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Shimano Question 2024


fishing user avatarWbeadlescomb reply : 

Every shimano baitcaster I've ever bought has an extra set of brakes in the box. Is this because if dropped or easily lost? I know the curados I bought the other day had the red brakes installed but there's a spare pack of white ones? Have I been missing out on something all these years and these create less resistance? I usually have only 1 of the brakes pulled up and 0 up on a couple so even if it did I guess it wouldn't make a difference.


fishing user avatarrbreedi1 reply : 

There just spare brakes incase you somehow lose the others or something is wrong with it. Never once had to use them.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are

considered light and green is standard.


fishing user avatarWbeadlescomb reply : 

I think mine are reddish pink. So if I swap them for the white ones why are the benefits?


fishing user avatarfrogflogger reply : 

lighter brakes - faster spool - the old ambassadors had several sizes


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

The extra weights are not spares.

 

They are heavier tan the ones installed on the reel, heavier = more braking = slower spool, it comes

handy when fishing with heavy baits ( like large cranks, spinners and swimbaits .


fishing user avatarNathanW reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 4:40 AM, Raul said:

The extra weights are not spares.

 

They are heavier tan the ones installed on the reel, heavier = more braking = slower spool, it comes

handy when fishing with heavy baits ( like large cranks, spinners and swimbaits .

Wow, I am glad he asked that questions because I would have never known this. Always thought they were spares and never read into it further.


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 

The new metanium & antares are shipped with spares rather than different weights. Somebody with the new curado I & chronarch C14+ need to answer for those. Previous generations did have different weight brake sets ( different colors).


fishing user avatarBryanBrown reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 6:05 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

The new metanium & antares are shipped with spares rather than different weights. Somebody with the new curado I & chronarch C14+ need to answer for those. Previous generations did have different weight brake sets ( different colors).

My new Curado I came with just spares (red clips).


fishing user avatarDirtyDeuceGoose reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 6:25 AM, BryanBrown said:

My new Curado I came with just spares (red clips).

Mine too.


fishing user avatar*Hootie reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 6:27 AM, DirtyDeuceGoose said:

Mine too.

Mine too.

Hootie


fishing user avatarAlonerankin2 reply : 

Mine too!


fishing user avatarbflp3 reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 6:25 AM, BryanBrown said:

My new Curado I came with just spares (red clips).

Chronarch Ci4+ was just spares too.


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 4:06 AM, roadwarrior said:

Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are

considered light and green is standard.

 

Hmmmm.  Bought a Curado 51E on closeout 2 years ago.   Never paid attention to what was in the box besides the oil.  I see a wrench and extra plastic pieces in pink and green.  Reel has all pink ones installed.  I too am glad this question got asked although I did know that there were other colors available for different braking.  Didn't realize I had extra, tho.


fishing user avatarpaul25 reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 5:43 AM, NathanW said:

Wow, I am glad he asked that questions because I would have never known this. Always thought they were spares and never read into it further.

x2 i've been fishing shimano reels for a while and never knew that.


fishing user avatarZimobass reply : 

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the spare breaks for the newer models, such as Ci4+ and Curado I, are just to replace the installed ones in the event of wear. As the new infinite SVS breaking system works so well, there is no need for lighter weights, as was the case with the previous generations of their reels.


fishing user avatarWar Eagle 44 reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 12:13 PM, Zimobass said:

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the spare breaks for the newer models, such as Ci4+ and Curado I, are just to replace the installed ones in the event of wear. As the new infinite SVS breaking system works so well, there is no need for lighter weights, as was the case with the previous generations of their reels.

No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand.

 

Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable.  


fishing user avatarbootytrain reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 6:05 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

The new metanium & antares are shipped with spares rather than different weights. Somebody with the new curado I & chronarch C14+ need to answer for those. Previous generations did have different weight brake sets ( different colors).

Actually the new Metanium has extra white brake blocks that are thinner (you can see the difference in this picture), lighter, and provide less friction and braking force. If you swap out all the red ones for the white ones then you will see a noticeable gain in casting distance, but the spool also becomes less friendly. So if you have a new Metanium and want more distance try switching brake blocks. A few people actually mix the reds and whites together.

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fishing user avatarWar Eagle 44 reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 3:36 PM, bootytrain said:

Actually the new Metanium has extra white brake blocks that are thinner (you can see the difference in this picture), lighter, and provide less friction and braking force. If you swap out all the red ones for the white ones then you will see a noticeable gain in casting distance, but the spool also becomes less friendly. So if you have a new Metanium and want more distance try switching brake blocks. A few people actually mix the reds and whites together.

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Thank you!!


fishing user avatarZimobass reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 3:20 PM, War Eagle 44 said:

No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand.

 

Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable.  

 

You should read the post that I made and not make inaccurate conclusions. I never mentioned the Metanium, merely the Chronarch Ci4 and Curado I. I also do not go on the internet to just say things,(as per your post before being edited) and assure you that my intent is to assist others, and learn myself from forums such as this one. 

 

You may wish to look at this http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=56074


fishing user avatarWar Eagle 44 reply : 

I did indeed read your post that's why I responded. In particular the part where you state the SVS system works so well there isn't a need for lighter blocks is purely speculation on your part. Just because you may not need them doesn't mean others won't.

Then you state that this was the case with previous generations. Well then if this is an accurate statement you could have saved Shimano all that time and money wasted on testing, development, and distribution of their multiple weight brake blocks.

I did almost immediately edit my first post but it sure won't happen again.


fishing user avatarHogsticker reply : 

What is happening right now?


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

Man, cabin fever is epidemic!

 

We don't want to be like some other forums where tempers flare unchecked.

This is an informative thread regarding reel brakes. Any misinformation may

be corrected, but no one is going to die.

 

Take a deep breath and a short break before posting again.

 

I believe my earlier post is on spot. Please address this if I am incorrect:

 

"Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are

considered light and green is standard."

 


fishing user avatarGoose52 reply : 

If you look in the FAQs on Shimano's web site this is what they say about the brake (they spell break!) collars:

 


 Why are there more than one color of break weights for my Baitcasting VBS system?
 
Shimano makes two different break weights; Heavy (Black, Grey, or Green in color) and Light (Red, Blue, and Clear in color). Most of the new reels are shipped with the light break weights on the reel, and the heavy break weights in packaging in the box. If the light break weights don’t provide adequate spool stopping power, change them simply by pulling them off of the spool and replace them with the heavier weights.


 

Of course - this is pre-SVS.

 

FWIW


fishing user avatarZimobass reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 8:26 PM, roadwarrior said:

Man, cabin fever is epidemic!

 

We don't want to be like some other forums where tempers flare unchecked.

This is an informative thread regarding reel brakes. Any misinformation may

be corrected, but no one is going to die.

 

Take a deep breath and a short break before posting again.

 

I believe my earlier post is on spot. Please address this if I am incorrect:

 

"Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are

considered light and green is standard."

 

Yes Sir. That is a correct statement. I was never implying anything about the older generation Shimano reels, and was taken out of context by another poster. What I objected to, as was posted to my email address by this forums administrators, was this statement:

 

" No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand.

It's amazing to me how people will get on the internet a just say things without really knowing what they're talking about. Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable."

 

I am a man of certain principles, and will be the first to acknowledge that I am wrong, if I need to. But I also have the right to post to this forum, just as other members have. Not one to hold grudges, and certainly not suffering from cabin fever, as I live in the southern hemisphere and bassing is just great  :grin:


fishing user avatar00 mod reply : 

OK, so I have all of the reels mentioned in this thread, and here is 100% accurate info.

 

Metanium - Mine came from Japan, before they released in US- comes with red on and white in package

 

Ci4- comes with red on and red in the box

 

Curado I - comes with red on and red in box

 

Jeff


fishing user avatarJay Ell Gee reply : 

My Curado I came with spare reds as well.


fishing user avatarbootytrain reply : 

Bantam1 confirmed that the spare red brake blocks that comes with the Curado I are just spares, and not any different from the ones already on the spool :(


fishing user avatarWar Eagle 44 reply : 
  On 3/8/2014 at 9:57 PM, Zimobass said:

Yes Sir. That is a correct statement. I was never implying anything about the older generation Shimano reels, and was taken out of context by another poster. What I objected to, as was posted to my email address by this forums administrators, was this statement:

 

" No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand.

It's amazing to me how people will get on the internet a just say things without really knowing what they're talking about. Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable."

 

I am a man of certain principles, and will be the first to acknowledge that I am wrong, if I need to. But I also have the right to post to this forum, just as other members have. Not one to hold grudges, and certainly not suffering from cabin fever, as I live in the southern hemisphere and bassing is just great  :grin:

I don't understand how you can say you didn't "imply anything about the older generation reels" when you clearly did. Also my statement you have taken offense to is correct, you did post and know nothing about what you were saying. If you're a man of certain principles and will be the first to acknowledge you're wrong then it seems to me this is the time.

 

I'd also like to take this time to say that maybe I worded my first reply to strongly and that's the reason I immediately edited it. I didn't want to seem as if I were attacking you specifically, I just see so many "inaccuracies" on these boards regarding Shimano equipment that it gets to me sometimes. I mean I just don't know where people come up with some of it. A little common sense and thought would go a long way in these matters usually.

 

Consider this matter settled on my end and I'm sorry for coming on so strong in the beginning.   


fishing user avatarZimobass reply : 

I had planned on answering this response with showing what I said, and what you read, but won't go there. I know more about Shimano than most, but am always willing to learn more.

 

I accept your apology, and apologise to you if you feel that I was misleading anyone...............which I was not.

 

 

There is a bridge ahead. Let's walk over it.




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