Shimano Stella 2024

central.PA.bass reply :

My local tackle shop has a Stella on sale for I believe $399.. I dont know how many there are or if this is even a good deal.. anyone have any input?

Alpster reply :

Mine is an older 1000FB it retailed for around $500 when I bought it on ebay new for around $300. They changed something about the reels and now they are up to $700 MSRP. If it's a newer model "FE" that sounds like a steal.

I can tell you it's sweetest spinning reel I have ever held.

Ronnie

00 mod reply :

X2. I don't own one, but have fished with rw's and that is one sweet reel. Really much better than my setup, but I don't have the extra to spring for it over my stradic.

Jeff

Grey Wolf reply :

An excellent deal . How many did you buy ?

jeb2 reply :

I would guess that's the FD model. Lots of places are closing them out at about that price point. The FD is still a great reel. The updates to the FE don't seem that big of a deal on paper to me.

If that's the price on a FE, jump on it with both feet!

bilgerat reply :

For 400 beans, Stella better bring her sisters with her and make a party out of it...

steezy reply :

Its worth every penny, BUY IT !

central.PA.bass reply :

haha.. I don't have 400 to dish out.. I was just wonderin if it was a good deal.. I can look more into it but if anyone is interested let me know.. I can pick it up for whoever wants it..

islandbass reply :

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Mine is an older 1000FB it retailed for around $500 when I bought it on ebay new for around $300. They changed something about the reels and now they are up to $700 MSRP. If it's a newer model "FE" that sounds like a steal.
I can tell you it's sweetest spinning reel I have ever held.

Ronnie

I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters.

The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D

jignfule reply :

If I could get a new FE for $399 I'd sprint back to the store. For an FD, I probably still get it.

SirSnookalot reply :

I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway.

Alpster reply :

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Mine is an older 1000FB it retailed for around $500 when I bought it on ebay new for around $300. They changed something about the reels and now they are up to $700 MSRP. If it's a newer model "FE" that sounds like a steal.
I can tell you it's sweetest spinning reel I have ever held.

Ronnie

I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters.

The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D

I don't have a Symeter, but I have 2 Stradics and a Twin Power (JDM version of the Sustain) and it's the difference between driving a Buick and a Ferrari, the Buick runs good, will take you anywhere you want to go, etc. but if you could choose any car you wanted, which would it be? The light weight, amazing fit and finish, perfectly machined parts and flawless performance are what make the Stella "stellar. If I had the $, I would own at least one in every size. IMHO

Ronnie

Alpster reply :

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I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway.

That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO

Ronnie

northern basser reply :

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For 400 beans, Stella better bring her sisters with her and make a party out of it...

SirSnookalot reply :

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I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway.

That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO

Ronnie

The higher ends reels that don't should, just because it isn't offered people accept that as the way it should be, I disagree.

Ross fly reels, lifetime warranty

Tibor reel, limited lifetime warranty

Zeebass, lifetime excluding drag washers.

The parts that go into a reel cost little when bought in volume at wholesale. The companies that employ overseas labor pay little per item and the cost of shipping isn't that much when broken down per item. My guess expensive reels probably cost no more that $100 to make, I think that's high too. A manufacturer's lifetime repair or replace if needed sound very reasonable to me, it is also a great selling point and could command an even higher retail price.

islandbass reply :

Thanks for your response, Alpster. Mayby some day for the right price, I'll pick one up. I agree they do look nice.

Crabcakes reply :

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I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters.

The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D

If you really want to know about the reel read this. This is the Stella SW but it will give you an idea. Technical read but it is worth the education.

http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/showthread.php?t=647666

(I checked the FAQ and don't think it is in violation of the rules to post this link since it is non promotional. Please remove if I am mistaken.)

Alpster reply :

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I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway.

That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO

Ronnie

The higher ends reels that don't should, just because it isn't offered people accept that as the way it should be, I disagree.

Ross fly reels, lifetime warranty

Tibor reel, limited lifetime warranty

Zeebass, lifetime excluding drag washers.

The parts that go into a reel cost little when bought in volume at wholesale. The companies that employ overseas labor pay little per item and the cost of shipping isn't that much when broken down per item. My guess expensive reels probably cost no more that $100 to make, I think that's high too. A manufacturer's lifetime repair or replace if needed sound very reasonable to me, it is also a great selling point and could command an even higher retail price.

I don't disagree with you. I wish everything were guaranteed forever. My point was that just because it's expensive doesn't mean it "should' be guaranteed forever. That's not the standard in the marketplace. I wish that it were so. All decent Fly reel makers, including as you point out, Ross & Tibor have a lifetime warranty, I believe because they only have a few moving parts. I have an Able & several Orvis reels that are warranted for life. BTW, according to their website "ZeeBass" reels only have a 1 year warranty.

Ronnie

steezy reply :

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I'll tell you what the stella lacks.............any reel in that price range should come with a lifetime warranty, if it's that good( which I doubt), you won't use the warranty anyway.

That doesn't make sense to me. Why should the price point dictate the guarantee? I can't think of any complex mechanical product that is subject to wear and tear that comes with a lifetime warranty. The very best of the best, Mercedes Benz, Kitchen Aide mixers, Nikon Cameras, Ducatti Motorcycles and on and on....none of them offer a lifetime warranty just because they are expensive. JMHO

Ronnie

The higher ends reels that don't should, just because it isn't offered people accept that as the way it should be, I disagree.

Ross fly reels, lifetime warranty

Tibor reel, limited lifetime warranty

Zeebass, lifetime excluding drag washers.

The parts that go into a reel cost little when bought in volume at wholesale. The companies that employ overseas labor pay little per item and the cost of shipping isn't that much when broken down per item. My guess expensive reels probably cost no more that $100 to make, I think that's high too. A manufacturer's lifetime repair or replace if needed sound very reasonable to me, it is also a great selling point and could command an even higher retail price.

SirSnookalot, I also get upset about the lack of a decent warranty on expensive reels.

I don't want to start a warranty debate but it ticks me off when I pay $400+ for a Steez baitcaster and $500+ for a Steez spinning reel and it only comes with a 1 yr warranty. Both Diawa and Shimano should be ashamed of the lack of warranty on their high end reels.

Tibor only makes high end reels so I guess they think the person that can afford that reel will not abuse it.

The Zeebass warranty covers the reel but not the drag washers which is still a good deal, like a car warranty that doesn't cover the tires.

However, for some companies its not about price. Ross provides the same lifetime warranty for all their fly reels no matter if its the $100 or $500 reel. I commend Ross for that.

I can only assume that both Daiwa and Shimano provide warranties based upon general usage and service history for the majority of the models of reels they sell and don't want the headache of tracking seperate warranties for certain models of reels. I guess the upscale market is just to small and the marketing people love it but the bean counters don't get it.

K_Mac reply :

Steezy it must not tick you off much paying those prices for Steez gear. You must feel there is value there or you would buy something else. If Shimano can sell Stella reels for $700 with whatever warranty they have, then that is what they will do. Ultimately the consumer sets the price.

On the other side of the coin is the warranty GLoomis used to have on their rods. When it began to cut into profits, they changed the deal. I am guessing the people who like their rods are still buying them.

My point is we all make value judgements when it comes to tackle. I would not pay that kind of money for a reel even with a lifetime warranty. I'd probably kick it off my boat the first trip out. :

steezy reply :

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Steezy it must not tick you off much paying those prices for Steez gear. You must feel there is value there or you would buy something else. If Shimano can sell Stella reels for $700 with whatever warranty they have, then that is what they will do. Ultimately the consumer sets the price.
On the other side of the coin is the warranty GLoomis used to have on their rods. When it began to cut into profits, they changed the deal. I am guessing the people who like their rods are still buying them.

My point is we all make value judgements when it comes to tackle. I would not pay that kind of money for a reel even with a lifetime warranty. I'd probably kick it off my boat the first trip out. :

I buy my reels more because I like them regardless of the price. If I find a baitcast reel I like better then I will but it but until then I'll keep buying the Steez.

I don't think there are very many great values in anything anymore. No one takes any pride in what they produce.

Supply and Demand will always dictate price regardless of the product, its features or warranty.

SirSnookalot reply :

There is an oriental gentleman that comes out to the jettie all the time, always with loomis, stella, sustain and yesterday a caluctta( haven't seen him catch a fish in 5 years, but he tries). I switched outfits with him and started to cast, haven't touched a b/c in 35 years, just like riding a bike not one backlash. Not that I would ever buy one, prefer spinning, but that reel was very very sweet.

Iowa Matt reply :

Bought this one in December and can't wait to try it out when the ice melts! I have used Sustains for several years and been very pleased with them. I am certain that this one will be no different. I really prefer the look of the D model to that of the new E model and got this for $380 on closeout. Seems like I am about the only bass fisherman that likes the 1000 size more than the 2000, 2500, 3000 sizes and many times that means that I can find some good deals.

Matt

roadwarrior reply :

Hmm...

1000FA, 2500FD and 2500FE

Perfect in every way.

No "lifetime warranty" does not mean that

Shimano will not address a problem. I have

found their customer service to be exceptional.

Our ole friend, Dan Thornberg is a designer and head

of Customer Service. If you have an issue with

Shimano, contact him direct...Dan answers the phone!

8-)

steezy reply :

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Bought this one in December and can't wait to try it out when the ice melts! I have used Sustains for several years and been very pleased with them. I am certain that this one will be no different. I really prefer the look of the D model to that of the new E model and got this for $380 on closeout. Seems like I am about the only bass fisherman that likes the 1000 size more than the 2000, 2500, 3000 sizes and many times that means that I can find some good deals.

Matt

You're gonna love that reel !

Fish Chris reply :

Hey IowaMatt

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Seems like I am about the only bass fisherman that likes the 1000 size more than the 2000, 2500, 3000 sizes

Yea...... It seems like I'm the only Sturgeon fisherman who prefers the 1000 series spinning reels

But hey though, that is a really sweet little reel. You got a great deal on it too.

I'd probably choose a Steez, over the Shimanos, just because I always preferred Diawa.....

But then again, if I were to ever spend some really big $$$ on a reel, I'd probably just order from Daiwa Japan, so I could have a wide range of choices, in the $400 to $800 range.

Fish

islandbass reply :

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I don't doubt you but if you could, could you share with us what it is that sets it above the rest? One thing about spinning reels is you seem to get a whole lot of reel for the money, like a symetre for $99 whereas that same $$ gets you entry level gear with baitcasters.

The Symetres are sweet to me and so are stradics, and I can only imagine the performance of a Stella. So what makes the Stella stellar IYHO? Thanks! Stella!!!! Stella!!!!! ;D

If you really want to know about the reel read this. This is the Stella SW but it will give you an idea. Technical read but it is worth the education.

http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/showthread.php?t=647666

(I checked the FAQ and don't think it is in violation of the rules to post this link since it is non promotional. Please remove if I am mistaken.)

Thanks, MD. That was a great read.

roadwarrior reply :

Geez...

Thanks!

8-)

ChrisAW reply :

We got two of these in at work, the Stella 4000FE. I didn't really know about the Stella beforehand, and I scanned the UPC to price it and about crapped myself when I seen how much it cost

I yelled out some slight profanity at the sheer thought of spending $700 for a spinning reel. But we told the manager of the fishing section to come out back and pick them up, and he took one out to take a look at it. Such a thing of beauty. A slight wind blew through the loading dock, caught the handle and started to turn ;D

I don't care if I ever become a millionaire, I'd never spend that kind of money on a reel. But more power to those that do I guess, I just couldn't imagine loosing my grip on that bad boy and watching it sink to the bottom. I'd have to have it tethered to me at all times.

roadwarrior reply :

Hmm...

$45K or $50K on a truck when $25-$30K would

have been just fine? $8,000 on four wheel drive

that you use twice a year or never? $2,500 sun

roof and you usually keep the lid shut, especially

in the summer? $800-$1200 tires that you replace

every 2 or 3 years?

Nearly every Stella owner will fish that reel the

rest of their life.

scrutch reply :

There ya go again RW, making sense.

Redlinerobert reply :

I have one spinning reel on my boat. It's a Stella. Awesome reel.

J Francho reply :

Internally, there really is nothing made like a Stella.

evergreener reply :

totally agreed! There was indeed nth out there could beat stella if we can throw away the price tag! hhahaha

I was a Daiwa guy...... but I replaced my exist after i have tried my friend's stella......

but $380!! can I just say I am jealous about the deal you got there!! Have fun with the reel!! 8-)

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