Looking for Best finesse Daiwa baitcaster, anyone try the new smaller tatula 100? 2024
potomac_pete reply :
Can’t afford the tatula sv. Looking at the new tatula 100, says it’s smaller and good for casting light lures. Also considering the tatula ct which seems to have better technology for handling these smaller baits, but that stuff kind of confuses me. Anyone out there tried these that can give me some advice? Think I’m better off just looking for one of the older used sv 105 or 103 series on eBay? I’m also open to other brands in the $100 range if you’re familiar w daiwas and think there’s better options. Thanks. .
iabass8 reply :
The new tatula 100 isnt a finesse reel. It just fot lost in translation being called finesse. Its just a smaller platform tn the current CT size reels. Still a deep spool reel. The alphas sv105 would be a far better option for light line and light baits.
Columbia Craw reply :
I have a new 100. It's an amazing caster. It can handle 1/8 and up. I found mine for 109.00. Well worth it at that price.
CrankFate reply :
I have the new Tatula but I haven’t casted it yet. After flushing the bearings, I can say this reel has some of the fastest and high quality stock bearings of any reel. It will be as close to finesse casting as any reel for the US Market once flushed. These are almost Abec ceramic fast. Unflushed, the bearings are “stoppy” and somehow slow themselves down automatically.
iabass8 reply :
The new Tatula 100's spool weighs 17g. It's nowhere in the realm of being anything close to a finesse casting reel. 1/8oz weight and a worm isn't finesse. Any casting reel and a M action rod can throw those. The SV105 is your chepeast route if you want to actually go "finesse". You can also go used and look for a stock Pixy.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
@iabass8is right about finesse, but what is finesse in OP mind? Weightless Senko? Or weightless finesse worm? 3/8 oz finesse jig? or 1/16 oz Ned rig?
fishballer06 reply :
It really irks me whenever people boast about being able to cast a weightless senko on baitcasting gear. Go throw a 5" Senko on a quality scale and you'll see that they weigh around 3/8oz.
DaveT63 reply :
I agree with iabass8 on the pixy. You can now find used ones on ebay for under $150 pretty regularly, and they are a fantastic reel for that money.
FishDewd reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 2:41 AM, CrankFate said:I have the new Tatula but I haven’t casted it yet. After flushing the bearings, I can say this reel has some of the fastest and high quality stock bearings of any reel. It will be as close to finesse casting as any reel for the US Market once flushed. These are almost Abec ceramic fast. Unflushed, the bearings are “stoppy” and somehow slow themselves down automatically.
How does one flush bearings? I have a couple of tatulas and one in particular casts really well, but I feel like it has that stop effect you mention. Never considered trying a spool bearing flush to see if problem is solved. The bearings are shielded so I'm not sure how to do those
new2BC4bass reply :
Lots of informative articles, gear tests, etc. on this forum for you to enjoy. Many knowledgeable people.
I don't want to burst your bubble, but if you can't afford a Tatula SV then you definitely can't afford the best finesse Daiwa baitcast reel.
Glaucus reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 4:21 AM, fishballer06 said:It really irks me whenever people boast about being able to cast a weightless senko on baitcasting gear. Go throw a 5" Senko on a quality scale and you'll see that they weigh around 3/8oz.
Yep.
However they do cast differently than a hard plastic in 3/8oz.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 4:57 AM, Glaucus said:Yep.
However they do cast differently than a hard plastic in 3/8oz.
Yup cast differently I can cast 3/8 oz jerkbait only 30 yds but cast Senko about a mile and a half ????
Glaucus reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 5:02 AM, JustJames said:Yup cast differently I can cast 3/8 oz jerkbait only 30 yds but cast Senko about a mile and a half ????
It took me awhile to cast Senkos on a baitcaster. Oddly enough the learning curve of using a baitcaster was extremely fast for me. If I remember correctly day 1 or 2 and I was golden for the most part. Senkos on the other hand took a bit and I think it's because of wind resistance. I dunno.
CrankFate reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 4:37 AM, FishDewd said:How does one flush bearings? I have a couple of tatulas and one in particular casts really well, but I feel like it has that stop effect you mention. Never considered trying a spool bearing flush to see if problem is solved. The bearings are shielded so I'm not sure how to do those
I used brake cleaner, then used a compressed gas keyboard cleaner (the one that blows air that is really refrigerant in a red straw tube) to blow out the oil or grease. Then I soaked them in acetone, dried them and soaked them in Ethyl Alcohol, dried them again, then added a drop of oil. They are very, very fast. Faster than any other reel bearings that came with any reel I have, except for Avet reels.
BaitFinesse reply :
Just get a Fuego CT and one of the Ray's Studio DIY finesse spools for Tatula CT. You can get a Fuego CT for under $70 at multiple places and a Ray's spool for $35 on Aliexpress. You could put the combo together for around $100.
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WRB reply :
Casting light weight non aerodynamic lures with a 100 size bait casting reel has more to do with the rod and line then the reel. Super tunning a bait casting reel will add performance only if you have the skill to use it.
To answer OP question about the Daiwa Tatula 100 ability to cast light weight lures is yes.
what rod, line and lures are being used?
Tom
SMITTY0045 reply :
I’m not sure if this is an option for you, but if you’d rather have the SV, they are doing the rod and reel trade in at Bass Pro and Cabela’s. I just purchased an SV and got $30 off for the trade in
CrankFate reply :
On 2/28/2019 at 6:51 AM, WRB said:Casting light weight non aerodynamic lures with a 100 size bait casting reel has more to do with the rod and line then the reel. Super tunning a bait casting reel will add performance only if you have the skill to use it.
To answer OP question about the Daiwa Tatula 100 ability to cast light weight lures is yes.
what rod, line and lures are being used?
Tom
Well said ????
Tim Kelly reply :
I have a rays spool in a tatula CT and on the right rod it will cast 1/16 with 3/4 of a zoom tiny fluke on it reasonably accurately and far enough. It's not as easy as my alphas with cosugi spool, but then it doesn't cost anywhere near that either. The Tatula CT and 100 both take the same spool, so I would imagine it would work fine for you too. The rays spools are well worth getting if you want to cast lighter baits. Put some 10lb braid on it and it's very benign to cast.
CrankFate reply :
Whelp, here’s pics of the Tatula spool weight.
25.18 grams spooled with 20lb braid. An aftermarket BFS spool is only
11.44 grams spooled with 20lb braid.
So it does throw finesse into question.
The wired thing is, with the BFS spool in the reel, it is harder to start and stops too fast. Like it might not actually work, unless I back off the zero adjust. Even more weird— the zero adjust is easy to turn with the aftermarket spool. It’s even easier to turn than a standard knob with the BFS spool in the reel.
???
iabass8 reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 9:34 AM, CrankFate said:Whelp, here’s pics of the Tatula spool weight.
25.18 grams spooled with 20lb braid. An aftermarket BFS spool is only
11.44 grams spooled with 20lb braid.
So it does throw finesse into question.
The wired thing is, with the BFS spool in the reel, it is harder to start and stops too fast. Like it might not actually work, unless I back off the zero adjust. Even more weird— the zero adjust is easy to turn with the aftermarket spool. It’s even easier to turn than a standard knob with the BFS spool in the reel.
???
The DIY spool for the CT does indeed work in the new 100. Remove a shim.
CrankFate reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 10:04 AM, iabass8 said:The DIY spool for the CT does indeed work in the new 100. Remove a shim.
No way! You don’t want to know how long it took to put them on.
I don’t have time for that kind of project at the moment.
iabass8 reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 10:11 AM, CrankFate said:No way! You don’t want to know how long it took to put them on.
I don’t have time for that kind of project at the moment.
Remove the spool side shim or the shim under the CC knob. It will take you 2 minutes. You don't need to open up the reel to remove them. Zero adjust is just there for people new to baitcasting reels. If you use different spools in reels /w it, you have to adjust the CC knob anyway. The reason your DIY spool is difficult to use unless you back the CC knob off is because of the length of the spool shaft. It's a cheap spool and imperfections are notorious for them. Sometimes you have to play /w shim thickness' or using one side or the other without the other. Polishing them down /w a dremel is also an easy alternative.
CrankFate reply :
On 3/1/2019 at 10:20 AM, iabass8 said:Remove the spool side shim or the shim under the CC knob. It will take you 2 minutes. You don't need to open up the reel to remove them. Zero adjust is just there for people new to baitcasting reels. If you use different spools in reels /w it, you have to adjust the CC knob anyway. The reason your DIY spool is difficult to use unless you back the CC knob off is because of the length of the spool shaft. It's a cheap spool and imperfections are notorious for them. Sometimes you have to play /w shim thickness' or using one side or the other without the other. Polishing them down /w a dremel is also an easy alternative.
Ooohhh, I thought you meant the shims under the c-clip on the spool!!! That makes sense, I’ll try it.
FishDewd reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 9:40 AM, CrankFate said:I used brake cleaner, then used a compressed gas keyboard cleaner (the one that blows air that is really refrigerant in a red straw tube) to blow out the oil or grease. Then I soaked them in acetone, dried them and soaked them in Ethyl Alcohol, dried them again, then added a drop of oil. They are very, very fast. Faster than any other reel bearings that came with any reel I have, except for Avet reels.
Ah that makes sense. Thanks. I'll have to do that sometime, if I ever get the courage to take my Daiwa reels a part...
CrankFate reply :
On 3/4/2019 at 3:45 AM, FishDewd said:Ah that makes sense. Thanks. I'll have to do that sometime, if I ever get the courage to take my Daiwa reels a part...
Unless you know your bad with small parts and tiny screws—just do it. It’s not that hard. Unless you lose a piece.
FishDewd reply :
On 3/4/2019 at 6:30 AM, CrankFate said:Unless you know your bad with small parts and tiny screws—just do it. It’s not that hard. Unless you lose a piece.
I looked at a tutorial for a similar reel, just never done a diawa before. I've only torn down one low profile BC reel before, mostly it's been round/tradtional reels and spinners I have worked on. Would feel better if there was a tutorial I could follow for my exact models but I am yet to see one. I might just let a local shop service them for me.
CrankFate reply :
On 3/4/2019 at 8:35 AM, FishDewd said:I looked at a tutorial for a similar reel, just never done a diawa before. I've only torn down one low profile BC reel before, mostly it's been round/tradtional reels and spinners I have worked on. Would feel better if there was a tutorial I could follow for my exact models but I am yet to see one. I might just let a local shop service them for me.
Find a tear down video on YouTube. The main thing is to keep all Belleville washers oriented properly and don’t lose any springs. They’re all almost exactly the same.
Shimano_1 reply :
I may not consider finesse being as light as some of you guys do. However, all my daiwas will sling light baits better than any reels I've owned. Have a new tatula 100 and several ct's and the 100 is favorable in every way so far. Super nice reel for the 109 they can be had for
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 3/10/2019 at 2:18 PM, Shimano_1 said:I may not consider finesse being as light as some of you guys do. However, all my daiwas will sling light baits better than any reels I've owned. Have a new tatula 100 and several ct's and the 100 is favorable in every way so far. Super nice reel for the 109 they can be had for
What’s yr screen name?????
new2BC4bass reply :
On 3/10/2019 at 9:52 PM, JustJames said:What’s yr screen name?????
Things change. We often only consider the moment when creating a username. I've been using baitcast reels for 10 years now and have about 80 so my username is no longer valid either. Don't know if I can change it, tho.
Heartland reply :
On 2/27/2019 at 2:41 AM, CrankFate said:I have the new Tatula but I haven’t casted it yet. After flushing the bearings, I can say this reel has some of the fastest and high quality stock bearings of any reel. It will be as close to finesse casting as any reel for the US Market once flushed. These are almost Abec ceramic fast. Unflushed, the bearings are “stoppy” and somehow slow themselves down automatically.
Your post made me feel like I wanted to offer some information that may be helpful. If you are already aware please take no offense and just ignore this post, as it may help another. ABEC is not a brand, ABEC is an (U.S.) industry accepted engineer standard. ABEC is the acronym for Annular Bearing Engineering Committee, and they set standards to which bearings are rated, which is now 1-9 with the higher number having tighter tolerances. Ceramic bearings are available in various ABEC ratings, so to say, "ABEC ceramic fast" is not an entirely accurate or descriptive statement and may lead one to think that you are mixing or confusing the standard with a brand name.
thedilettantedad reply :
Buy once, cry once.
Looks like the SV is $173 on Amazon right now. If you can budget the extra $73 over the next 1-2 months, may be worth just pulling the trigger.
Shimano_1 reply :
Never said I didnt still use shimanos. He wasnt asking if a shimano would cast light lures was he? I gave my opinion on the daiwas. And yes things change lol. 5 years ago I didnt think anything existed besides shimano. My last several reel purchases have been daiwa. I like the direction daiwa has went more than shimano
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