Leader Knot To Braid 2024

fishballer06 reply :

I've recently been starting to mess around with flourocarbon line. I've tried it as my main line on my one baitcaster, but I don't like how it handles nearly as much as I like my braided line. However, I do seem to be getting more bites in clearer water when using the flourocarbon. So like many others, I've decided it's probably best to use my braid as a main line, and then use the flouro as a leader.

So last night I decided to practice tying my fluoro leaders to my braid on all of my setups. I used a Surgeon's knot to tie all of my leaders on. After tying my leaders on, I just don't trust that this knot is going to hold up once I get a fish on. I know I have the knots tied correctly, but they just don't seem like they will hold up with the weight of a thrashing fish on the end of the line. Am I over worrying? Or is there something else I should try for better results?

For reference, I am using Invis-X 10lb Fluoro and tying onto Suffix 832 40 &50lb.

Thanks in advance guys!

BrianinMD reply :

Try the alberto know, good strong knot which is very small when complete.

I would suggest also trying Abrazx for the leader, it has less stretch and is more abrasion resistant then Invizx.

Alonerankin2 reply :

Well I am like you, right now I am trying braid again on one rig+ Floro... I have been tying with San Diego.. And going to try a Blood knot.... I am prepping for the Fall.... I am confident if I tye the knots properly.... Based on the many recommendations, they Will hold, I hope anyway.

doyle8218 reply :

The Surgeon's knot is a very reliable knot that is highly under rated. I used it for years with zero problems. I also use a uni to uni.

ww2farmer reply :

Alberto knot and be done with it. Simple, strong, and stupid easy to tie.

Catch and Grease reply :

I would try some 14lb line instead of 10 to give you that extra strength, that's what I use with 50lb braid normally, I used to use uni to uni but now I use the modified Albright for my bigger lines.

Still use uni to uni for small braid and flouro though!

Josh Smith reply :

Hello,

I use an Albright or, more recently, a Seagur. I must confess I don't know a couple of these other knots listed and will be looking them up.

The Seagur is very small and strong.

Josh

ColdSVT reply :

Albright or uni to uni

I prefer the albright...it held a lot of tarpon over the years so bass are no problem for it. Same for thw uni to uni

Frenchman83 reply :

Another vote for the Alberto

ABW reply :

Alberto for me too. If tied right, they won't break. Whenever I've had to break off, the leader breaks, and not the alberto knot.

STPC reply :

Uni-to-uni has worked well for me when using lighter braid, but I can't comment on its strength when used with larger diameter lines.

thehooligan reply :

I like the uni-uni for smaller diameter line, alberto for larger.

Alonerankin2 reply :

Looks like I am going to try the Alberto myself now.....

lmbfisherman reply :

On 7/30/2014 at 10:10 PM, ww2farmer said:
Alberto knot and be done with it. Simple, strong, and stupid easy to tie.

I guess I'm the opposite, I find the Uni to Uni knot easier than the Alberto Knot. I tried a few times and find it difficult for me.

To add I am however noticing that certain floro don't work as well with Uni to Uni. For instance Trilene 100% I seem to get more slippage and breaks at the knot, I never had a break at the knot with Seaguar Red Label. So now all I use is Red Label or AbrazX.

SoFlaBassAddict reply :

Albright or Modified Albright (Alberto).

I use it for freshwater as well as inshore and offshore saltwater. Never had one fail if it is tied properly. Fantastic, low profile line to line knot.

iceintheveins reply :

I use uni to uni with no problems on lines of all diameters.

Fisher-O-men reply :

Uni/uni is easier to tie but the braid will cut the leader. You must use a wrap-type knot that forms a chinese finger trap around the leader line. Improved albright and the alberto are almost the same. The Improved albright is easier to tie IMO because you use 10-13 wraps up the line and only 4-5 on the return. Of course wet before you cinch and you have a neat, very slim knot that will not cut your leader line.

I personally would stay with the 10 lb leader. Anything smaller will break easily on the hook set, and anything larger inhibits the action of the bait. The no-stretch braid puts a lot of pressure on the leader on the hook set.

Amarley reply :

Can't remember what it's called, but I take the leader, double it, put the braid through the loop just created, wrap it about 10 times around the doubled-over leader line, bring the braid back through the top loop of flouro and cinch down. Takes about 1/10 of the time of a blood knot and haven't had it break on me yet. I do this alot with pitching in clear water and with almost all of my swim jigs.

sofarfrome reply :

FWIW...I use a surgeon's knot from fly line to 20lb braid leader and another surgeon's knot from braided leader to flouro leader on my trout and salmon fishing rigs and they have never failed.

SirSnookalot reply :

On 7/31/2014 at 1:20 AM, SoFlaBassAddict said:

Albright or Modified Albright (Alberto).

I use it for freshwater as well as inshore and offshore saltwater. Never had one fail if it is tied properly. Fantastic, low profile line to line knot.

I agree..........I do it this way, just a slight variation.

shanksmare reply :

Sirsnook,

The knot Jose is tying appears to be a variation of tthe Bristol Knot not the Alberto Knot which is a variation of the Albright Knot. Bristol Knots have a reputation of being the strongest braid to mono connecters for a simple easy to tie knot. ( I'm confused with all the not knots)

Here is how the IGFA site ties the Bristol Knot:

http://www.igfa.org/About/Bristol-Knot-Video-Tutorial.aspx

fishballer06 reply :

I appreciate the input everyone. As I figured, there is more than one way to skin a cat in this situation.

I tried out the Alberto knot last night and I seem to trust it much better than the Surgeon knot. Wish it wasn't as tricky to tie, but I'd rather have something I can trust, than something that is quick/easy.

SirSnookalot reply :

Thanks, didn't know it was a variation of the Bristol knot. I do not always double strand my braid, don't see the need, I just start the knot just like the Alberto. I do prefer going under the loop rather than thru it.

adam lancia reply :

Tie that knot about twenty more times and it's going to feel very easy and natural.

Here's a great tutorials on the Alberto:

I have the best success with it when it cinches down evenly and really grabs at the end where the leader is doubled over and forming a loop. I also have had zero problems with only 5 wraps, making it that much more compact.

LunkerFisher reply :

Alberto here too: 7 wraps up and 7 wraps down. A tip of mine, swap out your leaders after each heavy session, and you'll get pretty good at tying that knot relatively quickly.

AMAC reply :

Alberto, or Albright. Make sure you do 8 wraps either way and you will never have problems with slippage.

cjam93 reply :

the J knot is great and one of the easiest knots to tie that I have found.

Capt.Bob reply :

For 20 years my go to line to line knot has been the improved blood knot, makes a tapered end on each end of the knot and goes thru the guides both ways without resistance, Every reel I own has braid for mainline and the only thing that gets tied to it is a leader, either mono or fluoro, I have no doubts they work with all lines regardless of material or diameter. There are many good knots that are proven for joining lines, learn one and you will gain confidence and it will become second nature to you.

Oregon Native reply :

Double uni for me.....has been good to me. Power Pro with Silver Thread or even light fireline with Silver Thread. Have no troubles and quick to tie. I do five wraps on the braid side and four on the fluro side.....awesome and easy.

Nick49 reply :

Alberto and Albright are probably better knots, but I found the uni to uni easy to learn and I have used it several years without a problem.

adam lancia reply :

So I finally had the opportunity to test out my Alberto leader knot, not on a fish though. I got snagged, DOH! Anyhow, 15# Super 8 Slick tied to Trilene 100% 15# Flourocarbon. It was a tighten the drag and hope the rod doesn't break ordeal. I was casting a wacky rigged worm. The leader knot held up great while the Palomar on the hook gave way. That was a 5 wrap Alberto too, tiny knot for how strong it is. I thought a little anecdotal "evidence" would be a nice addition to the thread.

Slade House reply :

ALBERTO !!! never breaks !!

Jaynoob reply :

The ones i use are the reverse albright and uni to uni. Recently i started using a new knot because of rods with micro guides and getting the leader through them, its called the sebile knot. All have worked great for me with great results.

BassinLou reply :

Alberto knot, hands down. Uni to uni will do fine also. Just make sure you put on plenty of spit through the process. Cinch down tight and you are good to go.

SirSnookalot reply :

Casted into a tree this morning and hung up my lure. 10# braid with a 10# leader using an alberto and it broke off at the knot. Line came back with a smooth end not jagged indicating the knot broke not the line. Wasn't in the least bit surprised, there is always a limit to any line and knot.

Jolly Green reply :

On 8/11/2014 at 1:15 PM, adam lancia said:
So I finally had the opportunity to test out my Alberto leader knot, not on a fish though. I got snagged, DOH! Anyhow, 15# Super 8 Slick tied to Trilene 100% 15# Flourocarbon. It was a tighten the drag and hope the rod doesn't break ordeal. I was casting a wacky rigged worm. The leader knot held up great while the Palomar on the hook gave way. That was a 5 wrap Alberto too, tiny knot for how strong it is. I thought a little anecdotal "evidence" would be a nice addition to the thread.

When your rod does break, keep the grip section. When you hang up with your new rod, you can let out some slack and wrap it around your old grip a few times and pull free with that instead of busting your new rod. Or you could just keep something similar handy now and save yourself a busted rod.

Kabar reply :

On 8/9/2014 at 12:59 PM, cjam93 said:
the J knot is great and one of the easiest knots to tie that I have found.

This

adam lancia reply :

On 8/12/2014 at 7:33 AM, Jolly Green said:
When your rod does break, keep the grip section. When you hang up with your new rod, you can let out some slack and wrap it around your old grip a few times and pull free with that instead of busting your new rod. Or you could just keep something similar handy now and save yourself a busted rod.

That's exactly how I did it, I used the handle from my long needle nose pliers to wrap the line around and pull it free. It definitely would have resulted in a broken rod had I tried to use the rod instead.

J Francho reply :

I use an Alberto. No knot will be very strong if it's poorly tied. Practice, and test all your knots.

SirSnookalot reply :

You won't ever break a rod if you take the right precautions. Take all the tension off the rod by opening your bail or putting the reel into free spool, then wrap the line around a stick or around your shoulder and walk backwards. Another method is wrap the line around the reel a couple of times, keep the rod perfectly straight and move the boat slowly with the engine, that's how we do it off a reef in 80 fow.

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