The last two times i have went fishing around sunset on the river ive been getting stumped. Both times i end up tossing out a 4" dark senko. And both times im hooking up with decent large mouths. This is great and all but im losing senkos like mad. Is there anyway to texas rig a senko without losing it on every fish? Or is there a similar bait i can pick up thats more durable?
Senkos are not very durable, but def catch fish. I'll lose them to nibbling blue gills, darn expensive to not even bring in a sunny, LOL.
I enjoy BPS Stik-O worms also. Having very good success with them, they last a little longer than GYCB Senkos. I mostly wacky rig, but also TX rig either weighted or weightless.
In my waters, Stik-O colors that work best: watermelon magic, hot pepper frog
I have the same problems with senkos I use the 6" ones and the bass rip em apart. For me I have no luck using any other type of stick baits except Yamamoto
I've been using the owner twist lock hooks and the senkos seem to stay on a bit longer... Those are probably the best that I've tried so far.
Try the Moaner Stroker unweighted or weighted hook. They have the screw lock that holds the bait. It makes it last much longer. Basically any swimbait hook with a screw lock keeper will work, I just prefer the Moaners.
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the screw will chew it up also, just picked up a pack of gamkatsu skip gap gonna try those with all plasticks..and many knockoff of the senko, but don't know one that is made like the senko..just look like it..
Try threading one end of a barrel swivel on your line first. Then nose hook the Senko the way you normally would. Next thread the hook through the opposite end of the swivel. Now finish up by Texposing your hook into the back of the worm. Your Senkos will last much longer this way.
who cares, you are catching fish
I have been using www.stankxbaitco.com stick baits for about a year now and they are more durable than a yamamoto and have better action than a yum dinger and they are priced well. They also do custom colors for a nominal fee.
Also another question is how do you rig them? I know you mentioned texas rigged but i am assuming weightless. Also how much of the plastic do you have going up the line as you rig them? I usually go at least 1/4" if not more as i have found this helps out both with action and keeping the bait together for a few more fish. I can usually catch at least 3-4 fish this way.
Owner has a hook designed by Yamamoto just for fishing the Senko. They seem to hold up very well on these hooks.
Gammy's Skip Gap hooks holds them a bit better but they will still tear apart if the fish is aggressive enough. Here's my 1,2,3 punch to reusing a senko if I am lucky enough to keep it all the way to 3.
1 - Standard T-Rig. Once the tip is torn I either bite off the tip and rehook it or ...
2 - Reverse TRig. I rig it Texas style from the tail end first. Gives it a little different action.
3- If the tail end rips a little but the center is intact then I will wacky rig.
This allows one senko to last alot longer and gives some variety in the presentation to boot.
As for brands. I am a big fan of the Strike King Shim-e-sticks and the BPS Stick O's
+1 to a different hook, or a wacky rig with a "weedless" hook
I am with Jay on the hook change. Like he also said, you could switch to a wacky rig too.
I always see posts like this where people are talking about catching fish on a Senko but they get tore up.
It is like collateral damage in my opinion. You are meeting your objective which is catching fish but the bait gets
killed in the process.
Not much you can do. Just the name of the game. I've trick every stick worm I could find, and while there is a few others I like and use, nothing wiggles like a Senko. Look at it this way, if you're losing a lot of Senkos it means you are catching fish!
On 6/25/2013 at 10:17 AM, BassAssassin726 said:Not much you can do. Just the name of the game. I've trick every stick worm I could find, and while there is a few others I like and use, nothing wiggles like a Senko. Look at it this way, if you're losing a lot of Senkos it means you are catching fish!
You got it!!!
I have been thinking of putting one of the Oring's on the front of the Senko, then feeding the hook Texas rigged
through the Oring, and into the body like you normally would a T rig. I assume I would need the oring about 3/8 to
1/2 an inch down the worm or at least the bend in the hook.
The BPS stick O's tend to be more on the durable side for me, I've actually caught about 7-8 fish off one and although they weren't huge they were still fish and we all know that those smaller fish can often be more aggressive than the bigger fish!!
Suggestions:
1. Use a weedless hook. You may want to go to a 3/0 or 4/0 or an EWG.
2. Rig the Senko backwards with the tail at the head of the hook to give it a different look and fall.
Senkos are soft. You will lose them. Nothing you can do about it. Part of the game.
You may want to try a YUM Dinger to note if it lasts longer than a Senko.
On 6/24/2013 at 10:48 AM, aquaholic said:The last two times i have went fishing around sunset on the river ive been getting stumped. Both times i end up tossing out a 4" dark senko. And both times im hooking up with decent large mouths. This is great and all but im losing senkos like mad. Is there anyway to texas rig a senko without losing it on every fish? Or is there a similar bait i can pick up thats more durable?
BPS Stik-O
BassAssassin726 said:Not much you can do. Just the name of the game. I've trick every stick worm I could find, and while there is a few others I like and use, nothing wiggles like a Senko. Look at it this way, if you're losing a lot of Senkos it means you are catching fish!
Not necessarily true...If your fishing ANY kind of structure, Senkos will start to tear apart were the hook enters the Senko, whether T-rig or Wacky. And if your putting Any kind of back into your casts, once again they will start to tear. For wacky set up I myself use the Gama Wide Gap Finesse Hook Weedless with the shrink tube method an its been far an away the BEST Senko saving system so far. Im still losing them just nowhere near the rate as before. But in the end as been said here before...they catch fish an thats what were all trying to do here right...LOL Just the name of the game!!!
On 6/25/2013 at 10:18 PM, Downeaster2010 said:I have been thinking of putting one of the Oring's on the front of the Senko, then feeding the hook Texas rigged
through the Oring, and into the body like you normally would a T rig. I assume I would need the oring about 3/8 to
1/2 an inch down the worm or at least the bend in the hook.
That's it. I thought it was a secret but guess not. That is how you keep them good for a long time with a T-rig. Put it about a half inch down the worm and hook you t-rig normally. It will help a ton. Then when it starts to get tore up, just go under the o-ring and not in the nose.
The only problem with going just through the o-ring is that the senko will spin on the retrieve 90% of the time giving you some terrible loops if you use a spinning rod.
I went to my local tackle store yesterday and picked up some yum dingers. I always talk to the guys while im in there and they all suggested i super glue the senkos on. Anyone ever try that?
Anywhere superglue touches the worm will make it hard as a rock. The last thing I want is a hard stick while fishing........
Combining a Gamakatsu Skip Gap hook with either a screw in weight or those clear screw in grass guards really help make them last longer. I used to t-rig my senkos all the time, but now I do a lot more wacky rigging. The way I make them last is to take a strip of electrical tape, tape it around the center, then impale with a hook of your choice. They sell electrical tape in tons of different colors and doing this has made my stick baits last a LOT longer.
Anyone tried the gander mountain branded senkos? Seem to work well enough for me.
I've been using the Hitchhiker Trailer Keepers to really increase the life of my Senkos.
click on pic.
I think what we are doing with some of our variations, is about as good as it is going to get. Some heat shrink tubing around
the head might help with the T style, but how do you shrink it to where you want it. Maybe hot water.
On 6/27/2013 at 9:59 AM, s freud said:Anyone tried the gander mountain branded senkos? Seem to work well enough for me.
Yes! Black Magic or something like that? Green and black packaging. I used the 5" GP and black a few years ago for smallies and they worked very well, held up pretty good. They were a little heavy though IMO, they sank like rocks... I like a slower fall with a little glide.