Advanced Senko Fishing 2024
Senko lover reply :
BTW MODS: I looked through every thread in the "senko" thread and feel like I have something to add to the discussion. Please feel free to move my thread out of here and into that thread if needed. This is not a discussion on best color/brand/hook/rig. I'm trying to delve more in-depth.
So I immediately fell in love with stickbaits last year when I got my first bag. I've been fishing them addictively ever since. Right now I'm trying to up my game. Here are some things I've learned.
-QUIET presentation is killer!
Especially when you're fishing it in shallow water, always utillize your ninja skills with a senko. I've gotten to the point where I feather the reel enough for the bait to enter the water without much of a splash at all. This is crucial. It doesn't matter what size, color, or rig you have with your bait. If you're not presenting it with the utmost care, it's simply not as effective.
-Experimentation with retrieve pays off.
Don't get caught into one retrieve. Sometimes the fish want a jerkbait-style retrieve; a pop-pop-rest with the rod tip down. This is what I use when I'm covering water. Then, once I get a bite (but not a hookup) on the faster retrieve or I reach some cover where I want to slow down, I switch to letting the bait fall and twich twitch twitch it up, then let it fall gain, with the rod tip up. Then sometimes I do a mix of the two, letting it fall and then popping it up with my rod to the side. I let the fish tell me what they want. Sometimes the faster, higher in the water column retrieve is what they're looking for, and sometimes they want me to slow down. Either way, I've got to find out. Experimentation is key.
-Don't get stuck in a rut with your wacky rig.
A 'wacky rig' is typically having the hook right in the middle of your bait. Well, often I'll change it up a little and put the hook farther down the bait, not making the rig symmetrical & the hook in the middle. What it will do is one end will fall faster than the other. You're still fishing it like a wacky rig, but it gives the fish a little something different to look at. This comes into play ESPECIALLY around cover, particularly logs. If I had senkos (and rods) to waste and I was fishing logs, I would have three wacky rigs rigged up: one regular, one rigged offset to the left, and one rigged offset to the right. The offset baits are for fishing the sides of the logs. Instead of falling right on the side of the log, they'll fall down underneath the log because one side is heavier than the other. This is something to keep in mind. Helps you get those pressured fish out from under logs.
Hope this helps you go forward in your senko fishing game. Comment your own out-of-the-ordinary tips and tricks for utilizing this bait.
Mccallister25 reply :
Uh oh...
Big C reply :
Good idea on the wacky variations, but like I said my favorite use for a senko: melt in a microwave and pour in a swimbait mold.
Ozark_Basser reply :
Oh no he di'int lol.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
VIVA LA SENKO
Uncle Leo reply :
I suppose he just loves Senkos
Matthew2000 reply :
Stealthy. I couldn't disagree more, i catch tons of fish being loud and obnoxious.
Senko lover reply :
Alright, I give up. Just delete the dang thread. 
ABW reply :
Happy "Senko" de Mayo lol.
Ozark_Basser reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 9:06 AM, ABW said:Happy "Senko" de Mayo lol.
Now that's funny!
Big C reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 8:53 AM, Matthew2000 said:Stealthy. I couldn't disagree more, i catch tons of fish being loud and obnoxious.
So many jokes could be built off the "being loud and obnoxious" but I'll pass. 
Happy Senko de Mayo everyone.
Senko lover reply :
Bernie Schultz thought of this one long before ya'll did..............http://www.bassmaster.com/blog/senko-de-mayo#
Matthew2000 reply :
Well played....Again.On 5/6/2015 at 9:16 AM, Big C said:So many jokes could be built off the "being loud and obnoxious" but I'll pass.
Happy Senko de Mayo everyone.
hoosierbass07 reply :
Senko Lover, when you fish senkos, do you use weights or go weightless?
Senko lover reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 9:35 AM, hoosierbass07 said:Senko Lover, when you fish senkos, do you use weights or go weightless?
Almost always wacky weightless. I fish very shallow ponds.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 9:36 AM, Senko lover said:Almost always wacky weightless. I fish very shallow ponds.
So would these "advanced" techniques work in lakes. I can catch fish on just about anything in a pond. A large lake is a VERY different story. I once thought I was a good fishermen, when I fished ponds.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 10:21 AM, jbsoonerfan said:So would these "advanced" techniques work in lakes. I can catch fish on just about anything in a pond. A large lake is a VERY different story. I once thought I was a good fishermen, when I fished ponds.
Heres an article (by Gary Dobyns) that includes some big lakes
http://www.insideline.net/index.php/column-rods-n-rigs/1510-rods-n-rigs-my-top-5-senko-lakes
jbsoonerfan reply :
Gary Dobyns probably isn't familiar with these advanced techniques. I'm mainly concerned with how I can use these particular techniques. Would "almost always wacky weightless" work in 20 foot of water? I suppose I'm not patient enough to use it in this scenario, but I can see where in a pond with 4' of water it would work much better.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 10:58 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Gary Dobyns probably isn't familiar with these advanced techniques. I'm mainly concerned with how I can use these particular techniques. Would "almost always wacky weightless" work in 20 foot of water? I suppose I'm not patient enough to use it in this scenario, but I can see where in a pond with 4' of water it would work much better.
Well I personally dont fish BIG lakes, mostly 300 acres and less, but do regularly fish wacky weightless senkos 20-25' deep with success.
In deep water it can be 2 presentations in one cast. 1 You have the long fall to get any suspending bass that see it falling by. Once on bottom drag hop twitch it along the bottom for the 2nd. Many times working senko across bottom has worked better than a jig worked across bottom for me.
bigturtle reply :
you throw weightless plastics in 20+ feet of water? why would you wait for 20-40secs every cast just to use that lure? talk about inefficient.....
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 11:27 AM, bigturtle said:you throw weightless plastics in 20+ feet of water? why would you wait for 20-40secs every cast just to use that lure? talk about inefficient.....
That was exactly what I was thinking.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 11:27 AM, bigturtle said:you throw weightless plastics in 20+ feet of water? why would you wait for 20-40secs every cast just to use that lure? talk about inefficient.....
Whats inefficient to one may not be to another. I make less casts but the lure is presented longer. Is making 100 casts really more efficient, not to me. I do it because I have experienced that it works over and over and over over years of use and works better than other lures at times.
MIbassyaker reply :
And, of course, you're only waiting 20-40 seconds every cast if the bass aren't suspending. If my goal is to get down TO 20 feet as fast as possible, I'm not going to use a weightless senko; but I've certainly found them efficient at times IN 20 feet of water.
Brayberry reply :
I'm thrilled to see another Senko thread, seriously. They always get locked, but there is some good info here thats "new" and not in any of the standard Senko threads. I hope we can keep this one going with more tips. Thanks!
Senko lover reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 10:21 AM, jbsoonerfan said:So would these "advanced" techniques work in lakes. I can catch fish on just about anything in a pond. A large lake is a VERY different story. I once thought I was a good fishermen, when I fished ponds.
Well, does topwater work in that large lake? I mean, the fish can be very shallow even in a large lake. Fishing a senko in that situation can be just like a fluke or a trick worm. And sometimes large lakes have shallow areas with cover that's perfect for senkos and the techniques I discussed. Dock fisherman love senkos for skipping under docks in lakes.
For what it's worth, if I was senko fishing 20+ FOW, I would use a wacky jighead.
the reel ess reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 10:21 AM, jbsoonerfan said:So would these "advanced" techniques work in lakes. I can catch fish on just about anything in a pond. A large lake is a VERY different story. I once thought I was a good fishermen, when I fished ponds.
My first cast with a purple Senko was on a big lake and it caught a bass. It was on a stump that's just below the surface that tends to hold a bass or two at certain times. So, yes, if there is a specific target in mind, a Senko is a good bait to toss there. I really thought I was onto a pattern but I didn't get another bite the rest of that fine Feb day with any bait.
BrianinMD reply :
I am one who will fish a weightless senko in 20ft of water also, caught a lot of very good fish doing it. Is it efficient, obviously no but my goal is to catch fish not see how many cast I can make. If they want to eat a senko like that I will be more than happy to feed it to them.
Primus reply :
I do well pitching into openings through shallow grass with a 1/4 oz pegged tungsten sinker , it goes through very well . This is a great technique postspawn or for trying to target the female when the males are still on the beds . That's what I like most about the lure is that it is very versatile and not just a wacky rig bait .
the reel ess reply :
Senko Lover, here are some advanced "wacky" questions.
Do you use an O ring for the hook? If not, do you hook it in-line with the worm or across the body? What hook do you like? How hard do you set the hook? I'm seeing a hard hookset is not my friend with a smaller hook. If I wait till I see the line moving away on a slack line, I'm hooking too many near the throat. Sometimes I have to get the hook out through the gills. How can I minimize this? I'm practically using a circle hook as it is.
I've been using a 1/0 Gamakatsu Finesse hook. But I'm finding I miss maybe 40% of the fish that hit. I'm suspecting too much of the hook is in the plastic, so I bought some O rings yesterday. They thought that was funny at the local hardware store. I bought all they had.
Catt reply :
Senko Lover
First when ya post something expect it to be critiqued
Second learn to accept criticism
Third ya aint said nothing new or advanced
Alonerankin2 reply :
Senko lover said:
Challenge accepted. Did I create a senko thread with some new info? ( received via PM )
It was not a challenge, only a vain attempt on my part to assist in your love of "Senkos" I did not know you were aware of the extensive information that is available on the topic... Like I said before, there is nothing new under the sun concerning a senko, not a thing. You have been fishing them for 1 year. Since it is new to you, I felt that posting the link would assist you, not challenge you...( quite frankly, a lot of fishermen miss the abundant information that BassResource has avail..) no harm meant I can assure you..
J Francho reply :
Two things. I watched Dean Rojas skip a frog all over Oneida When he didn't need to. When asked about it, he said the skip was part of the presentation. Hmmm, I now skip cast every time with a senko. Pete Gluzik showed us how a 6-7" senko would do all sorts of crazy stuff when fished Texas style with a pegged 1/16th bullet weight. He also skips them every time. Something about the entry and the weight makes the bait do loopy loops.
the reel ess reply :
Senko Lover,
Please see my questions on pg 2. Thanks.
Catt reply :
In 2003 not long after the Senko hit the market Russ (***) Comeau, Gary Yamamoto, & George Welcome wrote an artical on ways to fish it. Every thing read here since that time was in that artical with the exception of o-rings.
J Francho reply :
I bet there's an old article for every thread on this site, lol.
DocNsanE reply :
I'd rather contribute to the current discussion than argue whether it's been said before or not (which is almost certainly has). If the mods don't like it, they can lock it.
I have had a lot of success with senko style baits (I typically throw Yum Dingers).
Just like J Franco, I find skipping the bait when in shallow water makes a huge difference.
I've also fished it effectively on a weightless wacky rig in about 10' of water with submerged vegetation. I have an excellent hook up ratio using an octopus hook. Often it will just land on top of the vegetation, and when it falls into the vegetation I will slowly lift the tip of my rod and let it fall again (I know this is very basic but leads to my next point...). Often when lifting the bait, I will hang in some grass, just shake it a couple of times and let it fall back on a slack line and this entices a huge number of strikes.
Once again I know I'm not offering anything new here... but I love senkos too 
the reel ess reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 3:13 AM, DocNsanE said:I'd rather contribute to the current discussion than argue whether it's been said before or not (which is almost certainly has). If the mods don't like it, they can lock it.
I have had a lot of success with senko style baits (I typically throw Yum Dingers).
Just like J Franco, I find skipping the bait when in shallow water makes a huge difference.
I've also fished it effectively on a weightless wacky rig in about 10' of water with submerged vegetation. I have an excellent hook up ratio using an octopus hook. Often it will just land on top of the vegetation, and when it falls into the vegetation I will slowly lift the tip of my rod and let it fall again (I know this is very basic but leads to my next point...). Often when lifting the bait, I will hang in some grass, just shake it a couple of times and let it fall back on a slack line and this entices a huge number of strikes.
Once again I know I'm not offering anything new here... but I love senkos too
What size octopus hook?
Senko lover reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 7:37 PM, the reel ess said:Senko Lover, here are some advanced "wacky" questions.
Do you use an O ring for the hook? If not, do you hook it in-line with the worm or across the body? What hook do you like? How hard do you set the hook? I'm seeing a hard hookset is not my friend with a smaller hook. If I wait till I see the line moving away on a slack line, I'm hooking too many near the throat. Sometimes I have to get the hook out through the gills. How can I minimize this? I'm practically using a circle hook as it is.
I've been using a 1/0 Gamakatsu Finesse hook. But I'm finding I miss maybe 40% of the fish that hit. I'm suspecting too much of the hook is in the plastic, so I bought some O rings yesterday. They thought that was funny at the local hardware store. I bought all they had.
- I have been experimenting with electrical tape and like it so far. No I don't use O-rings
-I use a 2/0 EWG hook
-I set the hook as hard as I can whenever I see a jump in the line
-Sometimes the fish just like to choke it. I can't really prevent it.
-I would switch to a slightly bigger hook. 3/0 EWG works well too.
Senko lover reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 8:33 PM, Catt said:Senko Lover
First when ya post something expect it to be critiqued
Second learn to accept criticism
Third ya aint said nothing new or advanced
How was I not expecting it to be critiqued? I said "just delete the thread" because I didn't see it going anywhere with the whole "Senko de mayo" thing.
I'm still learning to accept criticism. It's something I'll get better at as I continue to mature. Bear with me
I haven't seen it all when it comes to senkos so I'm sure you're right.
Senko lover reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 12:30 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Senko lover said:
Challenge accepted. Did I create a senko thread with some new info? ( received via PM )
It was not a challenge, only a vain attempt on my part to assist in your love of "Senkos" I did not know you were aware of the extensive information that is available on the topic... Like I said before, there is nothing new under the sun concerning a senko, not a thing. You have been fishing them for 1 year. Since it is new to you, I felt that posting the link would assist you, not challenge you...( quite frankly, a lot of fishermen miss the abundant information that BassResource has avail..) no harm meant I can assure you..
Point accepted. I still have a lot to learn.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
On 5/6/2015 at 11:27 AM, bigturtle said:you throw weightless plastics in 20+ feet of water? why would you wait for 20-40secs every cast just to use that lure? talk about inefficient.....
I wait that long, at least, on quite a few occasions fishing a Hudd.
On cold days, I could almost consider your timeline as "fishing fast"
5fishlimit reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 3:51 AM, Senko lover said:I'm still learning to accept criticism. It's something I'll get better at as I continue to mature. Bear with me
Don't feel too bad. There's people on her twice and three times your age that still cannot accept criticism. Just read about every other thread on Bassresource!
Matthew2000 reply :
I can't see a EWG coming through weeds very well.On 5/7/2015 at 3:47 AM, Senko lover said:- I have been experimenting with electrical tape and like it so far. No I don't use O-rings
-I use a 2/0 EWG hook
-I set the hook as hard as I can whenever I see a jump in the line
-Sometimes the fish just like to choke it. I can't really prevent it.
-I would switch to a slightly bigger hook. 3/0 EWG works well too.
cgolf reply :
I only fish the swim senko, but had had a lot of luck with the slider spider heads to give if a faster drop. I don't swim it, but let it drop sit for a time pop it a couple of times reel in and repeat. The oddest bit of the retrieve is 90 percent of the time they picked the silly thing off the bottom when it was just sitting.
As for weightless in 20 ft, not for me. I would look elsewhere for active fish, not about making 100s of casts, just about finding the easiest fish to catch in the lake.
Again nothing new, while I hate the standard senko, love the swim senko.
Penguino reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 5:10 AM, Matthew2000 said:I can't see a EWG coming through weeds very well.
No matter the size of the hook, a texas rig is still probably one of the most weedless and effective rigs for fishing through light cover.
BassThumbAddict reply :
I base my fishing trips on how many casts I can make in my allowed time...........
Stirring the pot.
the reel ess reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 8:00 AM, Penguino said:No matter the size of the hook, a texas rig is still probably one of the most weedless and effective rigs for fishing through light cover.
He meant wacky rigging with an EWG hook.
Matthew2000 reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 8:55 AM, the reel ess said:He meant wacky rigging with an EWG hook.
Indeed.
jbsoonerfan reply :
Some of this stuff is pretty advanced. Almost earth shattering.
DocNsanE reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 3:28 AM, the reel ess said:What size octopus hook?
I think it's a 2/0, probably bigger than it needs to be but I haven't had any issues with it, and I feel comfortable fishing with a medium heavy in vegetation and giving it a good hookset.
Penguino reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 8:55 AM, the reel ess said:He meant wacky rigging with an EWG hook.
On 5/7/2015 at 8:57 AM, Matthew2000 said:Indeed.
Shoot my fault. I have never heard of wacky rigging a senko with a EWG hook. How exactly would that work?
DocNsanE reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 5:10 AM, Matthew2000 said:I can't see a EWG coming through weeds very well.
As I said earlier, my Octopus hook gets hung up in weeds all the time, but for me it's actually helped. If you're moving your rod tip slowly, when you feel it snag, you can just release some tension and let it flutter back and you're fine.
Crutch reply :
I am actually finding the discussion interesting. I may actually try using a weightless senko in deep water and see what it produces next time.
Rez reply :
He's a kid, cut him some slack!On 5/7/2015 at 9:32 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Some of this stuff is pretty advanced. Almost earth shattering.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 11:18 AM, Rez said:He's a kid, cut him some slack!
I'm cutting him plenty of slack. But when someone who has been doing something for a year in ponds is going to try and act like they are rewriting the books, then I want it to be something I have never heard of.
southernson1989 reply :
Wasn't it bill dance who won a tournament from the bank with a plastic worm when he was young. Don't knock the pond fisherman. The guy who shows up with his 20lb tacklebox and six rods at the local pond when his boat is in the shop and needs his bass fix is always outfished by the teenager with one or two rods and a zip lock of lures in his back pack. While my teen years have started becoming distant memories I still try most of my lures out at ponds first in the local park. Park ponds are some of the most heavily fished waters and a breeding ground for innovation. As for wacky rigging in general me and my dad just thought it was a different way to hook a trick worm a long time before we had a computer to read all the latest techniques. I'm sure we didnt do it first but we were the first on our lake and it was pretty much the product of some guys who had thrown every bait they had with no results and tried something else on a whim. We never heard of anyone else doing it before and thought it would be something the fish hadn't seen. We tore em up. Sometimes a couple inches one way or the other is all it takes. Keep doing what your doing senko lover.
SirSnookalot reply :
It's apparent this young man is a senko lover. Even though I don't fish senkos I appreciate his effort in trying to pass on information. If but one person has learned something, the thread has served it's purpose.
massrob reply :
I learned something and I appreciate this kid trying to help people that just started fishing like me. Probably not what guys that have been fishing for 30 years want to read but I do. I hope that people giving him crap about it doesn't stop him from posting.
Senko lover reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 1:36 PM, SirSnookalot said:It's apparent this young man is a senko lover. Even though I don't fish senkos I appreciate his effort in trying to pass on information. If but one person has learned something, the thread has served it's purpose.
Thanks SirSnookalot.
You know, I just got into bass fishing about a year ago. I read and watched as much as I could, took what I learned out on the water, and I feel like my skill level has improved over the year. That said, I am by no means an expert.
This thread was intended to help people like me who have started to fish senkos a lot to up their game. I'm not trying to rock the fishing world with some tricks that no one's seen before. I'm trying to create a fresh thread that helps people like me who haven't seen it all with some info that hasn't been said much on here before. I know, because I've looked through a lot of senko threads. Obviously people have talked about a quiet presentation and such before but some of what I posted hasn't been brought out on BR much, at least in the past year, if not the past fishing history.
Shutting up about a topic because it's been discussed a lot before doesn't help answer the new people's questions. I really care about helping newer people learn how to fish better. That's one of my passions. It's why I've written several articles on the main section of BR. My series on setting up a baitcaster is the same way. Obviously if you've been fishing for twenty years with a baitcaster, you're not going to gain anything from my series. If you've been fishing a senko for 30 or 40 years, this thread is not news to you. If you're more experienced and have seen it all, this thread really wasn't intended for you.
Hope this clarifies my intention.
I'm trying not to make this a battleground. I've seen plenty of people lose their tempers over the course of my time on here. I'm not going to be one of them. Please try to help advance the discussion. If you don't think this thread is anything special, no one's requiring you to read + post on it.
Senko lover reply :
Alright. About the whole quiet presentation thing. You guys have helped me see that in a different light, or at least clarify what I said.
I did put this before it: "especially when you're fishing it in shallow water." The ponds where I throw senkos are shallow and pressured. So what I said is something I've found to be very true for me.
However, the fish might not be the same for you. I'm gonna have to mix it up and experiment with skipping. J. Franco's post intrigued me. But I have found that a quiet presentation will trump a noisy one every time for me.
Senko lover reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 11:22 AM, jbsoonerfan said:I'm cutting him plenty of slack. But when someone who has been doing something for a year in ponds is going to try and act like they are rewriting the books, then I want it to be something I have never heard of.
Don't let anybody tell you that catching fish in a pond is as easy as catching fish from a barrel. My favorite pond is a small neighborhood body of water that recieves a ton of pressure. When you have a pond that small, and everybody fishes it, it's tough to catch fish sometimes. What if the fish in that barrel don't want to bite? Kinda hard to catch them.
Through a friend there at the pond who has figured them out, I have learned a lot about the fish in that pond and can usually catch them every time out. Senkos and some of the tricks I talked about helped me do that.
Catt reply :
Senko Lover, I enjoy your enthusiasm for bass fishing and your love of the Senko
Fishing plastics is about rate of fall, different size Senkos & different brands of stick baits all have different rates of fall.
Different sizes & styles of hooks can change rate if fall
A weightless T-rigged Senko has a different action on the fall than a Wacky one.
Ya think a Wacky Senko is all that try a Trick Worm, Tapout Worm, Robo Worm, or any straight tail worm.
At 14 you've only gotten through the first layer of the onion!
danno054 reply :
I think you need to change you name from Senko Lover to Senko'holic
I learned something from this thread! Looking at the Bassmaster senko de mayo I had never thought about using one as a jig trailer. Has anyone had success doing this? Or as a traitor for spinnerbait?
gardnerjigman reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 8:03 PM, Catt said:Senko Lover, I enjoy your enthusiasm for bass fishing and your love of the Senko
At 14 you've only gotten through the first layer of the onion!
Shoot... he is probably just taking the onion out of the bag! BUT, it's that enthusiasm and willingness/hunger to learn and grow in the sport that will keep him successful.
Good post, nothing new, but it inspired good conversation and put it in front of eyes that may not have any info on senkos.
FYI, you've gotta start skip casting things!
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 5/8/2015 at 12:01 AM, Big C said:Sometimes it takes new people to come up with new ideas.
There is not going to be a "new" way to fish a senko that hasn't already been done. Even some of the "new" techniques aren't new.
J Francho reply :
New, old…not a darn person will know about them if no one posts about it.
Seriously guys, what is it that you think these forums are for, keeping secrets because you already know it all?
Either help a guy out and contribute, or move on if your above the thread content. Remember, for every person that posts, there are untold numbers that do not.
Big C reply :
On 5/7/2015 at 11:22 AM, jbsoonerfan said:I'm cutting him plenty of slack. But when someone who has been doing something for a year in ponds is going to try and act like they are rewriting the books, then I want it to be something I have never heard of.
1. It takes new people to come up with new ideas.
2. If you think fishing a highly pressured pond is easier than fishing a full-sized bass fishing lake your'e wrong.
If you were right and pond fishing was easier to fish there would be no need for bass boats.
Let's put it this way which hypethetical body of water would you rather fish pond A or lake B?
Pond A. This pond is 5-15 acres in size (which in some cases may be generous). It's biggest fish may only be 3-4 lbs. It is hammered all day by bucket fishermen and guys throwing t-rigs. And there are only 3 real places with cover they are; a couple laydowns, one good point, and a cove with lilypads, these areas are obvious and magnets for fishermen and get hit hard all day. The fish in this pond probably see a lure a day.
Lake B. This lake is easily 5-10 times bigger than the pond. The biggest fish in the lake may break the state record it has infinite amounts of cover, thousands of points, docks, ect. This lake has a full parking lot, but once you're on the water you barely see anybody. The fish in the lake may only see a lure every other week (if that).
I don't know about you, but I'm fishing the lake.
MIbassyaker reply :
"New" is relative, and it doesn't mean the same thing as "advanced" anyway.
At the bait shop I go to most often, it still happens pretty frequently that while I'm in there, I'll see one of the clerks (or someone else) showing a package of senko-style baits to someone who's never used them, explaining how a basic wacky rig works. Nothing "advanced" about that particular advice, but it's still new to someone.
primetime reply :
You need to google the Stupid rig, Idiot Rig or some call it the Roller Rig...All about a loud spash down in shallow water after rain is best, under bridges, and a larger worm is best imo, 6-7" weightless, lob it up, get a good splash to get attention, then work the worm like a zara spook but make sure it breaks the surface a few times like if skipping a bait to give the impression the bait is being chased. I like to work it fast and kill it every 10 feet, only use this technique for 5 minutes tops, when it works it is amazing, when it doesn't.....well, you look stupid.
Their is a story behind this theory, Bass after long rains are not used stained water, eyes have not adjusted, the sound makes them curious, competitive instinct, big bait = easy meal, but often muddy water Bass either stay on weedlines to feel safe, or they go shallow where over hanging trees are, and lizards, snakes, insects, frogs all fall out of the trees, and I first witnessed this years ago but didn't understand why the guy was using a Carolina rig with 1 ounce and a large Fluke style bait in 3-4' of water, hard bottom featureless, meanwhile tall grass line was a good 8-10' away...He won the tournament, and he told me he didn't want to spook the fish he knew were in the grass, he knew the lake, said the bass are curious by nature, and on that flat they often heard big threadfin shad against the grass on windy days and the wind was blowing on that shoreline and grass line that day. He cleaned up, and the Stupid rig story is from a story that happened on a major tournament years ago, I stole this concept or technique, I altered it with a Senko after seeing how good the MJ rig was with a larger worm when fished stupid fast and by accident it broke water one day as I was reeling it in and it was smashed.....We ended up landing a dozen fish the first time we burned senko's on the surface and they choked it while moving or right after killing it after it skipped the surface, beads or rattles help....UV GEL as well, when it works it works...No joke, it is a funny story how the rig first got the name....I would have been the guy who was talking about the idiot ruining my spot by spooking fish only to see him win by a large margin...Now I always listen to any tip anyone gives me and try it not only when I am not catching anything, most people try techniques or new lures only when nothing is working not even live bait and then say it is no good. Kind of like the review "Best lure ever, 6lber first cast"...Personally, I hate first cast fish, it is a jinx imo.
Big C reply :
On 5/8/2015 at 12:04 AM, jbsoonerfan said:There is not going to be a "new" way to fish a senko that hasn't already been done. Even some of the "new" techniques aren't new.
What? All due respect. You can't say that there will never be another "new" way to fish a Senko, if it's not been tried yet. That doesn't make sense.
I don't even like them, but there will always be fresh ideas even if it seems everything has been tried.
primetime reply :
I thought you made good points in your thread...Loook at all the responses you received..I would say you made some good points, and was well written, If people never experiment and share there results then fishing never makes the next leap forward....For every idea you think is good, someone else who is also a good angler will always disagree with you, that is what makes fishihg so good, you never know when and where and often I learn more from a person I take fishing for his first time than I do from someone who is reading the same magazines I am...Not having any expectations except catching fish makes new fisherman successful many times no matter what you give them, even a pink worm and blue hook.
jbsoonerfan reply :
Oh, there is no telling what has been tried. I dont think there is going to be anything new.
primetime reply :
The MJ rig on the Timmy Horton show a couple years ago was fresh and new.....No?
Catt reply :
On 5/8/2015 at 9:41 AM, primetime said:The MJ rig on the Timmy Horton show a couple years ago was fresh and new.....No?
No!
hatrix reply :
I never looked at this because frankly I despise senkos. That is just me though. But man... Some of you guys are being D bags to him and your plenty old enough to know better. Would you get on some random teenagers crap you never meet and don't really know in real life like this? I doubt it and if so your a terrible individual 
I get it that nothing was earth shattering and totally blew your socks off but you don't have to be so negative. Some people just want to belittle everything on here and doesn't help anyone. Even the fact that he fishes some ponds. Soooo many people on here fish ponds and also lakes. They are not less of a fisherman when they decided to walk a bank that day then when they are out on the water. He has fished fora year and everyone start out fishing ponds. You have to get it in where you can plain and simple. For all you know the places he fishes could be hard as $h!t to catch fish. If over his time fishing senkos he decide he had something to contribute then let him and let it be. Just like Franco said there is so many people who read stuff on here but NEVER post anything and I am sure something in here hold value for some people an that's all that matters.
Zach Nute reply :
On 5/8/2015 at 9:19 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Oh, there is no telling what has been tried. I dont think there is going to be anything new.
Did your mom ever tell you as a child that "If you have nothing nice to say, than don't say anything at all"?
Respect is huge where in my household. SenkoLover was simply posting about a passion he has, he doesn't need to be scolded or bashed upon his post. If you had constructive criticism, or a better way of doing what he was explaining, then fine. He is the future in this sport that we all love and enjoy. The more people you rag on, the less we may have.
Gmay1 reply :
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