Mid-high end finesse/drop shot rod 2024
Matt_3479 reply :
I’m looking at adding a mid-high end finesse/dropshot spinning rod for next season but wanted to get all the information early. Most likely will throw a ci4+ on it as I love the one I currently have but confused on the rod. I don’t do a ton of finesse fishing but want to get more into it. I have a glx 852c that I’m using for wacky rig senko’s, shakey head, finesse jigs, but looking for a good spinning rod for dropshot, Ned rig maybe small flukes? Any suggestions?
new2BC4bass reply :
Maybe this? http://www.tackletour.com/reviewabuvillain2spin.html
A-Jay reply :
I'm liking the Daiwa Tatula Elite AGS Spinning Rods.
Specifically the Brent Ehrler Drop Shot.
Nice mix of Light & sensitive, with a good tip & back bone.
A-Jay
Bluebasser86 reply :
What's your price range? I use a St. Croix LTB 6' 10" ML/XF for those baits and it's an excellent rod, but maybe more than you're looking to spend.
GReb reply :
On 12/18/2018 at 12:58 PM, Bluebasser86 said:What's your price range? I use a St. Croix LTB 6' 10" ML/XF for those baits and it's an excellent rod, but maybe more than you're looking to spend.
I have the same rod in the Mojo and have been really liking it. I’m sure the Avid version is also nice
WRB reply :
Dobyns Sierra SA702SF is on sale at TW, good rod at a great price.
Tom
Sam reply :
You can add to your G. Loomis collection during the sales from American Legacy with their drop shot rods.
On 12/18/2018 at 1:17 PM, WRB said:Dobyns Sierra SA702SF is on sale at TW, good rod at a great price.
Tom
What Tom suggests, too. You can't go wrong with a Dobyns. Look for sales in your area or on the Internet.
Remember, there are "rod specific" rods out there designed for drop shot and other specific techniques. Check them out.
Matt_3479 reply :
On 12/18/2018 at 12:58 PM, Bluebasser86 said:What's your price range? I use a St. Croix LTB 6' 10" ML/XF for those baits and it's an excellent rod, but maybe more than you're looking to spend.
Well I have a few months so I’m trying not to let price limit me. I started purchasing a few higher end rods later in the season (2 or 3 imx pro’s, 2 glx’s) and there just more fun to fish lol.
The ltb I found so tip heavy on certain models. I’ve always wanted to try one but every time I was in the market for a new rod they just turned me off a little. I’m leaning more towards a legend elite or maybe the x, or another imx, glx
On 12/18/2018 at 11:32 AM, A-Jay said:I'm liking the Daiwa Tatula Elite AGS Spinning Rods.
Specifically the Brent Ehrler Drop Shot.
Nice mix of Light & sensitive, with a good tip & back bone.
A-Jay
I’ll check them out, I’ve heard great things about the ags tatula Rods. I had a zillion rod up until mid last season that I liked a lot just didn’t have room in the arsenal for it
waymont reply :
The new Tatula Bass rod line is excellent too. I have a 6'6" Med. and a 6'10" Med. and both are killer light weight rods. I prefer the cork grips over the foam. Very similar to the Elites in feel but some of the technique specific in the Elite line are more specialized. There's the new Tatula Bass rods available on ebay for $98.00!
I got both of mine from the seller and they are perfect. My 2 cents.
fishwizzard reply :
In the glx price range, the Megabass Addermine gets rave reviews.
Troy85 reply :
I use a Okuma EVX 6'10" Med/Fast with a Daiwa Legalis LT. If i remember correctly ,the rod ran about $100 and the reel was about $70.
Fishingmickey reply :
On 12/18/2018 at 1:17 PM, WRB said:Dobyns Sierra SA702SF is on sale at TW, good rod at a great price.
Tom
I have one on the way along with a Diawa EM-MS JDM reel. Should be a sweet combo.
FM
Big-Bass reply :
On 12/19/2018 at 2:18 AM, Fishingmickey said:I have one on the way along with a Diawa EM-MS JDM reel. Should be a sweet combo.
FM
That should be really nice!
TBAG reply :
Not "high end" per say but I just bought a Dobyns 692sf from TW as it was too good of a deal to pass up. It will be paired with a Ci4+ and it's going to be my primary ned rig setup.It's probably replacing a Loomis GL2 802S I currently use for my Ned rigs. I don't know which rod I'll like more but the other will be relegated to a backup as I only carry one spinning setup in the yak.
I've never owned a Dobyns spinning rod so I'm pretty pumped to get it and put it to the test.
Here's a thread I started earlier this week.
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/211466-dobyns-sierra-spinning-vs-loomis-gl2/
Columbia Craw reply :
Dobyns DX702 HP worked fantastic for me this last season.
kschultz76 reply :
Kistler Helium H3 are all on a nice sale on their site right now, I’m a *** fan of my H3rods but I’ve not tried a spinning rod from them yet.
Those Tatula Elite AGS look so nice, I can’t get paste Eva grips myself, but I’ve considered them a few times.
St Croix recommendation is a good one for sure, the medium light powered finesse blanks I’ve owned and handled were not tip heavy like the medium and medium heavy blanks.
Fishingmickey reply :
On 12/19/2018 at 7:42 AM, Big-Bass said:That should be really nice!
It showed up yesterday and it is a really nice combo. Heck of a deal from TW. I'm very pleased! Spooled it up with some 6 lb Seaguar finesse and going to test drive it here in a couple of hours.
Big-Bass reply :
On 12/19/2018 at 10:37 PM, Fishingmickey said:It showed up yesterday and it is a really nice combo. Heck of a deal from TW. I'm very pleased! Spooled it up with some 6 lb Seaguar finesse and going to test drive it here in a couple of hours.
Can you post some pictures of the reel? How smooth is it? What other models does it compare to? Thanks!
TBAG reply :
On 12/19/2018 at 10:37 PM, Fishingmickey said:It showed up yesterday and it is a really nice combo. Heck of a deal from TW. I'm very pleased! Spooled it up with some 6 lb Seaguar finesse and going to test drive it here in a couple of hours.
How do you like the Seaguar finesse? Thinking about using it on my ned rig setup.
Matt_3479 reply :
On 12/19/2018 at 10:49 AM, kschultz76 said:Kistler Helium H3 are all on a nice sale on their site right now, I’m a *** fan of my H3rods but I’ve not tried a spinning rod from them yet.
Those Tatula Elite AGS look so nice, I can’t get paste Eva grips myself, but I’ve considered them a few times.
St Croix recommendation is a good one for sure, the medium light powered finesse blanks I’ve owned and handled were not tip heavy like the medium and medium heavy blanks.
Thank you! I totally forgot about kistler. I have a helium casting rod now and love it! Super light, sometimes feel a little underpowered but that thing has never let me down. Super sensitive I love it! But never tried or hear sbything about there spinning rods actually.
your right I do prefer cork for sure.
ill look more into the st. Croix as well as I’ve never fished there high end ones. Curious between the money of the legend elite or x, how does it stack up against say a glx? I know a lot is preference between the two brands and definately a loomis guy myself I’m just curious towards the higher end st. Croix. Have an avid x that I’m impressed with
kschultz76 reply :
On 12/20/2018 at 8:08 AM, Matt_3479 said:Thank you! I totally forgot about kistler. I have a helium casting rod now and love it! Super light, sometimes feel a little underpowered but that thing has never let me down. Super sensitive I love it! But never tried or hear sbything about there spinning rods actually.
your right I do prefer cork for sure.
ill look more into the st. Croix as well as I’ve never fished there high end ones. Curious between the money of the legend elite or x, how does it stack up against say a glx? I know a lot is preference between the two brands and definately a loomis guy myself I’m just curious towards the higher end st. Croix. Have an avid x that I’m impressed with
From my experience the Legend Elite and Legend Extremes are up their in sensitivity with the GLX. But frankly the blanks on my Helium 3s are also up there in terms of sensitivity. Of course it’s subjective to the user and ymmv. I love some St Croix rods, but I’ve found I prefer a bare unpainted blank over a painted blank.
TackleTour did a review on a Kistler Zbone spinning rod at one point might be worth looking up.
Someone mentioned the MB Addermine, if your spending GLX coin the Addermine is a killer stick, I love mine. But in my hands it’s a hair more powerful then a dropshot rod, it’s of an all purpose spinning rod or heavier dropshot rod. It’s s more powerful then a St Croix ML power.
Fishingmickey reply :
On 12/20/2018 at 1:10 AM, Big-Bass said:Can you post some pictures of the reel? How smooth is it? What other models does it compare to? Thanks!
TW takes better pictures then I do. Here is the link.
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_EM-MS_JDM_Spinning_Reel/descpage-EMG.html
All of my other spinning reels are Shimano. It compares very favorably so far. It is very smooth (as new reels should be). It feels well balanced when reeling. I haven't got a lot of stick time on it yet.
Regards,
FM
On 12/20/2018 at 2:23 AM, TBAG said:How do you like the Seaguar finesse? Thinking about using it on my ned rig setup.
Hi Tbag,
It spooled up fine and fished fine. I haven't had anything big enough to test it out yet. Like the Tatsu line it was wrapped perfectly on the spool out of the package.
FM
RFSims reply :
IMO, the St Croix MLXF blank is a great drop shot rod. Super tip to work the lure and good backbone to set the hook (I only fish drop shot Texas rigged). I have a first gen Mojo and an Avid, both great drop shot and ned rig rods.
JLBBass reply :
St Croix Avid X, 6'9" MLXF ????
I own 2, and LOVE them! Use them for small wacky worms, ned rigs, drop shot, and just about any light plastic application.
Boomstick reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 5:02 AM, PolarKraft195Pro said:St Croix Avid X, 6'9" MLXF ????
I own 2, and LOVE them! Use them for small wacky worms, ned rigs, drop shot, and just about any light plastic application.
I own the same rod! It's on the lighter side, so if you prefer a stiffer drop shot rod or regularly catch large fish on a drop shot, you might prefer something a little stiffer. For me, it's perfect however and if you miss a bite, you have something seriously wrong with the nerves in your hands!
WRB reply :
2 freinds of mine that I fished are both tournament anglers, Bob was a St Croix Legend fan, Fred was Loomis NRX fan, so I had opertunities to use these rods and they used mine to share performance evaluations.
My opinion was St Croix spinning rods are well made and not particularly well balanced, tended to be tip heavy and feedback OK but not outstandanding. Bob thought the same thing regarding NRX spinning rods saying they are too stiff with little feedback, Fred thought St Croix rods were too stiff and tip heavy. Both had Shimano Ci4 2500 reels.
My spinning rods are not high end like Bob and Fred, my casting rods are. My spinning reels are older Shimano Stratic 1000 and 2500 reels, the rods Major Craft about $120 price range and functional for my purposes. What surprised me is both Bob and Fred liked my rods as well as their own regarding Sensitivety and thought the balance was better.
My point is you have a lot of good choices and each angler has their own idea what works for them. Bob, before he passed away changed to Dobyns Champ rods and loved them. I fished with Bob a few times and agree Dobyns spinning rods as good as a spinning gets, I agreed and liked them a lot just don't need any new rods.
We all caught bass using each others tackle, differences are small nuances, the reel plays a bigger role with spinning outfits IMO. If I needed a spinning rod I would buy the Dobyns Sierra on sale at TW, basically a Champ at the price of a Fury.
Tom
Heartland reply :
I have debated for a while about making this post and finally decided that it might help someone. Over the years I have spent what amounts to a lot of money (to me) in pursuit of the perfect rod for this, and a fast enough reel for that. I have listened to the advise of Pro's, read reviews, had trusted friends ensure me that if I purchased this particular rod, reel, line, or lure that I would not regret it. Well guess what, they were all right, but not for the reason that I suspect you think. They were all right because each of the rods, were made by reputable companies, that use very good components and what was then the most current techniques to develop rods that transmit, rods that have great actions and reliable backbone. I enjoy each of these rods for a variety of different reasons, and to be honest some just have a sentimental value to me that probably far exceeds the actual praise I have heaped upon them over the years. I have come to the conclusion that I can and do use each and every one of these rods, for what ever I want to fish at the current moment (within reason) and they all work great. They work great because they are quality equipment, not because someone else said this one for dropshot and this one is for shakeyhead and so on and so on. Buy a rod that you like the way it feels in your hands, you like its appearance, balance, quality, one that when you pull it out of your rod locker and take the sock off of it you have no doubt about how it will perform. Those are the rods you will end up keeping for a long time if not forever.
Here is a list of some of mine that I really enjoy fishing with for a whole lot more than what is listed on the blank.
ST. Croix
ES610MLXF
TBS610MLXF
TBS610MXF
Loomis
DSR 822S
SJR 723
SMR 811S-SP
NRX 822S SYR
Fishing is a great hobby it can be so much fun, but sometimes we make it out to be something very technical and take a lot of what it is suppose to be for most of us average anglers out of it. FUN! Go fish and have fun.
Matt_3479 reply :
Thanks everyone! Some really great advice! I upgraded all of my baitcasters this year and wanted a nice spinning rod and reel! I am fishing a 2 piece avid x and love the rod but bought the 2 piece for getting into some of the ponds that are hard to get in and out of. I really wanted a nice 1 piece rod to leave on the boat as we have been using the boat a lot the last 2 seasons! I’m going out over the weekend to take a look at a few of these rods. Just wasn’t sure if I should be looking more into the medium, or medium light and if I should be looking more for a fast or extra fast? I’m leaning more towards another loomis but we will see, really do want to try the higher end st. Croixs to compare to my glx’s.
Matt_3479 reply :
Has anyone tried the Daiwa Steez XT 7’ medium fast action, stumbled across one on sale and don’t hear much about them? Just curious
anderb54 reply :
For GLX money, I can't recommend the Destroyer Addermine enough. It's a special rod.
Matt_3479 reply :
On 12/28/2018 at 4:17 AM, anderb54 said:For GLX money, I can't recommend the Destroyer Addermine enough. It's a special rod.
I’d love to get my hands on that rod. Around my neck of the woods it’s very very difficult to find Megabass rods. I’ve only seen one and it was the store owners personal that he happened to have with him. No store around me carries them as far as I know and when spending that kind of doe I’d really like to handle them first.
J Francho reply :
I have two each St. Croix AVS63MLXF and AVS63MXF, all saddled with either 2500 or 3000 series Stradic CI4. They're all spooled with 6# Tatsu. I upgraded the drags to dry Carbontex. They perform flawlessly.
LCG reply :
On 12/21/2018 at 5:02 AM, PolarKraft195Pro said:St Croix Avid X, 6'9" MLXF ????
I own 2, and LOVE them! Use them for small wacky worms, ned rigs, drop shot, and just about any light plastic application.
How does the ml-xf compare to their m-xf? I have the 6'8" m-xf and it awesome but interested in the ml-xf as well. Is the tip the typical drop shot light hinged tip or more solid, similar to the m-xf if that makes any sense?
J Francho reply :
The tapers are very similar. The M can handle heavier baits is the only difference.
JLBBass reply :
On 12/29/2018 at 12:40 AM, LCG said:How does the ml-xf compare to their m-xf? I have the 6'8" m-xf and it awesome but interested in the ml-xf as well. Is the tip the typical drop shot light hinged tip or more solid, similar to the m-xf if that makes any sense?
I have the 6’8” m-xf in the newer mojo model, and the tip on it is stiffer from the get-go than the mlxf on my Avid X’s. The 6’9” mlxf has that light tip, and goes into a more of a medium power than a ML power as it’s specs say.
ChrisD46 reply :
*There are nice ML Fast / Xtra Fast spinning rods that can double as drop shot rods - then there are drop shot specific spinning rods ... Don't compromise if you truly want a spinning rod ONLY for drop shot !
Matt_3479 reply :
On 12/29/2018 at 4:39 PM, ChrisD46 said:*There are nice ML Fast / Xtra Fast spinning rods that can double as drop shot rods - then there are drop shot specific spinning rods ... Don't compromise if you truly want a spinning rod ONLY for drop shot !
What’s the main difference?
fishindad reply :
On 12/29/2018 at 7:15 PM, Matt_3479 said:What’s the main difference?
If you've never dropshotted, the only way to feel the difference is to try dropshotting for yourself with both an "all-purpose" finesse rod (typically F) and a dropshot-specific rod (typically XF). For the techniques you mentioned in your original post, you really don't want to use a rod designed for dropshot as they are typically built only for that one technique. Get yourself a 7 foot ML or M fast action rod and you'll be fine.
Matt_3479 reply :
On 12/29/2018 at 11:25 PM, fishindad said:If you've never dropshotted, the only way to feel the difference is to try dropshotting for yourself with both an "all-purpose" finesse rod (typically F) and a dropshot-specific rod (typically XF). For the techniques you mentioned in your original post, you really don't want to use a rod designed for dropshot as they are typically built only for that one technique. Get yourself a 7 foot ML or M fast action rod and you'll be fine.
Haha just when I thought I had it narrowed down Lol. I don’t do a ton of finesse fishing but last year on the water a few times conditions got tough and after spending a day or two trying to find bass every other possible way I fish, I finally picked up a spinning rod and slowed things down and caught some of the biggest smallies I’ve ever caught and 2 beauty largie’s. That’s when I decided I need to get a good spinning rod to fill the niche.
I figured drop shot, Ned rig and maybe even finesse tubes would all be done on extra fast? The shakey head, flukes, senko’s I’ll be throwing on a different rod.
JoeyT reply :
I have tried several over the years and have to say the g loomis e6x drop shot rod is a great stick at med xf. I find the ML Xf just doesn't have the back bone I need for these big ontario Smallies. I was losing fish on the ML rods especial in deep water. Made the switch to the e6x and I just don't lose fish anymore. 2500 reel with 15# braid and a 8# flouro leader. Awesome rod and reasonably priced.
Matt_3479 reply :
Thanks everyone. Found the glx 822 at a good price and going to look st it tomorrow morning with expectations of purchasing the rod! Hopefully it will fish the Ned rig well too cause I’d love to double down on this rod for those two techniques
Matt_3479 reply :
Well here it is fella’s, glx 822s dsr, shimano ci4+ 2500 with 10lbs power pro to 8lbs Seaguar leader
Thank you everyone for your help! Can’t wait to try it out this spring! Now just have to figure 1 more rod to cover the remaining of the finesse unless my 852c will take care of it. Tubes, flukes, senko’s, Ned, Neko so forth
fishindad reply :
Awesome drop shot combo. Your 852 will be fine for the tubes, flukes, Senkos and finesse.
Matt_3479 reply :
On 12/31/2018 at 4:19 AM, fishindad said:Awesome drop shot combo. Your 852 will be fine for the tubes, flukes, Senkos and finesse.
Thank you!
Awesome! That’s what I was going start with and see how I make out and go from there.
anderb54 reply :
On 12/28/2018 at 10:44 PM, Matt_3479 said:I’d love to get my hands on that rod. Around my neck of the woods it’s very very difficult to find Megabass rods. I’ve only seen one and it was the store owners personal that he happened to have with him. No store around me carries them as far as I know and when spending that kind of doe I’d really like to handle them first.
Understandable... Tackle Warehouse allows you to try out rods for a refundable deposit. I understand that it's a hassle but that rod blew me away when I got it. If it weren't for the Oneten Special, it'd be my go to smallie rod for sure.
J Francho reply :
On 12/29/2018 at 7:15 PM, Matt_3479 said:What’s the main difference?
Marketing.
Congrats on the combo. My buddy has that same rod, and it fishes well.
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