I don't NEED another rod, but... 2024
ib_of_the_damned reply :
I'm looking to pick up an all around casting rod for the days I just want to take one rod with me. I have been looking at both the Powell Max 3D 723 and Dobyns Fury 733, my plan was to use it for traps, flukes/senkos, spinnerbaits, jigs, and paddletails (mainly 3.8" Fat Impacts weightless/chikubi rig). Which of these two rods would you guys recommend and also the reason for one over the other.
fishnkamp reply :
Both are terrific rods. I own rods from both companies and ironically Gary Dobyns helped design many of the Powell rods.
I own and LOVE LOVE LOVE my Powell Max 683CEF. It is one of the original series, not a MAX 3D but I spoke with the owner of Powell and he assured me the new rod is just a slight upgrade and they would play the same.
Go read the rod review that Tackletour did on this rod. It is the most versatile rod I own, and that includes 11 other baitcasters. Here is the review http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpowell683cxfastpg2.html
The 723 is a very similar rod but since I have never fished one I have a harder time suggesting it plays like the 683.
There is nothing wrong with choosing the Dobyns. I fish some of those and love them. I just know how versatile the Powell is. It just seems to always make it onto my deck no matter where I am fishing.
By the way the rod monkey said yes you do need another new rod !!!
fvogel67 reply :
You always need another rod.?
DogBone_384 reply :
On 4/20/2017 at 7:51 PM, fvogel67 said:You always need another rod.?
X2
XpressJeff reply :
I am just getting back into fishing and I must agree...
You always need another rod!
And a reel to try on it!
Wow, I thought shooting was expensive
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/20/2017 at 10:20 AM, fishnkamp said:Both are terrific rods. I own rods from both companies and ironically Gary Dobyns helped design many of the Powell rods.
I own and LOVE LOVE LOVE my Powell Max 683CEF. It is one of the original series, not a MAX 3D but I spoke with the owner of Powell and he assured me the new rod is just a slight upgrade and they would play the same.
Go read the rod review that Tackletour did on this rod. It is the most versatile rod I own, and that includes 11 other baitcasters. Here is the review http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpowell683cxfastpg2.html
The 723 is a very similar rod but since I have never fished one I have a harder time suggesting it plays like the 683.
There is nothing wrong with choosing the Dobyns. I fish some of those and love them. I just know how versatile the Powell is. It just seems to always make it onto my deck no matter where I am fishing.
By the way the rod monkey said yes you do need another new rod !!!
Thanks for the info. I know both rods have great reviews, I think I'm leaning towards the Powell. I have iRods with the same type of skeletal reel seat that I really like. For some reason I feel that the handle/reel seat on the Fury would be less sensitive than the exposed skeletal of the Powell.
Can you attest to the sensitivity of the Powell vs the Dobyns?
nocluefisher reply :
You can buy that Powell rod at American Legacy right now and get a free diesel rod with it
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 12:56 AM, nocluefisher said:You can buy that Powell rod at American Legacy right now and get a free diesel rod with it
Is this an online deal or in store? Can you choose the Diesel rod?
nocluefisher reply :
It is online, they give you a choice of 3 different diesel rods to choose from I believe. Check their website out. I am on their email list and get email blasts when they have deals.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 1:46 AM, nocluefisher said:It is online, they give you a choice of 3 different diesel rods to choose from I believe. Check their website out
I'm not seeing anything about that on the website. I even added the rod to the cart and still nothing. Maybe they are not doing that promotion anymore or they are out of Diesels...
nocluefisher reply :
After you order the max rod they call you and ask which diesel rod you want according to the email. Give them a call
877-402-6350
Fishin' Fool reply :
Yep I just saw this e-mail too. If you order a Inferno or Max 3D you get a free Diesel. Can't beat that.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
I may have to take advantage of this deal before they run out of Diesels... Maybe Ill get the Max 3D 723 and a Diesel 723 (if they have it)
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 2:27 AM, ib_of_the_damned said:I may have to take advantage of this deal before they run out of Diesels... Maybe Ill get the Max 3D 723 and a Diesel 723 (if they have it)
Your choice of Diesels is limited to:
6104 CB glass
702 MLEF
755 CB glass
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 2:30 AM, Fishin' Fool said:
Your choice of Diesels is limited to:
6104 CB glass
702 MLEF
755 CB glass
Are they all Casting rods? If so I could take the 702 as a finesse/shakeyhead rod...
Fishin' Fool reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 2:32 AM, ib_of_the_damned said:Are they all Casting rods? If so I could take the 702 as a finesse/shakeyhead rod...
That's a good question. The email doesn't say. I don't see how to access the deal from the website. Maybe just call the store as suggested.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 2:39 AM, Fishin' Fool said:
That's a good question. The email doesn't say. I don't see how to access the deal from the website. Maybe just call the store as suggested.
Well for the 702 length and power, I'm not going to say no to a free rod! Regardless if its spinning or casting. I have a feeling it may be spinning. I don't think they ever made a ML Casting Diesel, I believe they were only M and up.
RoLo reply :
You've done your homework, both are tremendous blanks.
In fact, I'd hesitate to recommend one over the other.
Roger
TX-Deluxe reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 12:56 AM, nocluefisher said:You can buy that Powell rod at American Legacy right now and get a free diesel rod with it
IMHO if someone is giving away something like that there is definitely an issue.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/21/2017 at 3:15 AM, TX-Deluxe said:IMHO if someone is giving away something like that there is definitely an issue.
Not necessarily. I have bought a reel from a trade show (Bass-A-Thon at Anglers Marine) and the rep threw in a free rod. The rod has lasted me quite a while, in fact I still have it! I bought a 2nd Gen Revo SX years ago when it first came out and the Berkley Rep gave me a Vendetta rod, SpiderWire tackle bag, and a spool of Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon to go along with it.
fishnkamp reply :
There is no issue with the Diesel rods they are giving away.
Powell upgraded from the Powell Diesel line to the Powell Nusance line of rods. They have stopped making them for awhile now.
I bet American Legacy had some left over in their stock and just wants to clear old inventory. Remember Powell clearly made everyone aware these rods came with original manufacturer defect warranty only. If you broke it they would not do any type of partial cost replacement, like the warranty they offer on their normal rod lines. The rods were priced for less than say an Inferno costs to replace under its normal warranty.
That makes them no less worth their original price and for free it is a no brainer.
Go jump on it. The 702MLEF is definitely going to be a spinning rod.
If you were to purchase a Nusance 702MLEF it would cost $90.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
So I pulled the trigger and ordered the Powell Max 3D 723 from American Legacy, I also had some rods pre-appraised for a trade in which should amount to about $75. All in, I spent about ~$100 and got two Powell Rods out of it! The Max 3D that I wanted and a free Diesel 702!
fishnkamp reply :
That is a good deal for sure. If you match the Diesel with a reel like the Pflueger President in a 6930 or 35 it will cost you about $60 from Dicks and other locations If you want a lighter reel look at an Okuma RTX30 or a Pflueger Supreme. They are all very reliable reels and none cost more $100.
Check out a Daiwa Tatula CT for a nice reel to match the 723.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/28/2017 at 7:48 AM, fishnkamp said:That is a good deal for sure. If you match the Diesel with a reel like the Pflueger President in a 6930 or 35 it will cost you about $60 from Dicks and other locations If you want a lighter reel look at an Okuma RTX30 or a Pflueger Supreme. They are all very reliable reels and none cost more $100.
Check out a Daiwa Tatula CT for a nice reel to match the 723.
I ordered a Tatula SV TWS XSL that I will try out with the Max 3D or I could put my Curado 71HG on it, I havent decided yet. I already have spinning reels that I am going to pair the Diesel with. Either an Okuma Trio 20 or a *** Creed X 1000. I have a No *** 7'ML with the Okuma Trio on it so I may leave that combo alone and put the Creed on the Diesel.
fishnkamp reply :
I am dying to try out one of those Daiwa Tatula SV but honestly I have replaced 6 reels in the last 12 months. I am trying to keep the Monkey away for a little while.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/28/2017 at 10:23 AM, fishnkamp said:I am dying to try out one of those Daiwa Tatula SV but honestly I have replaced 6 reels in the last 12 months. I am trying to keep the Monkey away for a little while.
If you are not already on the American Legacy newsletter email list, when you sign up you get a $25 code to use on any purchase over $100. That's how I justified buying the Tatula SV...
fishnkamp reply :
Thanks for the info. I think I am going to stay put on equipment for a while. In the last 18 months I have sold off 3 baitcasting rods, two spinning rods one spinning reel, a spincast reel and 6 baitcasting reels. After all of that, I own 4 new combos with very upgraded rods, 6 new reels and two new spinning combos for my wife. I think it is time to take a break for a while. I will sayI love all of the Daiwas and the rods from Powell, Irod, and Dobyns.
ib_of_the_damned reply :
On 4/28/2017 at 10:31 AM, fishnkamp said:Thanks for the info. I think I am going to stay put on equipment for a while. In the last 18 months I have sold off 3 baitcasting rods, two spinning rods one spinning reel, a spincast reel and 6 baitcasting reels. After all of that, I own 4 new combos with very upgraded rods, 6 new reels and two new spinning combos for my wife. I think it is time to take a break for a while. I will sayI love all of the Daiwas and the rods from Powell, Irod, and Dobyns.
I hear that!! I'm in the same boat, I am slowly getting rid of my older rods and reels to make room for higher end tackle. I can honestly say you get what you pay for with rods and reels!
fishnkamp reply :
Today the rods and reels that cost between $100 and $200 are some of the highest quality and that is the most competitive part of the market. The quality and performance is equal to much of what was being sold for twice that just a few years ago. There is still a difference in s $200 reel and a $400 reel, but not as much as there has been in the past.
It is easy to pick a mid priced reel, like a Tatula CT, Curado I, Lews Speed Spool( pick a version) and match it to a light weight, sensitive, well balanced rod for around $300. It will perform terrific and catch a lot of fish for you.
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