To follow up on my question of what technique you plan to try this year. A lot of you have mentioned drop shot, so I'm gonna try to help your learning curve by telling you how I fish it.
Rod- 6'10" to 7'3" ML to M fast or extra fast
Reel- 2500 Shimano Stradic FJ
Line- Either straight fluorocarbon 6-8 pound test or braid (12 to 20 lb) to a 6-8 pound fluorocarbon leader
Knot- Palomar and run the tag end back through the hook eyelet to make the hook stand out
Baits- Yamamoto shad shaped worms, Roboworms, Reins Bubbling shakers, Poor Boys Erie Darters
Hooks- Gamakatsu split shot/drop shot in either size 1 or 1/0
Weights- cylinder shaped lead or tungsten (better feel and smaller) usually between 1/8 and 1/4
To fish it I cast it out and work back in slowly twitching the rod tip without lifting the weight. Over a certain depth say 15 feet it seems to work better dropping straight down. To set the hook just reel and maintain constant pressure. I hope this helps some of you new to this technique.
Nice post, here is my go to setup.
Weightless senko.
Rod- 7' MF or MXF
Reel- Stradic CI4+
Line- 15lb Power Pro neon yellow to 10 lb Red Label flouro (5 ft)
Knot- Palomar for hook, uni-uni for leader
Baits- Yamamoto senkos, KVD ochos, Gambler ace (thanks to RoLo)
Hooks- size 6 octopus - 4" ochos wacky, size 2 octopus 5" wacky, 3/0 EWG for texas rig
I fish mostly wacky. I usually go with a pop-pop wait pop-pop-pop wait retrieve.
My go-tos:
7'11 H moderate fast St Croix Legend Extreme, Curado I 7.2:1, 50lb Sunline FX2, and a bulky 3/4 oz flipping jig
7'6 H Moderate fast Kistler Helium, Chronarch CI4, 17lb Pline Tactical Fluoro, and a bulky 3/4 oz flipping jig
7'3 H Kistler Magnesium, Daiwa Zillion TWS 7.3:1, 50lb Sunline FX2, and a Spro Bronzeye frog
Rod: 7'1" Mojo Bass medium-heavy fast
Reel: Lew's SuperDuty Speed Spool Baitcast Reel
Line: Trilene XT Monofilament, 14 or 17 pound test in clear
Knot: Uni
Bait: 3/8th ounce Grid Iron Arky Jighead from Seibert Outdoors, Round Rubber Skirt, Baby Paca Craw as the trailer
Texas rig! I have plenty other techniques in wich i have confidence but at the end of the day the T-rig is allways the one i like the most, with jigs being a close second, there´s nothing better for me like feeling a bite and setting the hook...
Froggin. 2 types of fishing for me. Froggin and everything else.
I will say "finesse" as a group. I have at times had 5 rods rigged different ways with 5 inch Senkos on my deck at once.
Truly kicking off my bass season on Sunday. Do have some bad weather moving in. I'll have to deal with whatever is dealt to me.
But I feel it will most likely be on a Rat L Trap or a Rapala jerkbait of some type. I picked up on this pattern over the winter (carbon). I'm hot to use it. If that doesn't do it maybe one of the old standbys will.
On 5/2/2017 at 9:14 PM, ThePolkFolk said:Nice post, here is my go to setup.
Weightless senko.
Rod- 7' MF or MXF
Reel- Stradic CI4+
Line- 15lb Power Pro neon yellow to 10 lb Red Label flouro (5 ft)
Knot- Palomar for hook, uni-uni for leader
Baits- Yamamoto senkos, KVD ochos, Gambler ace (thanks to RoLo)
Hooks- size 6 octopus - 4" ochos wacky, size 2 octopus 5" wacky, 3/0 EWG for texas rig
I fish mostly wacky. I usually go with a pop-pop wait pop-pop-pop wait retrieve.
Why the colored line?
Good question @Adleyfishes. Half of my bites are feel-bites where I either feel the tap or feel weight on the line. The other half is seeing the line move off in an unnatural direction. In my personal opinion I don't feel that the yellow line drives off any fish so I use it to make it easier to see.
What's your go to technique that you have most confidence in?
Patience.
A-Jay
I throw a brush hog on a 7' mh blackout and pro max reel 4/O hook I target weed lines and small timber near the bank. 30 pound braid with leader or 12-15 pound mono depending on clarity I'm on a very tight budget.
On 5/2/2017 at 9:59 PM, A-Jay said:What's your go to technique that you have most confidence in?
Patience.
A-Jay
I've seen your videos you can do better than that
Duckett ghost 7'3" heavy fast
kastking speed demon
50lb power pro braid
3/4 oz strike king tungsten punch weight with skirt keeper
Boss bluegill skirt
Strike king menace grub rigged vertically
Trokar 4/0 flipping hook snell knot
I also add rattles
6'6" MH rod, braided line, 4/0 EWG hook 1/16 oz bullet weight (not pegged) and a 5" senko Texas rigged.
On 5/2/2017 at 10:30 PM, Bassin' Brad said:6'6" MH rod, braided line, 4/0 EWG hook 1/16 oz bullet weight (not pegged) and a 5" senko Texas rigged.
How do you fish it? Let it fall to the bottom on semi-slack line. Lift and repeat.
On 5/2/2017 at 11:43 PM, Fishin' Fool said:
How do you fish it? Let it fall to the bottom on semi-slack line. Lift and repeat.
Exactly like that.
6'6 to 7' MH fast action rod 30lb power pro 3/0 straight shank gama hook. zoom ultravibe worm/ragetail cut'r 3/16 oz to 1/4 oz bullet weight pegged
jig is a close second with pretty much same setup
On 5/2/2017 at 11:57 PM, riverbasser said:6'6 to 7' MH fast action rod 30lb power pro 3/0 straight shank gama hook. zoom ultravibe worm/ragetail cut'r 3/16 oz to 1/4 oz bullet weight pegged
jig is a close second with pretty much same setup
On your first technique you mentioned, is it a steady retrieve or fast retrieve?
On 5/3/2017 at 12:00 AM, Fishin' Fool said:
On your first technique you mentioned, is it a steady retrieve or fast retrieve?
depends on the day both of those worms work well when swam just above the bottom, always rig tail down and they mimic a paddle tail, most days they want it even slower though just pulled with rod and bringing up slack with reel like you would work a lizard or creature bait
I would have told you a wacky rigged senko in the
past. Then a drop shot the last 6 months.
The last several outings? Ned rig on 2 - 3 spinning
rods, all under 6'6" with 6, 8, or 10# fluoro or YZH.
1/5 oz weedless, and 1/20 oz weedless jigs.
Colors? Take your pick, but junebug is quite good.
Sunday late afternoon until sunset, heavy wind,
much tougher bite than I anticipated. No takers on
TX, wacky. Didn't have a drop shot tied on.
Two Ned rigs, lost 3 nice fish near the boat, which
hit my confidence in the ML rod I was using at the
time...but I persisted. Ended up with a 2, 2.2, 2.6,
a 3, and a 4 pounder before heading in. Time of
day clearly played a part, as those came as wind
died down, but the Ned produced.
I love dragging a football head along rocky bottoms. Feeling all sorts of stuff going on down there, then bam, fish on.
This one can be all over the board because there are SO many possible scenario's. BUT for the early spring in flats, I will often go to a jerk bait (such as a Shadow Shad Rap) and fish as slowly (pauses) as the water temp dictates. I've done so well it's difficult to try anything else.
On the River
Plastic - Yum Crawbug on a slider head
Crank - Bandit 100
Lakes
Plastic - Tube or 5" Kalins grub on a slider head
Crank - RES, Bandit Flat Maxx and 100, and Norman Deep Little N have been my #1s for a while trying to expand that list trying more baits
Nose hooked dropshot times a billion.
On 5/3/2017 at 3:11 AM, blckshirt98 said:Nose hooked dropshot times a billion.
What's your go to bait?
I really don't have a go to, though the past couple years I've caught more on a popper than anything.
On 5/3/2017 at 3:12 AM, Fishin' Fool said:
What's your go to bait?
Depending on where i'm fishing, but small 3.5"-4.5" baits - Molix Sator Worm or Reins Bubbring Shaker, but the new SK Half Shell is finding a place.
On 5/2/2017 at 9:28 PM, Turtle135 said:
Rod: 7'1" Mojo Bass medium-heavy fast
Reel: Lew's SuperDuty Speed Spool Baitcast Reel
Line: Trilene XT Monofilament, 14 or 17 pound test in clear
Knot: Uni
Bait: 3/8th ounce Grid Iron Arky Jighead from Seibert Outdoors, Round Rubber Skirt, Baby Paca Craw as the trailer
I fished almost this exact same setup a few weeks ago and it killed for me. Exact same reel, except with a Lew's Speed Stick 7'6" Heavy Fast and braid. Exact same jig and similar trailer.
If the fishing is tough I'm going to fish either good structure or head to the banks and fish deep into cover .
The waters I fish are usually clear and somewhat pressured. So I guess this would be it.
Most any spinning rod labeled mxf to mlxf 6'6" to 7', light jig head, 1/8 th oz. tops but usually less, small plastic with minimal action, tube, or sometimes hair, 10# braid, 6-10# flouro leader depending on cover.
To to some it might sound like the Ned, Slider, or a light jig worm. I used to call it finesse jigging before the term came to mean something else. Once you learn it, I mean really learn to feel exactly what your jig is doing and where it's at all times, it beats the DS. Takes a while though. For me it took years.
If if it's windy, forgettaboutit. Go to the DS rig. That's why most of my weights are 1/4 to 1/2 oz.
On 5/3/2017 at 12:08 AM, Darren. said:I would have told you a wacky rigged senko in the
past. Then a drop shot the last 6 months.
The last several outings? Ned rig on 2 - 3 spinning
rods, all under 6'6" with 6, 8, or 10# fluoro or YZH.
1/5 oz weedless, and 1/20 oz weedless jigs.
Colors? Take your pick, but junebug is quite good.
Sunday late afternoon until sunset, heavy wind,
much tougher bite than I anticipated. No takers on
TX, wacky. Didn't have a drop shot tied on.
Two Ned rigs, lost 3 nice fish near the boat, which
hit my confidence in the ML rod I was using at the
time...but I persisted. Ended up with a 2, 2.2, 2.6,
a 3, and a 4 pounder before heading in. Time of
day clearly played a part, as those came as wind
died down, but the Ned produced.
So you've finally gave in and got converted to ned rigging, I knew you would love it once you put down your wacky rig and dropshot.
Your hooking and landing percentage might increase if you try lite braid in the 6-10 pound range with or without a leader. I think it makes it easier to present it the way you want also.
Half of a zinkerz on a 1/16 ounce mushroom head is my "confidence technique" also.
On 5/3/2017 at 9:53 AM, IndianaFinesse said:So you've finally gave in and got converted to ned rigging, I knew you would love it once you put down your wacky rig and dropshot.
Your hooking and landing percentage might increase if you try lite braid in the 6-10 pound range with or without a leader. I think it makes it easier to present it the way you want also.
Half of a zinkerz on a 1/16 ounce mushroom head is my "confidence technique" also.
I've not been disappointed thus far by any stretch of the
imagination. An amazing rig!
Given my spending ... um ... issues with Milwaukee tools
lately, I'll stick with 10# and 15# Power Pro. At least for
now... When I need new rigs, I'll consider ordering the
Zinkerz instead of TRDs. Perhaps.
Light Texas Rigs:
6' ML/F spinning rod, size 30 reel (Pflueger)
15# braid with leader or straight 6-8# mono.
2/0 round bend hook, Palomar knot
4 - 5 inch worm or similar size/profile soft plastic
On 5/3/2017 at 10:34 AM, Darren. said:
I've not been disappointed thus far by any stretch of the
imagination. An amazing rig!
Given my spending ... um ... issues with Milwaukee tools
lately, I'll stick with 10# and 15# Power Pro. At least for
now... When I need new rigs, I'll consider ordering the
Zinkerz instead of TRDs. Perhaps.
Oh, I thought from your previous post that you were using straight flouro instead of braid, which might lead to hooking problems. That rig should work fine, I often use 10 pound power pro cause it's usually what gos on sale at Walmart for whatever reason.
Jig or a bladed jig. If I think I can get them to eat either of those, I'll be fishing them.
my confidence is in chatterbaits i can't throw them enough
my setup is
7'3" M/M Ike
7.3:1 Tatula 100
20 LB AbrazX
I don't have one confidence technique (I don't actually buy into the technique thing) but every time I'm throwing a jig, T-rigged plastic, spinnerbait or squarebill I'm sure they are going to get bit. With most other baits, I'm just fairly certain, so I guess my confidence technique is confidence.
As much as I love chucking and winding, I'd have to say that 'Go-to' would have to be Rage Tail, rage rigged
6'9" MF ; 30#Yellow PP w/12# leader
Owner Weighted Twistlock Lite 3/32
Rage Tail - about 40% of the time Cut-R; 40% Structure Bug -- the other 20%, I get radical and go up to go up to Anaconda or down to Thumper
With this set up, I can skip, flip, drag deep, skim shallow across top of heavy weeds, etc.....the accuracy, versatility and reliability can't be matched by anything else I carry.
Casting Rod Go-To:
Rod: 7ft Medium-Heavy Fast Action
Reel: Shimano Curado 201HG
Bait: Booyah Spinnerbait, Weighted T-Rig, Chatterbait
Spinning Rod Go-To:
Rod: 7ft Medium-Light Fast Action
Reel: Shimano Sahara 2500FE
Bait: Ned Rig, Weightless T-Rig, Wacky Rig
For me, it depends on the kind of water I'm fishing, but I will always have some kind of jig tied on and it will likely be getting wet anytime I think it'll produce. Typically, I'll be fishing some kind of jig or T-rig variation 1/2 the time I'm on the water.
Jerkbaits and tubes by far.
Vision 110 in Perch
10 lb flouro
dobyns 704cb or shimano adrena 7'2" Med
Chronarch 51 or metanium 13
Canadian mist tube
3/8 big bite tube jig with rattles
15 power pro, 10 flouro leader
Aetos ML 7'6"
Stradic 2500
If I can't get them on one I'll get them on the other.
Spinnerbaits and Rage tail Rage rigged.Fish alot of weightless soft plastic jerk baits.
On 5/5/2017 at 11:55 PM, DubyaDee said:Jerkbaits and tubes by far.
Vision 110 in Perch
10 lb flouro
dobyns 704cb or shimano adrena 7'2" Med
Chronarch 51 or metanium 13
Canadian mist tube
3/8 big bite tube jig with rattles
15 power pro, 10 flouro leader
Aetos ML 7'6"
Stradic 2500
If I can't get them on one I'll get them on the other.
I just ordered that perch Vision 110 thru Mikes Rxbaits. Can't beat buy 2 get 1 free.
Texas rig
6'0 Medium action rod, baitcasting reel
1/16th ounce bullet weight, 3/0 Tru Turn bass worm hook 7.5 inch Culprit worm Plum Crazy color.
I know Tru Turn hooks are old school, but if I'm fishing any other way, I'll pick up my old rod and reel that always has my Culprit tied on, and I always catch fish. I caught my PB 9 pounder this way. Everyone has their confidence rig, this is mine. I use other worm hooks in 4 and 5/0, but I miss fish a lot, where my hook up on the old Tru Turn is always a lot higher. It's pretty simple, but it never has let me down.
I start witih something fairly fast, like lipless crank or 4" paddle tail on a bullet jig, experimenting with different retrieves. If nothing, I find out if fish are there with a Ned rig. If fish are there, in a few minutes I'll know it.
Rage Cut R..On a Loomis GLX 843C, Chronarch 100SF reel, 14# Sniper.
or
Zoom Magnum UV Speed worm....On a 7' mh/f Fenwick Techna AV, Curado E7 reel, 20# Shooter
Mike
That depends on so many things.... Are the pads/veg out? What is the water temp and sun exposure like??
If if I had to blindly pick one thing to bring (hate that) it would likely be some kind of TX rig worm. I'd give that worm up in a second tho if topwater is hot, pads are out and I have a fresh custom finesse frog to throw.... So it depends. Heavily.
Baby ribbet on a double take hook around grass and or flooded brush till the water drops below 60 degress.
On 5/2/2017 at 10:20 PM, sully420 said:Duckett ghost 7'3" heavy fast
kastking speed demon
50lb power pro braid
3/4 oz strike king tungsten punch weight with skirt keeper
Boss bluegill skirt
Strike king menace grub rigged vertically
Trokar 4/0 flipping hook snell knot
I also add rattles
Thats a good looking bait!!
Hard jerkbaits for me. They have been my best producers over the past few years.
Probably a jig, then a walking bait behind that.
My confidence bait is a tube. In any river, lake, creek or pond I fish in if there are bass there they will hit a tube. Swim it, drag it, hop it or rip it out of grass. I use an internal jig head and change the weight according to conditions. I fish A lot of different techniques but using a tube is what I have the most conference in. It's not as sexy as some other techniques to fisherman but the fish sure do find it sexy.
Open water: Mann's 1-minus crankbait.
Around reeds: Jawbone frog (small)
Around wood: black jig with grandebass mega claw trailer.
Topwater: whopper plopper
For moving baits probably a spinnerbait or swimjig, for when the bite is really rough probably a wacky worm or shakeyead.
Just for clarity,what's a go-to? I'm just thinking I don't catch enough fish to have need of a go-to??
Go to technique? Dragging a jig or gtail through whatever cover or structure I can find.