Still Confused 2025
pondbassin101 reply :
I'm still confused about what power/action I should get on an all around casting rod. I'm gonna be fishing anything from senkos to crankbaits in mostly open water and I could really use some help. Thanks
Stingray23 reply :
Whats your budget?
pondbassin101 reply :
Under $100
Stingray23 reply :
Thats a tuff one. The problem is that crankbaits need a moderate action and senkos need a faster action. The reason I asked for the budget is because I think Megabass Orochi XX rods are very versatile. You CAN use one rod that will cover many techniques.
What kind of cranks do you have in mind? deep? mid? shallow?
pondbassin101 reply :
There are rods 50% off on Fisherman's Factory Outlet
Stingray23 reply :
link?
pondbassin101 reply :
Mostly squarebill and shallow cranks
http://www.ffo-tackle.com/
Stingray23 reply :
You can use a mod/fast-fast action rod for shallow/squarebill cranks and worms/senkos.
pondbassin101 reply :
What about power?
Fishin' Fool reply :
From the techniques you described you would be best suited with 2 rods. 1) A medium or medium-heavy with either fast or extra fast action. 2) A medium heavy moderate to moderate fast action rod. In the Daiwa line that is considered regular action. Happy shopping.
Stingray23 reply :
Depends. Generally, medium-MH is used for cranks and MH-H for senkos, worms, jigs. The lure rating of a rod will tell you a lot too. How about the new Daiwa Tatula XT rods?
pondbassin101 reply :
How much are they?
Stingray23 reply :
$99.99 and you should be able to get 10% off from a forum vendor.
The Daiwa Tatula XT Casting Rods deliver tournament-proven performance at a price that won’t break the bank. Daiwa’s Zero G design makes the blanks incredibly lightweight, while also providing serious hook-setting power, and Daiwa’s exclusive HVF carbon blank technology delivers incredible sensitivity, as well as, optimum actions for a variety of techniques. The blanks also feature Daiwa’s X45 Bias graphite fiber construction that helps them resist twisting for less stress on the rod, greater strength, and increased hook-setting power.
Premium Fuji Aluminum Oxide Guides span each blank and offer serious durability as well as increased casting performance. Fuji ACS Reel Seats provide a comfortable base for your reel, while also remaining lightweight, and EVA split grip handles balance out each rod perfectly. Perfect for a wide range of bass fishing applications, the Daiwa Tatula XT Casting Rods do it all for a great price.
-Zero G Design - lightweight with hook-setting power
-X45 bias graphite fiber construction
-HVF carbon construction
-Optimum action with rigidity and strength
-Fuji Aluminum Oxide Ring Guides
-Fuji ACS Reel Seats
Daiwa Tatula XT Casting Rod 7' Medium
Its a fast action with lure ranges from 1/4oz-3/4oz so it will cover a lot.
pondbassin101 reply :
What about Fenwick HMX
Stingray23 reply :
I really dont know, but I do know that Fenwick always made a nice rod. Your biggest issue is the dual purpose techniques. I feel the Japanese companies do a better job of making a more versatile rod. Maybe someone else can comment of the Fenwick.
pondbassin101 reply :
I have a spinning rod I could use for senkos so that could clear up some issues
Stingray23 reply :
Well, that helps. They make dedicated cranking rods in that Daiwa Tatula XT rods too. Check TW
pondbassin101 reply :
I'm fishing alot of stuff besides crankbaits
Stingray23 reply :
Ok, then you gotta decide. I gave you a good option. Have you researched this anywhere else but here?
pondbassin101 reply :
Not really
I just want to know whether to get med/med heavy or mod fast/fast
bigturtle reply :
get a med/fast
Catt reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 10:45 AM, bigturtle said:get a med/fast
H2O Express or All Star from Academy at $49.99-99.99
bigfruits reply :
if i had one rod it would be a MedHeavy power Fast action baitcast combo about 7' long.
my second rod would be Medium power Fast or Extra Fast action spinning combo about 7'.
i wouldnt get a moderate action rod unless it was dedicated for medium to deep diving crankbaits.
new2BC4bass reply :
I like Stingray's suggestion. I used a MF for crankbaits for quite awhile before getting a dedicated rod. I've not used the XT model, but have some of the original Tatula rods. A couple in the Regular action. I'm one who thought that type of action was best suited for treble hooks. These rods are changing my opinion. I now feel a Med-Fast action is more versatile than that. The HMX rods at FFO are both MH-MF with a lure range of 1/4-1 1/4 oz. which is a nice range for all-around. I've not used an HMX, but...unlike some makers such as Abu....I have found Fenwick rods to be pretty close to their ratings and often able to go just a little lower than the listing. I don't normally try to push the high end on any rod. Instead I use a heavier power rod.
My first choice in your situation would be the 7' MF Stingray suggested. Especially if it is anywhere near as good as the original Tatulas. I don't see a MH being needed in open water as long as a Medium will handle the weight lures you will be fishing. Braid would give you more hooking power with the HMX rods for single hook applications. My understanding is the Berkley Lightning rods have slower actions since they were designed for braid use. A little less drag would help when fishing crankbaits and braid. My brother-in-law uses only 40# PP and only spinning rods. His two go to lures are a 10" unweighted ribbontail worm and an F-11 Rapala. He uses cheap rods from Walmart. I doubt any have a fast action. He catches plenty of fish, and seldom loses any.
WIGuide reply :
Depending on what you have for a spinning rod, I'd go with either a M/F or MH/F for all around use. Pick the one that has ratings the closest to what you throw. Is it going to be perfect for everything? Nope, but it'll make due. If you're going to be fishing anything with treble hooks, just be sure to back the drag off considerably and that'll save you a few fish. Having a full arsenal or rods at your disposal is nice, and once you have that you won't want to go back to just one, but when you're building you make due with what you have until you can build things up.
pondbassin101 reply :
I have a M/F spinning rod
Knightiac reply :
I'd suggest a M/F. You can cover a lot with that, grab one that has a sturdy backbone and you will be fine for setting the hooks on jigs, frogs, and all that. On moving baits where you'd want a moderate tip you can just back off of the hookset or loosen the drag a little bit. I bank fish quite a bit and got tired of having a dedicated crank rod, so ended up selling it no less than three months after buying it. I'm a big fan of the M/F St Croix Mojo Bass. It's a tad over budget but has a sturdy backbone that allows you to be versatile.
If you're looking at a casting rod, it's $120. Spinning is $110.
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