Think a big swing in the creek or main river channel up against the shore and you have a rocky bluff wall (lots of these on Cumberland and Dale Hollow). You could be a boat's length from the wall and be in 25+ feet of water.
How do you like to fish this during the different times of the year? And...GO!
JIG. flip to the wall keep the bail open until the bait hits the bottom or a shelf. engage reel and hold on
On 1/12/2015 at 2:07 AM, smallieking said:JIG. flip to the wall keep the bail open until the bait hits the bottom or a shelf. engage reel and hold on
Awesome - thanks! And very interesting - so in this case you would jig using a spinning rod? I've never used a jig on a spinning setup before. MH action, probably?
An excellent bait for steep Bluff and any time you want to fish a drop bait the Terminator Twin Spin Spinnerbait is a solid choice.
A craw or a grub make a nice trailer.
It's not a bait a lot of anglers reach for - that doesn't mean it doesn't work and it's pretty easy to fish.
A-Jay
Topwater.
On 1/12/2015 at 2:27 AM, andrew_t_moran said:Awesome - thanks! And very interesting - so in this case you would jig using a spinning rod? I've never used a jog on a spinning setup before. MH action, probably?
No, he doesn't mean spinning rod. It is HARD to find a spinning rod with the backbone for heavy wire hooks jigs have. He meens a highspeed (7:1:1 or faster) baitcast reel and keeping it on freespool at the end of the cast.
I like a dropshot and deep diving crainkbaits around bluff walls.
No matter what bait I choose I want to fish it parallel to the bluff.
On 1/12/2015 at 3:26 AM, Jig Man said:No matter what bait I choose I want to fish it parallel to the bluff.
What depth do you normally target, then? It seems like the boat would have to be pretty close to shore.
Jig, dropshot and Shakey
On 1/12/2015 at 2:46 AM, drodriguez said:No, he doesn't mean spinning rod. It is HARD to find a spinning rod with the backbone for heavy wire hooks jigs have. He meens a highspeed (7:1:1 or faster) baitcast reel and keeping it on freespool at the end of the cast.
Guess you missed where he said to leave the bail open when the jig is dropping.
On 1/12/2015 at 2:46 AM, drodriguez said:No, he doesn't mean spinning rod. It is HARD to find a spinning rod with the backbone for heavy wire hooks jigs have. He meens a highspeed (7:1:1 or faster) baitcast reel and keeping it on freespool at the end of the cast.
It's not that hard at all to find a spinning rod with enough backbone for jigs. It's no more difficult than finding a casting rod to do this.
On 1/12/2015 at 4:08 AM, Montanaro said:Guess you missed where he said to leave the bail open when the jig is dropping.
Lol. I guess I did. You'll probably still be better off with a casting set up though... More control over the fish, superior control during the cast. Easier to find the combos. Just saying. Only trying to help.
There are very few things that fish love more than abrupt depth-change,
but a long running bluff can be too much of a good thing.
For this reason, I'll pass up much of the bluff, fishing at the beginning of the bluff,
the sharpest juts and deepest nooks along the bluff, and the end of the bluff
As for lure selection, that usually has to wait until my wife boats the first fish
I like Mister Hottle's approach (topwaters):
Active fish are attracted to vertical drop-offs, where they can trap their prey.
In turn, topwater lures tend to attract active fish, and if a fish doesn't respond....well...he's just a "bluff"
Roger
As Roger says irregularities are the key. Bouncing a jig or t-rigged plastic down a bluff wall will often find shelves and fish. Focusing on transitions where shear rock turns to gravel or looking for patches of green areas where grass has taken root is another good bet. Large chunks of rock at the base of the wall is another. Some of my biggest fish have come by finding the sweet spots on bluffs.
On the Ozark lakes I use to catch lots of fish on bluffs with Texas rigged Jelly worms. I havent been to any of those lakes for years . Like the video shows, the bait has to drop straight down. On my home lake , which is always stained to muddy , bluff fishing is tougher but I fish them the same way.Top waters can be good on cloudy days . Chuggers can work well on sunny days with a lot of wind.
I have some that when the bow is touching shore, the stern depth finder says 40 ft. I like to drop long worms (10-12 inches) with very little weight. They don't usually make it to the bottom before something picks it up.
I like tubes/grubs (on lead heads and spinning gear), drop shot, and a lipless crank. Want each lure to fall or get the bottom as close to the wall virtually touching every time.
My favorite way would probably be a shakyhead or jig, but there's a ton of different ways I've caught fish off bluff walls, they're one of my favorite pieces of structure/cover to fish.
Tube or a jig. I try and get it as close as possible to the wall and just let it fall on its own with a free spool.
I like a shaky head in this scenario the most. Coming in a close second would be a jig with a bulky trailer.
are you joking? A flipping jigs isn't going to be good on almost ANY spinning rod. Thats not what spinning rods are for.On 1/12/2015 at 4:31 AM, 5fishlimit said:It's not that hard at all to find a spinning rod with enough backbone for jigs. It's no more difficult than finding a casting rod to do this.
On 1/12/2015 at 9:23 PM, ChrisWi said:are you joking? A flipping jigs isn't going to be good on almost ANY spinning rod. Thats not what spinning rods are for.
I've fished tournaments where I drew boaters who didn't fish baitcasters. They pitched and flipped with spinning rods just like a casting rod. It may not seem ideal but it certainly can be done, effectively at that. Spinning rods handle massive saltwater fish that even the biggest bass can't even get close to matching in speed or power also.
On 1/12/2015 at 9:23 PM, ChrisWi said:are you joking? A flipping jigs isn't going to be good on almost ANY spinning rod. Thats not what spinning rods are for.
I beg to differ. I have a MH/F spinning rod I've used for pitching/flipping jigs.
Ive used spinning gear for pitching. It will pitch farther than a caster. I dont utilize then enough .
You can cast, flip, or pitch with a spinning, baitcast, or zebco. All it takes is a little practice.
To answer the OP through, I would bank a all-terrain jig off the rocks and let it fall slowly to the bottom and dance that puppy around in a nice slow retrieve.
Another option is maybe a whacky rigged sinko to let that thing squirm and dance as it drops. Most of the bluff's in my area are steep rock with hardwoods above them. Why not imitated a worm or caterpillar that may have fallen from a tree, or a bug that fell from the rocks.
I've also had luck throwing a dark colored spinnerbait at an angle and running it sorta parallel for a while to the rock. If the fish are loaded up around this bluff, they are gonna be active.
On 1/12/2015 at 9:23 PM, ChrisWi said:are you joking? A flipping jigs isn't going to be good on almost ANY spinning rod. Thats not what spinning rods are for.
I drew a boater in the one bfl tounament I fished at grand lake that could skip, flip, and pitch a jig with a spinning rod. Made it look so freaking easy. Any set up can be versatile if you practice and apply yourself.
I really like the weighted hooks and swing-jigs along rock drop-offs....I imagine its because the flukes/beavers/worms, etc are falling horizontally most of the way down -- I toss them into the side of the bluff and let them slide down...jerking off the rocks occasionally until they hit bottom...rinse, lather, repeat
I put my boat right next to the bluff and throw either a sp jerkbait or a shad rap. Keep it in the strike zone. I seldom throw a bottom bouncer anymore. If i throw a t rig it will be a weightless senko. Good luck and let us know how you do this year with all of these.
On 1/12/2015 at 9:23 PM, ChrisWi said:are you joking? A flipping jigs isn't going to be good on almost ANY spinning rod. Thats not what spinning rods are for.
A lot of folks do it. You get a more vertical fall from your jig when using spinning gear rather than baitcast gear. You can get the same effect with baitcast gear by pulling line off manually but usually it will fall in an arc from where the bait hits the water. I've done it before to get the bait to land right at the base of a grass bed.
On 1/12/2015 at 3:18 AM, slonezp said:
I fish the walls a lot different than this guy with a jig. I'll have to try that method. I have success keeping the rod tip up and dragging the jig down the wall. I try to keep in contact with the wall as much as possible. It seems like he is trying to get reaction strikes on the fall more-so than the "pecking" strike of a bass hitting the jig as it rests.