Flippin....braid Or Flouro? 2025
BostonMahhk reply :
Hey guys. Just bought a flippin set up and was wondering what others thought about they type of line I should be using. Should I use braid or flouro? Give me your thoughts
Montanaro reply :
fluoro sinks...making your lure drop slightly more realistic (in heavy cover like those lily pads in your picture, the fluoro will get caught on the pads so sink rate is really no different from braid). It's also hard to see under water, so it's good around sparse cover. If you watch for nicks in your line, you won't have a problem around timber.
fishing in heavy weeds though...go braid as it will cut through better and give a better hookset.
A-Jay reply :
Braid all day, every day.
No stretch, Solid knot strength, Good abrasion resistance properties in everything except shark rocks, cement pilings, zebra mussels and what ever the heck those trees are on Lake Baccarac.
A-Jay
The Next KVD reply :
If your going to be primarily wood or man-made targets than I suggest fluorocarbon. If your primarily fishing weeds than braid. If your going to be fishing both and sometimes both the same day I would go with braid and if you really need to add a fluorocarbon leader.
BostonMahhk reply :
That sounds good. I lean towards braid. It's what I've been using. I think the only reason I would flouro sounds debatable to me is because it's less visible so I'm gonna spool braid and use a flouro leader when need be. Thanks guys.
Grantman83 reply :
Braid has no sensitivity on a slack line because vibration is deadened. On a slack line, you will feel more with fluror
Felix77 reply :
I just bought a setup too and went with braid for the reasons already described. I primarily fish weeds.
Not_Here reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 7:34 AM, Grantman83 said:Braid has no sensitivity on a slack line because vibration is deadened. On a slack line, you will feel more with fluror
true but on slack line using as braid since it floats and especially when using hivis visual detection of line movement, ticks and bounces is highly effective...
MarkH024 reply :
Spoken like a true flippin toon ninjaOn 12/19/2013 at 7:52 AM, Frog Turds said:true but on slack line using as braid since it floats and especially when using hivis visual detection of line movement, ticks and bounces is highly effective...
Grantman83 reply :
True...but when flipping wood isn't ones line going to bounce anyway from hitting branches etc?
I keep it to braid with heavy grass and fluoro for everything else....try both and see which one you prefer.
Not_Here reply :
thats really a non issue when pitchin wood...for me its easily discernible whether its a fish or cover when line watching comes into play on slack line, just an experience thing...
mjseverson24 reply :
I use floro for everything except punching... Rods are too easily broken with braid, I also like the versatility of floro, I can fish it in dark water and Gin clear water, the slack line sensitivity is also nice as I believe it adds a few fish throughout a day on the water. braid is not as effective for clear water in my experience.
Mitch
Not_Here reply :
never broke a rod because of braid in the somewhere around 20ish years i've used it exclusively, from light power sticks to flippin sticks...that statement "easily broken" is far from accurate...
iabass8 reply :
If I can get away with using fluoro, I do so. I hate braid and really only use it in instances where i have to move fish in a very fast manner.
BostonMahhk reply :
I understand they are both better for different things but I'm already buying rods and reels for different techniques. I'm not gonna go buy two flippin sticks and two reels so I can spool one with braid and one with flouro unless/until I start fishing serious money tourneys. So wouldn't the idea of spooling braid and using a flouro leader when needed solve the issue? I know it may not have the sensitivity of all flouro but like I said, my main point in why'd I'd use flouro at all would be because of the invisibility factor. A flouro leader when needed would solve that issue
iabass8 reply :
if you have one set up for flipping into heavy grass/weeds/wood etc, use braid.
Catt reply :
65# braid 
mjseverson24 reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 9:18 AM, Frog Turds said:never broke a rod because of braid in the somewhere around 20ish years i've used it exclusively, from light power sticks to flippin sticks...that statement "easily broken" is far from accurate...
each person is different, but if I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break, I lock my drags totally down and remove the grease from the drag to increase max drag. I like having the stretch of mono or floro so when I am not thinking and set too hard I wont break the flippin stick... if braid works for you that is great keep using it, but rods really can break easily dont believe me put a 10 lb weight on 65 lb braid and pick it up with your rod ( this wil simulate setting into a log or rock) give it a couple of bounces, you might not like the results... 7' XH/MF or H/MF night be able to handle 10 lbs but setting hard into a solid object will put more than 10 lbs of strain on the rod...
Mitch
War Eagle 44 reply :
I use straight braid 100% of the time flipping now days. Granted the majority of my flipping is done in grass so...
I've never had a problem feeling the strike while using braid, I know guys complain about the "slack line" issue but it hasn't been a problem for me. Before going to braid I was using 20# fluoro and I can't tell a difference in the number of, or quality, of my fish. Not saying there isn't truth in their argument I'm simply saying I much prefer braid and it's easier handling compared to heavy fluoro. Even when I flip/pitch to wood or docks I still go straight braid. I'm not sure this is the best strategy here, I'm simply to lazy to tie on a leader just for the few docks or brush I might flip in a days time. If I were fishing for money and knew the wood/dock bite was going to be a factor I'd definitely rig up a leader.
rippin-lips reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 11:46 AM, mjseverson24 said:If I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break.Mitch
Seems to me
you've had to already done some sort of damage to the rod either by hitting it off something or whatnot. Explain the guys who punch on big O all day landing 5-10lb fish with braid and drags locked down. Not a single broken rod. Personally I've set the hook on multiple occasions that wasn't a fish and never broken a rod. I ended up straightening my hook out before the line breaks trying to pull it loose. 4/5ot gammy ewg superline. Saying that braid breaks rods is false.
Not_Here reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 11:46 AM, mjseverson24 said:each person is different, but if I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break, I lock my drags totally down and remove the grease from the drag to increase max drag. I like having the stretch of mono or floro so when I am not thinking and set too hard I wont break the flippin stick... if braid works for you that is great keep using it, but rods really can break easily dont believe me put a 10 lb weight on 65 lb braid and pick it up with your rod ( this wil simulate setting into a log or rock) give it a couple of bounces, you might not like the results... 7' XH/MF or H/MF night be able to handle 10 lbs but setting hard into a solid object will put more than 10 lbs of strain on the rod...
Mitch
sorry but i don't care how you slice it, its a false statement...your obviously doing something wrong and its user error if your snapping rods or bad blanks...how you fish is nothing special & not unique...99% of what i do is heavy cover work and your trying to tell me to try some goofy test to prove your point? your preaching to the choir...i don't need to do any test, my proof is on the water ripping fish out of the heaviest junk i can find year after year and i have never broke a stick because of using braid...am i unique or just lucky? no i am not...
your are the only person i have ever heard make such a statement...
rippin-lips reply :
Here's 17 minutes of flipping heavy cover on Big O and not a single broken rod. Not a one!
rockchalk06 reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 11:46 AM, mjseverson24 said:each person is different, but if I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break, I lock my drags totally down and remove the grease from the drag to increase max drag. I like having the stretch of mono or floro so when I am not thinking and set too hard I wont break the flippin stick... if braid works for you that is great keep using it, but rods really can break easily dont believe me put a 10 lb weight on 65 lb braid and pick it up with your rod ( this wil simulate setting into a log or rock) give it a couple of bounces, you might not like the results... 7' XH/MF or H/MF night be able to handle 10 lbs but setting hard into a solid object will put more than 10 lbs of strain on the rod...
Mitch
Mitch,
No offense here brother, but if that were the case, braid would have been put to death a long time ago.
mjseverson24 reply :
I am not trying to say if you use braid you will break a rod... each person sets the hook differently, my point is that you have a higher probability of breaking a rod using braided line due to the small amount of stretch of this line. and like I said earlier I use braid just not for flipping unless I am using a punching technique then it works much better in my opinion... I have broken a few rods on hard hooksets in the past all using braid and heavy flipping hooks, the rods were in good shape with no damage on the blank just a strong hookset and they broke. I am not the only guy who has broken rods, but I do know that since I switched to a line with more stretch than braid I have not broke any... I also never said that braid breaks rods, people break rods, or rods are defective from the factory I dont put any blame on my rods breaking on braid, its is all on me for setting the hook a little too hard, so to compensate for human error I use the more forgiving lines...
Mitch
rippin-lips reply :
Braid and a hard hook set will not break a rod unless it's previously damaged or blemed from the factory.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 12:31 PM, War Eagle 44 said:I use straight braid 100% of the time flipping now days. Granted the majority of my flipping is done in grass so...
I've never had a problem feeling the strike while using braid, I know guys complain about the "slack line" issue but it hasn't been a problem for me. Before going to braid I was using 20# fluoro and I can't tell a difference in the number of, or quality, of my fish. Not saying there isn't truth in their argument I'm simply saying I much prefer braid and it's easier handling compared to heavy fluoro. Even when I flip/pitch to wood or docks I still go straight braid. I'm not sure this is the best strategy here, I'm simply to lazy to tie on a leader just for the few docks or brush I might flip in a days time. If I were fishing for money and knew the wood/dock bite was going to be a factor I'd definitely rig up a leader.
Me either, there are ways to reduce the slack in the line too. At present my heaviest bass rig is med 7' 8/17 spin rod with 12# supercast braid. I have never broken a rod on a hookest or landing a fish, don't seem to have any problem pulling fish out of cover with this set up either. In fairness 8# is about the biggest bass I'll come across.
BostonMahhk reply :
I bought a revo stx at 7.1:1 for my flippin reel and put it on a 7'6" MH veritas and I spooled it with 50lb power pro braid. I got two questions. 1) should I go with 65lb braid instead? 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for other flippin rods in the $100-$200 range? I'm not comfortable with anything larger than 7'8" in length
Shane J reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 6:57 AM, A-Jay said:
On 12/19/2013 at 6:57 AM, A-Jay said:Braid all day, every day.
No stretch, Solid knot strength, Good abrasion resistance properties in everything except shark rocks, cement pilings, zebra mussels and what ever the heck those trees are on Lake Baccarac.
A-Jay
Haha. Yeah, those thorny, tough trees that are everywhere, are called rotomma (sp?) Toughest plant on the planet, and a line and bait killer!
Anyway, yeah, all braid for me (65lb) for flippin'.
down4ttown reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 10:03 PM, BostonMahhk said:I bought a revo stx at 7.1:1 for my flippin reel and put it on a 7'6" MH veritas and I spooled it with 50lb power pro braid. I got two questions. 1) should I go with 65lb braid instead? 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for other flippin rods in the $100-$200 range? I'm not comfortable with anything larger than 7'8" in length
I have a revo STX and I use 40lb braid for flipping. I think 50 is more than enough though. I actually bought a Villain for 99 to pair with my STX.
Todd2 reply :
50 lb Braid or 17 lb Mccoy copolymer for pitching for me. Both are low memory which I like for pitching. Now, I think I will go back to fluoro when fishing deep open water. Just my two cents, and probably worth less than that.
mnbassman23 reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 12:50 PM, rippin-lips said:Here's 17 minutes of flipping heavy cover on Big O and not a single broken rod. Not a one!
To be fair, Mike has broken numerous rods in his day. He has gone through a couple different manufactures trying to find a rod to hold up to his abuse. Not saying thats due to fishing braid, but the style of fishing he does.
I have broken rods with braid, mono, fluoro, it's not the lines fault its user error as others have mentioned.
mjseverson24- Trying to pickup a 10lb weight with a rod and bouncing it around is not the same as setting the hook on a fish/rock/log. Doing that with any rod and line combo is going to cause rod breakage issues and really has no merit in the fishing world besides maybe boat flipping 10lb+ fish. Kind of the same argument as bowhunters shooting broad heads into 55 gallon drums. I'll start worry about that when we start hunting steel drums and fishing involves dead lifting weights into the boat.
ZB85 reply :
On 12/19/2013 at 10:03 PM, BostonMahhk said:I bought a revo stx at 7.1:1 for my flippin reel and put it on a 7'6" MH veritas and I spooled it with 50lb power pro braid. I got two questions. 1) should I go with 65lb braid instead? 2) Does anyone have any suggestions for other flippin rods in the $100-$200 range? I'm not comfortable with anything larger than 7'8" in length
I've been looking at the Denali Kovert 7'8" xh flippin rod. I think it retails at $149. If you don't want anything over 7'8" that might be a rod worth checking out. I also have a 7'6"mh veritas that I used as my frog rod this year and its definitely a work horse. As for line if your pitching and especially punching some real nasty stuff going up to 65lb might not be a bad idea. I think I'm going to try out 65lb Sunline fx2 braid this year on my heavy cover set up.
WRB reply :
If you flip with braid, take a look at Dee Thomas guides for flipping.
Tom
PS, TT review 3/20/2013
SenkoGuru reply :
I can vouch for the Denali Kovert 7'8" Extra Heavy. It is a very nice rod and I'll be using it for punching and flipping, along side a Duckett White Ice 7'9" Extra Heavy. Both Rods are great for their price range. I was honestly surprised with how nice the Kovert is, I had doubt on ordering the Denali because I'm pretty diehard on White Ice Rods but now I'm glad I did. I'll be buying the Denali Kovert 7'2" Heavy and the 6'9" Med-Hvy very soon they are that nice. I know I'm new here but if you knew me, this is a huge statement, I really don't fish anything other than Duckett Rod's so this is high praise for Denali.
Catt reply :
I've never broke a rod on a bass, it was always operator error!
I flip/pitch/punch Toledo Bend's huge grass mats, Buck Brush fields, endless acres of standing timber & have landed dozens of bass from 8-12 lbs.
I'm currently using a Shimano Crucial 7' 11" Xhvy, Calcutta CT100A, & 65# TUF LINE XP.
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