Recommendation needed for BFS set up 2024
freelancer27 reply :
Hi all,
I am currently using a G. Loomis E6X Casting Rod 6'8" Med Hvy 803C JWR with a Lew’s Team Pro Speed Spool (system is spooled with 20 pound braid with 8 pound mono leader).
I am looking to throw lighter lures than this combo is currently capable of. I am struggling to get a 1/8oz popper further than 15 yards and for weightless plastics I would like to go even lighter than this.
What kind of BFS set ups are you guys using or can recommend?
Budget is around 400-500 USD.
Thanks all!
Further North reply :
It would blow your budget, but I went with an Abu Garcia LTX and a St. Criox Avid X. It does great at exactly what you are trying to do.
The whole rig - reel, line and rod - weight only 10.4 ounces. I've got fly rods that weigh more...
There are plenty other good choices out that that will just as well, a lot will come down to preference.
Angry John reply :
st croix avid ML 69 xf casting rod with daiwa alphas sv. Your in the 430 ish neighborhood depending on tax sales and shipping.
buzzed bait reply :
major craft makes some excellent BFS rods that are reasonably priced, i'd check them out. as for the reel, i'd look for a 50 series shimano and maybe an aftermarket yumeya spool or a daiwa sv reel.
fishwizzard reply :
You can find older Alphas reels on ebay for sub-$200, add some bearings, DIY Spool, and maybe new drag washers, and end up with a very nice reel for not a ton of money. The prices on Pixys is really low as well, I have seen a few right around $100.
I will second the Major Craft rod recommendations, they have a ton of options, just keep an eye on the actions, they have a lot of Regular/Moderate action rods in their lineup. I have a Phenix Recon 2 6'8" L/F that I use. I like it a lot (other then the reel seat), but I have not held their newer offerings.
kickerfish1 reply :
Buy used. Take a look at a Pixy variant, Alphas SV or Air or various Daiwa or Shimano reels that can accept or already have a smaller BFS spool.
The Phoenix Recon ML and Light rods are good budge choices as are Majorcraft rods.
Raul reply :
GLoomis CR721 IMX + Chronarch 50 + YoZuri Hybrid 6 lb test.
freelancer27 reply :
Thanks guys!
So, to summarize: it is better to buy a used dedicated BFS reel like the Pixy rather than upgrading one of my reels with a BSF spool.
Raul reply :
On 9/12/2017 at 2:26 AM, freelancer27 said:Thanks guys!
So, to summarize: it is better to buy a used dedicated BFS reel like the Pixy rather than upgrading one of my reels with a BSF spool.
You can upgrade to a SV spool if you have the right Daiwa reel, for example, I purchased a shallow SV spool for any of my TDZs and .... man it did the job, with the SV spool they are a ton better than a Pixy ( coming from a guy that owns 3 Pixies ).
freelancer27 reply :
On 9/12/2017 at 2:33 AM, Raul said:You can upgrade to a SV spool if you have the right Daiwa reel, for example, I purchased a shallow SV spool for any of my TDZs and .... man it did the job, with the SV spool they are a ton better than a Pixy ( coming from a guy that owns 3 Pixies ).
WHich spool are you using?
I am also playing with the idea to get something reel nice like a Conquest BFS. Is it possible to use a deeper spool for the conquest in case I would like to use the reel for something else?
new2BC4bass reply :
On 9/11/2017 at 11:36 PM, buzzed bait said:major craft makes some excellent BFS rods that are reasonably priced, i'd check them out. as for the reel, i'd look for a 50 series shimano and maybe an aftermarket yumeya spool or a daiwa sv reel.
I've read the Yumeya in a 50 Shimano is the cat's meow. Wouldn't mind trying one in my 51E. 
OP, you can also shop used. Pixy prices have come down quite a bit. Just make sure it is functioning properly before buying. I got one at a good price, but couldn't even spool line on it. It is now the second most expensive reel I own....after replacing missing parts and getting tuned and upgraded. I don't regret spending the money though. Sweet reel now. Several posts were made while mine sat waiting for me to get back to it so this has already been mentioned.
I'd look for a rod rated down to 1/16 oz. I have two such rods. A 7' ML BPS Crankin' Stick and a 6'9" Falcon Expert Light. Neither of which are available today. Some guys can cast a 1/8 oz. lure on a MH rod with no problem. I ain't one of them.
The Japanese market would be a good place to start looking for a rod. The rod is the most important part of the equation for me when you start talking light lures.
Raul, that sounds like a great idea. Will have to look into an SV spool for one of my TDZs. However, it does make me feel pretty bad for investing in the PXL and Airy Red. Could have bought a few more rods with that money. 
Raul reply :
On 9/12/2017 at 2:38 AM, freelancer27 said:WHich spool are you using?
I am also playing with the idea to get something reel nice like a Conquest BFS. Is it possible to use a deeper spool for the conquest in case I would like to use the reel for something else?
http://japantackle.com/tuning-parts/spools-casting-reels/daiwa/daiwa-slp-steez-sv-105-shallow-spool.html
that one fits my TDZs.
freelancer27 reply :
I am about to pull the trigger on a BFS set up (assuming I can sell my Metanium).
As the rod I will most likely go with: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-BENKEI-BIC-672L-BF-Light-67-bass-fishing-baitcasting-rod-pole-/253149043527?epid=1666939017&hash=item3af0dbdb47:g:QXMAAOSwmLlX2Qtc
I am wondering which reel to pair it with:
Options that i am considering:
* Aldebaran BFS (light and compact, price is ok)
* Calcutta Conquest BFS (incredible machinery and robust, salt water safe, price is of course something to swallow)
* SV103 (that I have) with a BFS Spool -RCS BAITCASTING SV SPOOL 1012 SV G1 (probably the best bang for the buck. I just want to avoid spending a good amount of money on BFS and then have to update the reel eventually, given that the I could not fully leverage the potential here).
What do you guys think?
Thanks!
fishwizzard reply :
I would buy this reel;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Daiwa-Alphas-Finesse-Custom-105HL-Left-Handle-Baitcasting-reel-Made-In-Japan/352161098534?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46087%26meid%3Db040623907a74b94b1a1afbe776c1c73%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D172849217823&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850
It will be great for light lures out of the box and a simple bearing swap will make it better. If it is too wild, a $60 DIY spool will tame it down. If you decide you don't want it I bet you could get most of your money back out of it. If it were RH I would have added and removed it from my cart a dozen times by now.
freelancer27 reply :
On 9/13/2017 at 10:02 AM, fishwizzard said:I would buy this reel;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Daiwa-Alphas-Finesse-Custom-105HL-Left-Handle-Baitcasting-reel-Made-In-Japan/352161098534?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D46087%26meid%3Db040623907a74b94b1a1afbe776c1c73%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D172849217823&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850
It will be great for light lures out of the box and a simple bearing swap will make it better. If it is too wild, a $60 DIY spool will tame it down. If you decide you don't want it I bet you could get most of your money back out of it. If it were RH I would have added and removed it from my cart a dozen times by now.
Thanks, though I am willing to invest a bit more money IF I go down and buy a dedicated BFS reel.
Cheers.
.ghoti. reply :
You could look into having one built for you. Mine is built on an Immortal blank; 7'2" ML-F, with a little over two inches trimmed off the butt.
An 8.5" Winn rear grip, Fuji seat, no fore grip, Recoil micros and a Ti/SiC tip.
With an SS SV, spooled with 7.3lb Finesse fluoro, the whole setup weighs a hair over 9oz, and will cast 1/8oz further than I can set the hook.
Check with Mike at DVT, for a quote.
freelancer27 reply :
On 9/14/2017 at 12:31 AM, .ghoti. said:You could look into having one built for you. Mine is built on an Immortal blank; 7'2" ML-F, with a little over two inches trimmed off the butt.
An 8.5" Winn rear grip, Fuji seat, no fore grip, Recoil micros and a Ti/SiC tip.
With an SS SV, spooled with 7.3lb Finesse fluoro, the whole setup weighs a hair over 9oz, and will cast 1/8oz further than I can set the hook.
Check with Mike at DVT, for a quote.
Thanks! Will include this into my considerations.
I am inclined to go a budget route initially:
Rod: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-Corzza-Series-Baitcast-Rod-CZC-672-L-BF-5752-/142378678748?epid=1839054240&hash=item21266e39dc:g:uyEAAOSw0hlZEtFG
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Major-Craft-BENKEI-BIC-672L-BF-Light-67-bass-fishing-baitcasting-rod-pole-/253149043527?epid=1666939017&hash=item3af0dbdb47:g:QXMAAOSwmLlX2Qtc
Reel:
SV103 with BFS spool:
https://japanlureshop.com/rcs-baitcasting-sv-spool-1000-15315.html
or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/112348374694
of course I am open to other recommendations.
onenutinthewater reply :
Well, what rod did you go with and any good reviews/feedback? I have the conquest bfs and am still looking for a few light duty casting rods with no success..........
BaitFinesse reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 12:09 AM, onenutinthewater said:Well, what rod did you go with and any good reviews/feedback? I have the conquest bfs and am still looking for a few light duty casting rods with no success..........
How light are you looking to go and what species will you be targeting?
DomQ reply :
What about shimano scorpion BFS? Heard its been a deadly light weight lure reel.
onenutinthewater reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 1:11 AM, BaitFinesse said:How light are you looking to go and what species will you be targeting?
Maybe 2-6# rating, using it for 1-5# trout in mountain lakes throwing hardware from boat. Best rod I have found so far is an Edge 622
BaitFinesse reply :
Look at the Majorcraft Finetail line of rods. You're most likely going to have to import something from Japan to find a casting trout rod.
onenutinthewater reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 2:36 AM, BaitFinesse said:Look at the Majorcraft Finetail line of rods. You're most likely going to have to import something from Japan to find a casting trout rod.
That is what I am afraid of but I would rather hear some reviews/comments from folks before blindly pulling the trigger on a few. I looked for the Finetail line and don't see them on their site......
BaitFinesse reply :
http://www.majorcraft.co.jp/rodgenre/trout
You need the Japanese site to view their JFK products.
onenutinthewater reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 4:23 AM, BaitFinesse said:http://www.majorcraft.co.jp/rodgenre/trout
You need the Japanese site to view their JFK products.
Thank you!
BaitFinesse reply :
There is also a line of bass rods with UL powers that may work for your applications as well. Keep in mind that the BFS bass rods will have much more backbone abd be stiffer than the trout rods.
http://www.majorcraft.co.jp/rodgenre/bass
Yudo1 reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 2:26 AM, onenutinthewater said:Maybe 2-6# rating, using it for 1-5# trout in mountain lakes throwing hardware from boat. Best rod I have found so far is an Edge 622
I picked up a kuying teton for like $60 shipped on aliexpress. I didn't want to invest a ton into a trout rod, but I'm pretty impressed with this rod for the money. The only downside is it took a long time to ship from china.
onenutinthewater reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 7:13 PM, Yudo1 said:I picked up a kuying teton for like $60 shipped on aliexpress. I didn't want to invest a ton into a trout rod, but I'm pretty impressed with this rod for the money. The only downside is it took a long time to ship from china.
I am done! i just ordered 2 major craft, 1 Kuying, 2 G Loomis and 1 laminglas rods. i guess I am going to need a few reels next......
BaitFinesse reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 11:12 PM, onenutinthewater said:I am done! i just ordered 2 major craft, 1 Kuying, 2 G Loomis and 1 laminglas rods. i guess I am going to need a few reels next......
It begins.
onenutinthewater reply :
Since I already have 6 Tatula's I am going to order a couple of the DIY honeycomb spools and give them a try for throwing lighter gear. Anyone tried this?
Any other upgrades needed on them while i am ripping them apart? 3 already have the drag clickers installed and I just ordered 3 more.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 11:12 PM, onenutinthewater said:I am done! i just ordered 2 major craft, 1 Kuying, 2 G Loomis and 1 laminglas rods. i guess I am going to need a few reels next......
On 4/26/2018 at 12:50 AM, BaitFinesse said:It begins.
Yup. Guy is in trouble now. 
I've always gone the other way. Needing more rods to equal number of reels on shelf. I'm guessing I am still short on rods by 10-15.
On 4/26/2018 at 2:29 AM, onenutinthewater said:Since I already have 6 Tatula's I am going to order a couple of the DIY spools and give them a try for throwing lighter gear. Anyone tried this? Any other upgrades needed on them while i am ripping them apart?
You probably should upgrade the spool bearings for easier start-up. Carbontex drag set never hurts.
BaitFinesse reply :
On 4/26/2018 at 2:29 AM, onenutinthewater said:Since I already have 6 Tatula's I am going to order a couple of the DIY honeycomb spools and give them a try for throwing lighter gear. Anyone tried this?
Any other upgrades needed on them while i am ripping them apart? 3 already have the drag clickers installed and I just ordered 3 more.
There is a like a 40 or something page thread in the TT forum on these spools. Lots of info.
onenutinthewater reply :
On 4/25/2018 at 11:12 PM, onenutinthewater said:I am done! i just ordered 2 major craft, 1 Kuying, 2 G Loomis and 1 laminglas rods. i guess I am going to need a few reels next......
Well not sure if I will order from Major craft again- Ended up with my package but instead of rods it is huge lures. Obviously they sent me the wrong items. After several emails they tell me the rods are on the way and provided a tracking number for my package. This number identifies with a package bound for Hawaii- that is a long way from Oregon!
I do really like the Kuying Teton- great rod for the price and of course the Loomis rods are outstanding.
fishwizzard reply :
On 5/5/2018 at 11:26 PM, onenutinthewater said:instead of rods it is huge lures.
Lets see those huge lures dude.
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