I guess it would depend on the rod since all companies are different but would a mod fast action work for a spinnerbait rod?
In some technique specific rods I keep seen mod fast popping up st.croix Mojo and lews custom speed sticks come to mind. I've always thought that for single hook Baits you would need a fast tip but everybody has there preference.
is there even that big of a difference between fast and mod fast
Sorry mods i didn't realize it double posted
It does vary from rod-maker to rod-maker.
In general though, a single-hook lure leaves your options open (mf-f-xf),
while treble hooks and small single-hooks are favored by a 'moderate-fast' action
MF/F are both fine for spinnerbaits, I personally prefer MF.
Depends on the company but most of the Dobyns spinnerbait stuff is moderate and their new 735/736 is glass
Moderate fast action will work on a spinnerbait rod as long as there's enough power and back bone to drive the heavy hook home. Remember slower action doesn't have to mean softer or whippy tip.
On 2/1/2017 at 10:54 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Moderate fast action will work on a spinnerbait rod as long as there's enough power and back bone to drive the heavy hook home. Remember slower action doesn't have to mean softer or whippy tip.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When I fish big single hook moving baits (usually chatterbaits and swim jigs) I do it on a MH rod that I would consider mod. fast, but it's still a powerfull rod.
I use 7 medium heavy moderate fast for my spinnerbait rod I like the extra give in the rod I have had no issues with hook sets I used to use a medium heavy fast but found that it was to stiff for slinging single hook baits such as chatter baits and spinnerbaits I prefer the action of a mhmf.
I use a Composite Cranking stick for long bombing (non-target) casting spinnerbaits.
Works for me.
A-Jay
Unlike a jig or worm presentation with a single hook, spinnerbaits and buzzbaits are faster moving presentations. There needs to be a little give somewhere in your equipment so the bait isn't pulled out of their mouth before they can close it. Mod/Fast is a good choice (IMO) for a spinnerbait rod, but as stated above, make sure it has the power to drive that bigger hook home. If it doesn't, you may be able to get away with using it and braided line. Not the best option, but if that's all you have....
With the above said - what are your favorite spinner bait / swim jig rods that won't break the bank ?
On 2/1/2017 at 6:13 PM, ChrisD46 said:With the above said - what are your favorite spinner bait / swim jig rods that won't break the bank ?
I throw a All Star Pro Series PR826C medium heavy fast, it has an extra long handle (18" from butt to fore grip). I also throw Rat-L-Traps on it.
Academy Sports & Outdoors $39.95
On 2/1/2017 at 6:13 PM, ChrisD46 said:With the above said - what are your favorite spinner bait / swim jig rods that won't break the bank ?
6' 10" MH/F (though it feels more MF to me), Ethos rod from Academy. Normally $60 but I picked it up for $27.
What's your budget?
im using the mojo bass scIII spinner bait series. Paid 110 bucks on Black Friday sale.
IMO, you don't need to spend a lot for a spinnerbait rod. Sensitivity isn't a concern, so pick something that's light enough for you to chuck and wind with for extended periods, but still has the power and action that you'll need.
I've used a falcon bucoo trapcaster (7 foot, Med Heavy, Mod fast) for spinnerbaits and it works well. Sometimes you can find them in the $50 range. They are being replace by the bucoo sr, so maybe they'll pop up for less.
A mod fast rod will cast spinnerbaits nicely, but you'll want to be sure your hooks are sharp. I prefer an X-fast taper for spinnerbaits, which helps quickly drive the hook home.
My budget is $150 max, trying to stick around the Mojo price range.
Im actually in the market for a whole new arsenal of rods and I am trying to keep the rods in my arsenal all from the same line that way I know the different powers and actions will all feel different
i dont want to get say a jig rod from on company and a frog rod from a mother just for both rods to feel the same.
im looking at either the lews custom speed stick or the Abu IKE series they both have the lengths and actions I'm looking for.
i was going to go Dobyns Fury line but there lack of a short mod fast rod with short handle for jerkbaits and walk the dog type Baits turned me away from them.
anyone have any ideas on a line of rods that has a versatile selection of rods in lengths powers and actions?
On 2/2/2017 at 1:44 AM, MDbassin said:anyone have any ideas on a line of rods that has a versatile selection of rods in lengths powers and actions?
Pretty much all of the above, when it comes to bass gear.
On 2/2/2017 at 1:44 AM, MDbassin said:My budget is $150 max, trying to stick around the Mojo price range.
Im actually in the market for a whole new arsenal of rods and I am trying to keep the rods in my arsenal all from the same line that way I know the different powers and actions will all feel different
i dont want to get say a jig rod from on company and a frog rod from a mother just for both rods to feel the same.
im looking at either the lews custom speed stick or the Abu IKE series they both have the lengths and actions I'm looking for.
i was going to go Dobyns Fury line but there lack of a short mod fast rod with short handle for jerkbaits and walk the dog type Baits turned me away from them.
anyone have any ideas on a line of rods that has a versatile selection of rods in lengths powers and actions?
I was also looking at the dobyns fury rods but they don't have any rods under 7 foot and I'm looking for a top water jerk bait rod also I like using 6'6 ,6'8 ,6'9 ,rods.
On 2/2/2017 at 2:20 AM, Pilot. said:I was also looking at the dobyns fury rods but they don't have any rods under 7 foot and I'm looking for a top water jerk bait rod also I like using 6'6 ,6'8 ,6'9 ,rods.
That's why I'm looking at lews custom speed stick and Abu IKE series. The Abu jerkbait rod is 6'4 with a 12" handle.
was considering the Mojo but there jerkbait rod is fast action in looking for mod fast
If I personally was picking between the two rods I would go with the Ike delay series of rods. @fishnkamp owns one of these rods you might want to ask him I'm not sure which one but I know it's an Ike abu delay series.
Dobyns Furys with a Dobyns Sierra 6'8" medium for your jerkbaits.
I love the Daiwa Tatula line of rods. Not a stinker in the line. 7'1" or the 7'2" MHR are great spinnerbait, swimbait, chatterbait rods.
Pilot you are correct. I have the Ike delay series 6'4" jerkbait rod. It works really nice. If you look closely at the entire line of Ike rods you will find 15 different rods. Some casting delay series, some regular casting and some spinning. I have never fished any of the others.
On 2/2/2017 at 8:11 AM, webertime said:Dobyns Furys with a Dobyns Sierra 6'8" medium for your jerkbaits.
My problem is still the handle length and it's fast action. Dobyns fast action maybe slower then others I don't know but I have fished jerkbaits in the past with fast action and it worked but I wasn't a fan of it and the rod I tried using then was a 13" handle (the 6'8" sierra is 13 1/2") and it was still a little cumbersome (I like to hold the rod close to me so it would hit my gut)
and the fury line has a crankbait rod with a mod fast action but it's 7ft and I'm a bank fisherman and where I fish from the bank I am right at the water level I'm no more then 3inches above the water so trying to twitch the rod for a jerkbait/spook would be a nightmare for me
Then look at the 7' MLR Tatula. 12" handle
On 2/2/2017 at 7:24 AM, Pilot. said:If I personally was picking between the two rods I would go with the Ike delay series of rods. @fishnkamp owns one of these rods you might want to ask him I'm not sure which one but I know it's an Ike abu delay series.
The only reason I have narrowed it to these 2 series of rods is cause they seem to have the most versatile selection of rod lengths, powers, and actions. They seem to have what I'm looking for as far as that aspect for certain techniques. Short mod fast jerkbait/topwater rod, 7ft or so mod/mod fast crankbait rod,7ft or so mod fast/fast spinnerbait/buzzbait/chatterbait/ swim jig rod, 7ft or so MH/F for t rig and jigs, 7ft or so H/F for heavier jigs and frogs
On 2/2/2017 at 9:48 AM, webertime said:Then look at the 7' MLR Tatula. 12" handle
Ok I will look into the Tatula rods. I've looked at them before but they confused me with the "regular" action what is there regular action
On 2/2/2017 at 9:51 AM, MDbassin said:The only reason I have narrowed it to these 2 series of rods is cause they seem to have the most versatile selection of rod lengths, powers, and actions. They seem to have what I'm looking for as far as that aspect for certain techniques. Short mod fast jerkbait/topwater rod, 7ft or so mod/mod fast crankbait rod,7ft or so mod fast/fast spinnerbait/buzzbait/chatterbait/ swim jig rod, 7ft or so MH/F for t rig and jigs, 7ft or so H/F for heavier jigs and frogs
Ok I will look into the Tatula rods. I've looked at them before but they confused me with the "regular" action what is there regular action
If it's anything like megabass regular taper it's a modfast
Think of Daiwa's "regular" as "Dobyns like". They are mod fast.
my opinion on mod action rods for moving baits, is the flex in the blanks hooks fish different than a fast action. if you can imagine the difference of pulling a hook into your hand and jerking it in, that is it. the hook basically pierces, making it almost impossible for the fish to throw the bait.
you can accomplish something similar by stepping down a power in the rod also. a med power rod (depending on the company, abu you would need a med lt) vs a med hvy will have more flex. some folks don't really think that's a great idea, but i've had no problems with it for single hook baits.
I made a change last year after fishing spinnerbait on MHF or MHXF rods for years and picked up a 7'1 (or 7'3, I forget) Fenwick Aetos MH MF originally just for spinnerbaits. Afterer switching to braid from mono, I felt like I was missing fish due to there not being any stretch or flex to buffer aggressive strikes and I wanted to be able to stretch my casts a bit further. At first, I was surprised with the action - they're mod fast is closer to many company's Fast actions, but with just enough give. Since, it's also become my chatterbait rod, and I feel like I'll find half a dozen more uses for it by the end of this season.
I'm going to take advantage of BPS trade-in next week and get a new spinnerbait rod. I fish spinnerbaits in a variety of ways, but my #1 technique is kind of sniper mode where I make relatively short to shallow water structure. I put more premium on accuracy with spinnerbaits, and generally fish 3/8 oz. I'll go down to 1/4 more often than I'll go up to 1/2. Considering either the St. Croix Avid X or the Loomis E6X. Specifically:
1A. St. Croix Avid X. 6'6" M/F.
1B. St. Croix Avid X. 6'6" MH/F.
1C. St. Croix Avid X. 6'8" M/XF.
1D. St. Croix Avid X. 7' M/F.
2A. Loomix E6X. 6'6" M/F
2B. Loomis E6X. 7' MH/F.
I own a couple of Avid's, no Avid X's and I have never owned a Loomis. The line rating and lure weight are listed quite a bit differently between Loomis and St. Croix, I guess I can assume that a St. Croix M is going to have a little more in the butt than a Loomis?
I don't see the Avid line on the BPS website, but I'm almost sure my store has some. I'm going to go in and do some shopping today, if they have an Avid in a 6'6" M/F I'll probably go that route.