I'm guessing #2 or #3 but that is all it is.....a guess. I don't really know how the sizes are rated. Anyone with help?
I like the concept of this rig too and put one together using a Gamakatsu EWG hook, the lighter-wire version rather than the heavier Superline. #2 rings worked fine.
One thing that occurs to me about using a standard split ring rather than buying the hook with the welded ring, is that we have to be mindful of the line tie-off point - we don't want the knot to be snugged up in the split of the ring.
Another thought is to use a #10 snap swivel rather than the lower ring. This will not only expedite changing weights. Taking off the weight leaves you with the open snap to attach to your rod's hook keeper while not in use. This snap swivel does lengthen the entire rig, of course . . . I can't wait for my favorite bass water to open here in MA so I can try out the variations on this innovative rig.
The split ring size would vary depending on what size hook/bait/weight you are using. Just get a selection of split rings and give it a whirl. I am!
I just put some together a few weeks ago...I put #2 on it.
I like the idea of a snap swivel on it though.
I'd like to add another question to this...
What weights are you all using? I'm thinking about using a cylinder style drop shot weight... anyone found something better to use?
what is jika rig?
Quotewhat is jika rig?
http://www.google.com/search?q=jika+rig&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
I'm going to use #2 to the hook and #1 to the weight, seems to be the general consensus. If using a really large casting weight I'll probably go with 2-#2. I'll be using 1/2 oz. drop shot weights to start but found a guy who makes them in sizes from 1/32 to 5/8 oz. so I'll be sticking with that style for the most part. I may try some regular casting weights too but I like the slim drop shot idea and think tey will work for this rig best. Now I just have to aquire all the parts and start assembling some.
My attempt at a few Jika rigs.
Not bad. I like the colors.
On 2/7/2012 at 10:22 AM, aavery2 said:My attempt at a few Jika rigs.
Notice you put two split rings on there....any reason why 2 instead of just one?
On 2/7/2012 at 10:24 PM, grimlin said:Notice you put two split rings on there....any reason why 2 instead of just one?
I just built it as close to the original design as I could, not sure if it would make any difference with only the one splitring or not, but thought I would like to fish it as close to original and then may make modifications after that.
A snap swivel is probably a weaker link than a split ring. A Duo Lock with a swivel added might be safer.
On 2/8/2012 at 12:42 AM, aavery2 said:I just built it as close to the original design as I could, not sure if it would make any difference with only the one splitring or not, but thought I would like to fish it as close to original and then may make modifications after that.
The first ring is the welded ring that on the Gamakatsu Superline EWG hook:
If the hook doesn't have the welded ring, the second split is probably redundant, but doesn't look like it would hurt.
Has anyone fished this and a Biffle Hardhead? They seem similar but this rig looks like the bait would have even more free action.
I've fished something similar to the hardhead, and they are different.
I agree that the second splitring may be redundant, sure would be allot quicker to not have to mess with the second splitring. I made a change to the way I had them originally built, and changed the #2 splitring on the weight to a #1, cleans it up a little , gonna go with this and see how they do.
I have ordered some of the Gammi's with the welded ring, they will be the next change.
I like the looks of this. River current would make a bait go crazy with this rig. Do you think the second split ring on the weight would weaken your knot easily?
On 2/8/2012 at 10:48 AM, Brandon K. said:I like the looks of this. River current would make a bait go crazy with this rig. Do you think the second split ring on the weight would weaken your knot easily?
Honestly, I don't know, I don't see the knot and splitring coming in contact with each other that much, but it is sure something that will have to be checked.
On 2/8/2012 at 10:48 AM, Brandon K. said:I like the looks of this. River current would make a bait go crazy with this rig. Do you think the second split ring on the weight would weaken your knot easily?
That's the main reason why i want to try it...My thoughts exactly...the river current will really help. Since I do a lot of river fishing,I had that in mind.
On 2/8/2012 at 12:23 PM, grimlin said:That's the main reason why i want to try it...My thoughts exactly...the river current will really help. Since I do a lot of river fishing,I had that in mind.
Off topic, but take a look at the butt dragger heads baits: http://www.confidencebaits.net/index.html. They were designed by my friend Jeff Little for fishing the Susquehanna River. They overcome many of the pitfalls of bait eating rivers.
My Dad used to fish this rig for carp with what I will call a pencil lead no snag type of weight. Not sure if that is what the weight is called. He would catch giant carp and never had trouble with line breakage by the split ring. The weight would drag through the silt, not get snagged, and would stir up the soft bottom and attract the fish. I have some he made back when in a tackle box he left me, never thought to use them for bass.
Got some made up. About 20 so far. Hooks are Eagle Claw Lazer Sharp.....5/0, 3/0, and 1/0. Weights are 1/2 oz., 3/8, 3/16, and 1/8. #2 split ring to the hook and #1 to the weight.
Those turned out very nice, I did change the original design of mine to something more similar to yours, can't wait to get these in the water.
Awesome! That bug looks lethal.
On 2/27/2012 at 2:36 AM, catchnm said:Awesome! That bug looks lethal.
You did not see that thing, it doesn't exist and fish hate it...
Whipped a couple up; pretty simple and pretty cheap:
Can't see why those would not work.
Thats the same way I have mine. Im going too use a Duo Lock Snap to connect it to my line. So I dont have to worry about knot damage.
On 2/27/2012 at 2:23 AM, aavery2 said:Those turned out very nice, I did change the original design of mine to something more similar to yours, can't wait to get these in the water.
This looks real good. For you guys experimenting, I think you'll also find that skinny weights work best for this.
Check this one out. Jika using a snap to the weight. Got this pic from the web. I like the idea.
On 3/2/2012 at 10:10 PM, catchnm said:Check this one out. Jika using a snap to the weight. Got this pic from the web. I like the idea.
My only concern with these duolock snaps is that they make the overall rig less weedless. Since these will be dragged on the bottom, the snap will pick up lots of weeds when it gets warmer. Think about it, would you put a duolock snap in front of your texas rig or attached to the weight on the bottom of your drop shot rig?
Berkley Crosslock snaps would work better. I like the idea - adjust the weight to the situation, quickly.
The crosslock snaps would be my choice also.
Pretty cool going to have to get them a go where do you buy split rings at?
I am looking for #1 split rings for this rig. The Owner's at Tackle Warehouse only go down to #2. Any suggestions?
Here is how I did mine...
I used a swivel instead of a second split ring. Seems to work well for me
Thoughts?
Colored sinkers look neat. Where did you find those?
I use the #1 split rings for mine and a Mojo "rig saver" wire. If I get hung-up, it strips the weight and I at least get my hook back.
A single split ring for vertical hook eyes and double split ring for horizontal eyes like EWGs.
You can use just about any style weight for that matter, even a tungsten bullet weight.
Tried a few different styles of these and to be honest they all fished just fine. The one thing I did notice is that in my opinion the heavier weighted rigs 3/8 and 1/2 fished the best.
This is a picture of what I ended up with.
Thanks for the replies
On 6/14/2012 at 10:53 AM, aavery2 said:Tried a few different styles of these and to be honest they all fished just fine. The one thing I did notice is that in my opinion the heavier weighted rigs 3/8 and 1/2 fished the best.
This is a picture of what I ended up with.
These are nice.