Alabama Rigs Outlawed In Your State? 2024
Outdoor reply :
Alabama rigs are outlawed in New Hampshire and I'm very glad to see that happen. The state doesn't recognize that as a lure...how about your state?
WookieeJedi reply :
It is still legal in Louisiana, and will likely stay that way. Inshore and saltwater guys have been using umbrella rigs for a long time. I have a suspicion that all this hype may be designed to sell lures. From what I can tell, it is working. I remember when the Senko first came out. That is a very simple rig that requires little skill to fish; and it wins tournaments, but nobody said anything about that. 10 years from now, the Bama rig will be just another tool, like Carolina rigs, Senkos, swimbaits, etc... It ain't magic.
Marty reply :
I don't know for sure, but my interpretation of New York's regulations says it's legal. If any fellow New Yorkers have a different interpretation or actual knowledge about the rig, I'd be interested in hearing it.
"An angler may operate no more than two lines, with or without rod, except that one person may operate up to three lines in freshwater; and each line is limited to not more than five lures or baits or a combination of both; and in addition, each line shall not exceed fifteen hook points in any combination of single, double or treble hooks."
Not_Here reply :
illegal in minnesota, considered multiple lures. can't even use the double fluke rig either...
Crestliner2008 reply :
We are only allowed one hook (lure) on each of two rods, or two lures on one rod, here in Massachusetts. We can't even "spider rig" for crappie here! After seeing Paul Alias kick butt last weekend on the FLW tour, it was an eye opener indeed. Even so, I wouldn't want them to do otherwise in this state. Just doesn't seem "sporting" to me.
aclark609 reply :
I live on the Arkansas/Missouri border. It's kind of outlawed in Missouri (3 hooks are allowed) but not outlawed in Arkansas. The lakes I fish run through both states so if I was going to throw it I'd have to be aware of which state I was in. I'd probably own one but wouldn't throw it unless I was having a terrible day and didn't want to leave empty handed.
CoBass reply :
Semi-legal here in Colorado. You can use one but only three hooks can be used. You can put five baits on the rig but only three of them can have hooks in them.
roadwarrior reply :
Someone doesn't like the Senko, it's too easy.
Another doesn't like The Rig, it's not sporting.
Fine by me...Fish what you like for fun, but if you don't fish either of these baits/rigs in tournaments,
you are going to get your butt handed to you. I don't fish tournaments, but I like "catching" a lot more
than just "fishing". I started fishing the Senko in 1997. I will fish The Rig this year.
NorcalBassin reply :
You can only use the Cal-Abama rig here (3 hooks like CO).
tbirds00 reply :
I believe it is legal here in wisconsin but only the three hook rig like some other states.
Blue Streak reply :
In Ohio it has always been illegal to use more than three hooks on one line.
Jacob34 reply :
I believe in Utah you can only have two hooks if I'm not mistaken. I was looking at them today at Sportsman's warehouse and they do look interesting.
BassWhole! reply :
You guys are over thinking this thing, you can rig it with as many or few baits as you'd like, just place the hook baits trailing by about 2-3 body lengths, and/or bunch up the hookless ones further forward on the same plane. The real advantage is the attracting and triggering, not the limit in one cast potential, also, there is nothing magical about 5 arms.
.ghoti. reply :
Not legal in Illinois. This is not a new regulation.
J Francho reply :
On 3/6/2012 at 8:44 AM, Marty said:I don't know for sure, but my interpretation of New York's regulations says it's legal. If any fellow New Yorkers have a different interpretation or actual knowledge about the rig, I'd be interested in hearing it.
"An angler may operate no more than two lines, with or without rod, except that one person may operate up to three lines in freshwater; and each line is limited to not more than five lures or baits or a combination of both; and in addition, each line shall not exceed fifteen hook points in any combination of single, double or treble hooks."
It's legal in NY waters. Not VT waters on Champlain or in Canadian waters.
Nice_Bass reply :
Yes, not legal here in IL- but really what is legal in IL???
Anyhow, I believe everyone derserves the right to give it a try, like it, love it, whatever they would like to feel. I also reserve the right to not like it and am glad I have not seen anyone tossing it around here- not to say they were not sold out at the local BPS though...
But really, in tourneys, I cannot believe it is legal- but sound boxes etc- where do you draw the line. One thing for sure is this is making producers of these rigs a lot of money.
Thad reply :
On 3/6/2012 at 9:54 PM, reason said:You guys are over thinking this thing, you can rig it with as many or few baits as you'd like, just place the hook baits trailing by about 2-3 body lengths, and/or bunch up the hookless ones further forward on the same plane. The real advantage is the attracting and triggering, not the limit in one cast potential, also, there is nothing magical about 5 arms.
Exactly. In Tennessee you can only have 3 baits with hooks and nothing else, no spinner blades or swimbaits without hooks. But, if you only use one swimbait with a hook then you can have as many other baits as you want. So I use two different A-Rigs for Tenessee. One has just three baits with three hooks, the other has five baits with one hook.
For those that think it is not ethical to throw it. WHY? You have two arguements. Either you are using too many hooks or it looks too much like a ball of shad. Do you throw treble hooks? Do you throw swimbaits? An A-Rig is basicall the same thing as a trout swimbait, only for a ball of shad.
tholmes reply :
From the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks website:
"Each angler is limited to two rods (three with three-pole permit) with no more than two baited hooks (single or treble) or artificial lures per line."
So, I guess it would be illegal in Kansas.
Tom
TommyBass reply :
I'd look into it REALLY deeply and question your local Conservation Officers and DNR officials. Its not always how it appears. Rules that cite 'hooks' and especially 'lures' are very grey matters.
Indiana recently ruled it is LEGAL to use even though we have a 2 hook or 2 'lure' limit. Here is where the "interpretation" comes into play. Many people argue that the Umbrella rig is actually 1 'lure', that has multiple hooks. Since it only has one tie point its actually arguable, and the rest is part of the lure single lure.
I really doubt too many states have a 2 or 3 hook "limit". Otherwise you couldn't even use a crankbait with a treble hook. That would be 3 hooks and your standard crankbait would have 6. I know, your thinking, well its a treble hook dummy... but thats the point. They don't specify how far apart the hooks on your treble must be 
Its how you interpret. A jerkbait has a wire that links all 3 treble hooks down the length of the lure body. Is that then illegal too in your state? There are a few states that leave no grey area in the matter, and it is for sure illegal. Some even specify that the rig itself is illegal.
Indiana solved the grey issue by making an amendment this year specifically targeting rigs such as the umbrella. It specifies them in particular so there is no interpretting about it.
Just trying to get you guys thinking and talking to your officials if you havn't yet, make sure you know for sure. It could just as easily be interpretted as illegal too if there are grey areas.
Tom, Kansas could interpret it the same way. It could be intrepreted as 1 "artifical lure". But since they have a 2 hook limit even on treble hooks, its highly unlikely they would see it that way.
States are all going to have to specifically mention lure harness's and rigs when its all said and done.
erau618 reply :
On 3/6/2012 at 10:41 PM, .ghoti. said:Not legal in Illinois. This is not a new regulation.
It is legal at certain lakes in Illinois.
.ghoti. reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 3:38 AM, erau618 said:It is legal at certain lakes in Illinois.
Cool. Which ones?
Outdoor reply :
I think if someone wants to have fun with the rig or any version there of ...that’s fine. I feel if you’re fishing any tournament in any state, regardless of size it should be illegal...I fish "mostly" for fun, sure its nice to win a tournament now and again but I don't get hung up over winning a few bucks. When enjoyment becomes stress you need quit, its like the guy who wraps his 9 iron around a tree. The Alabama rig is perfect for the guy that "has to" be the big tuna....that should start a feud.
Thad reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 7:03 AM, Outdoor said:I think if someone wants to have fun with the rig or any version there of ...that’s fine. I feel if you’re fishing any tournament in any state, regardless of size it should be illegal...I fish "mostly" for fun, sure its nice to win a tournament now and again but I don't get hung up over winning a few bucks. When enjoyment becomes stress you need quit, its like the guy who wraps his 9 iron around a tree. The Alabama rig is perfect for the guy that "has to" be the big tuna....that should start a feud.
But why should it be illegal? A lot of people say it should be but few offer a good reason why.
bwell reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 6:15 AM, .ghoti. said:Cool. Which ones?
Lake Shelbyville and Lake Egypt, and I think Taylorville Lake.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Here for illinois
http://www.ifishilli...labama_rig.html
Modify to just 2 hooks for most others
CoBass reply :
Colorado regs define a hook as any hook or multiple hooks sharing a common shank. A treble hook would be considered 1 hook even though it has 3 points. A standard crankbait with 2 treble hooks is not considered 6 hooks, only 2. An Alabama rig can be used but only 3 of the 5 baits can contain a hook.
WookieeJedi reply :
The clone I made only has 4 stations, a rig with 3 would be just as easy to make. There might just be a market in there worth exploiting for someone in states with hook restrictions. At $20 a pop, I might just be tempted to make some garage space for rig-building. I would bet local shops would buy all the legal rigs you could make.
citybassboy reply :
Here in Ontario, Alabama rigs are banned. BUUTTTTTTT that is because they have 5 or 6 hooks. IFFFFFF we use an umbrella rig that has 4 hooks, it is perfectly llegal. i am looking forward to using mine!
Ima Bass Ninja reply :
There is no info on our dnr website about it but i imagine it is legal for South Carolina since i see striper fisherman trolling multiple umbrella rigs allot.
Nice_Bass reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 11:22 AM, Thad said:But why should it be illegal? A lot of people say it should be but few offer a good reason why.
Because tourney fishing should not be turned into commercial style fishing (yes I know that its intent is not multi fish hookups, nonetheless...). Like I said, if folks want to use it fine- but everyone has a line in the sand that has to be drawn, and that is mine...what is yours? Should anglers in tourneys be allowed to troll, what about live bait, etc.
The concept is not new and i do not think that it turns a novice into a pro- I dont want them on my lakes however, and also do not want to see them in tourneys.
.ghoti. reply :
Thanks for the link Quake. I fish Shelbyville occasionally. I may have to get a couple rigs and give "em a shot.
This is what I like about Bass resource. Somebody always has an answer.
Bigbarge50 reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 11:22 AM, Thad said:But why should it be illegal? A lot of people say it should be but few offer a good reason why.
Devil's advocate...... broken off a rigs all over the lake. The arms seem to snap off those things constantly, besides for people losing them in cover and such. I know this may not sound like a big deal, but it is really an umbrella rig and if someone was losing an open umbrella a day in our lakes, we would be very unhappy.
Nice_Bass reply :
On 3/8/2012 at 1:07 AM, .ghoti. said:Thanks for the link Quake. I fish Shelbyville occasionally. I may have to get a couple rigs and give "em a shot.
This is what I like about Bass resource. Somebody always has an answer.
The IDNR legal staff, working with the Divisions of Fisheries and Law Enforcement, have determined that the Alabama rig IS legal in those waters in the state that do NOT have the "2 poles only with no more than 2 hooks or lures per pole regulation." Examples of those lakes where the Alabama rig is legal are the three Corps of Engineer lakes (Carlyle, Rend and Shelbyville), the Lake of Egypt and Kinkaid Lake. The Alabama rig is also legal on most rivers and streams, including the Mississippi River between Illinois and Missouri, but NOT between Illinois and Iowa. It is also legal on the Ohio River, including Smithland pool. In addition, the rig is legal on all private waters in the state.
http://www.ifishillinois.org/gofish/alabama_rig.html
J Francho reply :
QuoteDevil's advocate...... broken off a rigs all over the lake.
Might as well ban fishing altogether.
Anyway, discussion of whether you approve or disapprove of the rig, fishing ethics, and anything else off topic can be discussed elsewhere.
Let's keep this about where it IS and ISN'T legal.
bigbassctchr101 reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 1:39 AM, Thad said:Exactly. In Tennessee you can only have 3 baits with hooks and nothing else, no spinner blades or swimbaits without hooks. But, if you only use one swimbait with a hook then you can have as many other baits as you want. So I use two different A-Rigs for Tenessee. One has just three baits with three hooks, the other has five baits with one hook.
For those that think it is not ethical to throw it. WHY? You have two arguements. Either you are using too many hooks or it looks too much like a ball of shad. Do you throw treble hooks? Do you throw swimbaits? An A-Rig is basicall the same thing as a trout swimbait, only for a ball of shad.
Actually, you can use spinnerbait blades on them IF you use it on the same wire shank and the baits. So, 3 wires you could have blades on that wire before coming down at the snaps- where you then attach the bait.
Thad reply :
On 3/8/2012 at 3:34 AM, bigbassctchr101 said:Actually, you can use spinnerbait blades on them IF you use it on the same wire shank and the baits. So, 3 wires you could have blades on that wire before coming down at the snaps- where you then attach the bait.
Where did you get his information? I'm not questioning you, I just would like to know because that would be great.
So, by what you are saying is I can use three wires. One would be just for a bait. The other two could have a swimbait on them and a blade.
I haven't read anything that would imply this.
The article found on http://news.tn.gov/node/7994 says "Each blade of a spinner bait would be considered a lure."
WookieeJedi reply :
I tried mine out today. Nothing. I got fish on a chatterbait, a jerkbait, a frog, and a few on the Giron minnow in bluegill, but the Bama rig struck out. It looks good in the water, and I'm sure there will be times when it works, but magic, it ain't. I hope this doesn't wind up in that box with the helicopter lures... 
DpDvr reply :
Legal in Indiana untl January1, 2013. I am anxious to try one out this year.
Sherlock 60 reply :
On 3/7/2012 at 3:10 AM, TommyBass said:Indiana recently ruled it is LEGAL to use even though we have a 2 hook or 2 'lure' limit. Here is where the "interpretation" comes into play. Many people argue that the Umbrella rig is actually 1 'lure', that has multiple hooks. Since it only has one tie point its actually arguable, and the rest is part of the lure single lure.
Indiana solved the grey issue by making an amendment this year specifically targeting rigs such as the umbrella. It specifies them in particular so there is no interpretting about it.
This is all correct regarding the Alabama Rig in Indiana, but it specifically allowed for this year onlyas they do further research into the matter.
bigbassctchr101 reply :
On 3/8/2012 at 9:57 AM, Thad said:Where did you get his information? I'm not questioning you, I just would like to know because that would be great.
So, by what you are saying is I can use three wires. One would be just for a bait. The other two could have a swimbait on them and a blade.
I haven't read anything that would imply this.
The article found on http://news.tn.gov/node/7994 says "Each blade of a spinner bait would be considered a lure."
Actually- you can use 3 wires with 3 blades with 3 swimbaits.
I talked to this fella before the video came out. Not everyone has seen it, but I think its excellent for legal and illegal definitions. The question about the blades is around 5:45. I'd recommend everyone watching it in Tennessee though!
http://www.youtube.c...Wi4Gt-6Fo?rel=0
jeremyt reply :
Perfectly legal here in NC , and there are a few in my boat.
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