Frog Rod 2024
Aetain reply :
Hello, I have been reading this forum for a while and finally decided to join. I am in need for a frog rod and have been looking at a dobyns 736c. The lily pads in tge lakes I fish can be moderately heavy at times, but rhey are mostly light. If anyone could recommend a St. Croix frog rod (avid) or another brand, that would be great.
ndejohn27 reply :
Duckett Ghost HF 7'3" for $100
Aetain reply :
I'd prefer a full handle grip. Thank you for your recommendation.
BassinLou reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 2:30 AM, Aetain said:I'd prefer a full handle grip. Thank you for your recommendation.
Which Dobyns 736 were you considering? If you find the 736 to be too much, then look into the 735's. I have both families of rods that you mentioned. I use the Avid as a frog rod, but when the cover gets thick and knarly I take out the Champion 736. Good luck with your choice.
WIGuide reply :
If you want to stick with the Avid line you'd want the 7' H/F. You could possibly get away with a MH/F depending on cover, but I think it's better to have a little beefier rod because it still does just fine in the lighter cover, and when it gets heavy you are still good to go.
Aetain reply :
How is the avid 7 foot heavy compared to the dobyns 736c?
War Eagle 44 reply :
My vote goes to the Powell Max 3D 736 CEF.
Jon G reply :
736 is too much the 735 is perfect
Aetain reply :
Which 736 is too much? The dobyns or powell?
Jon G reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 7:38 PM, Aetain said:Which 736 is too much? The dobyns or powell?
Dobyns
bigfishbk86 reply :
Dobyns 736 is a bit much fit frogging. I'd suggest a tatula 7'2 H or *** black 7'3H.
Aetain reply :
Thanks for the input so far. How is the 735c compared to a st croix 7ft mh fast?
Another thing, is a revo stx, chronarch 201e7 or pfleuger patriarch low profile a better frog reel?
Jon G reply :
Personally, for frogs I would go with the 735 and would never look back. It's perfectly balanced and has the perfect tip for frogs. Don't get me wrong I love St. Croix but for a frogging rod the 735 can't be beat.
Any of those reels would work. I would personally use the Chronarch since I'm a Shimano guy.
Aetain reply :
Any idea where I can get a dobyns rod cheaper than 250?
Jon G reply :
On 7/24/2015 at 1:30 AM, Aetain said:Any idea where I can get a dobyns rod cheaper than 250?
I sent you a PM about it.
Batson reply :
On 7/24/2015 at 1:30 AM, Aetain said:Any idea where I can get a dobyns rod cheaper than 250?
Go custom! You can get one built that will blow you away for that price! Also its built properly!!
Master Bait'r reply :
OP just wanted to say that flat out power and stiffness in a rod is far from ideal. With frogs you really want a softer tip and a progressive backbone. Most frogs weigh around a half ounce or 3/4 at the most. An ex heavy is not going to load the tip very well and casting distance will suffer. Also it will be much harder to "walk the dog" and you may find that fish don't stay pinned quite the same once you set the hook.
Unless you are in the heaviest of cover situations or expecting DD monsters, I'd stick with a heavy powered rod (I ise a Heavy extra fast *** and love it) or like the 735 Dobyns which is a MH but has a very versatile progressive flex to it and lots of people swear by it.
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 7/25/2015 at 11:58 AM, Master Bait said:OP just wanted to say that flat out power and stiffness in a rod is far from ideal. With frogs you really want a softer tip and a progressive backbone. Most frogs weigh around a half ounce or 3/4 at the most. An ex heavy is not going to load the tip very well and casting distance will suffer. Also it will be much harder to "walk the dog" and you may find that fish don't stay pinned quite the same once you set the hook.
Unless you are in the heaviest of cover situations or expecting DD monsters, I'd stick with a heavy powered rod (I ise a Heavy extra fast *** and love it) or like the 735 Dobyns which is a MH but has a very versatile progressive flex to it and lots of people swear by it.
As I've stated many times before frogs are my favorite way to fish so I spend quite a bit of time throwing one. I couldn't disagree more with this opinion on rod choice. Many guys use the Dobyns 736 for all of their frog fishing, example being Matt Allen. I've always used a Powell Max 735 mag heavy and love it. I throw all of my frogs and toads on this rod no matter if it's heavy vegetation or open water.
I've just recently picked up a Max 3D 736 and I love it even more than the original Max. I have absolutely zero trouble casting for distance, accuracy, skipping or working/walking my frogs. I've also never had any trouble with fish coming unbuttoned.
As with most everything in life there is more than one way to go about doing something and that means there will always be different opinions about the best way to go about it. These are just MY opinions, nothing more. I'm certainly not trying to say that I'm right and the guy above is wrong. His opinion means just as much as mine.
Master Bait'r reply :
On 7/26/2015 at 10:21 PM, War Eagle 44 said:As I've stated many times before frogs are my favorite way to fish so I spend quite a bit of time throwing one. I couldn't disagree more with this opinion on rod choice. Many guys use the Dobyns 736 for all of their frog fishing, example being Matt Allen. I've always used a Powell Max 735 mag heavy and love it. I throw all of my frogs and toads on this rod no matter if it's heavy vegetation or open water.
I've just recently picked up a Max 3D 736 and I love it even more than the original Max. I have absolutely zero trouble casting for distance, accuracy, skipping or working/walking my frogs. I've also never had any trouble with fish coming unbuttoned.
As with most everything in life there is more than one way to go about doing something and that means there will always be different opinions about the best way to go about it. These are just MY opinions, nothing more. I'm certainly not trying to say that I'm right and the guy above is wrong. His opinion means just as much as mine.
Yes this is absolutely true- to each his own and what is "right" for one person can easily be "wrong" for another. I was simply relating my personal struggles in finding my perfect frog rod. I really had trouble with rods that were too broomsticky but many guys like them that way as it is easier to flip the fish on top of the cover. Some MHs feel stiffer through the tip than other H rods, and it really is a personal preference in any case. I run a HXF rod but in many ways it behaves better for me than my previously owned MHF blanks when on paper it shouldn't have been that way according to my tastes.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
i just bought the duckett terex dean rojas model 7' MH and man is this rod a beast. perfect for throwing frogs a long way and is really sensitive. also has a great back bone. first day out with it i caught my new PB at 4lb 3oz and swung it out of the water with no issue! check it out. its currently 159.99 on TW
sofarfrome reply :
Dobyn's Champion 735. Excellent frogging rod.
WRB reply :
IRod Fred's Magic stick, gen 2.
Tom
BDfishing reply :
On 7/25/2015 at 1:21 AM, Batson said:Go custom! You can get one built that will blow you away for that price! Also its built properly!!
What blank
Batson reply :
Remember it also depends on where your living.
Well I can't speak for my competitors but most the pros we have and others that need a custom!
http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/revelation-bass-casting/
Alabama/Guntersville, Tenesse river chain love this blank: REVC710H Est MSRP: $127.05 and the REVC710MH: Est MSRP: $112.40
Florida/Okeechobee/area love this: REVC711XXH: $169.88
Others love this: http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/rx7-bass-flippinstick/ IFS906 Est price: $119.63 MSRP
But you might like this: http://www.rainshadowrodblanks.com/product-line/immortal-bass-casting/
IMMC73HXF
Est price: $188.10 MSRP
Good and bad problem to have! Just depends on your area and what you want to accomplish, how you fish, and budget!! But these are full blown MSRP!! You can get all the best parts and still be under.
Or you can go a "production" style custom: https://www1.powertackle.com/products/rods/keith-combs-signature-series/rods/keith-combs-signature-series/kcfr76mh-7-6
Its has all the tech, built for strength and still very light weight.
SenkoGuru reply :
Batson, It is my understanding that the new 2015/Castaway Skeleton V2 Casting Rods are using the Rainshadow Revelation rod blanks. Anything you could tell me about this, I am interested in purchasing one of those rod's to test out and see how I like it. I have noticed that castaway has a 7'4 extra heavy action with a mod-fast taper listed but the rainshadow revelation line does not have this same blank listed. Thank you.
Master Bait'r reply :
On 8/11/2015 at 3:21 PM, SenkoGuru said:Batson, It is my understanding that the new 2015/Castaway Skeleton V2 Casting Rods are using the Rainshadow Revelation rod blanks. Anything you could tell me about this, I am interested in purchasing one of those rod's to test out and see how I like it. I have noticed that castaway has a 7'4 extra heavy action with a mod-fast taper listed but the rainshadow revelation line does not have this same blank listed. Thank you.
You would probably be best served by just calling up DVT and chatting with him about what you're looking for in a frog rod. What characteristics you want etc. You can see above that not everyone can agree on what makes a good frog rod and it really helps with your enjoyment if you can say what it is you are looking for i.e.- soft or stiff tip and how much, where do you like the backbone to kick in, how heavy the baits, how heavy the cover and what size the average lunker is in your area etc. if you don't know, he can help you figure it out. It's tough to keep that string of thought on the internet.
Batson reply :
On 8/11/2015 at 3:21 PM, SenkoGuru said:Batson, It is my understanding that the new 2015/Castaway Skeleton V2 Casting Rods are using the Rainshadow Revelation rod blanks. Anything you could tell me about this, I am interested in purchasing one of those rod's to test out and see how I like it. I have noticed that castaway has a 7'4 extra heavy action with a mod-fast taper listed but the rainshadow revelation line does not have this same blank listed. Thank you.
Hi SenkoGuru, The new Castaway Skeleton V2 are amazing rods for the money. They are using the Revelation blanks as their rod blanks, also if you look, they are using the ALPS split seat, ALPS guides, etc.. Great performance vs value!!
http://www.westernbass.com/forum/icast-2015-batson-russ-lane-castaway-rod-soft-touch-grip-t96996.html
http://www.westernbass.com/forum/post548059.html#p548059
You will see the Castaway hang tag featuring: RainShadow Rod Blanks and ALPS Hangtags
I hope this helps.. Ask away if you have any questions.
On 8/11/2015 at 8:03 PM, Master Bait said:You would probably be best served by just calling up DVT and chatting with him about what you're looking for in a frog rod. What characteristics you want etc. You can see above that not everyone can agree on what makes a good frog rod and it really helps with your enjoyment if you can say what it is you are looking for i.e.- soft or stiff tip and how much, where do you like the backbone to kick in, how heavy the baits, how heavy the cover and what size the average lunker is in your area etc. if you don't know, he can help you figure it out. It's tough to keep that string of thought on the internet.
You know we are experts as well. lol We can educate and help out as much as possible as well as DVT. But it really depends on your area of fishing. The frog rods in Okeechobee are different than Alabama. We have built custom rods for pros that also like it different.
DTack reply :
Not sure if this rod has been purchased yet but I have to echo one or two of the posts here and say a Dobyns 736 is not too heavy for frog fishing. It is made for frog fishing. There is no reason at all even in open water to sit there and "play" a frog fish. Take the heavy rod and braided line and put them to use. Start doing things right and you won't lose as many fish, it's plain and simple at that point.
We just had a "frogs only" tournament out here on the California Delta, listening to lost fish stories at weigh in was arguably the best part!
Master Bait'r reply :
On 8/11/2015 at 10:18 PM, Batson said:Hi SenkoGuru, The new Castaway Skeleton V2 are amazing rods for the money. They are using the Revelation blanks as their rod blanks, also if you look, they are using the ALPS split seat, ALPS guides, etc.. Great performance vs value!!
http://www.westernbass.com/forum/icast-2015-batson-russ-lane-castaway-rod-soft-touch-grip-t96996.html
http://www.westernbass.com/forum/post548059.html#p548059
You will see the Castaway hang tag featuring: RainShadow Rod Blanks and ALPS Hangtags
I hope this helps.. Ask away if you have any questions.
You know we are experts as well. lol We can educate and help out as much as possible as well as DVT. But it really depends on your area of fishing. The frog rods in Okeechobee are different than Alabama. We have built custom rods for pros that also like it different.
Well yeah haha I just meant that DVT uses the same blanks you are talking about and sometimes it helps to just have an actual conversation. Not that your explanation was lacking at all because it was fantastic, but it's also easy to roll that convo into a sale insofar as "yes that sounds perfect let's do it" rather than "ah yes that sounds good I'll look into it" which can be easy to put off 
Batson reply :
No Problem! Internet unfortunately doesnt ever convey emotions! 
We are all here to help out as much as possible. You can call into our sales staff and talk to them as well. We hear from many parts of the country on "what is the best" and it really depends on the person, not really what others say. Different areas have different ways to fish. Unfortunately in the custom world, this is both good and bad. Good=alot of selection and build the perfect rod. Bad=too much selection it can make you go crazy. lol
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
A rod for hollow belly frog baits is one of the more technique specific IMO. You need the power due to the cover, but also a tip that will load, cast and aid in bait presentation. Rainshadow blanks are high quality and have a robust line to choose from as does MHX and others. Many are listed as "Frog" rod blanks, others you'll need to talk to a rep or builder that's used the blank you're considering. In the past I used In-shore blanks as frog rods to get the power/action I was looking for so think outside the box and don't get too hung up on labels.
Robert Riley reply :
Here is what someone at Dobyns told me when I recently inquired about a frog rod:
"For frogs, I would step it up a power to the 735. The 734 lacks the power for frogs. Even if you are fishing them in open water, the 734 doesn't have the power to get good hook penetration with hollow body frogs. The frog style hooks spread apart on hook sets, and work against you on getting good hook penetration. So I really would recommend going with the 735. For both hollow body, and buzzing frogs."
I currently use my DX745 just because I don't have any heavier rods. Here's what he said about that:
"To be honest I do not recommend the DX745C as a frog rod, the DX line was designed and built to be the best and most sensitive contact bait rod you can fish with and they do a very good job at those techniques however the Champion series are much better suited for baits like frogs, buzz frogs or buzz baits. I highly recommend the Champion 735C. The Champ 735C has just a little more power than the DX745C does and it also has a better action for frog fishing. I would love to recommend a DX745C for you but the truth is that the Champion 735C will be a better choice with the right action and power for frog fishing."
Big Bait Fishing reply :
get a 7' or longer heavy powered rod with a fast or extra fast tip , pretty basic , consider a frog as a top water jig , feel the bite (or see ) tension on the line , set the hook with a stout rod and pull the fish out of the slop ...
poisonokie reply :
On 7/23/2015 at 11:57 PM, bigfishbk86 said:Dobyns 736 is a bit much fit frogging. I'd suggest a tatula 7'2 H or *** black 7'3H.
the tatula 741HFB is built for frogging. They are light and powerful and can easily double up for c rigs and even deep cranks. Also, the handles are extraordinary. You can really wrench out a pig. And if you like full grips, well, they're close and more comfortable anyway IMO.
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