St. Croix Premier Casting Rods 2024
iamham3 reply :
Does anyone have any insight they can lend on the topic of the St. Croix Premier casting rods in comparison to the Mojo Bass casting rods? I'm looking specifically at 7' MH/F and 7'H/F.
MarkH024 reply :
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/130309-st-croix-mojo-vs-premier/
Fairly recent topic on the same thing. You should be able to find what you're looking for here.
conorsixtakc reply :
The Premiers are more balanced than the Mojos. I actually own both, but prefer the Premier over the Mojo. Pro tip: Cabelas is the only place I've found that sells split grip Premiers.
ColdSVT reply :
I owned a mojo and a premier at th same time...i still have the premier much better balance, more comfy and more sensitive imo
Alpha Male reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 12:25 AM, conorsixtakc said:The Premiers are more balanced than the Mojos. I actually own both, but prefer the Premier over the Mojo. Pro tip: Cabelas is the only place I've found that sells split grip Premiers.
I was just at cabelas for a tackle bag and say the split grip premiers for the first time. They look nice too. I would have to agree with the others go for the premier over the mojo.
wnybassman reply :
I have both in 7' MH/F and prefer the Premiers over the Mojos. The 7' H/F are broomsticks and I have no use for them.
tomustang reply :
On 2/19/2014 at 11:37 PM, iamham3 said:Does anyone have any insight they can lend on the topic of the St. Croix Premier casting rods in comparison to the Mojo Bass casting rods? I'm looking specifically at 7' MH/F and 7'H/F.
They are the same blank with a different paint jobs and the premier has more.weight in the back because of the full cork.
kschultz76 reply :
I would recommend if you're considering the price of the Premier see if you can find an Avid on sale. The extra investment is really worth it. Make sure you handle one before you, the MH Croix baitcasting rods are pretty stout. I'd think the H would be extremely stout and only needed for some very specific purposes.
conorsixtakc reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 7:46 AM, tomustang said:They are the same blank with a different paint jobs and the premier has more.weight in the back because of the full cork.
I'm not sure that's the only difference, the Mojos are also supposed to be technique specific. And St. Croix makes split grip Premiers ^^^.
ww2farmer reply :
I have had both........flip a coin. And I will agree with wnybassman,the 7' H/F is not a rod, it's a pool cue with guides on it. I sold him mine, and he didn't keep it long either LOL.
wnybassman reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 9:50 AM, ww2farmer said:I sold him mine, and he didn't keep it long either LOL.
It's one of few rods I ever sold, ever! lol
ww2farmer reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 10:00 AM, wnybassman said:It's one of the only rods I ever sold, ever! lol
I know..............that only confirms how terrible of a rod it was, that you didn't even want it mingling with the rest of the junk in the corner LMAO
iabass8 reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 9:43 AM, conorsixtakc said:I'm not sure that's the only difference, the Mojos are also supposed to be technique specific. And St. Croix makes split grip Premiers ^^^.
the premier split grips are built for only Cableas. As far as mojo vs premier, they are the exact same blank, guides, cork etc. the only differences are cosmetics and build. you will also find more "technique specific" builds in the mojo line but utilizing the same blank as the premier.
Bankbeater reply :
I'm on the same page as everyone else. I have the 7' mh/f, and IMO it's like a telephone pole.
crankcaster100 reply :
I picked up 2 premiers last weekend and can't wait to try them out
They feel great
Grantman83 reply :
I had at one point had 4 mojos and 3 premiers. As has been stated, the mojos are usually heavier than their rating. The slop n frog 7ft heavy was an unbendable, heavy broom of a rod. Attempting to walk the dog with it was hard and tiring. It honestly could be used as a punch rod lol.
My favorite rod in their lineup was the plastics rod since it was rated a medium but was more a mh.
The premiers felt better to me because I prefer a full grip. The 7m was a great trap, small squarebill rod as it had a good flex to it and I found myself using this rod more than my mojos.
To be fair, I did end up selling all of them lol
conorsixtakc reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 8:53 PM, Grantman83 said:I had at one point had 4 mojos and 3 premiers. As has been stated, the mojos are usually heavier than their rating. The slop n frog 7ft heavy was an unbendable, heavy broom of a rod. Attempting to walk the dog with it was hard and tiring. It honestly could be used as a punch rod lol.
My favorite rod in their lineup was the plastics rod since it was rated a medium but was more a mh.
The premiers felt better to me because I prefer a full grip. The 7m was a great trap, small squarebill rod as it had a good flex to it and I found myself using this rod more than my mojos.
To be fair, I did end up selling all of them lol
So it sounds like the 7' M Plastics Mojo was pretty stout for a M? I may have just found my new finesse jig rod 
. Thanks!
kschultz76 reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 10:16 PM, conorsixtakc said:So it sounds like the 7' M Plastics Mojo was pretty stout for a M? I may have just found my new finesse jig rod
. Thanks!
I'd suggest you check out the 6'8" M/XF blank for finesse jigs. Great rod for top water, Senkos, tubes as well.
iamham3 reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 8:53 PM, Grantman83 said:I had at one point had 4 mojos and 3 premiers. As has been stated, the mojos are usually heavier than their rating. The slop n frog 7ft heavy was an unbendable, heavy broom of a rod. Attempting to walk the dog with it was hard and tiring. It honestly could be used as a punch rod lol.
My favorite rod in their lineup was the plastics rod since it was rated a medium but was more a mh.
The premiers felt better to me because I prefer a full grip. The 7m was a great trap, small squarebill rod as it had a good flex to it and I found myself using this rod more than my mojos.
To be fair, I did end up selling all of them lol
Did you replace them with something at that same price point? If so, what?
I have about $200 worth of credit at BPS and wanted to get a couple multi purpose rods. St. Croix is about the only brand that I have an interest in that they sell. They carry pretty much their full lineup, so I have more choices. I'm trying to step up a little from BPS Carbonlites.
Grantman83 reply :
My experience with st croix ended at the premier level. Several guys swear by them from their warranty, customer service etc. The avids get special praise for around 160-180 if I remember correctly.
iabass8 reply :
I used upper end st croixs for years and a few lower end ones. I dont have many negatives about the upper end but you can do better for a 100$ rod. Especially the past couple years.
conorsixtakc reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 12:43 AM, iabass8 said:I used upper end st croixs for years and a few lower end ones. I dont have many negatives about the upper end but you can do better for a 100$ rod. Especially the past couple years.
I'll bite. What would you have in mind?
Mike2841 reply :
I agree. I've used the triumphs and premiers a lot and for 100$ I think there are better rods, but stepping up to the avid was eye opening.On 2/21/2014 at 12:43 AM, iabass8 said:I used upper end st croixs for years and a few lower end ones. I dont have many negatives about the upper end but you can do better for a 100$ rod. Especially the past couple years.
Mike2841 reply :
I agree. I've used the triumphs and premiers a lot and for 100$ I think there are better rods, but stepping up to the avid was eye opening.On 2/21/2014 at 12:43 AM, iabass8 said:I used upper end st croixs for years and a few lower end ones. I dont have many negatives about the upper end but you can do better for a 100$ rod. Especially the past couple years.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 12:52 AM, conorsixtakc said:I'll bite. What would you have in mind?
Most of my experience with rods is the >250 range. If i were to pick a 100$ rod i would go carbonlite, duckett, or ***.
iamham3 reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 1:22 AM, iabass8 said:Most of my experience with rods is the >250 range. If i were to pick a 100$ rod i would go carbonlite, duckett, or ***.
What makes you say that? Are those other rods better than the Mojos/Premiers performance-wise, or are they just better values?
iabass8 reply :
I couldn't say first hand. Going off what most members have to say about them on here and other boards along with the on paper components of the rods, you are getting a much better rod. St. Croix makes some of the finest rods money can buy when you get to the Avid, Legend Tournaments, and Extremes. I didn't like they way there were going with their new LTB and Xtreme lines so I found a different company I wish I would have found years earlier. Almost all my Croix's are gone and sold except a few that I won't ever sell. At one point, the premiers and mojos were good rods for the money. With all the rod companies now putting out and competing in that 100-120$ range, they really fell behind. They aren't "bad" rods but for 100$ right now, you can find twice the rod for the same price.
The only mojo rods I would ever recommend would be the 7' MHM for squarebills and traps and the 68mxf for topwater/jerbaits. You can find used Legend tournament bass "teaser" models (7' MF) for 140-150 if you look around. That rod was "the one" in its line up. you could do probably 80% of your fishing on that rod alone.
tomustang reply :
Until the mojo/premier stop selling so good they would change or upgrade the lines but it hasn't and now all the other brands caught up. Things like the two coats of flex coat provides added protection means extra weight and a less feel now, it looks like a negative against the others in the price range since are lighter and feel more sensitive without it.
I know you're looking for just answers and you can't get them from everyone's opinion so you'll have to go out to a store that has a variety of rods and put them in your hand for starters. Who knows there might even be someone around to you that has some different rods you can try out
iamham3 reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 3:51 AM, iabass8 said:I couldn't say first hand. Going off what most members have to say about them on here and other boards along with the on paper components of the rods, you are getting a much better rod. St. Croix makes some of the finest rods money can buy when you get to the Avid, Legend Tournaments, and Extremes. I didn't like they way there were going with their new LTB and Xtreme lines so I found a different company I wish I would have found years earlier. Almost all my Croix's are gone and sold except a few that I won't ever sell. At one point, the premiers and mojos were good rods for the money. With all the rod companies now putting out and competing in that 100-120$ range, they really fell behind. They aren't "bad" rods but for 100$ right now, you can find twice the rod for the same price.
The only mojo rods I would ever recommend would be the 7' MHM for squarebills and traps and the 68mxf for topwater/jerbaits. You can find used Legend tournament bass "teaser" models (7' MF) for 140-150 if you look around. That rod was "the one" in its line up. you could do probably 80% of your fishing on that rod alone.
On 2/21/2014 at 4:07 AM, tomustang said:Until the mojo/premier stop selling so good they would change or upgrade the lines but it hasn't and now all the other brands caught up. Things like the two coats of flex coat provides added protection means extra weight and a less feel now, it looks like a negative against the others in the price range since are lighter and feel more sensitive without it.
I know you're looking for just answers and you can't get them from everyone's opinion so you'll have to go out to a store that has a variety of rods and put them in your hand for starters. Who knows there might even be someone around to you that has some different rods you can try out
From what I've read in other posts I think I will invest the most money on rods I'll use for bottom contact, and the rods I'm looking at in the $100 range will be more for multi-purpose use. I had a couple Carbonlites but got rid of them because I thought the Mojos/Premiers would be better values. And like a lot of people I just like getting new toys. I will probably go back to Carbonlites, and eventually buy a St. Croix to satisfy my curiousity. I now know to start with the Avid lineup. I've only been fishing regularly for a little less than a year, so I can't yet justify spending top dollar for equipment.
I appreciate the feedback.
tomustang reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 6:32 AM, iamham3 said:5I've only been fishing regularly for a little less than a year, so I can't yet justify spending top dollar for equipment.
I appreciate the feedback.
I don't think you'll justify spending that much on a rod until you use one and find out it's a different level
0119 reply :
Yeah I'd say you did right dropping a in house brand made in china rod and replacing it with a made in the USA rod model from a company renowned for good customer service.
bflp3 reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 7:05 AM, 119 said:Yeah I'd say you did right dropping a in house brand made in china rod and replacing it with a made in the USA rod model from a company renowned for good customer service.
Mojo's are made in Mexico.
Anyway, I ordered a mojo spinning rod online, but once I got my hands on it I was displeased with how tip heavy it was. Returned it and picked up a Fenwick Elite tech smallmouth rod. Much better balance.
tomustang reply :
On 2/20/2014 at 10:11 AM, iabass8 said:the premier split grips are built for only Cableas.
Just to put this out there, if you break one of those split grip premiers, St Croix will give you a full grip replacement
0119 reply :
On 2/21/2014 at 8:04 AM, bflp3 said:Mojo's are made in Mexico.
Anyway, I ordered a mojo spinning rod online, but once I got my hands on it I was displeased with how tip heavy it was. Returned it and picked up a Fenwick Elite tech smallmouth rod. Much better balance.
I was referring to the Premier, though I'm fortunate enough to have a Mojo that was made in Wisc. pre Mexico.
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