I have never used them but do all of them float? and can they be used for dropshot, and shakey head set-up ?
Yes. And no.
I don't even know what a trick worm is any more. Used to be that I could be relatively sure you were talking about a skinny Zoom worm with not a lot going on at the tail...maybe a little bulge... around six and a half inches long....didn't float...but the tail sank slowly and wiggled on the way down. I fished them on shakey heads and weightless mostly, though sometimes weighted wacky. Nowadays, you can find a worm any thickness from about 1/8" up to probably 3/4"....and any length from 2 1/2" to over 12". So, there's litterally dozens (hundreds?) of skinny worms between 5 1/2 and 8 inches....some float, some don't...some are neutrally buoyant...so, the answer is that you can get a worm that will do whatever you want in all likelihood.
Some sink and some float. I don't know how to tell the difference in the packages. I usually use black and they sink at the same rate as a green pumpkin yum dinger. I know this because I was curious about the action and fall rate of some baits and I did a tank test. They work great on a shakeyhead and are effective when drop shotted too.
From my understanding The Original trick worm is supposed to float. It says Original on the package, the ones that have Super Salt Plus on the package will sink. I don't know how much the salt would affect the action on a shaky head, maybe someone else will chime in on that that.
With that being said, I ordered a few packages from TW under The Original Trick Worm selection and I got some that were Original and some that had salt. Haven't decided whether to send them back.
Joe
On 1/22/2020 at 2:29 AM, 5/0 said:With that being said, I ordered a few packages from TW under The Original Trick Worm selection and I got some that were Original and some that had salt.
My mistake! Just looked at TW site and the category states only Trick Worm. So I guess it's a crap shoot on what you get. Sorry for the misinformation!
The actual Trick Worm by Zoom doesn't float, at least not rigged on a worm hook. But it's almost neutrally buoyant and when retrieved like a jerkbait, it will come near the surface. So if you cast out and let it sink, it sinks really slowly and the tail wiggles a bit. I've probably caught more fish on it this way than the jerkbait retrieve.
In my bathtub, non of the Zoom Trickworms float at all and seem to have more or less the same sink rate. If you want a slightly more buoyant version, the Netbait T-Mac is a great variant that has a little less salt then the Zoom ones and is made from a slightly softer plastic.
Zoom trick worms don’t float but I have a lot of hand poured trick worms that do. They both catch a lot of fish, drop shot shakey head Texas rig wacky rig, even jig or chatterbait trailers, it’s good for all of it
From the Zoom website:
"The Trick Worm was the original floating worm, deadly for twitching and deadsticking weightless for a stealth approach to shallow water bass, but in recent years it has become the gold standard for so much more. Savvy pros have realized that its straight, slender profile is perfect on the back of a shakey head or Carolina rigged when fish have seen every other lure under the sun. With its subtle approach and wide range of color options, there’s a Trick Worm for every situation."
It says it floats but I've never had one that would float with a hook. That said, it's in my top 3 plastic baits of the last 20 years.
Trick worms make an excellent wacky rigged bait. They have a tremendous action with the slightest jerk of the rod. They are much more flexible then a stick bait, and hold up under attack better then a senko. When things are tough I will often throw these. They have saved many a tough day.
I use the zoom trick worms. They are in my “ circle of trust “ baits . I catch a lot of fish on them using mostly the watermelon red or junebug colors..They don’t float with a Texas rig, and that’s all I use. They are fairly buoyant though ( they don’t sink too fast ) and fish like them both with dead-sticking or on a slow to moderate retrieve. Biggest fish I’ve caught on one is 6.3.
On 1/22/2020 at 6:11 AM, fishwizzard said:In my bathtub, non of the Zoom Trickworms float at all and seem to have more or less the same sink rate. If you want a slightly more buoyant version, the Netbait T-Mac is a great variant that has a little less salt then the Zoom ones and is made from a slightly softer plastic.
+1 ... The T-Mac is a winner for sure . Another "Trick Worm" great for shaky head is the : GrendeBass Air Tail Wiggler Worm 6.5" (at TW) along with the Zman Finesse worm 7" and the Strike King 3X Plastic 7" worm (same thing) .The Davis baits Shaky Worm is also nice . Lastly , the Berkley Power Bait Bottom Hopper made famous by Larry Nixon is a great shaky head worm .
Gbassman, may I make a suggestion?
Purchase a pack of trick worms and swamp crawlers and do the following:
Fill your bathtub with water.
Rig both the trick worm and swamp crawler on a shaky head jig head of your choice.
Place jig head and worm on bottom of tub.
See which ones float.
And you can just float the trickand swamp crawler worms in the bathtub water (or in your sink) to see which ones float.
I use the jig heads from MegaStrike and let me tell you what I did. I took one of the MegaStrike jig heads and a trick worm to my local indoor swimming pool and rigged it as I would if I was fishing.
I dropped the jig head into the pool to see if the trick worm would stand up. I went to the bottom of the pool to see what happened. The Zoom trick worm stood at attention with the jig head on the bottom.
So you use the bathtub tricks and you will find out quickly which trick and swamp crawler worms float and which ones sink.
Have fun and let us have your results.
When you are playing in the tub don't forget the rubber duck.
The true ZOOM Trick Worm has been a real confidence bait for me. It can be wacky rigged and produce but it shines on a 1/4 ounce shaky head. All others are strait tail finesse worms. For those who tried a density water test in your bath tubs, mine did the same in the toilet.
On 1/23/2020 at 2:46 AM, Sam said:Gbassman, may I make a suggestion?
Purchase a pack of trick worms and swamp crawlers and do the following:
Fill your bathtub with water.
Rig both the trick worm and swamp crawler on a shaky head jig head of your choice.
Place jig head and worm on bottom of tub.
See which ones float.
And you can just float the trickand swamp crawler worms in the bathtub water (or in your sink) to see which ones float.
I use the jig heads from MegaStrike and let me tell you what I did. I took one of the MegaStrike jig heads and a trick worm to my local indoor swimming pool and rigged it as I would if I was fishing.
I dropped the jig head into the pool to see if the trick worm would stand up. I went to the bottom of the pool to see what happened. The Zoom trick worm stood at attention with the jig head on the bottom.
So you use the bathtub tricks and you will find out quickly which trick and swamp crawler worms float and which ones sink.
Have fun and let us have your results.
Do you not own a bucket?? Haha
A zoom trick worm in either all black or junebug with a chartreuse tail are some of my favorite soft plastics. I wouldn't say they float but the tail will semi float. These do not have salt in them. Usually texas rig them with a 1/8 - 3/16 oz weight and a 4/0 worm hook.
I don't generally play with them in the tub though
good worms, I use them on a shakey head.
On 1/23/2020 at 5:27 AM, TnRiver46 said:Do you not own a bucket?? Haha
Yes, but it is easier to see the action of the plastic in the bathtub.
Dont forget the Neko rig
On 1/23/2020 at 5:27 AM, TnRiver46 said:Do you not own a bucket?? Haha
+1 ... A 2.5 gal. bucket of water (or kitchen sink with a stopper) is the deal to see which worms float tail up on a shaky head - you can even practice pitching to the bucket as well !! Indoor pools are best used for skipping under diving boards (lol !!)
A trick worm doesn't necessarily need to stand straight up (although it doesn't hurt) to work well on a shaky head . I believe the drag / slight lift or pop will get a basses attention before the tail goes neutral or starts to sink slightly. *Member Team9nine has discussed his shaky head success here with trick worms that did not float tail up all that well .
Good advice.....and while you're at it, take a few more minutes to test all your jerkbaits, too -- winter's the time to get them sporting the attitude you want....just don't forget that water temp is a factor
Zoom trick worm, the last time I checked on clear plastic bucket not bath tub(I only play with my wife in bathtub not plastic, ????) the diamond shape tail end would move up with just a little bit of twisting and slowly sink down, the body stay on bottom even with 2/0ewg hook. I poked in small section of sealed cocktail straw 1/2” at the tail (act as air chamber) and the tail float right up.
And Green pumpkin magic is the best.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:34 PM, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:And Green pumpkin magic is the best.
This has been my experience as well.
It's almost too bad, they have so many fun colors, but GP-Magic works most every time.
I've been using Zoom Trick Worms more and more since my supply of 6 inch Jelly Worms is dwindling . June bug has been my mainstay since I ran out of Black Grape and Tequilla Sunrise jelly worms .
About the Trick Worm by Zoom, don't be afraid of the bubble gum color when using the "floating worm" or wacky rigged presentations. It looks like a gimmick, but I can assure you it's not. For me, it and the limetreuse color outfish all the other colors by a long shot. If you go into WalMart in the spring, bubble gum is the color they'll be out of. They won't even stock limetreuse. It's one of the best kept secrets in bass fishing. I've been so many times to find the store is out of bubble gum color that I just order them online now. This color works in the Super Fluke as well.
Favorite way to fish a Trick Worm. Springtime - Early Summer. Weightless, weedless on a Gama Offset G-Lock 4/0 hook. Candy Bug color with the tail dipped in chartreuse Spike-It.
Fish it at night where they’re shallow oftentimes. Walk the bank and throw it parallel to shore. You will get a lot of bites on the initial fall.
Then I’ll let it sit for about 5 seconds and slowly bring it back with a twitch, twitch, pause - repeat cadence - exactly like a fluke.
I’ve had some explosive strikes at my feet using this technique. Exciting way to fish a plastic worm
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/trick-worm-floating-worm.html
On 1/24/2020 at 2:25 AM, the reel ess said:About the Trick Worm by Zoom, don't be afraid of the bubble gum color when using the "floating worm" or wacky rigged presentations. It looks like a gimmick, but I can assure you it's not. For me, it and the limetreuse color outfish all the other colors by a long shot. If you go into WalMart in the spring, bubble gum is the color they'll be out of. They won't even stock limetreuse. It's one of the best kept secrets in bass fishing. I've been so many times to find the store is out of bubble gum color that I just order them online now. This color works in the Super Fluke as well.
When I first moved to TN, I donated a bunch of money to guys throwing pink trick worms on shakey heads.
Now the big thing is using pink flukes on a damiki rig
This guy does a couple different tests with the original, super salty and magnum trick worms.
Quite a different response when the bait is on a shakey head
On 1/24/2020 at 2:25 AM, the reel ess said:This color works in the Super Fluke as well.
I caught a 7 3/4 pounder on a bubblegum fluke.
On 1/23/2020 at 10:25 PM, Choporoz said:Good advice.....and while you're at it, take a few more minutes to test all your jerkbaits, too -- winter's the time to get them sporting the attitude you want....just don't forget that water temp is a factor
I was tossing a rapala husky jerk off the bank the other day. The nose was pointing slightly down but it was suspending perfectly for as long as you would leave it there .
Had a rookie question about the trick worm. One side of it is kind of flat. When T-Rigging it where should the flat side of it be compared to the hook? If you were to wacky rig it would you want the flat side facing up the sky or down?
On 1/24/2020 at 11:51 PM, michael1 said:Had a rookie question about the trick worm. One side of it is kind of flat. When T-Rigging it where should the flat side of it be compared to the hook? If you were to wacky rig it would you want the flat side facing up the sky or down?
Flat side down for slower fall and better presentation.
I use soft plastics mostly, and am a Trick worm fan, too. T-rigged weighted, weightless or shaky head. BTW, some of the other old timers will remember the Original Crème worm, which the Trick worm greatly resembles, from the early 60's. The C worm and Zoom's Finesse worm are similar in size and shape.
The C worm's plastic was a little more firm, too. You can still get the Crème worm today. The Crème worm was one of the first "purple worms". I caught a bunch of stream smallmouth back then with a weightless purple Crème worm, strung on an exposed straight shank No. 1 Aberdeen light-wire gold hook.
My favorite colors are Black w red flake, watermelon w chart tail, black, black grape, and green pumpkin.
I fish them on picasso shakey heads, and weightless on 2/0 hook.
On 1/22/2020 at 1:25 AM, Choporoz said:Yes. And no.
I don't even know what a trick worm is any more. Used to be that I could be relatively sure you were talking about a skinny Zoom worm with not a lot going on at the tail...maybe a little bulge... around six and a half inches long....didn't float...but the tail sank slowly and wiggled on the way down. I fished them on shakey heads and weightless mostly, though sometimes weighted wacky. Nowadays, you can find a worm any thickness from about 1/8" up to probably 3/4"....and any length from 2 1/2" to over 12". So, there's litterally dozens (hundreds?) of skinny worms between 5 1/2 and 8 inches....some float, some don't...some are neutrally buoyant...so, the answer is that you can get a worm that will do whatever you want in all likelihood.
This is so true. The term "Trick Worm" is now used for any work that resembles the Zoom Trick Worm. It is the same for stick baits how everyone calls them "Senkos"
For the OP. Yes the "Original" Trick Worm will float the "Super Salt" will not.