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fishing user avatarNeedemp reply : 

Something that I have determined this year was that there are several different types of fisherman. None necessarily better than another, but to each his own, and that makes us happy. For instance, there is what I refer to as "lake fisherman" and "bass fisherman". Lake fisherman will eventually pick apart a specific lake just by fishing it over and over. A lot of these guys are dominant on their bodies of water. But they couldn't go to a new body of water and have consistent success right away (for the most part). "Bass fisherman" on the other hand can do that. They are a student of the bass and are able to go almost anywhere new and figure the bass out. Of course there are always exceptions to any rule, bare that in mind.

But then there is this that I recognized this year. There are "spot fisherman" and "pattern fisherman". A "spot fisherman" will always go to his hot spots all year long regardless of season, weather, clarity, etc. He has his spots that are good and that is where he will live and die. But the "pattern fisherman" gets on a body of water and tries to find the pattern, and fishes as many areas with the same characteristics as possible. For instance, he might discover that bass are holding in the early fall pattern of being in deep water, suspended high in the water column, holding right against the outside edge of a standing timber line butted right up against a tree. He then will visit 3, 4, 5, etc spots that fit those same characteristics. He thus finds a pattern and sticks to it all over the lake.

My question, and hopefully this sparks some good discussion, what kind of fisherman are you? Lake, bass, spot and/or pattern fisherman and why?


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

All of the above   ;)


fishing user avatarRobbyZ5001 reply : 

I try to follow patterns but if it comes up with nothing I will go back to my confident spots.


fishing user avatarLow_Budget_Hooker reply : 

I am a lake /pattern fisherman.  Somewhat.  Although I now fish the same place consistently, I spent yrs fishing just about every body of water in my state and quite a few in neighboring states.  This experience educated me to know that where I fish now is pretty much the cream of the crop.

Spots change.  This yr our fish are holding on very different areas than in yrs past, mostly due to chemical influences introduced by the water supply board to re-balance the lake.  Being a successful pattern fisherman, allowed us to start finding their new haunts.


fishing user avatarSam reply : 

First, I try to study the body of water I am fishing via maps.

Then, it is off in the boat to recon the place.

After that, it is deciding where to fish, how to fish and what baits to use.

We all have our favorite spots; do our milk runs; use our confident baits; and fish like we like to fish.

Your options for us seem to boil down the ways to fish. Thanks for sharing.

I have used only one of your methods when fishing but mostly I use a combination of them on each body of water, even ponds.

Now all we need is some rain to put some water back into the rivers, lakes and ponds so we can go fishing again.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

River fisherman/ patterns almost exclusively. There are "spots" on a big river that are consistantly better than others, but river fish will move as conditions change and they change everyday! Surprisingly, trophy smallmouth can be found in the most unusual places that don't meet any "textbook criteria." Current dominates, structure is the contributing factor.


fishing user avatarmorieeel reply : 

hmm, good question,I guess Lake fisherman.  My lake is a weedy natural lake and I don't see the bass moving due to patterns too much, unless they move up into the canals.  Most of the time I can find them in the holes, that I found them months ago.

Rather than pattern, or fishing same holes, I like breaking the lake down to sections and fish that section for a few weeks no run and gunning.  I don't get flustered if I don't get a bite, I just log it on a map, or vice versa if I find a good spot.  I go back to the hot spots once a month to see if their still there or if i have friends along and run and gun the good spots.  

If I fished numerous lakes, I would definitly pattern fish, but as stated I really haven't noticed the fish on my lake moving due to seasons, weather etc.  


fishing user avatarMatt Fly reply : 
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All of the above ;)

I have my favorite lake, favorite spots on said lake, but do love to go to a new lake.

All the above!!!   As I looked at RW's point, I just remembered, that most of my younger days as a kid was on the river.    I love camping on a river also.

I like some tight lines on bottom for supper and my bassing in the day light.

Matt


fishing user avatarjwo1124 reply : 

since I mainly shore fish, I am forced to be a "spot fisherman", I do however walk around the peremeter of a ponds as much as possible. But sine the ponds i mostly fish are located in an urban area, alot of the shoreline is commercialized. This makes it tough. But when I take my jon boat out, which happens once in a while, I will pick apart the water, but I do use my knowledge to think about where the fish may be and why. It always pays to know what our doing and why. But then agian, sometimes mindless casting and beating the shoreline will pay off.


fishing user avatarfishfordollars reply : 

Lake, River, Pattern. map study before each outing. I have some milk run places on several lakes but I do not depend on them and may never run them unless I need to fall back on them. It changes up so much I am not comfortable hole fishing. I prefer to be on the move until I have either figured it out or checked out the local thong and beach parties. they are the easiest to pattern anyway.


fishing user avatarCrestliner2008 reply : 

I target the Quabbin Res. here in MA during it's open season. Mainly because it holds such a fine smallmouth population. I currently have 14 marked GPS location there, where I've consistently done well, so I usually hit them on a milk run each time out. However, each time I do go out, I make sure to try at least one or two new areas, according to what my sonar tells me, which could/should prove productive. Pre and post Quabbin seasons I fish the CT River and various lakes and ponds in Western MA. I'm always trying different presentations and areas, so I'm not sure what kind of fisherman I am  :-/, except that I have one thing in common with all fishermen: I truly love catching fish  ;)


fishing user avatartntitans21399 reply : 

I think I'm more of the Lake, Bass, Spot.  I'm still new and trying to figure out patterns.  I do usually go to one lake and try different spots I pick out after looking at a map.  But I also do go to another local lake and have had the same amount of success as the main lake I go to, but I'm not dominant at either, mainly because I'm new to the sport.  I try to see where the bass are on my fish finder to see what depth they are at, and just keep trying to use different lures to get them to bite.  But I haven't figured out what they do from each season, daily weather temps, wind, etc...  I guess time will tell.


fishing user avatarBASS fisherman reply : 
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Something that I have determined this year was that there are several different types of fisherman. None necessarily better than another, but to each his own, and that makes us happy. For instance, there is what I refer to as "lake fisherman" and "bass fisherman". Lake fisherman will eventually pick apart a specific lake just by fishing it over and over. A lot of these guys are dominant on their bodies of water. But they couldn't go to a new body of water and have consistent success right away (for the most part). "Bass fisherman" on the other hand can do that. They are a student of the bass and are able to go almost anywhere new and figure the bass out. Of course there are always exceptions to any rule, bare that in mind.

But then there is this that I recognized this year. There are "spot fisherman" and "pattern fisherman". A "spot fisherman" will always go to his hot spots all year long regardless of season, weather, clarity, etc. He has his spots that are good and that is where he will live and die. But the "pattern fisherman" gets on a body of water and tries to find the pattern, and fishes as many areas with the same characteristics as possible. For instance, he might discover that bass are holding in the early fall pattern of being in deep water, suspended high in the water column, holding right against the outside edge of a standing timber line butted right up against a tree. He then will visit 3, 4, 5, etc spots that fit those same characteristics. He thus finds a pattern and sticks to it all over the lake.

My question, and hopefully this sparks some good discussion, what kind of fisherman are you? Lake, bass, spot and/or pattern fisherman and why?

Man I thought my ears were burning earlier today! ;D


fishing user avatarRobDar reply : 

well...success not being the determining factor on style...I would say that I make an effort to be a "bass fisherman"...though I am guilty of being a spot fisherman at times, especially when I am frustrated. I will go back to just hitting spots I have had success at in the past.

I will say though that most "bass fisherman"...especially those that are consistant and successful are successful because of "pattern fishing"...and most bass fisherman do pattern fish...I am not sure that the two can be seperated.


fishing user avatarTin reply : 

I mostly do tourneys and time is usually a dominant factor in my head. I f I know a lake good enough I will run and gun. But I really only feel comfortable on a handfull of lakes. Besides that its all about the patterns and the hotspots. You can have all the "hotspots" in the world but if you dont know what the fish want and are doing you cant catch them. I had to learn this the hard way by watching a fisherman pull up to a rockpile I was fishing and I had just left because "they just weren"t there", then he went over and ended up winning the tourney. On most lakes most people know all the "hotspots" anyway, so you need to figure out " the pattern" to get them off that spot.


fishing user avatarKozak reply : 

I'm a bass fisherman and I spot/pattern. You can put me in front of any pond or lake and most likely I will be able to catch some bass. At the same time, I do have my sweet spots that I will try, but I'll also look at the conditions and find the pattern. If the wind's blowing against a shoreline, I'm going to go fish that shoreline and save my sweet spot for another time.


fishing user avatarcart7t reply : 
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Something that I have determined this year was that there are several different types of fisherman. None necessarily better than another, but to each his own, and that makes us happy. For instance, there is what I refer to as "lake fisherman" and "bass fisherman". Lake fisherman will eventually pick apart a specific lake just by fishing it over and over. A lot of these guys are dominant on their bodies of water. But they couldn't go to a new body of water and have consistent success right away (for the most part). "Bass fisherman" on the other hand can do that. They are a student of the bass and are able to go almost anywhere new and figure the bass out. Of course there are always exceptions to any rule, bare that in mind.

I'm gonna disagree here Mike.  If you drop a lake fisherman or a Bass fishermen onto a body of water neither is familiar with, they'll probably both go about methodically trying to catch fish by process of elimination via using techniques to locate fish mostly based around their knowledge of seasonal bass movements.  Granted, a bassfishermen who doesn't spend a great deal of time on a single body of water but gets around may have an advantage strictly due to having to adapt all the time he's on the water but I don't think the Lake fisherman would have a problem unless he completely has tuned all other fishing possibilities out except his one lake he fishes.  He may tend to gravitate towards structure or cover that's similar to the lake he fishes primarily but I have a feeling he'd be able to locate the fish.

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But then there is this that I recognized this year. There are "spot fisherman" and "pattern fisherman". A "spot fisherman" will always go to his hot spots all year long regardless of season, weather, clarity, etc. He has his spots that are good and that is where he will live and die. But the "pattern fisherman" gets on a body of water and tries to find the pattern, and fishes as many areas with the same characteristics as possible. For instance, he might discover that bass are holding in the early fall pattern of being in deep water, suspended high in the water column, holding right against the outside edge of a standing timber line butted right up against a tree. He then will visit 3, 4, 5, etc spots that fit those same characteristics. He thus finds a pattern and sticks to it all over the lake.

My question, and hopefully this sparks some good discussion, what kind of fisherman are you? Lake, bass, spot and/or pattern fisherman and why?

A pattern fishermen first has to find the "spots" that are holding fish.  If I have a monday thru Friday job and can only get to the lake to fish for one day I'll definitely try the spots first.  They've proven in the past to hold fish and I'm all for cutting down the search time as much as possible.  If those don't produce then I'm forced to change up.  I may fish those spots differently or I'll change locations completely and fish new water.  Getting back to your scenario, a guy who goes down to the lake to fish a tourney and has no time to pre-fish doesn't have much choice other than to spot fish, at least for the good part of the day.  Since he really has no idea when he hit the water just exactly what the fish were doing that day, just venturing out and trying to find fish based on limited knowledge of location and water conditions is pretty hit or miss.  He's probably better off gunning his spots and taking his chances that way.

One other thing, it's not uncommon for Pro anglers to move onto a lake and literally beat up the locals on their own table during any of the major tournaments.  It's not because those pro's didn't do their homework, they did.  They may go onto a body of water better equipped than the locals.  They've probably fished the lake all the way up to the cut-off date.  The reason they win so often is because the local "Lake fishermen"  run around for the first couple days of the tourney to their "spots" and milk them dry.  By the final days of the T, they're out of ammo and forced to run around and find fish like everyone else.  The Pro's, having properly prepared, mop up by fishing the lake differently than the locals do.  I've witnessed several BASS tournaments at LOZ and the one thing the winners had in common were they weren't fishing normal patterns and techniques for the lake given the time of year.  They brought their own style and interpretation of the lake and fished accordingly. But it wasn't without a great deal of preparation.  Those pro anglers are intense fishermen and quite talented but drop them onto a lake with zero preparation or knowledge and they can struggle just like anyone of us.  Just go through the "Day on the Lake" series that's run in bassmaster over the past few years.  Those guys aren't approaching those lakes any differently than you or I do if we have no idea what the fish are biting on that day.  Their results over the years has proven that.


fishing user avatarLow_Budget_Hooker reply : 
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that don't meet any "textbook criteria."

lol, I'm convinced our fish are either dyslexic! :)


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

I agree with cart7's assessment and will add to be a successful angler you must be all four; as cart7 stated A pattern fishermen first has to find the "spots" that are holding fish and this is true but so does a lake fisherman or bass fishermen.

While I fish Toledo Bend more than any other lake I still look at seasonal patterns, weather patterns (patterns that work better during certain weather conditions), and then I look for specific patterns such as bait types, cover types, water depths ect. When I fish lakes I have never been on or haven't fished in years I approach them same way.


fishing user avatarNeedemp reply : 
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I'm gonna disagree here Mike. If you drop a lake fisherman or a Bass fishermen onto a body of water neither is familiar with, they'll probably both go about methodically trying to catch fish by process of elimination via using techniques to locate fish mostly based around their knowledge of seasonal bass movements. Granted, a bass fishermen who doesn't spend a great deal of time on a single body of water but gets around may have an advantage strictly due to having to adapt all the time he's on the water but I don't think the Lake fisherman would have a problem unless he completely has tuned all other fishing possibilities out except his one lake he fishes. He may tend to gravitate towards structure or cover that's similar to the lake he fishes primarily but I have a feeling he'd be able to locate the fish.

I like your answer. Well thought out, but I will disagree with you and here's why. The lake fisherman gets on his lake and just fishes. Puts the trolling motor on and with no real rhyme or reason just plugs away. Over time he discovers the hot spots on a lake. 90% of what he fishes is useless water, but he fishes it anyways. He works his way up to the spot that he catches fish on. Keep in mind that it is usually always bank beating and hitting visible cover. Now, take this guy and put him on new water and he will start fishing whatever looks good based on what is above the surface. Based on my experience, this has been most fisherman. Trust me my club is full of these guys.

Now take a bass fisherman, he will study a map, know some good areas and have a game plan before he even gets on the water. He won't make his decisions based on what he sees above the water (except maybe bottom content and something else he can't ignore). That's why I think a bass fisherman can have success the day he walks on a lake, as where the lake fisherman has to basically luck into fish or go home empty handed.

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A pattern fishermen first has to find the "spots" that are holding fish. If I have a monday thru Friday job and can only get to the lake to fish for one day I'll definitely try the spots first. They've proven in the past to hold fish and I'm all for cutting down the search time as much as possible. If those don't produce then I'm forced to change up. I may fish those spots differently or I'll change locations completely and fish new water. Getting back to your scenario, a guy who goes down to the lake to fish a tourney and has no time to pre-fish doesn't have much choice other than to spot fish, at least for the good part of the day. Since he really has no idea when he hit the water just exactly what the fish were doing that day, just venturing out and trying to find fish based on limited knowledge of location and water conditions is pretty hit or miss. He's probably better off gunning his spots and taking his chances that way.

Here is where my opinion of a pattern fisherman differs from yours. A pattern fisherman is aware of a lot more spots. He has to be. Based on the 'bag of patterns' he has in his knowledge compartment, he has to be aware of as many spots on the lake that meet the criteria of each possible pattern. This sounds difficult and can be. But that is why he will do a ton of homework at home, and spend more time behind the wheel exploring spots than he will be fishing. Most guys that prefish, actually fish 95% of the time. If they catch fish, most of the time those fish won't be there come tourney time. That's why you discover the pattern so you have a blueprint for the rest of the lake. Spot fisherman have their spots, but if they discover a pattern, they usually don't have identical spots to duplicate catching more fish.

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One other thing, it's not uncommon for Pro anglers to move onto a lake and literally beat up the locals on their own table during any of the major tournaments. It's not because those pro's didn't do their homework, they did. They may go onto a body of water better equipped than the locals. They've probably fished the lake all the way up to the cut-off date. The reason they win so often is because the local "Lake fishermen" run around for the first couple days of the tourney to their "spots" and milk them dry. By the final days of the T, they're out of ammo and forced to run around and find fish like everyone else. The Pro's, having properly prepared, mop up by fishing the lake differently than the locals do. I've witnessed several BASS tournaments at LOZ and the one thing the winners had in common were they weren't fishing normal patterns and techniques for the lake given the time of year. They brought their own style and interpretation of the lake and fished accordingly. But it wasn't without a great deal of preparation. Those pro anglers are intense fishermen and quite talented but drop them onto a lake with zero preparation or knowledge and they can struggle just like anyone of us. Just go through the "Day on the Lake" series that's run in bassmaster over the past few years. Those guys aren't approaching those lakes any differently than you or I do if we have no idea what the fish are biting on that day. Their results over the years has proven that.

Your last paragraph supports my theory. Yes the pro's bring what is needed to the table and that is why they can be successful till the last day. They are patterning fish. They know "bass", not just the lake. I don't know about you, but a lot I have learned from "A Day on the Lake" has taught me that these guys search for the pattern. They also catch quite a few big fish and have decent stringers. 95% of lake fisherman won't come close to that success given the same situation. Like you said, it takes talent and a lot of intensity. The lake fisherman knows the language and they know how to talk like a fisherman, but I have found that on the water they don't really understand it or they ignore it.


fishing user avatarfrogtog reply : 

I would say all four. Where ever I am fishing I try to take every thing into account, the weather, water conditions, current, time of year. Then I try to find the best looking spot that I fill will be holding fish. Then I go to work with my

tools and keep a positive attitude. I can't be thinking about everything else like

( What someone else might be catching or whats going on at work etc.) You have to stay focused on the present. And don't be afraid to try something new. I always try to give a spot a fair chance to produce, I will work it with different baits till I get something to bite. If that doesn't work then I try to find a another

spot completely different than I just tried. I'm not afraid to think outside the box.


fishing user avatarNeedemp reply : 
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I would say all four. Where ever I am fishing I try to take every thing into account, the weather, water conditions, current, time of year. Then I try to find the best looking spot that I fill will be holding fish. Then I go to work with my

tools and keep a positive attitude. I can't be thinking about everything else like

( What someone else might be catching or whats going on at work etc.) You have to stay focused on the present. And don't be afraid to try something new. I always try to give a spot a fair chance to produce, I will work it with different baits till I get something to bite. If that doesn't work then I try to find a another

spot completely different than I just tried. I'm not afraid to think outside the box.

I agree. In fact I don't like getting to much info about areas from locals. You have to trust what you know. In my classic this weekend I did have a guy from this forum go way out of his way to help me. I went to one of his spots, and it produced. Not in the way he told me to fish it, but according to the pattern that was working that day. I was thankful for his help, and I was able to apply my knowledge to that spot.


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I would say all four. Where ever I am fishing I try to take every thing into account, the weather, water conditions, current, time of year. Then I try to find the best looking spot that I fill will be holding fish. Then I go to work with my

tools and keep a positive attitude. I can't be thinking about everything else like

( What someone else might be catching or whats going on at work etc.) You have to stay focused on the present. And don't be afraid to try something new. I always try to give a spot a fair chance to produce, I will work it with different baits till I get something to bite. If that doesn't work then I try to find a another

spot completely different than I just tried. I'm not afraid to think outside the box.

I agree. In fact I don't like getting to much info about areas from locals. You have to trust what you know. In my classic this weekend I did have a guy from this forum go way out of his way to help me. I went to one of his spots, and it produced. Not in the way he told me to fish it, but according to the pattern that was working that day. I was thankful for his help, and I was able to apply my knowledge to that spot.

So in other words, you used the advice of one of the lake fisherman to find a spot he had already found and utilized it to score success.  In another example, had you just showed up at Little Dixie, without any information or pre-fishing knowledge, would you have keyed on those jetties like you did immediately or would you have possibly ventured into other areas of the lake and expended valuable time eliminating non-productive water like many others did that day?

What I'm saying is this, a bass fishermen is only as good at fishing new or unfamiliar water as the amount of time he puts into pre-investigation of that body of water. Whether studying maps, pre-fishing, talking to locals, etc.  Drop him onto the water without any prior knowledge and he is forced to eliminate unproductive water just like a Lake fishermen, who's never fished that lake either, would have to do.  How good either does is directly proportional to how much time and energy they've spent learning how bass relate to any body of water throughout the entire fishing year.  If Mr. Lake fishermen took off his learning cap because he fishes Lake A and only lake A and pays little attention to anything else, he may not do so well.  But if he's become a student of bass fishing and learned how the fish reacts to given circumstances on a body of water then I don't really think he'd be at any more disadvantage than the bass fishermen.

BTW, it's those lake fishermen that are the ones that find those spots that aren't on the map.  Lots of guys can read maps and those high percentage areas stick out like sore thumbs. They're also pounded because most anyone that can read a topo map winds up hitting them too.  It's those subtle places that look like absolutely zero on the map but in fact have a subtle structure or cover feature that those lake fishermen stumble on by accident by just going along and flogging the bank.  Sometimes those can be the best spots on the lake since so few know of them.


fishing user avatarrondef reply : 

I would say I am all of the above.  I fish my go to spots when I am in a slump and I like like to fish all different locations rivers and or lakes and I will find the LMBs.  


fishing user avatarjaskoh reply : 
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Something that I have determined this year was that there are several different types of fisherman. None necessarily better than another, but to each his own, and that makes us happy. For instance, there is what I refer to as "lake fisherman" and "bass fisherman". Lake fisherman will eventually pick apart a specific lake just by fishing it over and over. A lot of these guys are dominant on their bodies of water. But they couldn't go to a new body of water and have consistent success right away (for the most part). "Bass fisherman" on the other hand can do that. They are a student of the bass and are able to go almost anywhere new and figure the bass out. Of course there are always exceptions to any rule, bare that in mind.

But then there is this that I recognized this year. There are "spot fisherman" and "pattern fisherman". A "spot fisherman" will always go to his hot spots all year long regardless of season, weather, clarity, etc. He has his spots that are good and that is where he will live and die. But the "pattern fisherman" gets on a body of water and tries to find the pattern, and fishes as many areas with the same characteristics as possible. For instance, he might discover that bass are holding in the early fall pattern of being in deep water, suspended high in the water column, holding right against the outside edge of a standing timber line butted right up against a tree. He then will visit 3, 4, 5, etc spots that fit those same characteristics. He thus finds a pattern and sticks to it all over the lake.

My question, and hopefully this sparks some good discussion, what kind of fisherman are you? Lake, bass, spot and/or pattern fisherman and why?

I know what type of angler I want to become but as to what type of angler I am right now I can't answer that question with 100% confidence because of my lack of experience.  I would consider myself a bass fisherman by your definition because I put in at least a good hour to hour and a half of researching various aspects of bass fishing and strategy a day. (Mostly at Work  ;D)  In my opinion this doesn't make me a "good" bass fisherman because I am just starting out but I am trying.  I also get real excited when I am going to new lakes for the first time.  I would much rather have an ok day on the water on any lake I might fish rather than dominate one or two particular lakes.    

With your pattern vs spot fisherman.  When I am fishing lakes that I am familiar with and cannot produce a productive pattern I am guilty of going to spots that have produced before and they usually get me a fish or two.  Unfortunately these fish are usually shorts.  I recently joined a bass club to fish tournaments next year and I know this strategy will be a huge waste of time.  Knowing this I have made a conscious effort to try to figure out a pattern for a longer period of time.  Sometimes I put the pieces of the puzzle together and other times I get skunked.  But I learn a lot more by doing this.  

   


fishing user avatarNeedemp reply : 

Good answer jaskoh, but I wouldn't use the word guilty. It does boil down to catching fish. Being a bass fisherman also means having lake fisherman qualities and vica versa. Same with a spot and pattern fisherman. Everyone here could label themselves all 4 at times. But what are we most of the time. That is my question (and you answered it). Thanks guys, some good posts so far.


fishing user avatargranadethrow reply : 

well, i am all of them. I study the patterns at my lakes, usually find good spots that produce BIG bass all year long. I fish many different lakes. I usually go to certain spots because they are near a trail and hold bass  between 2-8 lbs ( pike walleye and crappie too)

Caught my PB there of 6 1/2 pounds


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So in other words, you used the advice of one of the lake fisherman to find a spot he had already found and utilized it to score success. In another example, had you just showed up at Little Dixie, without any information or pre-fishing knowledge, would you have keyed on those jetties like you did immediately or would you have possibly ventured into other areas of the lake and expended valuable time eliminating non-productive water like many others did that day?

First things first, well thought out Cart. For your questions specifically about me. At Shelbyville, a guy gave me a spot and told me to pull up about a long cast away from the shoreline and cast to the shore with a tube and work the area methodically. Before we even had a chance to fish that spot, we locked on to a pattern. We then began to look for specific areas and happened to end up at the location this guy told us about. It just so happened that it had the deep water, shade and willow reeds we were looking for. If this guy had never given me this spot, we would have fished it anyway because it was in our "scouting path". But because he had mentioned it was a good spot, we had confidence that the fish might be there. Like I said, we would have been there anyway.

Now about Little Dixie, I enjoyed prefishing with you and yes I was aware of the only riprap or rocks on that lake because of it. But, honestly it only saved a few minutes of my time. The lake was small enough that you could tell where the rocks were and were not. That was my goal no matter what. Besides, that day we just ran the bank and I knew very little about what was going on. You knew the lake, but as a guy in the back of the boat I only had the depth finder and my eyes. You told me that several spots in that lake were good. The first point, the first big cove on the right, the dam, both sets of jetties and the cove just north of the west jetties. But that was all based on your experience years ago. Neither of us could rely on that. Things change and lakes change. To me, I went there with only three areas in mind. Really only two, because I knew how shallow the West jetties were. In my mind, Little Dixie is a bad example because it was prespawn and the text book areas were in plain sight for everyone to see. Besides I will go a little further, why did you not fish them? If you knew it was that good of a spot, and when I even called you on the water, why did you not spend the majority of the time over there? I give you some credit, but I don't think in fairness to me, that you can take the majority of the credit. I don't think it would have been hard to find those jetties. They kind of stuck out. Besides, I could have spent just as much time in the other areas you pointed out. I hope this clears up my side of it. I enjoy our time fishing together and I am enjoying this conversation. Thanks!


fishing user avatarcart7t reply : 

I never got around to fish the jetties simply because Chuck and I got such a late start taking off. Because of his leg injury we had to load on the courtesy dock. By the time we were getting stuff situated the takeoff had happened (you were already fishing that bank right by the ramp cove).  Several boats were already well on their way to that jetty by the time I even was ready to take off.  Because it was a just for fun tourney it didn't really matter.  I merely started fishing in a couple areas know one was at.  Had that been a more serious deal I would've made sure I was on that particular jetty first thing.  As it was, I saw you and perhaps at least another boat on and off that thing most of the day, rather than horn in on your water I let it go.  I did come up on another pattern on the west side with a mud line formed along a bank due to the wind. I had hoped to pick up some larger fish working that bank but it was much like everyone else that day, smaller fish.  I guess it was a matter of life giving me lemons and I was trying to make lemonade.     ;)

I will agree with you on Dixie though, with the upper end of that lake not much more than a mud flat the quality of fishing and areas to fish has diminished.  In all honesty,  our little group that fished there that day was too many for that lake.  There just aren't enough quality fish nor areas that hold decent fish for even a 4 boat tournament on that lake anymore.  I can certainly see why the Little Dixie Bass Club no longer has a single tournament on their clubs namesake lake.  




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