Okuma Tcs Rods 2025
robster80 reply :
anyone use these?. found some for around 100 a piece thinking of trying the 6'9mh for maybe spinnerbaits and topwaters. ive handled em in store and they feel nice
J Francho reply :
I have the APC 6-9 caster, and I love it. It's got a "not so fast" taper that makes a great everything rod. Lately I've been slaying fish on it throwing a Popmax. It's currently saddled with a Daiwa Sol. Not a bad package.
robster80 reply :
medium heavy?On 5/20/2015 at 3:49 AM, J Francho said:I have the APC 6-9 caster, and I love it. It's got a "not so fast" taper that makes a great everything rod. Lately I've been slaying fish on it throwing a Popmax. It's currently saddled with a Daiwa Sol. Not a bad package.
J Francho reply :
I think it's a medium. I'd have to double check.
smalljaw67 reply :
On 5/20/2015 at 3:43 AM, robster80 said:anyone use these?. found some for around 100 a piece thinking of trying the 6'9mh for maybe spinnerbaits and topwaters. ive handled em in store and they feel nice
Remember, these rods are just about all mod to mod fast actions so no stretch line is your best bet with single hook presentations.
Cgrinder reply :
I have the 7'3" HF Frog and Swimbait. It's a nice rod. The locking nut foregrip is a little big.
Grantman83 reply :
I can tell you their softness runs true in the spinning rods as well. The shakey head rod I bought has a parabolic action which makes it more than able to pull drop shot duty.
These rods were obviously made with braid in mind. The softer action sure helps prevent you pulling the bait away. For the price, they are light sensitive and look awesome IMO. However, the action needs to be taken into account when buying them so you don't feel dissapointed
Montanaro reply :
I'm thinking of getting more. I have 7' MH apc and is great for small to medium cranks and moving single hook lures.
Yes it has slow action but that doesn't mean you need braid! Some of their models are fast action but most are modfast or moderate.
They look really sharp and are lightweight. They have a model for every tournament technique too. Jacob Wheeler and Scott Martin use these rods almost exclusively and have had numerous top 25 finishes since their release even a win at bassfest.
The performance simply CANNOT be beat by any other rod at the $100 price range! At the msrp of $150 it has more competition but still stands it's ground.
Glenn reply :
I have several and want to get more. Super light rods built for heavy-duty action. I can pitch all day long and not tire out.
shawnmc reply :
I have the 7'mh. Use it for squarebills but it's definitely multi purpose. Great rod and like was said before can't be beat at that price. Feels like a higher end rod.
Montanaro reply :
I'm half tempted to sell my new daiwa s frog rod for a tcs. Daiwa s is a $100 rod and has large guides and pretty much no handle or features. Just a large (albeit light) blank.
robster80 reply :
ill go back and put my hands on the rod again in store. i dont plan on using braid but surely the mod fast would be fine for topwaters and spinnerbaits,etc.
J Francho reply :
You don't need braid. Total nonsense purported by someone that hasn't used the rod. I'm literally at nearly 100 fish on chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, squarebills, traps, and now most recently poppers. I dig that it ISN'T overly specialized. Great for kayak trips, and for keeping in the truck for you never know what.
I also have the Mat Daddy. Both are fully reviewed in the article section.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
How would the TCS fair compared to the C3-40X rod at the same price???
The C3 6'10" MH/F is $100 at a big tackled dealer it has 40ton blank with Titanium guides zirconium inserts. The TCS is SS guide aluminum oxide inserts.
Montanaro reply :
On 5/20/2015 at 11:35 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:How would the TCS fair compared to the C3-40X rod at the same price???
The C3 6'10" MH/F is $100 at a big tackled dealer it has 40ton blank with Titanium guides zirconium inserts. The TCS is SS guide aluminum oxide inserts.
Tcs has smaller guides and different reel seat. Never held the c3 but it looks less comfortable. Also they come in fast actions. Not a bad rod but the tcs appears to have taken its spot.
smalljaw67 reply :
On 5/20/2015 at 11:35 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:How would the TCS fair compared to the C3-40X rod at the same price???
The C3 6'10" MH/F is $100 at a big tackled dealer it has 40ton blank with Titanium guides zirconium inserts. The TCS is SS guide aluminum oxide inserts.
The C3-40X rods are the real deal, a much better rod in my opinion and were originally priced higher than the TCS.
smalljaw67 reply :
On 5/20/2015 at 11:11 AM, J Francho said:You don't need braid. Total nonsense purported by someone that hasn't used the rod. I'm literally at nearly 100 fish on chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, squarebills, traps, and now most recently poppers. I dig that it ISN'T overly specialized. Great for kayak trips, and for keeping in the truck for you never know what.
I also have the Mat Daddy. Both are fully reviewed in the article section.
I spoke to an Okuma Rep on the phone about the TCS rods as I loved the look but the actions weren't for me and here is exactly what I was told. They said Scott was given free reign over all the actions in the rod series and they were all optimized for the use of braid. It doesn't mean you need to use braid but if you are fishing jigs mono would not be a great choice, you should at least use 17lb fluorocarbon to maximize hook setting efficiency but todays hooks are super sharp so it isn't too much of a concern. They are considering expanding the line as numerous anglers, mainly from the northern sections of the country have expressed interest in the rods but with faster actions for lighter lines in clear water environments. I'm not wanting to make you made but I had a nice discussion about these when they first came out and what you said is true, you don't need braid but their product rep told me that the rods were indeed made for braid specifically which is why most of the rods have slower actions. The only rods with a fast rating are the Mat Daddy rods and they were made that way because Scott will often use fluorocarbon with the techniques he uses those rods for, so the rods were made with added strength to take the shock of braid but they are also faster than others because Scott likes a faster action with fluorocarbon. There were a couple rods I liked in that line but with me using mono for most of my fishing, it makes these rods an entire series of cranking rods and the product rep agreed and told me that he wouldn't recommend mono with those rods, only fluorocarbon but your best bet is with braid.
J Francho reply :
Weird that it works fine for literally over 100, many of them smallmouth with what many here call stretchy CXX. Might need to work on your hooksets. Did you try any with line other than braid?
Montanaro reply :
Scott Martin uses these rods will all sorts of flouro and copoly and doesn't have a problem.
But yes these rods do accommodate braid.
Bassfink86 reply :
have the 7'6" flipping/jig rod paired with a Lew's Tournament Pro using 15lbs. Invisx, great rod, super sensitive
Cgrinder reply :
The frog and swimbait rod does not need braid. She fast!
Grantman83 reply :
I don't think people are saying that you have to use braid or that they don't work, merely that they were designed with braid in mind.
I don't think it's nonsense to repeat what passed on to consumers when the rods were released. I'm sure they catch fish fine with regular line however the action may not be what some imagine or prefer for their purported techniques.
J Francho reply :
So, do you place more value in what a company sales rep says than what another fisherman that had used the gear?
Anyway, I have to take a few photos, and the review will be up in a few days.
Grantman83 reply :
Not trying to start a fight. Merely trying to present as much information as possible
smalljaw67 reply :
On 5/21/2015 at 3:40 AM, Grantman83 said:I don't think people are saying that you have to use braid or that they don't work, merely that they were designed with braid in mind.
I don't think it's nonsense to repeat what passed on to consumers when the rods were released. I'm sure they catch fish fine with regular line however the action may not be what some imagine or prefer for their purported techniques.
This^^^^ I didn't want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, and I never used the rod and I didn't say it wouldn't work with other lines. What I'm saying is that when someone asks about the rods, they should know the they were designed to be used with braided line and if you are going to use mono you may find the rods have more of a crankbait type action and more power or heavier line may be needed to set the hook. The information I posted came directly from a product rep as I like Okuma, I have a V-System 200 casting reel that I use for heavy flipping and frogs, I have an Inspira spinning reel for finesse tactics and I have an Induron 150 round casting reel that I used for deep diving cranks. I called about those TCS rods because I liked them and the guy told me the action were made braid specific and it isn't that other line would not work it is just that they were, in fact, made to be used with braid but if you prefer a slower action with mono then it would be fine but not my cup of tea and I think it is fair to let people looking at them know what they are going to get, I've seen people posting bad reviews on the rods because they didn't realize the actions were moderate. That is all I mean, nothing more.
Montanaro reply :
I haven't seen one bad review. I have seen people mention the action was slower than they realized.
And Scott Martin fishes Okeechobee a lot and the Matt daddy rods do appear designed for braid due to flipping heavy cover. A lot of people like a slower rod in that scenario.
In the video of Scott talking about the production of the rod, they were all designed for techniques and how he likes to fish those techniques. He fishes slower rods, so do a lot of bass resource members. Doesn't mean he uses braid for everything because he doesnt.
Or we could message him, he is a member of bass resource.
J Francho reply :
That's the kind of Internet rumbling that inspires me to write these reviews. One guy says something, and that gets repeated ad nauseum until it becomes perceived reality. It's exactly why I beat the crap out of the stuff companies send me. You know what happens when something doesn't make the cut? I send it back to the company with a list of the problems, and I never utter their name on the Internet again. I sent two reels back last week. I'm not telling you what they were. Look for the positive, from those that put the gear to the test, and speak from honesty. Reiterated someone else's complaint doesn't really add anythibg, and only hurts your cred. Just my opinion.
Grantman83 reply :
Well I did say that I own a spinning shakeup head version and it runs soft compared to others I've owned.
So in my opinion, they run soft on the spinning side.
No different than the opposite problem like Abu Garcia rods. Those rods generally run stiffer and heavier than others. Does that mean people don't catch fish with them? Of course not But the power and action should be taken into account so the buyer isn't surprised.
J Francho reply :
This thread is about the TCS-C-691MH casting rod.
Montanaro reply :
On 5/21/2015 at 4:37 AM, Grantman83 said:No different than the opposite problem like Abu Garcia rods. Those rods generally run stiffer and heavier than others. Does that mean people don't catch fish with them? Of course not But the power and action should be taken into account so the buyer isn't surprised.
Problem? The rods actions are clearly defined on Tw and on okuma Web page and are accurate. If you buy the all purpose caster with modfast action you should realize it's not going to be fast or xfast. No "surprise" about it. Heck, Okuma even list rod weight which is largely unheard of.
These are good rods that have proven themselves to me and fit my fishing style. Guys who prefer fast or xfast actions for their jerk/topwater/spinnerbaits may want to look elsewhere though and that's perfectly fine.
Grantman83 reply :
Problem was the wrong word. My fault, I meant more along the lines of tendency...in no way are these negative comments. I love my shakey head rod and all reviews I have read are positive
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