This why you don't fish at the bottom of a dam 2024
MDBowHunter reply :
BrownBear reply :
That poor boat... Sad that any idiot one can get in and drive a boat, too bad there isn't a license requirements for boats. 
MDBowHunter reply :
Yea I don't think I'd want to be the coangler in his boat that's for sure. It must be nice to be handed a boat so you can just treat it like that, makes a poor boy like me cringe..
Logan S reply :
99% of those guys aren't handed a boat...It's one of the myths of pro fishing. I've heard a few different types of deals that the pros have for their boats, but they are paying for them one way or the other. That little ride he took cost him some money for sure.
That particular tournament had very high river levels, such that you could make the run to the dam in a glass boat. Many fisherman took the risk of running up in hopes of doing well and making some money. As the river dropped, it got harder and harder to get up and back. Miller did well in that tournament, might have even made the top 12 cut if I remember correctly...Probably one of his best finishes.
Not saying I would have done it, but I can understand why he and others did.
J._Bricker reply :
On 3/25/2016 at 8:44 PM, MDBowHunter said:Yea I don't think I'd want to be the coangler in his boat that's for sure. It must be nice to be handed a boat so you can just treat it like that, makes a poor boy like me cringe..
+1
buzzed bait reply :
forget about the boat, putting you and your co-angler's life in danger is ridiculous.... regardless of whether or not it could be done. that first bump on that first rock could have EASILY put either of them in that water.
Master Bait'r reply :
That's just brutal. Talk about a close call- safety first out there! Dang!!
Felix77 reply :
I can definitely appreciate risk/reward in tournament angling but some risks are just NOT worth taking. IMO this is one of them.
Gundog reply :
Not worth the reward to risk your and someone elses life. Hitting a rock sideways is an easy way to roll over a boat. In most of the lakes I've seen you can't legally get within 500 ft of a dam. I guess its different down there but I would not have taken that risk for anything in the world.
senile1 reply :
I fish some lakes with tons of trees broken off under the water. When the water level is at a certain point I occasionally catch my bass boat on the top of a broken off tree (only at trolling motor speeds) so I understand that scratching your bass boat is a part of getting to where the fish are. However, I agree with the posts above that this is dangerous. I wouldn't do it. Fortunately, for Miller, I suspect he must have hit the side of a somewhat smooth rock. If it had been jagged I think we might have seen a more harrowing result.
MDBowHunter reply :
On 3/25/2016 at 9:26 PM, Logan S said:99% of those guys aren't handed a boat...It's one of the myths of pro fishing. I've heard a few different types of deals that the pros have for their boats, but they are paying for them one way or the other. That little ride he took cost him some money for sure.
That particular tournament had very high river levels, such that you could make the run to the dam in a glass boat. Many fisherman took the risk of running up in hopes of doing well and making some money. As the river dropped, it got harder and harder to get up and back. Miller did well in that tournament, might have even made the top 12 cut if I remember correctly...Probably one of his best finishes.
Not saying I would have done it, but I can understand why he and others did.
So a few bucks and winning a tourney is worth your and your coanglers kids growing up without a father. I can't say that I understand that reasoning at all. You say he made the top 12 in that tourney, so what did that pay and was in even enough to repair the boat. This is the same reasoning that has pro athletes doing steroids, whatever it takes to win to hell with the consequences..
KHNC reply :
I would say his insurance repaired the boat. So maybe a 500.00 deductible . Progressive does full boat replacement as well. So , not much risk in the way of losing money on the boat itself. Life and limb is obviously a bigger risk.
Logan S reply :
On 3/25/2016 at 11:45 PM, MDBowHunter said:So a few bucks and winning a tourney is worth your and your coanglers kids growing up without a father. I can't say that I understand that reasoning at all. You say he made the top 12 in that tourney, so what did that pay and was in even enough to repair the boat. This is the same reasoning that has pro athletes doing steroids, whatever it takes to win to hell with the consequences..
...must have missed this part of my post...
On 3/25/2016 at 9:26 PM, Logan S said:Not saying I would have done it,
Before I'm branded as a bass fisherman with a death wish....This tournament happened 3 years ago and this argument was had back then too. He screwed up, no question. The conditions changed and he wasn't ready for it. There were several others that made it up and back without incident, but since they didn't rack their boats across the rocks they didn't make the headlines.
Some of those guys take big risks, all I said was that I understand why. This kind of thing is not an isolated incident. At the Sabine tournament McClelland and Kriet made a 250 mile round trip run all the way to Houston each day, which included a trip across Galveston Bay. McClelland almost won, Kriet got knocked out by a tanker wave in Galveston Bay and ended up bombing because he missed weigh in. At the last Classic on the Louisiana Delta there were guys running 70+ miles in fog so thick they couldn't see past the bow of the boat, going solely on GPS. Any tournament on the Great Lakes has the potential to be dangerous. There are plenty more examples.... Some of those guys push the envelope. Always have and probably always will.
I don't willingly put myself, my co-anglers, or my boat in danger...
senile1 reply :
On 3/26/2016 at 12:19 AM, KHNC said:I would say his insurance repaired the boat. So maybe a 500.00 deductible . Progressive does full boat replacement as well. So , not much risk in the way of losing money on the boat itself. Life and limb is obviously a bigger risk.
There is additional lost money in increased insurance premiums.
Attila reply :
That's going to leave a mark...I'd just say no but that's me.
Kevin22 reply :
Sitting at a computer while at a comfy office job and saying how stupid it was to do what he did is not appropriate. He has to make money, it comes with risks, that's his job. I'm sure he has a top notch insurance plan for his boat, with a very low deductible since it is required to fish an elite event. The rocks below a dam are rounded off from water flow, little risk of puncturing the hull.. you just bounce off like he did. Him and his marshall were obviously braced for impact, you can see them holding on tightly, if they could have EASILY been tossed overboard then they would have been.
Oh, and there is no co-angler there... that was an elite event. That is a BASS hired marshal. If you don't want to take a risk, don't sign up to be a marshal on a river tournament.
Those of you saying you wouldn't take that risk, then don't. Its your choice. Just like all careers, there are safe ones and ones with risks. If you have a safe one, don't poke fun at people who take a risk.
KHNC reply :
On 3/26/2016 at 1:19 AM, senile1 said:There is additional lost money in increased insurance premiums.
True enough. However, on a boat policy it is very minimal. Not like points on a car insurance policy. If my boat is destroyed, any premium increase due to a total loss payout is gladly taken in stride by me.
senile1 reply :
On 3/26/2016 at 2:10 AM, KHNC said:True enough. However, on a boat policy it is very minimal. Not like points on a car insurance policy. If my boat is destroyed, any premium increase due to a total loss payout is gladly taken in stride by me.
I thought about that after I posted. It probably wouldn't be that big of a money drain for most of us.
IndianaFinesse reply :
Not under any conditions is that worth the risk! They are both lucky to not have been thrown out by the first rock. And this is coming from a guy who will fish during fourty mph winds in a rainstorm/snow storm during winter, and who's favorite place to fish you have to bring an open carry gun so nobody messes with you.
gulfcaptain reply :
On 3/26/2016 at 2:04 AM, Kevin22 said:Sitting at a computer while at a comfy office job and saying how stupid it was to do what he did is not appropriate. He has to make money, it comes with risks, that's his job. I'm sure he has a top notch insurance plan for his boat, with a very low deductible since it is required to fish an elite event. The rocks below a dam are rounded off from water flow, little risk of puncturing the hull.. you just bounce off like he did. Him and his marshall were obviously braced for impact, you can see them holding on tightly, if they could have EASILY been tossed overboard then they would have been.
Oh, and there is no co-angler there... that was an elite event. That is a BASS hired marshal. If you don't want to take a risk, don't sign up to be a marshal on a river tournament.
Those of you saying you wouldn't take that risk, then don't. Its your choice. Just like all careers, there are safe ones and ones with risks. If you have a safe one, don't poke fun at people who take a risk.
This is the best post. Thank you. We all do different things, these guys are doing it for a living. No different then the guys in Alaska that go out in the middle of a Storm warning to go crabbing. They know the risks, the marshals know the risks as well. We all do stupid things and have done stupid things. You think that's bad? What about Ikes boat sitting in the trees a few years back in Sabine?!!! Umm, I'll take bouncing off the rocks 100 times over above being in a boat running full speed and ending up on the bank.....odds of gettting thrown out are 100% greater then the odds of getting tossed out where he was trying to idle out of. I'm sure they both hand a conversation and new what was going on and the risks of bumping bottom before they departed. I don't think Ike and his Marshal had a conversation about ending up in the trees. As it says on Steet Outlaws, "Just because we're dumbazzes doesn't mean you should be one too. Don't try this at home".
MDBowHunter reply :
I climb ladders and walk aluminum walk boards for a living but there ain't no way I'm walking on them in the rain. I'd rather forget about that part of the job that day in lieu of falling and becoming a vegetable or worse being killed. Sorry Logan I wasn't trying to imply that you have a death wish. You just stated that you understand why they would do it, as where I don't really ünderstand where putting your life at risk for a few bucks is acceptable. The river they were in had a lot of safer areas that could've been fished that day.
Street outlaws may say that but have you ever seen them run in the rain or on a road that was dust covered. If the road ain't pretty much perfect they're not going up it. Some risks just arent worth taking.
gulfcaptain reply :
On 3/26/2016 at 2:42 AM, MDBowHunter said:
Street outlaws may say that but have you ever seen them run in the rain or on a road that was dust covered. If the road ain't pretty much perfect they're not going up it. Some risks just arent worth taking.
Like in the video, the water was up the days before but dropped, put him in that position where he had to get out of there. He ran up there to fish, decided it was time to go...wasn't worth it. So he left. He just got reminded on the way out by Mother Nature. Will he do that again? Probably not. Now he knows that that risk wasn't worth the reward. That's how we learn. Experience's give you knowledge to know better next time.
buzzed bait reply :
On 3/26/2016 at 3:06 AM, gulfcaptain said:Experience's give you knowledge to know better next time.
provided there is a next time.... which luckily in this case there was.
Disclaimer: Written from my computer at my "comfy office job" (if there is such a thing)
ward131 reply :
Just bad boat driving. IMHO
Wbeadlescomb reply :
If ya'll haven't been up there in a boat then you can't really comment on it. It's not nearly as bad as it looks. It's not as dangerous as getting your car every morning and driving down the interstate at 70mph
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