The lakes I fish a lot of are not the best cranking or spinnerbait lakes from my experience, I use a lot of flukes, I'm looking at the Shimano Worm & Jig rod that I believe to be a medium heavy, it's the 99 dollar one.
Would that be a good match? Or would a heavier rod be better for the weightless flukes?
I use a 6'8" M/XF. MedHeavy is a bit stout for my liking on a weightless fluke.
I fish flukes on a 6'8" MF Cumara. I think you're looking at a Compre. If you go internet auction hunting, you can get a current gen Crucial for $100-110 shipped sometimes.
I echo that sentiment that MH is a bit too much, but it's certainly doable.
A MH spinning rod might be OK. Never tried that. I use a ML casting rod most of the time. It's difficult, at best, to throw an unweighted fluke with a MH casting rod. It just will not load enough to get a good cast.
Spinning rods make more sense, but I prefer casting. I use the Shimano Clarus 6'8" MXF. So far it seems to be the best overall rod in 80 dollar range for topwater/flukes
Medium Heavy would be a bad idea for a casting rod. The rod is use is a spinning rod for weightless flukes - Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth 6'8 M/XF. This thing is paired with a Shimano Symetre FI 2500 and can sling it a good distance. If you are set on a baitcaster, I'd go with a Shimano M/F Crucial. Cumara if you can, also I own a M/F Fenwick Baitcaster at 6'10" and I can launch a weightless super fluke pretty good which is paired with a Chronarch 50MG.
7'2" Medium Cumara is what I use. Loads up great and has enough backbone to move them when they bite.
i use a st. croix 68mxf /w shimano 51e. works great.
Ditto except I'm a 50 kinda guy. I also use this as a hard jerkbait and topwater set up. Gets used allllll season. One of my favorite setups.On 8/16/2013 at 8:54 AM, iabass8 said:i use a st. croix 68mxf /w shimano 51e. works great.
I prefer 6'8MF
I use a 6'8" m/xf cumara with a core 50. Will sling a weightless fluke a mile.
Jeff
On 8/16/2013 at 6:36 AM, lmbfisherman said:also I own a M/F Fenwick Baitcaster at 6'10" and I can launch a weightless super fluke pretty good which is paired with a Chronarch 50MG.
This except mine carries a Curado 51E. I have 2 other b/c combos that should also do very well with weightless flukes, but haven't tried them with a fluke yet. My Gold Carbonlite/ Falcon Expert Light should do real well as it does a very good job tossing a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap. I have to agree that a MH is a bit too much, and that a spinning rod would probably be the best, but I like using casting reels.
EDIT: I have used an Abu Black Max/6'9" Daiwa V.I.P. MF to throw a weightless fluke, and it does quite well even casting into the wind.
I like to use a small split shot fastened directly in the middle of the hook's bend that is rigged weedless the way Bassresource's video shows you how to rig it. Hook point resting in the slit on the belly of the fluke with the round bend exposed off the back with the sinker. The small weight helps with casting and the bait's tail wiggles as it slowly sinks. The weight makes the bait fall slowly and near flat...not head or tail first, but perpendicular to the surface. Not too much weight, you want a very small split shot weight. Looks like a dieing minnow barely moving its tail. Jerk jerk pause retrieve is deadly when rigged this way. As for the rod, I'm using a 7' Powell Diesel glass casting rod. The crank bait rod slings the fluke a mile. I suppose a moderate action tip on a graphite rod would work just as well. Never have problems with hookups with this rig. Usually the fish hits on the jerk jerk sequence after you have paused. Your jerk jerk sequence sets the hook without you knowing it until you feel the fish fighting.
I have used both medium heavy and medium rods for flukes. The best I have used was a 6'10 medium heavy cumulus followed by a DX 703. The phenix recon 714 is also a nice option with a great tip to really launch them out there.
I don't think there is much difference in the blank between a spinning and casting rod of the same brand and model. I use the same rod for every lure I'm using 7'med 8/17 general purpose rod spinning, hook setting is about timing.
I have fished flukes weightless on a 6'-6" M spinning rod. I don't care for it. I prefer a MH 6'-6" baitcaster. It gives me a little more hook setting power, and the muscle is there when I need it.
I use baitcasters much more than spinning gear, using a fluke on spinning gear would totally change up one of my confidence baits.
So I need a medium ? What does the F or X stand for?
I'm new to all these expensive and specialized rods.
On 8/16/2013 at 8:34 PM, JD96 said:I use baitcasters much more than spinning gear, using a fluke on spinning gear would totally change up one of my confidence baits.
So I need a medium ? What does the F or X stand for?
I'm new to all these expensive and specialized rods.
Medium is the power of the rod. F= Fast action XF= Extra Fast Action (rod taper)
On 8/16/2013 at 2:03 PM, kickerfish1 said:I have used both medium heavy and medium rods for flukes. The best I have used was a 6'10 medium heavy cumulus followed by a DX 703. The phenix recon 714 is also a nice option with a great tip to really launch them out there.
Yeah can see a Cumulus handling it, it even loaded a weightless 6" worm enough to get a fishable distance..although accuracy was an issue. I still want to try a Phenix, it seems like a rod that is right up my alley power wise.
I have used both spinning and casting rods for flukes. I have to say I think the casting rods work better. Both were 7 ft MF St.Croix rods. If you have the opportunity, use both and see which one you prefer.
I will have to try a fluke today on my MH BPS Matrix extreme rod.
Med heavy with fast tip bought with swim jigs in mind.
I am a 16 year old and right now I don't want to spend over 100 on a rod since they risk damage in the back of my truck when I'm pond hopping.
a pistol grip gets you the most out of a superfluke...a.reg fluke for me is best on a med.spinning rod
On 8/16/2013 at 11:47 PM, JD96 said:I will have to try a fluke today on my MH BPS Matrix extreme rod.
Med heavy with fast tip bought with swim jigs in mind.
I am a 16 year old and right now I don't want to spend over 100 on a rod since they risk damage in the back of my truck when I'm pond hopping.
Buy yourself a rod glove and a reel cover. They can be had on TW for about $12 together. It will keep your gear in near mint condition as it travels to and from your destinations.
Same thing I use for senkos, a medium/fast spinning rod. 20# braid. Sometimes I use a leader, sometimes not. I rarely rig them weedless, preferring to nose hook them on a wide gap finesse hook.
I use a NRX 893c and Curado 50e. The only downside is that some may not like this length for the purpose, but this rod absolutely bombs flukes. Next to fishing it with a 6'8'' Powell max or 803 NRX rod the extra distance I gain allows me to work the bait back a much greater distance which allows me to catch more fish. I find I can still work the bait just fine standing up on the deck of my boat.
I do feel, however, that a shorter rod is certainly more comfortable for working the bait back. If I was in your position and was looking for around $100 to spend on it. I would without a doubt get a Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth in the size, action, power you decide and run with it. Great rod for its price.
Powell 723 with 30lb braid. Its a 7'2" MH but I think it feels more like a mag medium... it loads pretty well wwith a weightless fluke. I also use my "dock skippin" rod for flukes, a 6'8" M/F Castaway rod. It loads up and skips them well.
I am exited about all the replies, I am saving up my paychecks until I can snag a Chronarch 50e and a rod to go with it, I am most likely going to change my rotation a bit, leaving my Caenan with a very flexy medium for smaller cranks and light line, and my Curado 200E7 would be my "winch" setup so to speak fishing everything from spinners to deep divers to frogs. Leaving the Chronarch for my main fishing type being Jigs and Weightless superflukes.
I'm trying to get ready for my School fishing team to start up with Tournaments again, and have enough rods by then to be able to spend less time changing lures and more time catching fish.