Beaver/creature Vs Worms 2024
Dypsis reply :
Just trying to further improve my plastic game. In what situations would you prefer a Beaver/Creature (Sweet Beaver, Flapping Hog, etc) vs a senko type bait.
Does cover influence your decision, depth, time of year, confidence?
I know the fish can take or leave any bait on any day but what are some things you look for when deciding what to throw first.
Thanks!
Matt
fishinphilly reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 1:00 AM, Dypsis said:Just trying to further improve my plastic game. In what situations would you prefer a Beaver/Creature (Sweet Beaver, Flapping Hog, etc) vs a senko type bait.
Does cover influence your decision, depth, time of year, confidence?
I know the fish can take or leave any bait on any day but what are some things you look for when deciding what to throw first.
Thanks!
Matt
i mainly only fish beavers when punching or flippin laydowns (netbait b bug) i like senkos for skipping docks, as for when i throw them usually whenever the suns out and i know there in cover
Choporoz reply :
I'll play a Rage Tail Structure Bug on the first team. Senkos come off the bench.
doyle8218 reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 1:29 AM, Choporoz said:I'll play a Rage Tail Structure Bug on the first team. Senkos come off the bench.
X2 - creature then worm.
eyedabassman reply :
I like Beavers on a jika rig or even as a jig trailer. Creature baits I like on a C-rig or T-rig, jig trailer. And Worms just about on anything.
Joedodge reply :
Very interested. I throw a lot of stick baits and ribbon tails. But I'm really trying I get into the creature baits. I'm gonna start flipping them in cover side it's always so hot and sunny in Florida. But I'm also considering texas rigging it and working it like a worm.
DTack reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 1:00 AM, Dypsis said:Just trying to further improve my plastic game. In what situations would you prefer a Beaver/Creature (Sweet Beaver, Flapping Hog, etc) vs a senko type bait.
Does cover influence your decision, depth, time of year, confidence?
I know the fish can take or leave any bait on any day but what are some things you look for when deciding what to throw first.
Thanks!
Matt
I am a "seat of the pants" kinda guy. I don't fish a bait for too terribly long if I'm not getting bit. We all have our confidence baits though. Typically I will have a beaver style bait when I am flipping or if fish are primarily eating crawdads or bluegill. If I am fishing "finesse" I typically use a straight tail worm, the exception if I will throw a beaver style bait on a shakeyhead as well. Once again this is typically if I believe the fish are more keyed in on crawdads or bluegill. I hope this helps.
Munkin reply :
Creature baits work better in the spring and fall than a worm for me. Summer it is a toss up except worms are better for the grass.
Allen
A-Jay reply :
Don't under estimate the seductive fish catching power of a Big Worm.
Over sized worms in the 10 inch plus range, have been fooling Big Bass for a long time.
A-Jay
eyedabassman reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 3:09 AM, A-Jay said:Don't under estimate the seductive fish catching power of a Big Worm.
Over sized worms in the 10 inch plus range, have been fooling Big Bass for a long time.
A-Jay
A-Man Brother!!!!!!!
Felix77 reply :
I tend to use beavers for flipping and pitching over a senko. When in light grass or dragging something I would use the senko.
Frankly both would work using both techniques but this is how I generally would fish them.
Joedodge reply :
Would it be acceptable to fish a creature type bait with a hop hop pause like a worm? And still get bites and be working it effectively? ( not hi jacking trying to get more info provided op)
Grizzn N Bassin reply :
I use big worms in the summer and fall.
spring summer fall I use creature baits.
like Ajay said big worms have been catching big bass for a long time.
Choporoz reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 3:41 AM, Joedodge said:Would it be acceptable to fish a creature type bait with a hop hop pause like a worm? And still get bites and be working it effectively? ( not hi jacking trying to get more info provided op)
Certainly.
I'd first put a beaver on a weighted hook or a swing-jig. I like to work it in messy laydowns. If I'm patient, I'll work it back to the boat along the bottom, but most strikes are on the fall through timber.
J Francho reply :
I see creature/bever baits as "drop baits," as in drop in holes or gaps in cover. Worms to me are "penetration baits, and get through cover to deeply buried fish. Obviously, there is a TON of crossover.
Dypsis reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 3:09 AM, A-Jay said:Don't under estimate the seductive fish catching power of a Big Worm.
Over sized worms in the 10 inch plus range, have been fooling Big Bass for a long time.
A-Jay
Something I am adding this year - picked up a few items and hopefully get a couple nice toads on them!
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/148058-looking-to-add-a-10-12-worm-to-my-arsenal-suggestions/
Trek reply :
Early spring when the females are starting to move up to their beds I'll toss a senko. I know at that time of the year they are a little spooky and a slow falling bait works well. Then as the summer mood comes in and they get up or into cover I just think it's hard to fish a senko and go to more of a beaver style bait. But I'm looking for more of a reaction type bite then. Then come fall they will start schooling on the shad to fatten up for winter and I switch to a crank bait. For me a senko would work all three seasons but maybe not be the best producer of the better fish in summer and fall. But you could catch good numbers all year on it.
Trek reply :
Early spring when the females are starting to move up to their beds I'll toss a senko. I know at that time of the year they are a little spooky and a slow falling bait works well. Then as the summer mood comes in and they get up or into cover I just think it's hard to fish a senko and go to more of a beaver style bait. But I'm looking for more of a reaction type bite then. Then come fall they will start schooling on the shad to fatten up for winter and I switch to a crank bait. For me a senko would work all three seasons but maybe not be the best producer of the better fish in summer and fall. But you could catch good numbers all year on it.
Dypsis reply :
So for example bass were fairly shallow yesterday and relating to wood mostly with deeper water nearby. There were plenty of stumps to cast and drag/hop back to the boat. I caught all of my bass on T-Rig senko, Shakey head Robo and T-Rig/Shakey Fuse 4.4.
I don't know why I started with the worms but it worked and after looking back today, I was curious as to why I randomly choose a worm (it worked). But now I am trying to decide under what circumstances should I choose one over the other for future. I was curious how the day would have gone if I had started with a beaver or something - the world will never know.
Thanks for all the replies and shared tactics.
papajoe222 reply :
Hopefully that isn't the only way you fish a worm, but yes that can be productive at times.On 3/26/2015 at 3:41 AM, Joedodge said:Would it be acceptable to fish a creature type bait with a hop hop pause like a worm? And still get bites and be working it effectively? ( not hi jacking trying to get more info provided op)
Irreverent creatures and beaver style plastics more for a falling presentation, but with a much faster fall rate than a Senko. Whether it's wacky style, nose hooked, or even on a weighted swim bait hook for my use, a Senkos works best when falling slowly.
Worms, on the other hand, I tend to present more horizontally.
Catt reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 3:09 AM, A-Jay said:Don't under estimate the seductive fish catching power of a Big Worm.
Over sized worms in the 10 inch plus range, have been fooling Big Bass for a long time.
A-Jay
The consummate reaction lure 
Joedodge reply :
I will say some of my nicer bass so far have been hooked on a 10 inch ribbon tail worm
BarefootBassin reply :
A T-rig senko can be much more versatile than most people think. I'll dead-stick it in post front cold water conditions or fish it somewhat like a a fluke in the spring when the water is warming. I agree that nothing beats a large ribbontail in the summer heat, but I will still fish them throughout the summer in the backs of creeks or twitch and burn them over weedbeds after a summer front has past.
As far as creature baits are concerned, they are great for laydowns or anytime you need to target fish that are holding close to cover. I tend to go with the beaver style for heavier cover of any type in the summer. Creature baits are a broad category as well. I will fish larger creature baits like brush hogs, lizards and D-stroyers from late spring to late fall, but I fish them more like I would a large worm in the summer. While flipping and pitching are the more popular techniques, don't discount casting a large creature bait. I've caught plenty of large bass from FL to TX dragging creature baits across grassbeds. I still use them at times in the winter, I just lighten the weight and slow my presentation. The possibilities are limitless. Both types of plastic are highly versatile depending on HOW you fish them. Don't be afraid to experiment and see what works for you.
A-Jay reply :
Blew a little dust off this one . . . . . .
A-Jay
padon reply :
I llike a creature bait a lot of times if I want some bulk,like in dirty water or thick grass.beavers seem to be best for me in spring like a jig when the fish seem to be on crayfish etc.i like them for flipping and pitching heavy cover as well. having said that ive caught tons of bass in summer grassbeds on a 10 inch ribbon tail worm too so I guess you don't always need the bulk of a creature.
Angry John reply :
I like the large worms for search baits or to use on the deep weed line. If i am in or near cover i will be on a baby brush hog or a beaver.
adam lancia reply :
How about this scenario: a lake I usually fish has only really produced on a shakeyhead. But, there's lots of isolated grass clumps along the bank and they look pretty fishy to me. The water is on the clearer side of things (3-4 feet of visibility) so I'm still going to try a beaver-style bait, but I was wondering about a longish ribbontail worm too. With the fish liking a finesse presentation like a shakeyhead, would they typically be more likely to go after a worm versus a beaver-style bait...? I realize there isn't a surefire 100% answer here, more wondering if anyone has has a similar experience.
TIA!
scaleface reply :
I could fish nothing but worms for the rest of my life and not miss a beat .
primetime reply :
One nice thing about a creature bait like a Zoom Speed craw or rage bug, Mighty bug etc. is you can use them to cover water faster than a big worm to find fish.
A creature bait can be buzzed like a frog, swam on bottom, and often will help you find fish. I like a big worm but I find fishing them really slow is how they usually work best, but you can also fish a big 10" worm on the surface as well, so never limit your self to thinking a certain bait is only for Flipping etc....
A 10-12" worm does seem to get better bites overall. I just find I do better if fishing slow, I never catch fish if I work them quickly like I can a Creature bait which can be a topwater, swimbait etc.
lo n slo reply :
my favorite creature bait is a lizard
BarefootBassin reply :
On 9/11/2017 at 9:25 PM, adam lancia said:How about this scenario: a lake I usually fish has only really produced on a shakeyhead. But, there's lots of isolated grass clumps along the bank and they look pretty fishy to me. The water is on the clearer side of things (3-4 feet of visibility) so I'm still going to try a beaver-style bait, but I was wondering about a longish ribbontail worm too. With the fish liking a finesse presentation like a shakeyhead, would they typically be more likely to go after a worm versus a beaver-style bait...? I realize there isn't a surefire 100% answer here, more wondering if anyone has has a similar experience.
TIA!
I've fished similar situations. As much as I am a large creature/worm junkie, I've found that downsizing to a smaller finesse jig with a small creature or beaver can work magic in high pressure/high clarity situations. A beaver would probably work well too, but there's just something about that flaring skirt that triggers more strikes. Try a small 1/4 or 3/16 oz jig with a smaller 3" beaver or creature. Baby brush hogs, 3" paca or chigger craws are good choices for trailers. You'll still get the big strikes too, like you normally would with a traditional size jig. Just be sure to work it really slow. I'll shake it and twitch it for a good minute near cover of any kind and watch them come out of the woodwork. This is the one scenario where I get way more bites on bottom than on the fall. Hope that helps.
adam lancia reply :
On 9/19/2017 at 3:27 AM, BarefootBassin said:I've fished similar situations. As much as I am a large creature/worm junkie, I've found that downsizing to a smaller finesse jig with a small creature or beaver can work magic in high pressure/high clarity situations. A beaver would probably work well too, but there's just something about that flaring skirt that triggers more strikes. Try a small 1/4 or 3/16 oz jig with a smaller 3" beaver or creature. Baby brush hogs, 3" paca or chigger craws are good choices for trailers. You'll still get the big strikes too, like you normally would with a traditional size jig. Just be sure to work it really slow. I'll shake it and twitch it for a good minute near cover of any kind and watch them come out of the woodwork. This is the one scenario where I get way more bites on bottom than on the fall. Hope that helps.
That is really helpful, I'll keep that in mind for the next time out. Thanks!
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