unable to come up with a presentation that is effective.
On 8/8/2017 at 6:44 AM, soflabasser said:Nice video! You can learn a lot about fish while diving in their natural habitat.
For sure! What a huge difference between smallmouth and largemouth for instance.
soflabasser reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 7:14 PM, jim k said:To some extent, I think diving has made me a better fisherman, and fishing has helped me be a better underwater videographer. It sure can be aggravating at times though, KNOWING that there's fish where I am fishing, and being unable to come up with a presentation that is effective.
For sure! What a huge difference between smallmouth and largemouth for instance.
I agree diving makes you a better fisherman. I have freedived a lot of lakes in South Florida and learned a lot about where bass hide, at what times they eat, what they eat, etc. It's a shame that most bass fishermen don't get into freediving, its awesome sport.
DomQ reply :
That was AWESOMEEEEE
Bluebasser86 reply :
Great video!
Preytorien reply :
That's a really neat video! Thanks for sharing it
IndianaFinesse reply :
On 8/8/2017 at 1:54 AM, scaleface said:What was that at 2:50 , a pike with a broken back ?
I think that was a sturgeon feeding on something.
J Francho reply :
Ha! I shared this in the smallie section. Nice video work, Jim!
fishballer06 reply :
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
I like seeing the walleye and smallmouth swimming side by side, and how the smallmouth positioned themselves on that hump.
jim k reply :
On 8/9/2017 at 11:41 PM, fishballer06 said:Great video. Thank you for sharing.
I like seeing the walleye and smallmouth swimming side by side, and how the smallmouth positioned themselves on that hump.
Thank you. The walleye seems to be the most social fish, often hanging with other gamefish.
You can bet I've seen some strange things and learned that some commonly held beliefs weren't true. I always heard that the musky was a killing machine. Everything else is just bait. An underwater terror. I saw a musky and a walleye laying side by side and thought it strange. We then saw what we think was the same two fish together again. We called them the odd couple. As the years went by, we saw it time and time again with different walleye and muskie.
I recorded in Hi 8 tape in those days, and fortunately never taped over , always using fresh tapes. Over the course of many winter evenings, I reviewed all my footage and came up with about a dozen examples, then made a you tube video about it.
I actually had an instance where I was filming close in on an 'eye and a musky got in my face about it. Another time , my partner and I decided to split go around a small rock pile. There was a muskie and a walleye on the corners. they didn't like it and decided to swim off. I glided towards the walleye for a close shot when the muskie didn't like my proximity and nudged the walleye with his snout to get him moving. I thought I was going to witness an attack, but it was clearly a friendly nudge.
Smallmouth bass give muskies some room, as they are on the menu. A smallie is always uneasy around a muskie. You will never see them resting side by side. I've had 2 bass hit by muskies as I fought them while fishing.
fishballer06 reply :
Keep up the hard work and keep sharing your video's on here. I'm sure many of us will all enjoy and learn from them.
BigAngus752 reply :
Fantastic video. The #1 takeaway for me was just how beautiful smallies are. Even more amazing seen in the water than on the end of my line. Just a gorgeous fish.
And how do you get so darn close? Are you dressed like a giant Senko?
scaleface reply :
On 8/10/2017 at 8:57 PM, BigAngus752 said:And how do you get so darn close?
Bass are curious . I snorkeled in a clear Ozark stream . Every single laydown had bass in it . I would tap my fingernail against my watch and they swam to me to investigate .
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 8/10/2017 at 7:03 AM, jim k said:Thank you. The walleye seems to be the most social fish, often hanging with other gamefish.
You can bet I've seen some strange things and learned that some commonly held beliefs weren't true. I always heard that the musky was a killing machine. Everything else is just bait. An underwater terror. I saw a musky and a walleye laying side by side and thought it strange. We then saw what we think was the same two fish together again. We called them the odd couple. As the years went by, we saw it time and time again with different walleye and muskie.
I recorded in Hi 8 tape in those days, and fortunately never taped over , always using fresh tapes. Over the course of many winter evenings, I reviewed all my footage and came up with about a dozen examples, then made a you tube video about it.
I actually had an instance where I was filming close in on an 'eye and a musky got in my face about it. Another time , my partner and I decided to split go around a small rock pile. There was a muskie and a walleye on the corners. they didn't like it and decided to swim off. I glided towards the walleye for a close shot when the muskie didn't like my proximity and nudged the walleye with his snout to get him moving. I thought I was going to witness an attack, but it was clearly a friendly nudge.
Smallmouth bass give muskies some room, as they are on the menu. A smallie is always uneasy around a muskie. You will never see them resting side by side. I've had 2 bass hit by muskies as I fought them while fishing.
This is fascinating information! I have always heard from Walleye guys that they hate musky, because musky eat all their precious walleye. There was even a very public showing of this up on Lake St. Clair a few years ago when a walleye fisherman was filmed killing a musky and letting him float. When he was confronted, he said he did that to all the musky he caught, because they were detrimental to the walleye fishery. Your videos would also explain why a lot of walleye fisherman catch musky, because those two seems to hang out a lot.
Have you ever considered sharing these videos on musky forums? I think some of your thoughts and findings would generate great discussions.
J Francho reply :
On 8/10/2017 at 10:53 PM, Lucky Craft Man said:There was even a very public showing of this up on Lake St. Clair a few years ago when a walleye fisherman was filmed killing a musky and letting him float.
I remember that. Ugh.
BigAngus752 reply :
On 8/10/2017 at 10:32 PM, scaleface said:Bass are curious . I snorkeled in a clear Ozark stream . Every single laydown had bass in it . I would tap my fingernail against my watch and they swam to me to investigate .
That's just cool.
jim k reply :
On 8/10/2017 at 10:53 PM, Lucky Craft Man said:
This is fascinating information! I have always heard from Walleye guys that they hate musky, because musky eat all their precious walleye. There was even a very public showing of this up on Lake St. Clair a few years ago when a walleye fisherman was filmed killing a musky and letting him float. When he was confronted, he said he did that to all the musky he caught, because they were detrimental to the walleye fishery. Your videos would also explain why a lot of walleye fisherman catch musky, because those two seems to hang out a lot.
Have you ever considered sharing these videos on musky forums? I think some of your thoughts and findings would generate great discussions.
I have shared them on Musky sites, and walleye as well. I was actually on the board of a local musky club in a conservation role for several years.
The walleye musky interactions video is the only one I really get any backlash over. Because it challenges long held notions.
I always remind myself that I'm very privileged to see a world that few others get to see, and when I show something like this, I may be challenging someone's beliefs.
People tend to believe what they want to, in spite of any evidence to the contrary. A scientific study can show something, and further study can re-affirm it. However, if it doesn't fit into their personal agenda, religious, or political tenets, people will deny it or discredit it.
I myself thought it was an oddity. A freak of nature. I heard that muskies ate everything. I wore a tee shirt years ago "Muskies- Everything else is just bait". They sell muskie lures in a dozens of paint schemes, including walleye. I have loved fishing since I was 4 years old. I grew up in the sport. It was so ingrained in my brain that I couldn't believe it myself. It defied what I was brought up to believe. I had to see it with my own eyes a half dozen times before it started to sink in. IT CHALLENGED MY OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS. It's a funny thing, Belief.
So, It's on my channel. People can watch it. I think it's got 20 K views. But this is a world where people routinely bomb each other over their beliefs. I think they are less receptive than ever to challenges to it.
It was well worth doing. I learned as much about myself and people as I did about walleye and musky.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
Jim,
I sent you a PM.
PS I have a lot of Walleye colored lures. I may have to sell those and start buying Smallmouth Bass colored lures.
J Francho reply :
The footage doesn't lie. Great stuff Jim. Thanks so much for sharing these videos.
jim k reply :
I see you posted that muskie walleye video up on muskie first. After the first three replies, you can see what I mean. I'm sitting here chuckling to myself.
People believe what they want to believe. What they were told to believe.
I showed people what I saw. But they dismiss it. Just a crazy yankee diver. Must be a real wacko to dive in that river upstream of the falls!
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