Big Swimbait 2024
KentuckyDave reply :
What would be a good hard swimbait to start out with? I cannot afford those swimbaits that are well over $100. I probably could afford $50 and under. Any suggestions would be wonderful.
Thanks in advance!
MarkH024 reply :
Mattlures Hardgill, Got em Coach Gill, or a Spro Bbz1 6".
basshole8190 reply :
Cl8 clacker swimbait or a hudd 68 weedless or two or the bbz are a few good starter lures or a 7-9" ms slammer will get your feet wet in the swimbait game
CPBassFishing reply :
For your budget, I would skip the cheap chinese injected plastic baits like the bbz1 and go for any of the following-
7" or 9" MS Slammer
Hardgill
8" Huddleston
Huddleston 68 special
If you want to splurge a little go for an 8" triple trout.
WRB reply :
Depends on what you think a big swimbait is? 8" to 12" swimbaits weighing 2 to 5 oz would fall into the big bait category. Very few quality hard swimmers are on the market under $50. You also need a rod/reel combo to cast the big swimmers.
What type of tackle do you plan on using?
Tom
KentuckyDave reply :
I am sorry I didn't specify what I thought was big... I'm just looking for a 5-7" bait not any of the gigantic ones sorry for the confusion
WRB reply :
No problem, just trying to recommend a lure that you can cast and retrieve with the rod/reel you have??On 1/27/2014 at 1:43 AM, KentuckyDave said:I am sorry I didn't specify what I thought was big... I'm just looking for a 5-7" bait not any of the gigantic ones sorry for the confusion
Tom
ClackerBuzz reply :
get a couple cheap and nice baits. why? nothing worse than backlasing an expensive swimbait and watching it sail off into the sunset. think of it for more of a casting learning curve than catching fish. use the cheap ones to learn now to cast heavy lures. the bass will still hit them. with heavier baits (2 oz and up takes most bass anglers out of their comfort zone; catfish experience obviously will help here) you really have to dial in ur drag and pay attention to ur casting strenghts/weaknesses (casting into wind and back handed casts usually aren't most guys strengths).
braid cuts like butter during a back lash so using co-poly or mono as ur mainline and/or as a very long leader helps a lot as a backlash shock absorber
RyneB reply :
Hudd 68 special
kanasbassfisher08 reply :
hudd 68 specials are mentioned alot because they are as good as everyone says they are i throw them in ks lol but also look at the bull shads they are a hard bait and are amazing just cus they way the swim slow and fast or on the pause. the hudd 8 inch and the 68 specials have the same size tale but as they sink it looks like they are swimming to the bottom any other baits cant say that and thats why i have them.
mnbassman23 reply :
Lots of good recommendations so far. Couple other baits would be R2S S-waver, Bull Shad, Decoy Hydra tail, Savage gear glide swimmer, and Black Dog g2 shellcracker. The BD g2 shellcracker is only 4" but is a good bluegill profile wake bait if you fish lakes were bluegill are prevalent. Those baits range from 12-50 $.
Bluebasser86 reply :
S waver, the 6 3/4" version
7" MS Slammer
5 or 6 inch Bull Shad slow sink or floater
Hardgill
The BBZ is a popular bait and effective for some but I had very lackluster results after lots of hours on the water with it.
gobig reply :
On 1/27/2014 at 1:08 AM, CPBassFishing said:For your budget, I would skip the cheap chinese injected plastic baits like the bbz1 and go for any of the following-
7" or 9" MS Slammer
Hardgill
8" Huddleston
Huddleston 68 special
If you want to splurge a little go for an 8" triple trout.
Don't get caught up into the hype that you have to spend $100 or more on a bait for it to be good. That's the biggest load of crap there is. There are plenty of inexpensive baits that are excellent and some of those are made in china. I have to say that the BBZ's are fish catchers. Another amazing bait made in china is the s-waiver.
Now to try to answer the original question I'll just give a list of hard baits under $60 I can't see myself without. MS slammer, s-waiver, shell cracker (wood floater), punker (wood), 8in Triple trout, 8in BBZ floater, 6in BBZ slow sink, Matt lures hard gill slow sink.
Primus reply :
On 1/27/2014 at 3:26 PM, gobig said:Don't get caught up into the hype that you have to spend $100 or more on a bait for it to be good. That's the biggest load of crap there is. There are plenty of inexpensive baits that are excellent and some of those are made in china. I have to say that the BBZ's are fish catchers. Another amazing bait made in china is the s-waiver.
Now to try to answer the original question I'll just give a list of hard baits under $60 I can't see myself without. MS slammer, s-waiver, shell cracker (wood floater), punker (wood), 8in Triple trout, 8in BBZ floater, 6in BBZ slow sink, Matt lures hard gill slow sink.
Good post, there are a lot of good swimbaits that are affordable and produce well.
CTGalloway21 reply :
Bullshad is the best
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
For 55 bucks, buy a Mattlures Hardgill and start catching fish.
I'll respectfully disagree on the "Bullshad is best" assessment.
J Francho reply :
I saw this thread, and had a WWWD moment, lol.
kanasbassfisher08 reply :
true datOn 1/27/2014 at 11:49 PM, CTGalloway21 said:Bullshad is the best
VolFan reply :
If I were you (and I'm not), I would pick up an MS Slammer and a Hudd 68 (ROF 12, weedless if you'd like). Mini Slammer will get more bites, but go bigger if you're feeling froggy. Those would cover the entire water column, and catch you some nice fish. If you look around a little, you should be able to get both for under your $50 total.
Bullshads are just there...there is really no good or bad.
basshole8190 reply :
On 1/28/2014 at 7:11 AM, VolFan said:If I were you (and I'm not), I would pick up an MS Slammer and a Hudd 68 (ROF 12, weedless if you'd like). Mini Slammer will get more bites, but go bigger if you're feeling froggy. Those woould cover the entire water column, and catch you some nice fish. If you look around a little, you should be able to get both for under your $50 total.
Bullshads are just there...there is really no good or bad.
the 9" slammer flat out gets bit! 2Lbers to 7lbers hit mine regularly.
the hudd 68 weedless is quickly be coming one of my favorite baits. i find myself throwing it when i used to throw a jig. they excell for me in cooler water temps fished SLOW.
Although there is a lot of drama arounnd Mike Bucca and his company my 6" bullshads are a very good producer for me. i have yet to get bit on my 9" but i have confidence it will get bit.
MacP reply :
Savage Gear Line Thru and 3D Real Trouts look quality. I've not fished them yet but I've got several now waiting. It's too cold out!
gulfcaptain reply :
I started with the Kopper's bluegill wakebaits, they are about 4" and weigh just over an ounce. The MS Mini Slammer would be a step up from there. I know everyone is saying the 68 hudd, but you want hard baits. Savage Gear is making some affordable swimbaits, check them out on TW. But beware, it's addictive as I'm sure you have read on many posts.
Talonman reply :
Black Dog baits, G2 Shell-Cracker.
J Francho reply :
Here's my list of starters, and you really don't need any special tackle to throw them.
Mini Slammer
G2 Shellcracker
6" BBZ-1
Floating baits will quickly show you the calling power of big baits, and when you build confidence, then you're ready for a rod and reel for bigger stuff:
Hard Gill
High Power Herring
Hudd 68
It's also time to start fishing sinking baits.
CTGalloway21 reply :
On 1/28/2014 at 12:10 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:For 55 bucks, buy a Mattlures Hardgill and start catching fish.
I'll respectfully disagree on the "Bullshad is best" assessment.
i guess it depends on location. we are shad dominant. You are probably bluegill dominant.
Primus reply :
The River to Sea Live Eye Bottom Walker is often overlooked but is an excellent bait for slow rolling in deep water, I like the 150 size which run about 7$ for a 2 pack. The 3:16 lure company 6.5" Rising Son is another proven fish catcher.
Comfortably Numb reply :
I am new to larger hard swims. I have a Triple trout 5" Stubby being custom painted, Black Dog G2 Shellcrack, two BD regular Shellcrackers, and three Bull Shads. All are top notch quality baits.
I was using a River2Sea V joint minnow 110 deep diver today and caught a couple bass on it. Not really considered a large swimbait but it looks bigger than it is with a rather fat belly. Swimming action is great and it suspends at about 8'. I swam it real slow in the 42* water with plenty of pauses. Seem like a pretty well made bait too.
Another guy fishing today caught a 5-6 on a rattle trap that had a 10" bass in its mouth. They are just starting to feed in Virginia with a couple warm days we had. Wonder how that Mattlures Bass would do?
ClackerBuzz reply :
what's the deal with Mattlures? virtually every Hard gill is out on their site, along with many others.
restructuring? lawsuit? extended fishing vacation 
J Francho reply :
You'll probably have to get one on the used market. They turn up once in a while. Good luck!
basshole8190 reply :
On 2/23/2014 at 9:44 AM, ClackerBuzz said:what's the deal with Mattlures? virtually every Hard gill is out on their site, along with many others.
restructuring? lawsuit? extended fishing vacation
matt build up stock in between releases so he's probably making more as we speak. shoot him an email on his site. he's a really nice guy. should give you an answer pretty quickly.
gripnrip reply :
On 2/23/2014 at 9:44 AM, ClackerBuzz said:what's the deal with Mattlures? virtually every Hard gill is out on their site, along with many others.
restructuring? lawsuit? extended fishing vacation
It is the time of the year people get there fix on buying baits! Guys in the North are staring at the ice. They are doing their fishing by buying! If I was a betting man he's running low due to purchases lately. I was browsing his site earlier in the week and he had just about everything in stock.
Dwight Hottle reply :
Matt is such a nice guy when I ordered my first hard gill from him he included a soft gill no charge.
Win win for me.
bassbro420 reply :
On 1/27/2014 at 1:25 AM, WRB said:Depends on what you think a big swimbait is? 8" to 12" swimbaits weighing 2 to 5 oz would fall into the big bait category. Very few quality hard swimmers are on the market under $50. You also need a rod/reel combo to cast the big swimmers.
What type of tackle do you plan on using?
Tom
2-5 oz are on the smaller side. big baits are anywhere from say 6-10+ oz
WRB reply :
On 9/25/2015 at 8:11 PM, bassbro420 said:2-5 oz are on the smaller side. big baits are anywhere from say 6-10+ oz[/quot see post #7, the OP never followed up and the thread is now over 18 months old.Tom
Mattlures reply :
On 2/23/2014 at 9:44 AM, ClackerBuzz said:what's the deal with Mattlures? virtually every Hard gill is out on their site, along with many others.
restructuring? lawsuit? extended fishing vacation
I know this thread is old but I just saw this. The reason most of my hard baits always seem to be sold out is this. It takes me a long time to make hard baits. I do them in batches of about 50-300. Usually when I finish a batch they sell out in a day or two with the exception of a few less desireable colors or sink rates. So If you miss a release then it seems like they are always out of stock.
68camaro reply :
On 9/27/2015 at 4:25 PM, Mattlures said:I know this thread is old but I just saw this. The reason most of my hard baits always seem to be sold out is this. It takes me a long time to make hard baits. I do them in batches of about 50-300. Usually when I finish a batch they sell out in a day or two with the exception of a few less desireable colors or sink rates. So If you miss a release then it seems like they are always out of stock.
Matt,I do notice your Bluegill hardballs are out of stock, when will you be making new batch?
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 1/29/2014 at 3:35 AM, MacP said:Savage Gear Line Thru and 3D Real Trouts look quality. I've not fished them yet but I've got several now waiting. It's too cold out!
they work ! practice on different retrieves and find some that work on your waters and they will get bit !!! Savage Gear offers some of the best baits for the money , throw in some Hudds to your swimbait box along with a couple of Savage Gear glide swimmers and your sure to catch some good quality fish !!!
Primus reply :
On 9/27/2015 at 8:04 PM, 68camaro said:Matt,I do notice your Bluegill hardballs are out of stock, when will you be making new batch?
x2 , the world needs more Hardgills 
Mattlures reply :
very soon
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