If you use digital scales to weight a fish (especially the kind with the "curved hook" part you slide under the gills to hold) do you ever use the lip grippers and then weight them like that? Similar to how they do on MLF? I hate hanging a nice fish by their gills and was thinking about doing this method using my pair of Fish Grips and my Berkley scale....
Kinda Sorta like this
I actually like that idea in the picture. I have a BogaGrip and was looking at digital scales but most have the hook and I wasn't sure what the best way was to measure weight. I had heard the side of the gill, or piercing the lip or even putting the fish in a bag and putting the bag handles on the hook (but this sounded bad for the protective slime coating). This would let me use the Boga and use a hook weight.
I do a lot of times. My fish grips weigh .19 lb....this year. I coulda swore they weighed .21 last year...they were dieting over the winter, I suppose.
On 3/22/2016 at 4:12 AM, blckshirt98 said:I actually like that idea in the picture. I have a BogaGrip and was looking at digital scales but most have the hook and I wasn't sure what the best way was to measure weight. I had heard the side of the gill, or piercing the lip or even putting the fish in a bag and putting the bag handles on the hook (but this sounded bad for the protective slime coating). This would let me use the Boga and use a hook weight.
i mean i don't weigh every fish, but the ones i do i weigh because i think they're chunky and i'd like to know for sure what they weigh. BUT i feel like putting that hook in the gill could somehow do some damage. seems like this would be a much better solution to me, and i already have both ingredients to make it happen...
On 3/22/2016 at 4:24 AM, Choporoz said:I do a lot of times. My fish grips weigh .19 lb....this year. I coulda swore they weighed .21 last year...they were dieting over the winter, I suppose.
LOL, see i need an excuse as to why it didn't weight as much as it should have!!
do you tare or zero out your scales when you do it or just always know to subtract the weight of the grips from the overall weight?
I use these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Electronic-Hanging-Fishing-Digital-Pocket-Weight-Hook-Scale-40kg-10g-/201182152447?hash=item2ed76406ff:g:vxYAAOSwnDZUKd7b
and just subtract the weight...only because I never figured out how to make the tare weight persistent. I'd have to weigh the fish grips again each time I turn it on.
I bought three of them. One's in kayak bag, one's in boat bag and a spare...
Boga user here. They're darn accurate and
so much better than the gill hooks. I've lost
two digi-scales to Davey Jones' Locker, both
with the hooks.
Miss the second one I lost, but love my Boga.
Only thing I miss is the digital precision. But
my 15lb Boga is good to the 1/4 pound, so if
the fish is just over the 3 1/4 mark, I'll say it was
a hair over 3 1/4 pounds...
I still have an eye on digital scales, and will
probably pull the trigger on another one in
the future.
I have some grips for that very purpose.
You don't hang them from the gills... they hang from the bottom jaw in front of the gill opening.
oe
I HATE seeing anything done in the gill area. Whether it be some one weighing a fish or picking up a huge catfish by the gill area. Most scales have a tare option and even if yours doesn't just subtract your grips from your final weight. Grips are the way to go.
On 3/22/2016 at 5:47 AM, OkobojiEagle said:You don't hang them from the gills... they hang from the bottom jaw in front of the gill opening.
oe
X2. And then the fish goes back in the water. If the fish looks distressed or slightly bleeding, then I leave the fish in the water, hang over in uncomfortable positions and work to get the fish unhooked while they are in the water to keep the stress level as well as any nicks that may happen from becoming worse since water pressure seems to keep them from bleeding, then let them go no picture or weight. I have more of a problem with people laying the fish in the grass next to something or in the dirt to get a picture for accuracy and run around with the fish more then how they weight them.
Berkley digital scale and fish grip is exactly how we do our week night tounaments. Works great
fish grip jr + scale, fiddling with a hook in the gill area isnt my cup of tea.
On 3/22/2016 at 5:47 AM, OkobojiEagle said:You don't hang them from the gills... they hang from the bottom jaw in front of the gill opening.
oe
so you poke a hole in the bottom jaw and put the hook from the scale through the hole?
Use a throw away plastic grocery bag, put the bass in the bag and hang the bag by the handles on the scale hook. Easy, doesn't damage the bass in any way.
Most digital scales have a zero buttom to use after adding a fish gripper to the scale.
Tom
I use the berkley digital scale with the grip attachment. It isn't 100% perfect but it gets the job done.
On 3/22/2016 at 5:47 AM, OkobojiEagle said:You don't hang them from the gills... they hang from the bottom jaw in front of the gill opening.
oe
You are correct, but technically, it's in the gill area.
And a feisty fish may not be easily "hooked" in that
spot. As well, sometimes it takes multiple efforts to
hook the bass properly for the weight.
Maybe it's just me whose had those hooks not cooperate
when I'm trying to weigh an angry sow
Last year I weighed all of my fish, and have come to really hate the hook hanger! The fish always seem go crazy and flop off of it. I even went out of my way to use a vice to close the hook more, but it didn't seem to help. This year I plan to upgrade the scale to use a gripper.
WolfyBrandon
Shoot. I don't even have a scale. I'm good with a quick snap and back in the water it goes.
On 3/22/2016 at 6:32 AM, WRB said:Use a throw away plastic grocery bag, put the bass in the bag and hang the bag by the handles on the scale hook. Easy, doesn't damage the bass in any way.
Most digital scales have a zero buttom to use after adding a fish gripper to the scale.
Tom
seems easy enough, but requires me carrying a bag around in the kayak and i imagine a number of plastic bags would end up in the lake and god knows there's already enough trash in most of them
On 3/22/2016 at 7:21 AM, Burtonxj said:Shoot. I don't even have a scale. I'm good with a quick snap and back in the water it goes.
i hear ya, i just don't want to be the guy posting the "what do you think it weighs?" thread after i stick a piglet!
On 3/22/2016 at 7:30 AM, buzzed bait said:seems easy enough, but requires me carrying a bag around in the kayak and i imagine a number of plastic bags would end up in the lake and god knows there's already enough trash in most of them
i hear ya, i just don't want to be the guy posting the "what do you think it weighs?" thread after i stick a piglet!
The light weight grocery plastic bag fits into any pocket and can be used for your trash, it also makes a good emergency toilet bag. Simple solution to prevent hanging the bass by it's gills. If you own a landing net, use that.
Tom
I have been using the gripper since I saw it used on MLF.
I zero the scale with it hanging on the hook and then clip it to the fish to get the actual fish weight.
Don't have to account for the weight of the gripper.
On 3/22/2016 at 9:52 AM, WRB said:The light weight grocery plastic bag fits into any pocket and can be used for your trash, it also makes a good emergency toilet bag.
Gross. lol
The Rapala Formula for weight, or the one that is on most sites...Get the length of the girth, length to fork of tail, and then a length of tip to tip...I usually cut a piece of mono so I can get the fish back in the water as quickly as possible...
I have found that using that formula, and then using a scale, usually get the fish within an ounce almost every time..The key is getting the girth right, but I have a Rapala scale that has a lip gripper and goes to 25lbs that is pretty accurate, I gave it to a friend who likes to weigh everything, I think it has a hook as well, I don't think hanging a big bass from the gripper is the right way but I am not sure..I only have fish weighed if it is in a tournament or if I think it is "Special"...But I trust the formula, if it says 6.8 and I think 7, I go with the 6.8 based on tests and it is really close and much easier than trying to weigh a big bass imo...
I don't like stressing fish in the spring especially, although I am probably just paranoid, but I try to get them back in the water as quickly as possible and I usually don't take them all the way out unless I have a camera handy which is rare since I fall in the water often....
The grippers on the scale hook works well for me.
I usually weigh my fish by holding it up, guessing the weight and then doubling it... Works for me!
On 3/22/2016 at 9:53 PM, Steveo-1969 said:I usually weigh my fish by holding it up, guessing the weight and then doubling it... Works for me!
I think this is a pretty standard fish weighing method for a lot of people.
On 3/22/2016 at 9:53 PM, Steveo-1969 said:I usually weigh my fish by holding it up, guessing the weight and then doubling it... Works for me!
that's a solid method.... i'm going to change the PB number on my profile right now!
On 3/22/2016 at 9:53 PM, Steveo-1969 said:I usually weigh my fish by holding it up, guessing the weight and then doubling it... Works for me!
On 3/22/2016 at 10:08 PM, buzzed bait said:that's a solid method.... i'm going to change the PB number on my profile right now!
I highly recommend this method. AND you don't get anywhere near the gills of the fish. WIN WIN!!!
I use the rapala 50lb digital scale no hook it uses a lip grip/clamp thing.
Fish gripper Jr. and digital scale. I use the gripper on almost every fish I boat. Reach down while in the water and grip, They don't fall and flop around the deck, Hold tight when removing hooks, especially trebles. lay down next to ruler, hook the scale on, hold up for pic, set over side and release. Good for the fish- good for me!
To check scale I gripe a 4 Lb bag of sugar.
Just upgraded my Rapala Digital Scale with a Rapala Fish Gripper...
Here is a picture of the Digital Scale with the J hook & Fish Gripper zeroed...
Now, here is the Digital Scale with J hook only (zeroed) weighing the Eastaboga BogaGrip... (1lb 0oz)
Now, here is the Digital Scale + J hook & Fish Gripper (zeroed) weighing the Eastaboga Bogagrip... (again... 1lb 0oz)
Weight Reference...
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/BogaGrip/descpage-BOGA.html
"Model 130: Weighs fish up to 30lbs in 1/2lb increments. (Length: 10-3/4" Weighs: 1lb)"
WolfyBrandon
I like the fish gripper better than the plastic bag. The bass were getting their fins in the bag, and tearing it up.
I don't normally weigh a fish if I'm not in a tournament. When I'm in a tournament I just put the hook of my scale thru the cull tag. Have been considering attaching a lip gripper to my scale so I can weigh them when I am fun fishing. Will probably go ahead and order one...I wish TW stocked them.
All I use is a stick, some 50 lbs. braid, and an assortment of dumbbells.
So is it okay to hold a bass by the jaw? I know with big saltwater fish like snook holding them from the jaw bass style is a 75% mortality rate.. Is it okay for bass because they weigh less? I have always wondered.. It seems widely accepted so I couldn't imagine it's too bad for them
On 3/24/2016 at 10:32 AM, Afishionado said:So is it okay to hold a bass by the jaw? I know with big saltwater fish like snook holding them from the jaw bass style is a 75% mortality rate.. Is it okay for bass because they weigh less? I have always wondered.. It seems widely accepted so I couldn't imagine it's too bad for them
Generally, the bigger the fish the worse it is on them. A fish's skeletal system isn't built to support it's own weight because they live in a nearly weightless environment. So a heavy fish held vertically by it's jaw is basically crushing itself. The whole damaging the jaw deal is a bit overplayed I think but I'm not a biologist and I've been wrong before. I've caught a lot of big bass and held them by the jaw for a quick picture and haven't lost one yet that I know of. Been lots of time I've fished the same water the next day and didn't see them floating and our lakes are small so they'd be hard to miss. You can always hold them under the belly for added support if they're really large.
On 3/24/2016 at 10:32 AM, Afishionado said:So is it okay to hold a bass by the jaw? I know with big saltwater fish like snook holding them from the jaw bass style is a 75% mortality rate.. Is it okay for bass because they weigh less? I have always wondered.. It seems widely accepted so I couldn't imagine it's too bad for them
i'm always holding them vertically when holding the jaw. I only imagine it's less stress on them than holding them more horizontally by the jaw.