Googan Baits Doppelgangers 2024
JediAmoeba reply :
Thought this was interesting since this same comment has been claimed about plagiarizing others on some of their soft plastics.
Bluebasser86 reply :
They've knocked off a bunch of different companies baits. I'd guess that a good portion of their most rabid followers either will be unaware, or will just plain not care about that though.
Of course, everyone copies everyone in the fishing lure biz, but not usually entire lineups of baits.
Harold Scoggins reply :
I don't own either brand, so I couldn't say. However, that toilet paper my wife picked up on sale doesn't feel anywhere near as soft as the Cottonelle I'm use to.
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cgolf reply :
The other thing could be that 6th sense is making the cranks for them to increase their revenue. Perhaps they keep the better blanks for themselves and essentially use the seconds for googan?
fishballer06 reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 9:05 PM, cgolf said:The other thing could be that 6th sense is making the cranks for them to increase their revenue. Perhaps they keep the better blanks for themselves and essentially use the seconds for googan?
Most of these companies that are selling baits these days are just a middle man selling a Chinese made blank. There's probably only a few big name companies that are actually getting their own molds made (Rapala, Strike King, Berkley).
cgolf reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 9:17 PM, fishballer06 said:Most of these companies that are selling baits these days are just a middle man selling a Chinese made blank. There's probably only a few big name companies that are actually getting their own molds made (Rapala, Strike King, Berkley).
I assume though that a bait like the 6th sense provoke Jerkbait is built to 6th sense's specs and only sold to them unless they allow others to use it. I am guessing that they aren't just buying a standard blank. My work gets some injected parts from China from time to time and they make them to our specs and ship them over (overall its really not that expensive). The only downside is the turnaround on prototypes. Instead of a day or two we see a week or two between parts.
Saying that, the googan baits may be standard blanks, and a lot of the smaller custom paint folks definitely are. I could be wrong on this of course and most brands are really standard blanks.
fishballer06 reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 9:38 PM, cgolf said:Saying that, the googan baits may be standard blanks, and a lot of the smaller custom paint folks definitely are. I could be wrong on this of course and most brands are really standard blanks.
It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these companies have a standard mold, and then they'll slightly modify the blank if you purchase XX amount of blanks. For example, they'll change the mold slightly around the eye to let you use an eye that only your bait uses.
JediAmoeba reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 9:05 PM, cgolf said:The other thing could be that 6th sense is making the cranks for them to increase their revenue. Perhaps they keep the better blanks for themselves and essentially use the seconds for googan?
I would agree but this guy, Milliken, is in bed with 6th sense. He has his own line of rods through 6th sense and fishes with the owner and tries out new baits for them frequently.
This could all be a hype video showing ambivalence when none really exists, who knows. It is interesting though since Googan baits have been accused of this on other things.
EWREX reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 10:42 PM, JediAmoeba said:I would agree but this guy, Milliken, is in bed with 6th sense. He has his own line of rods through 6th sense and fishes with the owner and tries out new baits for them frequently.
This could all be a hype video showing ambivalence when none really exists, who knows. It is interesting though since Googan baits have been accused of this on other things.
apparently he's been with 6th sense pretty much since the beginning of the brand before he started making youtube videos. i don't think this is a hype video especially since he said he's officially cutting ties with his second biggest partnership which is Catch Co. (mystery tackle box, karls bait and tackle). it's one thing if there is one similar bait, but the fact that the WHOLE line is pretty much identical to the other is ridiculous.
Hawkeye21 reply :
This is just business as usual. This happens with all businesses that make a product. There are so many different artificial baits in the market that are almost identical to each other and are trying to imitate the same thing. Just look at all the custom lure makers that are using the same blanks and molds to make their lures and the only thing that is different is the paint job or color.
I think a lot of this just stems from people's dislike for Googan because they are new, they are young and they do things different.
cookieman reply :
after watching the video it looks like a copy cat but everything is copy catted some way, thats why we have all these different brands. They both retail for the same price so like everything else its the deal they make to get you to buy theres or which one catches the most for each person. we all have our own preferences, for me saving money talks. i used nothing but strike king cranks for years until a few years ago i started having quality control problems. they stood behind their product but put a question on them. I found 6th sense and they worked about the same if not a little better so have used them regular now
DSTN reply :
Definitely some clear similarities in a lot of the baits across the two lines. Some more so than others. But...if you scroll through the Tackle Warehouse hard bait sections it's pretty clear that with as many companies making hard baits as there are you see a fair amount of similarity between baits if you look for it. Not many baits out there setting the world on fire with originality. Not saying copying is ok, more that it's probably difficult to design a completely unique crankbait unless you are designing it for a unique purpose to fill a gap in the market.
Catch Co. (Ross G.) reply :
We posted our $.02 here: https://catchco.com/catch-co-knock-off/
MAN reply :
There are just too many hardbaits out there these days to not come close to another somewhere along the line when creating a new hardbait. Using a pre-existing mold that no one has exclusivity on can save you about $3,000-$5,000 dollars up front when introducing a new lure. Hardbaits molds are not cost effective in tweaking a part for multiple manufactures and a new mold is usually created with a slight variation. Used to be a 15% difference unspoken rule, but that didn't hold water legally when some began to challenge.
Munkin reply :
They hired Boyd Duckett as their lure designer.
Allen
NorthernBasser reply :
Of course many baits on the market have similarities. But for an entire line to be almost EXACT? Yeah, that's pretty...fishy.
hoosierbass07 reply :
I haven't bought any Googan lures yet but I noticed in some of their soft plastics they have rattles pre-installed. I thought, wow! How come I've not seen lure companies do that before? If I can force myself to by a Googan lure it will be those soft plastics with rattles in them.
NorthernBasser reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 1:36 AM, hoosierbass07 said:I haven't bought any Googan lures yet but I noticed in some of their soft plastics they have rattles pre-installed. I thought, wow! How come I've not seen lure companies do that before? If I can force myself to by a Googan lure it will be those soft plastics with rattles in them.
The only Googan Baits I've tried were the rattling ned. I told myself I'd never buy any Googan Baits, but these caught my eye. I definitely caught some bass on it. And I liked the concept. Only problem is they tear easily, causing the rattles to fall out.
Mbirdsley reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 9:38 PM, cgolf said:I assume though that a bait like the 6th sense provoke Jerkbait is built to 6th sense's specs and only sold to them unless they allow others to use it. I am guessing that they aren't just buying a standard blank. My work gets some injected parts from China from time to time and they make them to our specs and ship them over (overall its really not that expensive). The only downside is the turnaround on prototypes. Instead of a day or two we see a week or two between parts.
Saying that, the googan baits may be standard blanks, and a lot of the smaller custom paint folks definitely are. I could be wrong on this of course and most brands are really standard blanks.
The Chinese are known for either selling exact knock offs using your mold, mold comes up missing after contract, or copying the mold to the exact detail. Either way US companies do the engineering and other leg work and than the Chinese just blatantly plagiarize. In their culture. it is ok to do these sort of things.
J Francho reply :
They're Chinese baits to begin with. The baits are already produced. You essentially become a marketer of the baits. You buy a pile from them, then source out packaging from another company. A third does the label, then you have them drop shipped to a fulfillment center, and viola, you're a "bait maker." Tat is, if you have the capital to order quantity. I would have no doubt that several other Not sure the purpose, but I bet a creative team could come up with some fantastic claims about mag baits, lol.
The whole notion of "knock-offs" makes me laugh. They're already made, just waiting for a sucker to buy them.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 1:14 AM, Catch Co. (Ross G.) said:We posted our $.02 here: https://catchco.com/catch-co-knock-off/
"Even though we felt that we did nothing wrong and no IP was violated, we did ask the other company to send us a specific list of the things they felt they created that were unique that we may have inadvertently copied if our factory used them in some way without our knowledge, but the company did not do so and just demanded a large payment and ongoing royalties as well as threatened to take it public, which they are using their influencers to do now."
Influencers, made me LOL when reading this. The Googan's are the Kim K's of the fishing world 
The eyes on the Googan hard baits look like River 2 Sea's models with the Googan logo instead of R2S They will be next in line for payment and royalties
J Francho reply :
I think Lucky Craft influenced the rest of the plastic hard bait market.
JediAmoeba reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 2:30 AM, J Francho said:The whole notion of "knock-offs" makes me laugh. They're already made, just waiting for a sucker to buy them.
So a good lure painter could buy a run of 500 unfinished baits without hardware and market it on ebay as "custom painted Googan bait" and do well probably
J Francho reply :
It would depend on whether the factory was willing to set up for, or had 500 unfinished baits ready. Last I talked about this to my friend, it would take more than just 500 baits to get a custom run that wasn't cost prohibitive.
Hawkeye21 reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 1:32 AM, NorthernBasser said:Of course many baits on the market have similarities. But for an entire line to be almost EXACT? Yeah, that's pretty...fishy.
What's the different design between all the stick baits on the market? What about all the squarebill crankbaits? I've seen some frogs that look almost identical. I really like 6th Sense lures but do we know that they designs are original?
This is just more of the same that we've been seeing for years.
NorthernBasser reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 4:22 AM, Hawkeye21 said:What's the different design between all the stick baits on the market? What about all the squarebill crankbaits? I've seen some frogs that look almost identical. I really like 6th Sense lures but do we know that they designs are original?
This is just more of the same that we've been seeing for years.
I haven't seen every bait ever made. But I don't know if I've ever seen a bait copied THIS much.
What makes it more strange is, allegedly, 6th Sense met with the Googans previously about a possible partnership. But nothing came of it. And then next thing you know they're putting out baits that are almost an exact replica of the entire 6th Sense crankbait line? Like I said, it seems fishy. Just my opinion.
Anyways, I have no idea what's going on. I just want spring to get here. 
NHBull reply :
Stealing intellectual property is a "Richard" move.
Don't be a "Richard"
I guess imitation is the best form of flattery but it has become common place in this industry.
Sadly, I doubt their fan base know or cares.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
Hmmm so there is a lake ... in Omaha .... where there is a certain color bait... a KVD 1.5 square bill in bluegill color to be precise, that gets bit extremely well...
Low and behold... Milliken claims a “custom” color is the cats meow and goes to this lake to make a video with said “custom” one of a kind color. Oh and it just happens to be a 6th Sense squarebill and the color is called “Gilliken”.
If it were anyone else who made the video trying to “expose” Googan , I’d think nothing of it and think of it as just another Googan tactic to get rich (which, as much as I despise them, they have done well) and I’d have one more reason not to buy Googan baits.
But not this time. Milliken has claimed over and over again, that he’s so “original” and sometimes frankly gives the impression that he thinks he invented fishing and everything about it.
I really wish it were someone else who made this video. It’s really just a cheap way to try to get views, which has been done over and over again.
Its just ironic that Milliken made the video because he is the ultimate copy cat. If it weren’t for Andrew Flair paving the way in Omaha, he probably would have never had a YouTube channel and 6th Sense may never have made it to what it is today. Milliken got his channel started and got initial traction by mostly copying Andrew Flair.
I’m not at all saying that 6th Sense owes Googan anything. I’m not saying I know all of the politics, but from what I can see, it really irks me. This is just the pot calling the kettle black in an attempt to sell some baits and get some YouTube views.
Maybe someday “Googan” and “Milliken” will become *** forbidden terms on this site. Haha
cgolf reply :
This is always interesting. Honestly I don’t know if 6th sense has a case or not. I do know that companies like Rage and Zman, with the chatter bait, a lure they bought the patent to, actively defend their patents. If that response is true and 6th sense went after them it makes you wonder. Nothing wrong with a company feeling they need to protect their product even if they lose in the end.
The part I struggle with is why would they all play in the same blank pool. Once they get their designs down, I would expect their quantities to be high enough to payback the mold rather quickly.
if they do share blanks, I would love for someone to tell me the Xcalibur XCS 200 SB is still available under another name. That is one bad Square bill with a super aggressive wobble. I only have 3 or 4 and that is never enough;) Assume Megabass has there own molds too?
seeing @Dirtyeggroll post above, Strike king can burn the 1.5 and 2.5 molds, only the 1.0 and 8.0 catch fish for me, have never figured out why I strike out with those two very popular baits.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 8:32 AM, cgolf said:seeing @Dirtyeggroll post above, Strike king can burn the 1.5 and 2.5 molds, only the 1.0 and 8.0 catch fish for me, have never figured out why I strike out with those two very popular baits.
Come to Omaha. I’ll change your mind. Many 50+ fish and 20+ lb days with a KVD 1.5.
Chowderhead reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 8:20 AM, Dirtyeggroll said:Hmmm so there is a lake ... in Omaha .... where there is a certain color bait... a KVD 1.5 square bill in bluegill color to be precise, that gets bit extremely well...
Please don’t say this is Wanahoo - I get skunked every time I go there. ????
Memo to self, buy some 1.5’s
5by3 reply :
The Googan baits do seem a bit fishy to me... however, that being said, I feel like I can’t really trust anything that comes out of Millikan’s mouth either.
txchaser reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 1:14 AM, Catch Co. (Ross G.) said:We posted our $.02 here: https://catchco.com/catch-co-knock-off/
This was a pretty good read.
Harold Scoggins reply :
Hey you guys, I prefer Goonies Baits anyway.
Allaroundfishing reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 3:15 AM, NYWayfarer said:"Even though we felt that we did nothing wrong and no IP was violated, we did ask the other company to send us a specific list of the things they felt they created that were unique that we may have inadvertently copied if our factory used them in some way without our knowledge, but the company did not do so and just demanded a large payment and ongoing royalties as well as threatened to take it public, which they are using their influencers to do now."
Influencers, made me LOL when reading this. The Googan's are the Kim K's of the fishing world
The eyes on the Googan hard baits look like River 2 Sea's models with the Googan logo instead of R2S They will be next in line for payment and royalties
I think the whole deal with the influencers there is the fact that instead of the company publicly taking action they had Miliken fishing make it public using his fairly large following to make it public, I would be curious as to what kind of money he made off all of the buzz around that video if he even chose to monetize the video, sure theyre the Kim K's of bass fishing but out of all of them they (at this moment) have not individually released their own videos on the behalf of Catch co. to defend the points Miliken brought up in fact so far as to my knowledge catch co is the only entity that has defended its self and has not had the googans or any others affiliated with them to make videos talking about the drama
theres always going to be drama like this and buzz created around it bc at this time of year half of us are on the hard water and the other half are cursing at blue bird skies and cold fronts on the open water, it gives us something to talk about ????
Spankey reply :
I don't know much about either of these brands. Have a few 6th sense that caught fish but they are not on the tops of my hit parade. If I heard this guy correctly, he came out and said the gill plates were slightly different and color patterns were slightly different and commented that the eyes are slightly different. Than they are different. Slightly different is still different.
Guess his end of the year bonus won't be as big. We all have been through that at least one time or another.
Hawkeye21 reply :
On 1/10/2020 at 7:16 AM, Spankey said:I don't know much about either of these brands. Have a few 6th sense that caught fish but they are not on the tops of my hit parade. If I heard this guy correctly, he came out and said the gill plates were slightly different and color patterns were slightly different and commented that the eyes are slightly different. Than they are different. Slightly different is still different.
Guess his end of the year bonus won't be as big. We all have been through that at least one time or another.
He said in the video numerous times that the two lures were similar. That's enough of an admission that they are not identical. Everyone freaking out over this is either a 6th Sense homer or a Googan hater. Both brands offer good products, use what works for you and leave it at that.
RemyL reply :
As far as I can tell, they're all copies of much earlier designs anyway. The differences between them are no more or less than the similarities they share with lures from decades ago. I understand defending your intellectual property, but either take it to court or shut up about it. Instead of cutting down the GS line they could be promoting theirs. Show me you have a better product at a fair price and I'll probably buy it. Waste my time ranting that someone else's product is similar to yours in a category like hard baits and I'm going to laugh, call you an idiot and avoid your company because you might decide that any fish I catch belong to you or some other legal idiocy.
I have yet to actually fish any of the GS stuff I've bought recently, this weekend was the first decent weather and I had other stuff to get done, but I plan to try out a fair bit of their product line come spring and will see if I feel motivated to replace any of it with similar products from another company. Some online influencer isn't going to sway that unless they can show me that something I've found to be a weak point in the GS product is better in the one they're pushing. That may get a look, or maybe I'll just go buy the Rapala version for a couple bucks more and be done with it. They probably figured out all the little issues around the time I was born and have been fine tuning since.
FishinBuck07 reply :
As far as I am concerned they all copy each other. They all just put their own little tweak on a bait to make it just a touch different from the other guys. I will also say though that I would rather stick with the tried and true companies when I purchase lures though. Besides that I won't buy these guys baits because they come off as huge, arrogant D bags!!
Shimano_1 reply :
As far as them copying someone else...that's just the industry unfortunately. I still much prefer senkos but since they're so proud of them I refuse to buy them so I'm stuck buying other versions. Not even sure if the senko was the original but u get my point. As for googan stuff...I was at dicks a cple weeks ago and it seemed all they had was googan stuff. The wife asked if I wasn't getting anything...to which I responded "all they have is this over priced googan s***. A gentleman in probably his 40's with I assume his son that was maybe 20 acted like I hurt his feelings...then i saw they had a basket full. I just kinda smiled and walked away. I'll give em credit for what they've accomplished but man it turns my stomach that this is the world we live in.
Zoom and yum still make some fine soft plastics for less than half the price.
RemyL reply :
I haven't looked at the prices in stores, the price seemed at the high end but in the ballpark at the shopkarls site if you were a member, which is probably part of the system they want people to use. I attribute the higher than average price to the plastic insert to keep everything in the right shape. The idea seems good, no idea yet on the reality. (eta: not saying that bit of plastic justifies more than about a 10 cent increase based on production costs, but if it helps I'll call it fair, an extra fish or two is worth it. If no extra fish then worthless extra hassle.)
I've got a small variety and a few comparable products from other companies that are considered top choices. I figure I'll try things out and see what works for the fish looking at my lures. I like the designs and packaging system for the googan stuff but that isn't fish in hand so we'll have to see. My local Cabela's/BPS is pretty well stocked with GS as well as a lot of the other popular stuff so if I want to buy locally I've got plenty of options.
NorthernBasser reply :
On 1/15/2020 at 1:57 AM, RemyL said:I attribute the higher than average price to the plastic insert to keep everything in the right shape. The idea seems good, no idea yet on the reality. (eta: not saying that bit of plastic justifies more than about a 10 cent increase based on production costs, but if it helps I'll call it fair, an extra fish or two is worth it. If no extra fish then worthless extra hassle.)
Strike King also uses the shell packaging to keep their baits in shape.
A pack of the Strike King Rage Tail Craws (7 pack) retails for $5.50. A pack of Googan Baits Krackin' Craws (7 pack) retails for $6.00. Yeah, no thanks.
They know what they're doing (influencing the young kids who idolize them) and they're cashing in on it. Can't really blame them. They're living the American Dream.
With that said, I'm not gonna support them, especially when they're charging more money than the proven competitors. That's just ballsy and arrogant IMO.
RemyL reply :
Hmmm, with the member discount being applied, $4.99 for the krackin craw, $4.79 for the strike king rage claw. So slightly better but still higher. I consider "retail" a meaningless number since if you're actually paying retail you are throwing money away. The non member price at shopkarls is the same for both. They also have some significantly cheaper options that look similar in the photo.
Good to know about the Strike King having that shell, I hadn't seen that yet and they were one I have on my list to get and compare. I may have them in the order that hasn't arrived yet. I don't remember. I know I ordered some Z-Man TRD stuff and a few Keitechs but after that I would have to check my order history. Looks like they only use the shell on a few products, but probably just the ones that really need it.
I agree that they're cashing in, but realistically their profit probably has nothing to do with what is being charged. Some sales executive at Catch Co. decided that and the GS team gets a fixed amount based on total sales volume. They're just a brand name / image for a Catch Co. product.
It will be interesting to compare them. I don't have any past experience with any plastics other than Berkley Power Worms ages ago. I plan to try a good variety of brand, type and color. I've got some basic info on color selection and general types that work in different areas here, but I'm going into it with an open mind for what specific options will work. I'd love for some inexpensive option to turn out to work just as well, even if it annoys me to have wasted a bunch of money testing to discover that. On the other hand, I don't mind paying for quality and performance so if one of the premium price brands does the trick I'll hand over the cash with my fish slimed fingers.
ETA: off topic slightly, but I checked my order. Anyone have suggestions for colors on the rage claws for up north? I haven't found any good info on colors for creatures so I have just bought fairly realistic colors for the GS but don't have any craws from anyone else yet. I did have a couple other Strike King items on the way but not those. Do the white claws get any attention or do folks stick to naturalish colors?
Edited by RemyLBrett's_daddy reply :
On 1/15/2020 at 2:52 AM, NorthernBasser said:Strike King also uses the shell packaging to keep their baits in shape.
A pack of the Strike King Rage Tail Craws (7 pack) retails for $5.50. A pack of Googan Baits Krackin' Craws (7 pack) retails for $6.00. Yeah, no thanks.
They know what they're doing (influencing the young kids who idolize them) and they're cashing in on it. Can't really blame them. They're living the American Dream.
With that said, I'm not gonna support them, especially when they're charging more money than the proven competitors. That's just ballsy and arrogant IMO.
Was the same thing said about Strike King though when they came out with the Rage Tail products? Not trying to be disagreeable here it just seems that there's a lot of Googan haters out there when in fact they aren't doing anything exceptionally different than companies like Strike King and others have done in the past.
Glenn reply :
On 1/15/2020 at 11:05 PM, Brett's_daddy said:Was the same thing said about Strike King though when they came out with the Rage Tail products?
Strike King wasn't copying RageTail. It was indeed one-in-the-same product. Without getting into the details of the contract, Strike King was essentially distributing the RageTail products under a co-branded name. So they were not stealing.
Hawkeye21 reply :
Luke Dunkin had an interview with Milliken and he went into more detail about the whole thing. Sounds like 6th Sense came up with their own design and had a company in China make it for them. Catch co. then ordered the same bodies from China and made their own changes to them. Pretty much the same thing that happens all the time in the industry and what every custom lure maker is doing.
Brett's_daddy reply :
On 1/15/2020 at 11:24 PM, Glenn said:Strike King wasn't copying RageTail. It was indeed one-in-the-same product. Without getting into the details of the contract, Strike King was essentially distributing the RageTail products under a co-branded name. So they were not stealing.
I guess I miscommunicated myself, I was more implying that when Strike King debuted the Rage Tail line they were considerably more expensive than normal plastics...referring to when @NorthernBasser said this..."With that said, I'm not gonna support them, especially when they're charging more money than the proven competitors. That's just ballsy and arrogant IMO."
J Francho reply :
There's always some that would rather complain than catch fish.
FrogMann reply :
On 1/16/2020 at 3:34 AM, J Francho said:There's always some that would rather complain than catch fish.
When we going fishing J Francho? LOL. I got my rods, pick me up.
No complaints here, but lets go catch them ????
BassNJake reply :
On 1/2/2020 at 11:00 PM, EWREX said:apparently he's been with 6th sense pretty much since the beginning of the brand before he started making youtube videos. i don't think this is a hype video especially since he said he's officially cutting ties with his second biggest partnership which is Catch Co. (mystery tackle box, karls bait and tackle). it's one thing if there is one similar bait, but the fact that the WHOLE line is pretty much identical to the other is ridiculous.
I read about a guy who would cruise around kickstarter looking for good ideas.
He would find one he liked and while the company was going through the hoops and hurdles to get funding
He'd send 20 grand to China to make a copy cat version of their product.
He sells the crap out of the knockoff makes a ton of money and moves on to the next thing when he gets a cease and desist letter
I think was was for the fidget cube ....
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/a-24-year-old-made-345000-by-beating-kickstarters-to-market.html
Hawkeye21 reply :
On 1/16/2020 at 4:21 AM, BassNJake said:I read about a guy who would cruise around kickstarter looking for good ideas.
He would find one he liked and while the company was going through the hoops and hurdles to get funding
He'd send 20 grand to China to make a copy cat version of their product.
He sells the crap out of the knockoff makes a ton of money and moves on to the next thing when he gets a cease and desist letter
I think was was for the fidget cube ....
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/30/a-24-year-old-made-345000-by-beating-kickstarters-to-market.html
Capitalism at it's finest!
nascar2428 reply :
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. They made videos with both Gary Yamamoto and Steve Park. Next thing you know they have a soft plastic line using the rage tail patent. Different plastic composition and lure design, with the rage tail added. This is their MO, so if they were hanging out with the Sixth sense owners at one time, and now have a line of crankbaits, who knows what the story is. Seems to be a lot of similarities in how these baits came about. Just my opinion about the Googan Brand.
cgolf reply :
On 1/16/2020 at 6:16 AM, nascar2428 said:I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. They made videos with both Gary Yamamoto and Steve Park. Next thing you know they have a soft plastic line using the rage tail patent. Different plastic composition and lure design, with the rage tail added. This is their MO, so if they were hanging out with the Sixth sense owners at one time, and now have a line of crankbaits, who knows what the story is. Seems to be a lot of similarities in how these baits came about. Just my opinion about the Googan Brand.
I think the difference is they paid Steve for the use of his patent and it is listed on their packages.
If I read what happened here, 6th sense tried to get Catch co to pay up and based on their reply Catch co doesn’t feel they need to pay up. I have no clue who is right, but 6th sense is well in their rights to request this and catch co can defend themselves. Realistically they are the only ones that know the true story. Would be nice if 6th sense could put their response on here, but I know it gets messy because catch co is a site sponsor.
I still haven’t watched a Googan video, so not sure why all the hate. Maybe I should get with the times and watch me some YouTube.
J Francho reply :
On 1/16/2020 at 7:12 AM, cgolf said:Would be nice if 6th sense could put their response on here, but I know it gets messy because catch co is a site sponsor.
They're welcome to post their perspective, so long as they do not use the site for self promotion.
BassNJake reply :
On 1/3/2020 at 1:14 AM, Catch Co. (Ross G.) said:We posted our $.02 here: https://catchco.com/catch-co-knock-off/
I like having as much information as possible, thanks for this
Tennessee Boy reply :
I suspect that way too many companies are getting credit for designing what they're selling. You can't copy a design if you've never designed anything. Search for "wholesale crankbait china" and you can find sites that will sell you wholesale crankbaits or anything else for that matter. If I order 500 baits from China and start selling them as Tennessee Boy Crankbaits, that does not mean that I copied the design from the countless other companies that did the same?
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