I know this has been brought up here before and I’m sure a lot times lol
im looking for a chatterbait rod that I will also be using for spinner baits and some cranking, I’m up in Canada and don’t have a lot of largemouth around me but there are some so looking for a multi use rod to save some space In the rod locker.
right now I’m looking at St.Croix and G.loomis E6X mostly because of availability locally and saving on shipping charges.
I've done some searches on here and haven’t heard of some of the brands never mind seen them locally in stores
I can vouch for the Kistler KLX and Falcon Cara. Both have great actions for all around reaction baits.
I currently have the AvidX in MH/Fast that I use for what you're planning to use.
I highly recommend it.
Which length of avidX are you using?
I prefer MH 7’ rods for spinner baits and chatter baits. I need a M for cranks. I am using Gloomis, B & R Outlaw, and All Pro rods for those.
I have a 7’ medium (I think or medium light) Falcon as well so I don’t mind going to a MH
i won’t be getting into any real heavy slop or largemouths so I don’t think I need a heavy even though there seem to be a lot of them
Also what are everyone’s thoughts on
heavy moderate vs MH Fast?
The Kistler KLX Feel n Reel 7'2 MH is perfect for all of those techniques.
In general - I've been throwing chatters and buzzbaits on a H/F and spinners on a M/F. I have a MH/F coming tomorrow and it will be the new 'bladebait' rod. Cranks I've been throwing on the M/F or the old M/M, seems to be better on the latter, so my wishlist now has a better quality M/M on it that will be my crankbait rod.
What make of rod is the MH you just ordered?
i work away 3 weeks at a time so you will probably get to use yours before I even get home and go looking lol
On 8/9/2019 at 5:18 AM, JSB said:What make of rod is the MH you just ordered?
i work away 3 weeks at a time so you will probably get to use yours before I even get home and go looking lol
I'm on a limited budget, so my rods are at the low end. It's another Aird-X...though the crankbait rod I'm looking to get is a Tatula-XT (TXT701MRB-G)
I really like the Loomis E6X’s but they don’t really seem to have a rod that lines up with what I’m looking for
I’m still not sure about MH/Fast vs H/Moderate either
None of those really require anything special. A rod with a suitable lure weight range and enough backbone for the cover in 7’> will do nicely.
Expride 72MHgass is great for chatters!
Shimano also has the same model in the zodias and in the new Intenza lines, though the latter isn’t available yet from what I can tell.
On 8/9/2019 at 2:47 AM, JSB said:I know this has been brought up here before and I’m sure a lot times lol
im looking for a chatterbait rod that I will also be using for spinner baits and some cranking, I’m up in Canada and don’t have a lot of largemouth around me but there are some so looking for a multi use rod to save some space In the rod locker.
right now I’m looking at St.Croix and G.loomis E6X mostly because of availability locally and saving on shipping charges.
I've done some searches on here and haven’t heard of some of the brands never mind seen them locally in stores
What weight lures?
Budget is? $180 USD?
What reel and line type do you plan to use?
Of the 3 lure groups which 1 do you use the most?
Length preference?
On 8/9/2019 at 4:51 AM, RichF said:The Kistler KLX Feel n Reel 7'2 MH is perfect for all of those techniques.
I got the 7'3" H a few weeks ago, awesome rod for 1/2oz and up chatterbaits and spinnerbaits. Great hollow body swimbait rod too.
On 8/9/2019 at 7:36 AM, WRB said:What weight lures?
Budget is? $180 USD?
What reel and line type do you plan to use?
Of the 3 lure groups which 1 do you use the most?
Length preference?
$200-$260
it will either be a chronarch, Revo Ike edition or a Curado DC. The first 2 I already have and I will be picking up a DC next and will shuffle around with what I already have to see what fits where the best.
most likely power pro superslick, in 8lb diameter.
6’11” - 7’5” at max, my center rod locket only holds 7’ but side holds up to 9’6” and I can shove over the Musky gear a bit
it will be a pretty even split of the 3 to be honest, I’m fairly new to chatterbait fishing but have already had some decent results on the smallies with them and when I do get out for largies I will be doing a lot of searching to find fish, I will probably use it to throw cranks for bass and walleye and spinnerbaits for small and largemouth
95% of the time or more it will be 1/2oz as the heaviest bait thrown
Get a moderate action at least 7' long. MH for 1/2oz and less. H for >1/2oz. You didn't state your budget. I like having good sensitivity so that I can feel what the lure is doing. I use a Dobyns Champion 765cb graphite. Its pretty much all purpose and can throw lipless, 3/8-1/2oz chatterbaits, and DD up to 22'. Glass works as well but has reduced sensitivity which is not ideal for me. Dobyns Champion 735cb glass is what a lot of people love for your intended purposes and is what Gary recommends. It is a glass composite but I would assume has enough sensitivity to feel what your lure is doing. I plan to get this rod in the distant future. I have a couple of NRXs on my list for now.
On 8/9/2019 at 3:53 AM, JSB said:Which length of avidX are you using?
7 foot
Dobyns DC 735CB is a good choice for your applications, about $240.
8 lbs braid on a bait caster isn't a going to work..
Tom
PS, email Gary about shipping tp Canada, TW I believe will ship rods to Canada but I don't know if the add shipping cost.
Thanks, I will check them out
the 8lb diameter superslick hasn’t given me any trouble on my chronarch and the Ike is either 8 or 10 as well
On 8/9/2019 at 9:40 AM, JSB said:Thanks, I will check them out
the 8lb diameter superslick hasn’t given me any trouble on my chronarch and the Ike is either 8 or 10 as well
8 lb Superslick is .005 dia, too small for a any bait casting reel.
I am thinking you mean 30 lb that is .011 dia equal to what PP says is 8 lb mono.
Tom
On 8/9/2019 at 4:51 AM, RichF said:The Kistler KLX Feel n Reel 7'2 MH is perfect for all of those techniques.
Was just gonna post this. Amazing rod. Can usually get it on sale. I got mine for a little under $200.
On 8/9/2019 at 9:52 AM, WRB said:8 lb Superslick is .005 dia, too small for a any bait casting reel.
I am thinking you mean 30 lb that is .011 dia equal to what PP says is 8 lb mono.
Tom
Yes, 8lb diameter not 8lb breaking strength
So I have a TW cart going right now with the Kistler and Dobyns in it and can’t decide on which one lol
My vote is for the Kistler
The Dobyns 734C is what I use for spinnerbaits - chatterbaits with fluro and my favorite multi-purpose rod from Dobyns. It's a little too heavy for cranking, but great for swim jigs, T-Rigs, and senkos.
The 735CB Glass as others have mentioned was designed for chatterbaits and will suit your cranking needs better. Dobyns employee's recommended the 734C as their best spinnerbait rod over the phone.
To the original poster - you're very brave. I couldn't do it. Ordering a rod over the internet, based on the opinions of folks you've chit-chatted with but don't really know. I just can't buy a fishing rod unless I've held it and flexed it prior to buying it. Now having typed that, here's my rod opinion. Spinnerbaits & chatter baits, I like a slightly shorter rod. My current favorite is a 6'8" Fenwick Aetos MH/fast tip. It has enough tip for me that I can load it up and throw a half ounce bait without too much effort. Generally throwing these two baits distance isn't much of a factor, I'm usually making side arm type casts. Whip it side arm, or roll cast it - rod is more or less parallel to the water and I find that I hit less stuff (like trees, overhanging branches) when I use this type of cast. Also it seems to me, and it might or might not be true, that I get less of a splash with the side arm cast.
To me, cranks are different, distance is more important and I'm much more likely to make two handed overhead casts when I throw them and I'm less concerned about the splash I might make. To me this requires a slightly longer rod that has more tip to it, it loads down into the blank more and it seems I can throw the crank bait farther. Current favorite is an All Star 7' crank stick which has more or less of a medium action.
On 8/9/2019 at 2:47 AM, JSB said:I know this has been brought up here before and I’m sure a lot times lol
im looking for a chatterbait rod that I will also be using for spinner baits and some cranking, I’m up in Canada and don’t have a lot of largemouth around me but there are some so looking for a multi use rod to save some space In the rod locker.
right now I’m looking at St.Croix and G.loomis E6X mostly because of availability locally and saving on shipping charges.
I've done some searches on here and haven’t heard of some of the brands never mind seen them locally in stores
I bought an Okuma TCS 7' MH/MF APC and like it. End up using it also for Choppo/Whopper Ploppers as well
On 8/9/2019 at 7:35 PM, JSB said:
Yes, 8lb diameter not 8lb breaking strength
If I hadn't worked with Bombardier engineers for serveral decades your answer would be a confushing as stating 8 lb braid when you mean 30 lb braid.
Which rod to choose is your decision, Kistler and Dobyns are both good companies. The Kistler Feel N Reel series 7'3" MH is a new composite blank, Dobyns DC 735 CB has a proven track record. Gary often has factory refurbished rods on hand that customers have used a few times and traded in for another model, full garentee at reduced price. I would call Gary before ordering and call Kistler then make a determination. Make sure you tell them you are using 30 lb braid, it makes a difference especially if you add leaders the giudes need to accommodate.
Tom
I’ve also been looking at the St. Croix legend glass 7’4” MH Moderate, has anyone used one of them?
On 8/10/2019 at 1:02 AM, Fishes in trees said:To the original poster - you're very brave. I couldn't do it. Ordering a rod over the internet, based on the opinions of folks you've chit-chatted with but don't really know. I just can't buy a fishing rod unless I've held it and flexed it prior to buying it.
What stores have the selection of a TW tho? Also, TW has a great, free return policy.
I am a Kistler fan also, I own about eight of them. Since you said your leaning to St. Croix. Maybe check out the 7' MH/F mojo bass. It's a excellent all around rod and doesn't have the micro guides. The Kistler's are better built lighter rod but you pay 80-100 more for them. The Kistler Magnesium II's 6'10" is what Trey reccommends for spinner baits. It's a tad less expensive then the KLX's or Helium 3's.
FM
Those reel n feels go on sale all the time. Yesterday the buy a rod get 50% off reel and feel ended. Last week it was buy 2 rods get a free reel and feel. You could have got an H3 MH for jigs and the moderate action pole for a great price. I think for your intended purposes you should find a 20% off Dobyns and get the dc735cb glass. Ebay does 20% off quite often and so do a lot of sports stores. American Legacy does ebay's make an offer on Dobyns that I have used several times and they will take at least $20 off their initial offering. I got the dc765cb a month ago for 20% off at sportsmans outfitters.
You will like your Curado DC, but if you are an experienced baitcast thrower, it will be the last one you buy. I don't get any extra benefits from it but I sure love the noise it makes. It will be on my skipping rod once I have one. That is the only benefit for me as I am not an experienced skipper with BCs. It will be great for you to teach your family how to throw a BC. The next time I have $250 to drop a reel it will be a Bantam.
As far as internet shopping and in store purchases are concerned, to me its not much of a difference. I can't tell if I like a rod until I fish it. I did however rule out the mojo bass series by just looking at them in store. I would rather take 100 reviews of a rod into consideration of how it fishes than go bend the tip in a store.
Another thought... For the money you can't beat an Alpha Angler. Do yourself a favor and check out their offerings. You won't find their Chatterbound on their website because it was a special offering to people on the mailing list. If you google the Chatterbound, you will find it and they do have some left. I bet this is every bit as good as anything mentioned. Call Jake the owner up and see if it can do what you want.
https://www.alphaangler.com/products/alpha-angler-chatterbound
https://www.kistlerrods.com/store/helium-3-light-med-heavy-7-3-fast-fishing-rod.html
would this be the step up from the reel n feel?
I think the h3s are all fast action. The rod you linked to would be a good shakey head and weightless senko rod in open water. You dont need that kind of sensitivity for your intended purposes. The reel and feel is fine. The H3 line is for bottom contact and flipping where ultimate sensitivity is needed to detect strikes. As I said earlier, if you need a jig or worm rod wait til kistler has another sale which will probably be this week and get an h3 and a great discount on your reel and feel. Just add yourself to the mailing list.
I'd get the Dobyns. Warranty matters to me at this price point and above.