Can you flip/pitch with spinning tackle? 2024
Fishin' Fool reply :
I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch.
BrianinMD reply :
You can use spinning for any tactic/cast, not optimal on some but functional.
KDW96 reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 9:00 PM, BrianinMD said:You can use spinning for any tactic/cast, not optimal on some but functional.
You can use a zebco if u wanted, just practice practice
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 9:12 PM, KDW96 said:
You can use a zebco if u wanted, just practice practice
I did. I had to cut two backlashes out yesterday 
Dypsis reply :
Yes, I do it a lot with senkos and flick shakes.
scaleface reply :
Yes . I use to pitch standing timber with spinning gear . Just keep the bail open and the lure falls straight down the trunk .
Fun4Me reply :
I do it all the time with weightless baits from the bank.
bigfruits reply :
You can do both. I pitch small jigs and plastics all of the time with spinning gear. you can even feather the line with your finger to slow it down (hand not making the cast).
RichF reply :
You certainly can but casting gear gives you so much more control when pitching and flipping. Put some cheap line on your baitcasting reel and practice, practice, practice! I promise you'll be glad you did.
kbeeb374 reply :
I would say you certainly can, but you will likely be limited by weight of the lure and you will also lose potential accuracy. I am sure there is someone out there that can sniper pitch a 3/4 oz jig from 20 yards though so try some different stuff til you find what you like.
ww2farmer reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 10:59 PM, RichF said:You certainly can but casting gear gives you so much more control when pitching and flipping. Put some cheap line on your baitcasting reel and practice, practice, practice! I promise you'll be glad you did.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You can get by fine with spinning gear if it's stout enough, but sooner or later it's going to cost you a good fish. Freshwater spinning tackle that is comfortable to fish with for hours on end just doesn't have the power to winch a 5+ lb fish wadded up in 30 lbs of grass on a regular basis like a light weight, but powerful casting rig. You could always go with some in-shore, or salt water rated spinning gear if you want.............but fish with that for 8-10 hours straight and you'll wish you didn't.
SFL BassHunter reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 8:58 PM, Fishin' Fool said:I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch.
Hey Fishing Fool, not all reels are made the same. What I mean by that is, I was having issues as well.
I have found that my Scorpion DC7 isn't very good for flipping. I tried it for a while, but this reel excels in long casts. I think the digital brake system doesn't really have enough time to kick in when flipping, so I was ending up with all kinds of backlashes and line knots. I haven't had that issue since switching to a Tatula Type R. I keep my brake setting on around 8 out of 20 (Magforce Z) that seems to do the trick. So my point is some baitcasters are better for flipping than others.
What do you use?
fishwizzard reply :
I pitch cast with my spinning reels all the time, it is perfect to get small lures into holes in cover to to bounce them off of something to fall softly into the water. I cannot flip with one at all however, the handle seems to foul the line often enough to be annoying and my short rods are not great to flipping in any case.
There is an older guy at one of my local ponds who seems to always be flipping a small weighted stick worm into the shoreline pads using a spinning combo. He seems to consistently catch too, so he must be doing something right.
Mike L reply :
As everyone else said you certainly can. Use the tips they gave you.
Now...Flipping with a baitcaster doesn't require a disengaged reel..It's all line.The reel stays locked.
Pitching with a baitcaster is all thumb. It'll take a while, just keep practicing you'll get it.
If you have a specific question just ask
Mike
TheRodFather reply :
Sometimes I will sit in my chair or couch and tie on a 1/2 oz jig and pitch across the room while watching TV to get the feel for the reel and my thumb and the timing of when it's going to hit the "water".
What can I say, it's cold here.
RichF reply :
On 1/10/2017 at 1:48 AM, TheRodFather said:Sometimes I will sit in my chair or couch and tie on a 1/2 oz jig and pitch across the room while watching TV to get the feel for the reel and my thumb and the timing of when it's going to hit the "water".
What can I say, it's cold here.
This is how I got good at it! Eventually added bowls and cups into the mix as targets.
rawjuice reply :
Yes you totally could!
rippin-lips reply :
Pitch = tossing a bait to specific targets or areas. Usually done with a flick of the wrist. Like trying to pitch a paper ball into the trash can.
It's already been said a few times. Yes, it can be done but your typical spinning gear is aimed more towards lighter baits so it's not optimal. If you go with a heavier power spinning rod then sure. Practice makes permanent so just keep at it with your casting rod and next thing you know it'll be a piece of cake.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 1/10/2017 at 12:17 AM, SFL BassHunter said:Hey Fishing Fool, not all reels are made the same. What I mean by that is, I was having issues as well.
I have found that my Scorpion DC7 isn't very good for flipping. I tried it for a while, but this reel excels in long casts. I think the digital brake system doesn't really have enough time to kick in when flipping, so I was ending up with all kinds of backlashes and line knots. I haven't had that issue since switching to a Tatula Type R. I keep my brake setting on around 8 out of 20 (Magforce Z) that seems to do the trick. So my point is some baitcasters are better for flipping than others.
What do you use?
Tatty Ct. Part of the problem could be I was flipping in the basement with 8 foot ceilings. We have no high ceilings in my house and it was below zero this weekend here. I made it one attempt outside lol.
SFL BassHunter reply :
On 1/10/2017 at 3:18 AM, Fishin' Fool said:
Tatty Ct. Part of the problem could be I was flipping in the basement with 8 foot ceilings. We have no high ceilings in my house and it was below zero this weekend here. I made it one attempt outside lol.
Hmm, the Tatula does a good job of keeping my line from overrunning or backlashing.
BTW I got them backwards lol. Flipping might be easier on the spinning outfit. Pitching is what I do where I thumb the line to prevent a backlash. I always get the two terms mixed up.
I think you're right, the ceiling might be an issue.
Onvacation reply :
Tape is your friend when you are learning. Pull off some line that will be a bit more then the max you will be pitching then put tape on the reel. Now, when you practice, you will have very little line to backlash.
"hamma" reply :
On 1/10/2017 at 1:08 AM, Mike L said:As everyone else said you certainly can. Use the tips they gave you.
Now...Flipping with a baitcaster doesn't require a disengaged reel..It's all line.The reel stays locked.
Pitching with a baitcaster is all thumb. It'll take a while, just keep practicing you'll get it.
If you have a specific question just ask
Mike
This ^^^^^^^ I was reading posts and was wondering when someone was gunna say it
CTBassin860 reply :
On 1/10/2017 at 12:17 AM, SFL BassHunter said:Hey Fishing Fool, not all reels are made the same. What I mean by that is, I was having issues as well.
I have found that my Scorpion DC7 isn't very good for flipping. I tried it for a while, but this reel excels in long casts. I think the digital brake system doesn't really have enough time to kick in when flipping, so I was ending up with all kinds of backlashes and line knots. I haven't had that issue since switching to a Tatula Type R. I keep my brake setting on around 8 out of 20 (Magforce Z) that seems to do the trick. So my point is some baitcasters are better for flipping than others.
What do you use?
The question is Spinning gear not casting
Just bustin your chops btw.
Or am I?
fishwizzard reply :
Not having to worry about a backlash/overrun is to me the best part of pitching with spinning combo. Hell, that is my favorite thing about using on in general. I am willing to make a far more challenging pitch/cast with a spinning combo and like knowing that if I misjudge things and my lure hits a log I was trying to pitch under I might just loose my lure, not my lure, my line, and the time it takes to deal with the backlash.
The downside is that it seems much slower to hand close the bail and get the slack picked up to be ready for a hook set then just being able to crank the handle and set the hook.
Caliyak reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 8:58 PM, Fishin' Fool said:I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch.
Because I fish from a kayak, flipping with spinning gear, to me, is easier. I am actually closer to the desired location compared to a boat so I can flip very short distances. My only issue is the line getting tangled with the reel handle, other than that, no problems. Plus the reel handle is on the left and you can reel without switching hands. Dude, keep practicing and you will get it.
bigfruits reply :
if you fish the senko, ika and other weightless plastics on spinning gear you have to pitch at some point. i find it more comfortable and better balanced if all of my fingers are above the reel seat.
its easy to pitch with spinning but you want to learn on your baitcaster and you will be happy you did. practice in the yard so you dont waste your time on the water.
IndianaFinesse reply :
You can do anything a baitcaster can with spinning gear. Casting gear is better for some things, spinning is better for others, and for some it's just personal preference. Pitching is easier done on casting gear, simply because they are more powerful and the line doesn't get tangled around the reel like it does when flipping or pitching with spinning gear.
Drew03cmc reply :
I often do, it's one skill I've never developed with casting gear. I can make short sidearm casts with casting gear, but with spinning gear, I can go from skipping to pitching to making a long cast down the bank without swapping rods.
d-camarena reply :
I did it that way for years, and will do it again if i had to. Spinning gear can do anything casting can. Just a matter of preference.
smalljaw67 reply :
As Mike L. mentioned, you FLIP with a reel that is already engaged so you can't backlash when flipping. What you are doing is PITCHING, this is where you can get backlashes. It can be done with a spinning reel if in lighter cover with lighter baits but anything in a 3/8oz and up or in heavy cover and it has to be casting.
Yudo1 reply :
Spend the winter practicing your pitches. When I got my first baitcaster, I got a casting plug and practiced pitching to past the time over the long winter and by spring I was a pitching machine.
bigfruits reply :
although i prefer pitching heavier baits with a baitcaster, i am not sure why people say you cannot pitch heavier weights on spinning. all depends on the rod. not all spinning rods are medium light.
faygo1979 reply :
Whatever works best for you, One of the guys I fish with only uses spinning and I do not see any disadvantages with what he is doing. He uses a 3000 size reel for frogs and punching with out issues.
Lots of groups fish for a lot larger fish than bass with spinning tackle and are not limited to light lines and light lures.
fishwizzard reply :
I was firmly in the "I don't need a baitcaster" camp for a long time. I had bought a BB1 and while it is a great reel, I was struggling with it. On a whim I bought a PX68, which is a much smaller reel. That was when the light bulb went on. The smaller reel was so so much easier for me to cast with and I quickly gained proficiency and confidence. Even going back to the BB1, while it is still too big, I can take what I learned with a smaller reel and apply it to the larger one.
While I am still far more accurate with my spinning combos, I have grown to really enjoy baitcasters as well and am getting more and more of them to compliment my spinners.
soflabasser reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 8:58 PM, Fishin' Fool said:I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch.
Yes you can do flipping and pitching with spinning gear,I do it all the time and never had a problem using spinning gear for these applications.In fact,I prefer using spinning gear for most of my bass fishing, since spinning gear is very useful for a wide variety of bass fishing techniques.
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 1/11/2017 at 1:38 PM, soflabasser said:
Yes you can do flipping and pitching with spinning gear,I do it all the time and never had a problem using spinning gear for these applications.In fact,I prefer using spinning gear for most of my bass fishing, since spinning gear is very useful for a wide variety of bass fishing techniques.
Are you beefing your rods up to MH or H power rods? The heaviest spinning rod I own is a M.
soflabasser reply :
On 1/11/2017 at 9:03 PM, Fishin' Fool said:
Are you beefing your rods up to MH or H power rods? The heaviest spinning rod I own is a M.
Yes most of my bass fishing rods are Medium Heavy or Heavy action rods and these rods have helped me land many large bass out of very heavy aquatic vegetation,which we have lots of in South Florida. As for reels,I mostly use size 3000-4000 spinning reels,since I am able to fish a wider variety of lures with these reels compared to a size 1000-2000 spinning reel.I use these exact setups for inshore saltwater fishing as well (mostly snook,tarpon,jacks,snappers,etc).
Mike L reply :
On 1/11/2017 at 9:56 PM, soflabasser said:Yes most of my bass fishing rods are Medium Heavy or Heavy action rods and these rods have helped me land many large bass out of very heavy aquatic vegetation,which we have lots of in South Florida. As for reels,I mostly use size 3000-4000 spinning reels,since I am able to fish a wider variety of lures with these reels compared to a size 1000-2000 spinning reel.I use these exact setups for inshore saltwater fishing as well (mostly snook,tarpon,jacks,snappers,etc).
Ditto
Mike
bagofdonuts reply :
You can. In fact there is one advantage a spinning reel has and that is the bait free falls on slack line, while it takes effort not to get a pendulum affect using a bc. Use this advantage by pitching to vertical cover like standing timber.
Maggiesmaster reply :
The best way to 'pitch' with a spinning rig is to use the 'slingshot' technique. Let enough line out to reach about the last guide on your rod. Then, open the bail and, hold the line with your index finger, pull the (single hook!) lure back with your other hand. Aim the rod at the target and 'shoot' the lure; releasing the lure and the line at the same time. The first times you'll fail miserably, but you'll quickly get the hang of it. This method is the best I've found for placing lures under docks, trees, etc.
Darren. reply :
Absolutely! I do it all the time. A couple of the posts
above do mention heavier spinning gear for the nasty
slop stuff. But yeah, some of the more powerful spinning
gear gets heavy...unless you use something like a
Stradic CI4+ in a 3000-4000 size.
I use 1000 size reels, ML and M power rods for all my
spinning needs. A 1000 is too light for some of the
heavier weighted techniques, but I don't do those.
Casting is great for this, as mentioned. And the tape
trick is one of the best tips to ease the pain of backlashes
while you learn thumb control.
J Francho reply :
I can make both casts with any rod and reel. They're just a type of cast. In fact, when drop shotting, I often pitch the rig since it's easier to make a short cast with the long terminal rig.
Further North reply :
On 1/9/2017 at 8:58 PM, Fishin' Fool said:I stink at flipping with my casting gear, it's constant backlashes. Maybe I don't have my reel settings optimized. Just curious are there many of you out there using your spinning gear for that purpose? I have always been much more accurate casting with spinning gear however I don't know if it's as easy to flip/pitch.
Short answer: Yes. You'll give up a little accuracy, but you'll gain distance...kind of a push.
I'd spend the time to learn how to do it with a baitcaster...you'll be a better fisherman for the effort.
iceintheveins reply :
Yeah you can. But it's much better with casting gear. It didn't take me that long to learn with a baitcaster, so I'm sure you can too. The main thing with pitching is a smooth motion and a pendulum type swing.
Fishes in trees reply :
You can pitch with any gear you want. Back in the day there was a time when I stunk at pitching, couldn't get it right. I now know that I didn't have the right tool for the job - however I could get by with spinning gear on a MH rod. Then I got the bright idea of getting a Zebco under spin. A spin cast reel that mounts underneath the rod, like a spinning reel. That is a great reel. It will handle 17 or 20 lb mono. I fished it for a couple of years until a regional pro at a BFL tournament (Eddie May, no clue where he is or where he is fishing right now) took pity on me and showed me how to pitch.
Just for the record, there isn't any reason you can't put a Zebco 33 on a pitching stick and go to town. You can pitch with any rig you want to. If you aren't real good with a bait caster and you're trying to pitch in close quarters, a decent spin cast reel like a mid-range Zebco isn't a bad way to go. It will tack back lashes out of the equation.
Fishin' Fool reply :
Thank you all for the encouragement. I decided to get to work and practice as the weather allowed in Michigan. I was pretty wild at first and wanted to give up. Then I started getting more accurate. First I started flipping my kids sand buckets and Halloween candy bucket. Then the targets got smaller and smaller as I got better. Today I culminated with my kids drinking cups (about 3" opening) I got in there 4 times in less than an hour. I even tried a red Solo cup shot glass lol. Not quite that good yet. Anyway thanks to those that said stick it out its a skill you need.
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