Ok So Now We See It!!back To The Original Claim Will It Revolutionize Fishing"??? 2024
Bobby Uhrig reply :
The new crank baits and this is not to be negative -just want your feed back-
basscatcher8 reply :
Seems interesting. May grab one if i come across some but doesn't look like anything to run out and grab immediatly.
gripnrip reply :
I'm going to grab a couple at the Expo. If they are like all the other Rapala's, easily broken, I will not purchase more. I'll be done.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Jury will be out for me until I see one in person.
My thing is, why is it so great for a crankbait to swim "erratically"? I thought cranks were meant to bang into cover/structure, keeping in contact with the surroundings and stirring stuff up.
Just wondering why I would want something to swim that way when it is not banging into things? If I were a predator fish (no, I am not), I would not want to chase down the crazy little meth head fish darting around in open water. I'd want to eat the dumb one that kept running into the stump I was sitting beside.
Maybe I just don't get it.
Avalonjohn44 reply :
Will try these out, kind of stoked about them.
On a durability note, I've only ever had two rapala bills break on me. One was my fault for trying to melt it and bend it into a new shape, the other was a super old lure that had been through war. I've cast rapalas onto and through rip rap, bounced them off trees and concrete bridge supports with no problems so far. I keep seeing posts about their durability but just don't see it with my lures. I have had durability problems with Mann's cranks, Bagleys (and most other balsa baits) and even Megabass lures (have had two griffons split right down the center) but never Rapala. Maybe I've just been lucky.
SudburyBasser reply :
Unless I hear that this lure is so great that bass put it on their lines to catch other bass, I'll wait and see. I'm past the point now of running out and buying the next, new, now when it comes to lures.
RyneB reply :
i dont see what the big deal was about. Just another overpriced Rapala to me.
Teal reply :
Theres only one way to find out. Buy your most productive color and see...
B@ssCrzy reply :
I will probably buy one or two and see how they do. Am really interested in how they do with some of the toothy critters!!! I think Pike and Musky will really like the erratic action it imparts. I don't see it as anything revolutionary. Although it may start a race for other companies to develop different lips on their baits as well.
Blue Streak reply :
I will give them a good workout this year and see what I think at the end of the season. If anyone can make a revolutionary lure it is surely Rapala. The original floating minnow made bass fishing easier for everybody.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
I wondered why they used the Hunting. Phrase a lot in the video
Teal reply :
Million dollar question. Bobby, are you gonna buy a few and try them?
Blue Streak reply :
Hunting is a very old term for crank baits that run off to the side like that. A very desirable feature at times. The old Wiggle Wart is very good for that. Funny thing when Rapala bought Storm they tried to correct that "problem" thought it was a flaw. Now it is the greatest thing ever, I guess we will see.
roadwarrior reply :
I don't know...
"Revolutionary lures" to me are the Original Floating Rapala and the Senko.
The closest thing today is The Rig.
flippin and pitchin reply :
I predict it will go the way of the Diawa Viento twitch bar.
Blue Streak reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 4:15 AM, roadwarrior said:I don't know...
"Revolutionary lures" to me are the Original Floating Rapala and the Senko.
The closest thing today is The Rig.
RW I think you could add the original "rubber" worm to that short list. I think Creme was the first.
Maico1 reply :
To answer your question, I will stick to my JDM CrankBaits....That being said it will be interesting to see what those that purchase them will have to say........
River Rat316 reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 5:20 AM, flippin and pitchin said:I predict it will go the way of the Diawa Viento twitch bar.
had one of those... your thumb would be huge if you actually used it...lol
Bobby Uhrig reply :
DONT MAKE ME GET INTO THE CRANK BAIT MARKET!!!NOBODY GOT TIME FOR DAT!!!!
If it catches fish-Im in- I have been using Rapalas for forty years-
bass1980 reply :
I'm still surprise people keep saying rapalas break. I have just started bass fishing but before that I was fishing rivers a lot. I have always used shad raps and bang them off rip raps and rocks/gravel. Never had one break. I have used KVD cranks for a year and had one break on me and not to mention the red eye shad LC paints chip like no other. Yet SK gets all the love and I bet KVD himself is part of the reason. That just shows you the power of marketing and sponsorship.
But I will not preorde these. I find it amusing they are making it like its limited. Soon enough it'll be all over in my fleet farm store. I will buy some and try it.
LuckyHandsINC. reply :
"Chase down the crazy little meth head fish" maybe the funniest thing Ive read here. Litterally sitting here alone laughing my @$$ off. Great mental imageOn 2/23/2013 at 12:57 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Jury will be out for me until I see one in person.
My thing is, why is it so great for a crankbait to swim "erratically"? I thought cranks were meant to bang into cover/structure, keeping in contact with the surroundings and stirring stuff up.
Just wondering why I would want something to swim that way when it is not banging into things? If I were a predator fish (no, I am not), I would not want to chase down the crazy little meth head fish darting around in open water. I'd want to eat the dumb one that kept running into the stump I was sitting beside.
Maybe I just don't get it.
Maico1 reply :
Maybe I should of put this over here........ Do These Lips Look Familiar
JeziHogg reply :
^HA effin Rapala
Big Bassman reply :
I'll try them for sure, but I agree with previous poster, probably a fad that won't last. Fishermen are always trying to get their baits to run straight!
gripnrip reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 6:32 AM, Bobby Uhrig said:DONT MAKE ME GET INTO THE CRANK BAIT MARKET!!!NOBODY GOT TIME FOR DAT!!!!
If it catches fish-Im in- I have been using Rapalas for forty years-
LOL
River Rat316 reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 7:16 AM, bass1980 said:I'm still surprise people keep saying rapalas break. I have just started bass fishing but before that I was fishing rivers a lot. I have always used shad raps and bang them off rip raps and rocks/gravel. Never had one break. I have used KVD cranks for a year and had one break on me and not to mention the red eye shad LC paints chip like no other. Yet SK gets all the love and I bet KVD himself is part of the reason. That just shows you the power of marketing and sponsorship.
But I will not preorde these. I find it amusing they are making it like its limited. Soon enough it'll be all over in my fleet farm store. I will buy some and try it.
Rapala products have a bad rep for breaking because they do, there DT series and the original xrap are known for falling apart, then when you go email or call them to return it they want original packaging and receipt, like any self respecting man keeps all his receipts or original packaging in his man purse, and while I personally do not like Strike King cranks, they have a history of standing behind there products, yeah they are junk and fall apart just like all the other cheap cranks out there, but one call or email and they make it right.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 7:28 PM, River Rat316 said:Rapala products have a bad rep for breaking because they do, there DT series and the original xrap are known for falling apart, then when you go email or call them to return it they want original packaging and receipt, like any self respecting man keeps all his receipts or original packaging in his man purse, and while I personally do not like Strike King cranks, they have a history of standing behind there products, yeah they are junk and fall apart just like all the other cheap cranks out there, but one call or email and they make it right.
The SK line of crankbaits might not endure the industries highest quality control, they also do not carry the higher price tag of many brands.
From my experience, SK baits for the most part, run true, are fairly durable and most importantly catch fish.
To call SK junk, which is essentially regarding them worthless, IMO is a little harsh.
A-Jay
Tuckahoe Joe reply :
Just went to the Rapala website and watched the little demo videos. I like the look of it and if I happen to come across it in the local bait shop or Wal Mart or something, Ill probably pick one up. But Im not rushing to place an internet order or driving an hour and a half to BPS anytime soon. As for revolutionizing fishing....eh....who knows. Maybe. Maybe not. I could be wrong but I kind of feel like I can get similar erratic action from my crankbaits with moving the rod tip back and worth and giving little pops and twitches on my retrieve.
Quillback reply :
I was at the Classic Expo yesterday, the Dicks mini-store they had at the Classic has the Scatter Raps. The Bait Monkey made me buy five of them (get a free Rapala T-shirt when you buy five). I like the looks of them, Helsinki Shad and and Blue-Back Herring in particular. I bought two of the models, one that is basically a Shad Rap 7 with the new bill design and the other model is a small crankbait. I like the way these lures look and I think they'll catch bass once the bass get into a pre-spawn mode.
I do have a couple of complaints about these 2 models (crank and Shad Rap) and that is they are rather small and light, going to be tough to cast on a BC, so I'll probably end up throwing them on a spinning rod, I don't like fishing cranks on a spinning rod, but I really don't like getting backlashes.
They don't have a dep running model either, unless you buy the countodwn minnow. The cranks range is stated at 6-8 feet and the SR7 at 5-8 feet.
BassCats reply :
Walleye anglers will probably be the main buyers of these. I will give them a shot. I am a fan of Rapala cranks and shad raps. I could see using them around docks as a good option for them and between docks.
kadas reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 1:31 AM, SudburyBasser said:Unless I hear that this lure is so great that bass put it on their lines to catch other bass, I'll wait and see. I'm past the point now of running out and buying the next, new, now when it comes to lures.
X2
Bobby Uhrig reply :
The twitch bait/stick bait will be a smallie killer- Im a little skepticle about in springtime though -seem like ya need to retrieve it quickly for optimum action -spring time bass arent chasing baits to far-They more or less react to baits close by -so the spring time deal i will have to try myself--AGAIN still nice action on them
BobP reply :
It's funny when guys poo-poo a crankbait designed to hunt, like the scatter shads. Why are old Wiggle Warts and some old Bagley crankbaits highly desirable? Because some of them have hunting action! Seen the KVD commercial extolling the hunting action on the SK baits lately? What about the Wobble Bat from Japan? Hunt hunt hunt. That's why Rapala is building the Scatter Shad. If they can build a quality bait that reliably hunts, that's an outstanding achievement and I'm gonna get me some.
Yes, the alternative to a hunting crankbait is to crash your bait into every obstacle you can find. But that's not possible in all types of cover, so a hunting crankbait is a desirable option.
Guys can let their biases run rampant right now, never having seen a Scatter Shad "in the flesh" and never having fished one. Every bait is "Put Up or Shut Up" when the time comes to fish it - including the Scatter Shads. But in my experience, Rapala delivers on its performance promises more often than any of the other big names in fishing lures. JMHO
Fishes in trees reply :
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling revolutionized. I am uncertain if I will get over it or not. Time will tell, I guess.
Bass Junkie reply :
Many pros say that the main reason they contact cover with a crankbait is to achieve a deflection and cause an erratic action. When this action is built into the bait the reasons for contacting cover are diminished.
Dwight Hottle reply :
Ok So Now We See It!!back To The Original Claim Will It Revolutionize Fishing"???
No it will not.
But it might be a very effective tool. Any crank bait that hunts while being retrieved will out trigger any bait that does not. Its that erratic action that gets bit. That's why jerk baits are so effective. They are erratic when properly worked. Reef runner makes a banana style bait deep diver in a 800 series. Very popular plug for walleye fisherman. You buy the bait & it runs crooked right out of the box 9 times out of 10 pulling to the right or to the left. You have to tune them by bending the line tie right or left. After tuning the bait correctly it wobbles along then suddenly jumps 6" to a foot left then returns back to normal tracking then it jumps right 6" to a foot before returning to straight tracking. The faster you go the greater the hunting action before it finally blows out from excessive speed.
My guess is the rapalas will shine best with a fast retrieve or erratic retrieve stop & go. Bobby is probably right that the stick bait style will be killer on smallies late prespawn 50-60 degrees water temps just before spawning starts.
bass1980 reply :
I think people are taking the "revolutionize fishing" words too seriously. It's a marketing slogan to get your attention. Just like BMWs claim of the ultimate driving machine. Is it really?
Anyways this erratic action is not new. The Imakatzu Waddle Bat is kings of erratic. I have 2 but waiting for spring to try it. Cost is ridiculous but I guess my curiousity made my bite. There's also the Salmon whacky that swims just like the scattered rap. I think in regions in Europe this is not new.
Googles these up if you haven't heard of them.
SudburyBasser reply :
I think it's clear how companies will respond to this new Rapala lure. They'll make a crankbait with a lip that concaves in the other direction.
It will be a new cold war in the world of crankbaits.
Blue Streak reply :
Well whether it is revolutionary or not Rapala has been able to do something no other bait company has been able to do. They produced a quality built lure with a desirable feature at a reasonable cost.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
So what do these baitfish like shad hunt HMMM Plankton-- NAAAAAAH!!! Not going to buy that theory yet- Bluegills -yes--the shad -more of a panic scurry--That movement I will buy -panic-- They also flare their gills when in the "panic "mode--Reason manufacturers paint the gills on baits red. Yes I had Dr Loren hill back me on that one back in 1989
TNBassin' reply :
It's just a matter of time before Skeet Reese claims he designed this bait lol.
TrippyJai reply :
Every bait has it's time and place. I will most likely give these baits a try.
I understand the whole hunting deal, but does it really trigger a bass in striking?
Almost all my bites have either come frome the initial retrieve or deflected off something.
TNBassin' reply :
Well deflection usually causes an erratic action. Only time will tell with these new baits, but I take all this new stuff with a bag of salt until I see reviews or opinions from others NOT associated with the brand. The countdown looks pretty good though IMO.
River Rat316 reply :
On 2/23/2013 at 9:07 PM, A-Jay said:The SK line of crankbaits might not endure the industries highest quality control, they also do not carry the higher price tag of many brands.
From my experience, SK baits for the most part, run true, are fairly durable and most importantly catch fish.
To call SK junk, which is essentially regarding them worthless, IMO is a little harsh.
A-Jay
I call them junk because they do not endure a quality control check, not because they do not work, back when I actually used to fish cranks the SK 1xd was one of my favorites. But it took 3 to get one that was decent, then after a day of fishing it was tore up, and don't even think about leaving it sitting on your deck in the sun for an hour, they would blow up and look like a balloon, never had the same problems with Bomber square a's which I started to use instead of the SK cranks. With all that said though at least SK would back there product if you called them out on it, Rapala= worst customer service in the industry
Teal reply :
Im sick of works like "hunt",and "revolutionize". And frankly im sick of all the hype for this lure. Rapala may have made a good lure, they may have made a bad one,...who knows...
Rapala didnt re invent the wheel. The would have been better off to make A SUBTLE RELEASE of theirr product. Without hyping it to hights that the lure can never climb. When i say subtle, i mean release it like everyone else does...that means no (countdown to changing fishing forever) and stop using words like revolvtionize... not many lures do that.
the chatterbait design finally caught on but hardly revolutiionary.
The crazy thing to me is, all they had to do was show the action, show the bill and what it does and then shut up. It didnt need all the hype,..
IntroC reply :
Why all the hype??? To get them in poeples hands quick. The more lures in hand the more get used the word of mouth spreads. Smart marketing on their part. Many great lures have slipped through the cracks due to "a subtle release". Just saying.
Teal reply :
If a no name company brings out that lure with a subtle approach, then i can see what you mean. But this is Rapala one of the most recognized names in the fishing industry, when i say subtle i mean more subtle thant what they did. I mean a count down?lol they can push the product and advertise with out all the drama. The Rapala name is going to draw alot of attention by itself.
Blue Streak reply :
On 2/25/2013 at 10:58 PM, Teal said:Im sick of works like "hunt",and "revolutionize". And frankly im sick of all the hype for this lure. Rapala may have made a good lure, they may have made a bad one,...who knows...
Rapala didnt re invent the wheel. The would have been better off to make A SUBTLE RELEASE of theirr product. Without hyping it to hights that the lure can never climb. When i say subtle, i mean release it like everyone else does...that means no (countdown to changing fishing forever) and stop using words like revolvtionize... not many lures do that.
the chatterbait design finally caught on but hardly revolutiionary.
The crazy thing to me is, all they had to do was show the action, show the bill and what it does and then shut up. It didnt need all the hype,..
The marketing guys get paid a lot of money to develop these promotions. Advertising is the key to sales everybody hypes their products.
Bobby Uhrig reply :
OK Im done with this subject-
Next- I want Dozer Back
IntroC reply :
On 2/25/2013 at 11:34 PM, Teal said:If a no name company brings out that lure with a subtle approach, then i can see what you mean. But this is Rapala one of the most recognized names in the fishing industry, when i say subtle i mean more subtle thant what they did. I mean a count down?lol they can push the product and advertise with out all the drama. The Rapala name is going to draw alot of attention by itself.
I agree the countdown may have been a bit much.
BobP reply :
Advertising terms like 'revolutionary' just sail in one ear and out the other these days. Every bait company out there engages in hype, hoping to generate a little excitement and a few more sales. It's just the nature of the beast, whether you're SK, Rapala, Bomber, BassPro, Lucky Strike, you name it. I say ignore the noise.
No reason to get wound up about it unless you plan to stop buying commercial stuff and fish only with lures and equipment you build yourself. I ordered a few Scatter Shads because 1/ I saw the Youtube video and liked the action. 2/ I like Rapala lures. and 3/ the cost is good compared to many other balsa crankbaits.
Maybe it'll be crap. Maybe it will be - Ta da! REVOLUTIONARY! Ha Ha
Really no sense in worrying about it until we get them wet, is there?
bass1980 reply :
On 2/25/2013 at 10:58 PM, Teal said:Im sick of works like "hunt",and "revolutionize". And frankly im sick of all the hype for this lure. Rapala may have made a good lure, they may have made a bad one,...who knows...
Rapala didnt re invent the wheel. The would have been better off to make A SUBTLE RELEASE of theirr product. Without hyping it to hights that the lure can never climb. When i say subtle, i mean release it like everyone else does...that means no (countdown to changing fishing forever) and stop using words like revolvtionize... not many lures do that.
the chatterbait design finally caught on but hardly revolutiionary.
The crazy thing to me is, all they had to do was show the action, show the bill and what it does and then shut up. It didnt need all the hype,..
Well think about it. It got many haters talking about it right? That's the power of advertising and marketing. When the Revo 3's came out they didn't claim to revolutionize the game but they came out with a bang. Advertising everywhere making countless YouTube clips.
Google up Salmo Whacky and Wigglefin. They have similar action but I bet most people hear never heard of them. Sometimes the subtle approach doesn't help your company. Many times these smaller companies just doesn't have the resource to spend that much money of marketing but if they did I bet they would.
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