I have an older 6' Clarus UL/MF that needs a reel. I haven't bought a spinning reel in years and am looking at a Stradic 1000FJ. Is this the right size reel or do I need something smaller?
I have a Fuego 1000A on the same rod, works beautifully. I imagine a Stradic would be just as good.
I use 1000 for trout. You're good
A 1000 is a nice match on a 6' rod.
Will be fine!
1000 will be just fine
You'll be fine. I use a 500 size for UL purposes. Actually use Stradic FI 1000 for my bass fishing. Love the smaller size, never a problem with the biggies.
Perfect, I ilke this size because any smaller I start fighting line management with the super light fine lines used. This size also balances my UL 5' and 6' Avids excellent also, plus this is the smallest Stradic available,,,,and I don't know how to beat the Stradic for UL spinning??
The other problem I have for my size hand the less expensive 750 size reels (as the Stradic and Sustain 1000 size is the smallest they offer) and smaller hit my knuckles on the hand I hold the rod with as the bail revolves,,, JME
1000 is perfect. 500 Sedona/Sahara/Symetre are nice as well but line management can get a little difficult depending on which one your using...
On 6/25/2014 at 10:41 PM, Capt.Bob said:Perfect, I ilke this size because any smaller I start fighting line management with the super light fine lines used. This size also balances my UL 5' and 6' Avids excellent also, plus this is the smallest Stradic available,,,,and I don't know how to beat the Stradic for UL spinning??
The other problem I have for my size hand the less expensive 750 size reels (as the Stradic and Sustain 1000 size is the smallest they offer) and smaller hit my knuckles on the hand I hold the rod with as the bail revolves,,, JME
Capt Bob, not only do you have good taste in your fishing gear, your hat says that you have great taste in Archery gear too!
On 6/26/2014 at 1:29 AM, John G said:Capt Bob, not only do you have good taste in your fishing gear, your hat says that you have great taste in Archery gear too!
You're talking about taste without mentioning those perch? That's some fine dining right there!
Sounds like the perfect size. I have a 6' light and a 6' med light St. Croix avid. both have 1000 Stradics. I love these set ups. They are just fun to fish. I will also use 2500 on the ML as well when I want to through something a bit heavier.
1000 series will do you just fine!!!
On 6/26/2014 at 8:42 AM, Jeff H said:You're talking about taste without mentioning those perch? That's some fine dining right there!
I have tried many times but I just don't like to eat fish. I will say that the only freshwater fish that I have tried is fried Catfish. I like to catch the but not eat them.
What kind of line are y'all using on your 1000's? I am thinking 4# or 6# Sunline Super Natural Mono when I get mine.
I have 4# Super Natural on mine. It's plenty, with proper drag.
On 6/26/2014 at 4:33 PM, John G said:What kind of line are y'all using on your 1000's? I am thinking 4# or 6# Sunline Super Natural Mono when I get mine.
6# nanofil,10# pps8s
On 6/26/2014 at 4:33 PM, John G said:What kind of line are y'all using on your 1000's? I am thinking 4# or 6# Sunline Super Natural Mono when I get mine.
2# yo-zuri hybrid ultra soft for panfish.
10# nanofil for drop shot.
I use 2500s for shakey heads and other spinning finesse type presentations that involve casting.
On 6/26/2014 at 4:31 PM, John G said:I have tried many times but I just don't like to eat fish. I will say that the only freshwater fish that I have tried is fried Catfish. I like to catch the but not eat them.
I didn't think anyone ate catfish, that would be enough to turn most off of eating fish, I would bet if you ever tried Walleye or Yellow Perch you would never say that again, fried, grilled, baked and broiled Walleye is probably the most versatile fish to cook on the planet, and Perch is great fried but I have a recipe for fish soup that will blow your socks off, great when out on the hard water in the winter fishing for Gill's, my 3rd favorite food source for eater fish!!
On 6/26/2014 at 8:42 AM, Jeff H said:You're talking about taste without mentioning those perch? That's some fine dining right there!
You are spot on there Jeff H, I have a freezer full of Walleyes and my main fish for the table, but Yellow Perch have always been the finest eating fish by a long way's in book!
On 6/26/2014 at 4:33 PM, John G said:What kind of line are y'all using on your 1000's? I am thinking 4# or 6# Sunline Super Natural Mono when I get mine.
I Like 10# 832 Sufix, I find lighter braid gets hard to deal with in a little wind, 2-6 lbs Fluorocarbon and Mono leaders
On 6/27/2014 at 6:28 AM, Capt.Bob said:I didn't think anyone ate catfish, that would be enough to turn most off of eating fish, I would bet if you ever tried Walleye or Yellow Perch you would never say that again, fried, grilled, baked and broiled Walleye is probably the most versatile fish to cook on the planet, and Perch is great fried but I have a recipe for fish soup that will blow your socks off, great when out on the hard water in the winter fishing for Gill's, my 3rd favorite food source for eater fish!!
You are spot on there Jeff H, I have a freezer full of Walleyes and my main fish for the table, but Yellow Perch have always been the finest eating fish by a long way's in book!
I Like 10# 832 Sufix, I find lighter braid gets hard to deal with in a little wind, 2-6 lbs Fluorocarbon and Mono leaders
Cooked properly, catfish is amongst the best fish in freshwater; especially flathead catfish. The better water quality you catch them out of, the better the flavor. They can all be cooked to where they taste great though. I would gladly take a catfish over a walleye. Only fish I would say I prefer over it would be a crappie.
On 6/27/2014 at 6:28 AM, Capt.Bob said:I didn't think anyone ate catfish, that would be enough to turn most off of eating fish, I would bet if you ever tried Walleye or Yellow Perch you would never say that again, fried, grilled, baked and broiled Walleye is probably the most versatile fish to cook on the planet, and Perch is great fried but I have a recipe for fish soup that will blow your socks off, great when out on the hard water in the winter fishing for Gill's, my 3rd favorite food source for eater fish!!
You are spot on there Jeff H, I have a freezer full of Walleyes and my main fish for the table, but Yellow Perch have always been the finest eating fish by a long way's in book!
I Like 10# 832 Sufix, I find lighter braid gets hard to deal with in a little wind, 2-6 lbs Fluorocarbon and Mono leaders
i will take deep friend catfish nuggets over walleye and perch 11 times out of 10 and i love fried walleye.
I cannot handle Mississippi river catfish. Just too greasy and oily, plus the taste of shad... yuck! Farm raised catfish, and catfish out of the inland lakes are great as long as there is no shad forage.
2013 I cleaned a couple Miss river catfish I caught in the early spring for a friend, he said in the cold water that they would be good. Okay... I carefully cut them, avoiding the gut cavity as I knew what was in there.. Got all the fillets off and put them in a bowl of water. He said "man those look great". I said, yes they do... but now wait 5 minutes. We went inside and when we came back out the bowl was covered in oil. He couldn't believe it. So, I cut open the gut cavity and showed him what was inside. A stomach and intestines packed with rotting winter kill shad (a month or two old rotted dead fish). The smell was just unbearable, and the back yard stunk for a week. He did not eat those fish.
I catch giant cats outta the Ohio River from louisville to Leavenworth In, I would never, ever eat one, not ever! Nor would I eat anything else caught out of the Ohio @ Louisville
My wife says that Walleye are the best freshwater fish that she has ate. She grew up in the Buffalo area of New York and she and our son try to go up there every year for a vacation and they usually have a Walleye fish fry when they are. I would like to try it if I ever get a chance to get away from work.On 6/27/2014 at 6:28 AM, Capt.Bob said:I didn't think anyone ate catfish, that would be enough to turn most off of eating fish, I would bet if you ever tried Walleye or Yellow Perch you would never say that again, fried, grilled, baked and broiled Walleye is probably the most versatile fish to cook on the planet, and Perch is great fried but I have a recipe for fish soup that will blow your socks off,
On 6/27/2014 at 6:34 AM, Tywithay said:Cooked properly, catfish is amongst the best fish in freshwater; especially flathead catfish. The better water quality you catch them out of, the better the flavor. They can all be cooked to where they taste great though. I would gladly take a catfish over a walleye. Only fish I would say I prefer over it would be a crappie.
On 6/27/2014 at 9:26 AM, iabass8 said:i will take deep friend catfish nuggets over walleye and perch 11 times out of 10 and i love fried walleye.
I don't doubt that you guy's like your Catfish, but I think your in a minority??? When Catfish sell's for the same price as Carp (Buffalo), and is cheaper than White Bass and White Perch, you have to believe most prefer Walleye and Yellow Perch when it's selling @ 5X the price of Catfish. Usually when markets are that far apart it's a good indication that most are wanting the Walleye and Perch. But know guy's that like White Suckers and even Sheaphead. This place is one of the best Fish Markets around for freshness, and price. http://www.portclintonfish.com/index.cfm?i=12354
I will definitely stick with the Walleye and Yellow Perch!! At $12.95 a pound for fillets, I gotta catch'em or I'd maybe be changing my diet also,,,,, I'd have to eat nothing but venison, cause I ain't eat'n Catfish, but my grandkids sure love catch'n them!!
My dad was in the fish business for 30 years in Detroit, I worked in the back as kid cleaning fish and cooking shrimp. The best selling fish is generally based on the clientele of the particular market, ours was walleye which was referred to as pickerel coming out of Canada. If I remember it correctly most was caught out of Lake Erie. Our #2 popular fish was Lake Superior whitefish. Both the pickerel and whitefish are excellent tasting fish, sorry to say not available in Florida. As delicious as perch are, it was not a big seller with us. We had no market for catfish, but stores with different demographics did sell it, personally I don't much care for it. The worst tasting fish I ever had was finnan haddie, I still have that fowl taste in my mouth from 60 years ago. My favorite is smoked sable.
Eat what you like, it's your taste buds.
Would you guys rather have a Stradic 1000FJ or a Shimano JDM Biomaster 1000?
I prefer the higher speed on this small a reel with the Stradic, the Biomaster is Slower, plus the warranty on the Biomaster is not recognized by Shimano America, the Stradic is, if it was ever needed??
On 6/25/2014 at 8:41 PM, iabass8 said:I use 1000 for trout. You're good
X2 great for UL
On 7/5/2014 at 5:22 PM, John G said:Would you guys rather have a Stradic 1000FJ or a Shimano JDM Biomaster 1000?
On an UL for panfish? Neither really. You don't need anything higher than a sedona. Bass is a totally different story, but not for panfish.
I don't want to hijack the thread, but I don't want to make another 1000 size Shimano reel thread either. Seeing that the answer has been answered by many and the thread has seemed to change course. So if the OP doesn't mind I'm going to ask a question.
Would a 1000 size stradic be ok for drop shotting for 3-4 pound bass? I think I'm going to use 20lb braid with a 15lb flouro leader. Would the power/torque be sufficient vs a 2500 fishing for these bass?
I will delete per OP's request. Thanks.
On 7/6/2014 at 2:07 AM, bass1980 said:I don't want to hijack the thread, but I don't want to make another 1000 size Shimano reel thread either. Seeing that the answer has been answered by many and the thread has seemed to change course. So if the OP doesn't mind I'm going to ask a question.
Would a 1000 size stradic be ok for drop shotting for 3-4 pound bass? I think I'm going to use 20lb braid with a 15lb flouro leader. Would the power/torque be sufficient vs a 2500 fishing for these bass?
I will delete per OP's request. Thanks.
Your post is fine with me. Knowledge is king as they say!
In my opinion, for bass fishing a 1000 size reel for a UL rod is too small, 2000-2500 size is what I like, bigger reel, bigger drag washers, bigger spool and wider loops in my line.
If the rod were to be used for panfishing a 1000 size reel is ok.
On 7/6/2014 at 2:07 AM, bass1980 said:I don't want to hijack the thread, but I don't want to make another 1000 size Shimano reel thread either. Seeing that the answer has been answered by many and the thread has seemed to change course. So if the OP doesn't mind I'm going to ask a question.
Would a 1000 size stradic be ok for drop shotting for 3-4 pound bass? I think I'm going to use 20lb braid with a 15lb flouro leader. Would the power/torque be sufficient vs a 2500 fishing for these bass?
I will delete per OP's request. Thanks.
I use 1000 size reels for everything. I can't comment on 20# braid (I can't imagine it being an issue) but I do use straight 6 and 7# fluoro for most applications. I don't pick up a spinning rod/reel and expect to over power a fish. I use the drag and rod to do all the work whether it be from a 5# largemouth, 5# smallmouth, 8# walleye, or a 30# carp, I'ver never had an issue getting a fish to the boat. Just takes time. For sheer casting distance, the 2500 will win due to the larger spool but again, i don't use a spinning rod to bomb lures a quarter mile. I can cast a DS,shaky head/flike shake and 3" senko further than I need to. The only drawback I've found /w 1000 vs 2500 is line capacity. The spools are smaller and obviously hold less line. I don't have any line management issues either. All my spinning reels are 1000 stradics FI/FJ.
On 7/6/2014 at 2:07 AM, bass1980 said:........................ Would a 1000 size stradic be ok for drop shotting for 3-4 pound bass? I think I'm going to use 20lb braid with a 15lb flouro leader. Would the power/torque be sufficient vs a 2500 fishing for these bass?
Don't see why not. I fish a number of different sizes of spinning reels...but the size I use the most is a "25" size Pflueger Supreme - basically equivalent to a 1000 size Shimano. Just as you were planning to do, I've used mostly 15lb and 20lb braid with 10 to 15lb leaders on this reel. As of today, that reel has brought in 2,595 fish - almost all bass. Power/torque? Not a problem for bass. As iabass8 just mentioned, you don't winch fish in with this type of tackle - but if that's what you want to use - it gets the job done.
Here's a 4 pounder that matches your target weight range:
Here's a 7.4lb LMB reeled in by that 25 size Pflueger last week:
Works for me...
7lbs.....that would be a catch of a lifetime here in my waters. Thanks OP and everyone for their recommendation. I think I'll still get the 2500 so I can double duty for smallies in the fall but if I find a 1000 for a good price then I won't hesitate. I just want a super light Stradic Ci4+ for drop shotting.
I use a 1000 series shimano for drop shot. If you plan to use mono/fluoro over 6# (.009") then I would up it to the 2500.
I went with the Shimano Rareneium CI4+ 1000S. I feel like a kid on Christmas Day. This is by far the nicest spinning reel that I have ever bought. I have a couple of questions though.
1. What are the washers for?
2. I assume that Shimano is telling me not to put line on the reel while the spool of line is laying flat on a table? I just watched bassresource's video on Youtube the other day on putting line on a spinning reel and he had the spool laying flat on the table.
On 9/23/2014 at 12:27 AM, John G said:I went with the Shimano Rareneium CI4+ 1000S. I feel like a kid on Christmas Day. This is by far the nicest spinning reel that I have ever bought. I have a couple of questions though.
1. What are the washers for?
2. I assume that Shimano is telling me not to put line on the reel while the spool of line is laying flat on a table?
Nice reel john !! That reel is on my list, might get a jdm shimano over the winter...
1. They are spacers you put under the spool. Ive had ci4's come perfect out of the box, also had a sustain that needed one or two to balance out the line placement on the spool.
2. You can spool your reel either way in the picture, just make sure the line is coming off the spool in the right direction if you decide to lay it on the floor.
Thank you!On 9/23/2014 at 3:08 AM, thehooligan said:Nice reel john !! That reel is on my list, might get a jdm shimano over the winter...
1. They are spacers you put under the spool. Ive had ci4's come perfect out of the box, also had a sustain that needed one or two to balance out the line placement on the spool.
2. You can spool your reel either way in the picture, just make sure the line is coming off the spool in the right direction if you decide to lay it on the floor.
Wow - you be stylin' now...
Shimano says for hard line like fluorocarbon/mono to have the line lay more towards the top of the spool and taper down. This minimizes backlash they say.
On 6/25/2014 at 10:41 PM, Capt.Bob said:Perfect, I ilke this size because any smaller I start fighting line management with the super light fine lines used. This size also balances my UL 5' and 6' Avids excellent also, plus this is the smallest Stradic available,,,,and I don't know how to beat the Stradic for UL spinning??
The other problem I have for my size hand the less expensive 750 size reels (as the Stradic and Sustain 1000 size is the smallest they offer) and smaller hit my knuckles on the hand I hold the rod with as the bail revolves,,, JME
No better eating! Nice catch.
Very nice choice, I'd say that would be very hard to beat as the PERFECT ULTRA LIGHT!!! Enjoy!!!
Bob, send some perch fillets up my way !!
On 9/24/2014 at 9:39 PM, thehooligan said:Bob, send some perch fillets up my way !!
Get some free time come on down!! We'll go get em,,,,,if they'll cooperate!