Fluorocarbon Knot? 2024
Texas bassman reply :
i just tied both a palomar and a double uni knot or whatever that knot for fluoro is called. i used 12lb test and pulled the **** out of both knots. neither broke. but its been said that the palomar isnt good for fluoro... what knot do yall tie for fluorocarbon??
tbone1993 reply :
I use a modified version of this knot for braid ( I think its called a berkley knot) but yeah use this knot
Darren. reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 6:56 AM, BASSIN28 said:i just tied both a palomar and a double uni knot or whatever that knot for fluoro is called. i used 12lb test and pulled the **** out of both knots. neither broke. but its been said that the palomar isnt good for fluoro... what knot do yall tie for fluorocarbon??
When I have used pure FC, and tying to say, a worm hook, I will tie a snell each and every time.
If I were tying to a lure, I'd carefully tie a palomar with plenty of spit. I've also used a clinch knot being careful to keep it plenty wet.
shootermcbob reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 7:02 AM, tbone1993 said:I use a modified version of this knot for braid ( I think its called a berkley knot) but yeah use this knot
I use the same for flourocarbon and mono lines.
iabass8 reply :
Palomar works fine and will get the job done if you are constantly checking your line. I found the San Diego Jam to be a much superior knot in my experiences. Very easy to tie and holds the %#$% out of baits/snags.
ww2farmer reply :
Trilene knot.
Texas bassman reply :
THIS IS THE KNOT I TIED
SAME AS THE SAN DIEGO?
I PULLED A 15FT BROKEN TREE LIMB OUT TO THE BANK WITH A PALOMAR AND 20LB FC AFTER I GOT MY RED EYE SHAD HUNG UP.
OkeechobeeAngler reply :
Palomar here. Never had a problem when fishing either fresh or saltwater.
WRB reply :
Web search; fluorocarbon knotOn 4/3/2013 at 6:56 AM, BASSIN28 said:i just tied both a palomar and a double uni knot or whatever that knot for fluoro is called. i used 12lb test and pulled the **** out of both knots. neither broke. but its been said that the palomar isnt good for fluoro... what knot do yall tie for fluorocarbon??
You will get dizzy with all the FC knots being touted as the best knot. Shaw Grigsby has promoted the same (double San Diego jam knot) under at least 3 different names the past 2 years.
The problem with FC knots is deforming the line while clinching the knot tight, this reduces the knot strength about 25% on impact or sudden pulling force.
The key is practice tying whatever knot you prefer until you can do it with ease and have good results every time. Retying knots under fishing conditions; controlling the boat in windy, cold, waves, poor light is very important. Never leave FC knots tied over night or longer than 24 hours.
Tom
Texas bassman reply :
thanks man.
tylerwyp reply :
Just recently started with fluorocarbon and have been tying San Diego jam with no problems other than it being complicated to tie
Brian Needham reply :
improved clinch.
really any knot will work, cinch down slowly with LOTS of spit. Tie whatever knot you can make PRETTY. pretty, perfectly stacked knots don't fail.
MarkH024 reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 9:12 AM, tylerwyp said:Just recently started with fluorocarbon and have been tying San Diego jam with no problems other than it being complicated to tie
Really? I find it one of the fastest and easiest knots to tie without creating a giant tag end to cut. I've also used palomar with no issues too but SDJ knot is faster especially with trebles and wire baits.
BassThumb reply :
In my personal opinion, finding a knot that you can tie quickly, comfortably, and cleanly is more important than searching for the "best" knot.
I use the Improved Clinch with lots of spit. Fluorocarbon burns very easily, so using adequate lubrication is very important.
BassinB reply :
San diego jam knot. Double san diego jam knot. Best flouro knot there is imo. Shaw grigsby uses it i know.
fl_bass reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 9:12 AM, tylerwyp said:Just recently started with fluorocarbon and have been tying San Diego jam with no problems other than it being complicated to tie
The trick I have found to make it easy to tie the SDJ is to place the hook around something as you make the twists around the line. Sorta like a third hand. I have a spot on my tackle box the use to put a little tension and off I go. Hope that helps you out. Dumped the palomar after trying the SDJ. 
backcast88 reply :
I use the San Diego Jam for fluoro, and mono. I stopped using braid 3 or 4 years ago and would use the SDJ for that as well if I still used braid.
tylerwyp reply :
On 4/4/2013 at 7:51 AM, fl_bass said:The trick I have found to make it easy to tie the SDJ is to place the hook around something as you make the twists around the line. Sorta like a third hand. I have a spot on my tackle box the use to put a little tension and off I go. Hope that helps you out. Dumped the palomar after trying the SDJ.
Will have to try this! I have found my problem to be the lure spinning and me loosing the spot to loop back through
PondBoss reply :
SDJ is "THE" knot to tie. It works great for all 3 line types, and once I started using it I've never even thought of tying anything else.
cbass12 reply :
On 4/4/2013 at 2:36 AM, BassThumb said:In my personal opinion, finding a knot that you can tie quickly, comfortably, and cleanly is more important than searching for the "best" knot.
I use the Improved Clinch with lots of spit. Fluorocarbon burns very easily, so using adequate lubrication is very important.
This ^^^^
For me its the palomar.
Mike L reply :
IMHO The SDJ knot is hands down the best floro knot there is.
Mike
kickerfish1 reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 9:24 AM, Brian Needham said:improved clinch.
really any knot will work, cinch down slowly with LOTS of spit. Tie whatever knot you can make PRETTY. pretty, perfectly stacked knots don't fail.
Same thing for this guy. Frankily, I have sort of got the improved clinch down to where I can use it for any line and have confidence in the knot. The key is to make sure everything secures together properly. I find that I can ties this knot the fastest, most efficiently and in most any condition including low light periods.
There probably isn't a right or wrong answer here, just make sure whatever knot you choose is tied properly cinches down well.
Virtuoso reply :
On 4/6/2013 at 10:03 PM, kickerfish1 said:Same thing for this guy. Frankily, I have sort of got the improved clinch down to where I can use it for any line and have confidence in the knot. The key is to make sure everything secures together properly. I find that I can ties this knot the fastest, most efficiently and in most any condition including low light periods.
There probably isn't a right or wrong answer here, just make sure whatever knot you choose is tied properly cinches down well.
The improved clinch knot can be tied fast. My grief with it is that its original version had to be "improved". If something needs to be improved, it usually means there was a fault in the original. The san-diego double jam is so much better IMHO. You can do the single jam or double jam.
TNBassin' reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 6:56 AM, BASSIN28 said:i just tied both a palomar and a double uni knot or whatever that knot for fluoro is called. i used 12lb test and pulled the **** out of both knots. neither broke. but its been said that the palomar isnt good for fluoro... what knot do yall tie for fluorocarbon??
As long as you wet the line good, the palomar is fine with fluoro. Some will say other wise, but I've seen too many pros say it's fine, plus you tested it yourself and didn't have any issues.
Felix77 reply :
On 4/3/2013 at 7:35 AM, ww2farmer said:Trilene knot.
x2 on the Trilene for FC.
Brian Needham reply :
On 4/9/2013 at 4:41 AM, Virtuoso said:The improved clinch knot can be tied fast. My grief with it is that its original version had to be "improved". If something needs to be improved, it usually means there was a fault in the original. The san-diego double jam is so much better IMHO. You can do the single jam or double jam.
I guess that's my issue with the SDJ, something must be wrong with it since it needs to be "doubled".....hahhahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahaha
A-Rob reply :
san diego jam
it is the only knot I can't break when I lay into a hook set
kickerfish1 reply :
On 4/9/2013 at 4:41 AM, Virtuoso said:The improved clinch knot can be tied fast. My grief with it is that its original version had to be "improved". If something needs to be improved, it usually means there was a fault in the original. The san-diego double jam is so much better IMHO. You can do the single jam or double jam.
I understand there may better knots or knots that test well on a competitive demonstration like knot wars. If you want to get technical there is probably an idea knot for each type of line out there. The last few years I put hours into perfecting a few knots. The improved clinch or my version of it is simply the strongest and easiest for me tie. I have all the faith in the world in this knot and its strength. I can tie this knot in under 20 seconds. I have seen others tie versions of the clinch or improved clinch and simply put there knots weren't as good "looking". They actually asked me if I would tie it for them.
Sorry, not trying to brag but this is the knot I will continue to use for everything until results tell me otherwise. Pitzen, San Diego jam, Palomar, etc... all are good knots and for the guys out there that tie them and have confidence in them that is all that really matters. Just happy to have options to find one that works best for said user.
new2BC4bass reply :
I used the Clinch/Improved Clinch for years in my youth with never a problem. I took the written word as truth that the Uni Knot was better, and have used it every since. I agree that no one knot is the end all. Tie the one you have confidence in, and are able to tie correctly without even thinking about it.
Anchoring the hook is a good idea. I haven't learned how to tie a good Alberto Knot without using a piece of tape to hold down my doubled line. Just like with anything....practice is the key.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 4/4/2013 at 12:26 AM, MarkH024 said:Really? I find it one of the fastest and easiest knots to tie without creating a giant tag end to cut. I've also used palomar with no issues too but SDJ knot is faster especially with trebles and wire baits.
Guess I am going to have to spend some time learning this knot. I hate have to cut off several inches of tag end every time I need to retie or change lures.
MarkH024 reply :
On 4/9/2013 at 7:52 PM, new2BC4bass said:Guess I am going to have to spend some time learning this knot. I hate have to cut off several inches of tag end every time I need to retie or change lures.
I was trying to find you a *** video of one of the guys tying the knot. If I can track it down, I'll link it to you but so far I can't seem to recover it. It was quite some time when I first saw it so maybe it's archived or something.
Keep practicing it, definitely worth while to know if you continue to use Fluoro.
Virtuoso reply :
On 4/9/2013 at 11:30 AM, kickerfish1 said:I understand there may better knots or knots that test well on a competitive demonstration like knot wars. If you want to get technical there is probably an idea knot for each type of line out there. The last few years I put hours into perfecting a few knots. The improved clinch or my version of it is simply the strongest and easiest for me tie. I have all the faith in the world in this knot and its strength. I can tie this knot in under 20 seconds. I have seen others tie versions of the clinch or improved clinch and simply put there knots weren't as good "looking". They actually asked me if I would tie it for them.
Sorry, not trying to brag but this is the knot I will continue to use for everything until results tell me otherwise. Pitzen, San Diego jam, Palomar, etc... all are good knots and for the guys out there that tie them and have confidence in them that is all that really matters. Just happy to have options to find one that works best for said user.
There are ideal knots for certain lines, techniques, and conditions. I always use the ideal knot. This gives me confidence. I could see how getting good at tying one knot would give confidence. The "C" In Catching....is for confidence.
A neat knot goes a long ways towards its strength. Spending hours to perfect a knot is a good plan. Many people DO NOT understand the importance of practicing their knots. Fluorocarbon will let you know if you are tying poor knots. I suggest you try some superglue to prevent slippage associated with poor knot construction. (this does not apply to your case since your knots are perfect)
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moguy1973 reply :
How to properly tie the Palomar with fluorocarbon line:
gripnrip reply :
On 4/9/2013 at 9:36 PM, moguy1973 said:How to properly tie the Palomar with fluorocarbon line:
tried and true. Great video!
OkeechobeeAngler reply :
Plain and simple. Quickest knot for me to tie. Been using it for so many years. Especially in saltwater catching shark, tarpon and snook from the jetty, Never a problem with the knot. Got cut off, but no knot failures,
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