Recently purchased a Duckett Micro Magic 7 MH, its a great rod and by default very sensitive, but I think it has the potential to be more sensitive if I switch to more sensitive line. Im currently using 12lb stren monofilament and could use some suggestions on a better more sensitive line.
Thanks for all the help
Fluorocarbon is more sensitive. Braid is sensitive with a semi-tight line.
On 9/7/2014 at 3:29 AM, alee17 said:Fluorocarbon is more sensitive. Braid is sensitive with a semi-tight line.
X2. Braid is great if the line is tight enough.
braid is more sensitive..fluoro still has some stretch
10# braid on one of my setups is great small diameter stuff with great sensitivity
Braid is the most sensitive. The only time floro is more sensitive is with slack line presentations.
Braid to me is the most sensitive but that is not always a good thing. It just depends on the application.
Braid by miles
Braid wins on a tight line
Fluoro wins on a slack line
Braid has zero slack line sensitivity
Braid is more sensitive in general but has zero sensitivity on a completely slack line, however on a semi-slack line it still has some feel.
like everyone already said. I personally take the advantages of braid over flouro and just watch my line and the slack line sensitivity is pretty much eliminated in my experience.
^^^This as well. Even though fluoro may be a slight bit more sensitive on slack line, it still has some memory which you need to feel through. Whereas braid has no memory, the line lays out so nicely that you see every single tick you get.
Both lines transmit vibration very well depending on how it is fished. In real world fishing each will have situations where it out performs the other. Neither is a one line does all solution, depending on the environment and type of fishing you do most should be used to determine which line would be best for you.
Interestingly, I've found plenty of "slack-line" sensitivity with braid + leader. When a fish hits the bait on the hook tied to a leader, tied to slack braided mainline, I can feel it.
When it is a good hit. Obviously I cannot feel the fish breathing on the bait....
But I've been happy with this method so far.
ur going to be in heaven just b/c you ditched the mono!
i like braid more b/c there is nothing worse than back lashing fluoro and kinking the line 50 ft into ur spool. snip snip you can pick out a massive 100 ft braid back lash and keep on fishing. get ready to re-spool if you do that with fluoro.
On 9/7/2014 at 10:08 AM, DarrenM said:Interestingly, I've found plenty of "slack-line" sensitivity with braid + leader. When a fish hits the bait on the hook tied to a leader, tied to slack braided mainline, I can feel it.
When it is a good hit. Obviously I cannot feel the fish breathing on the bait....
But I've been happy with this method so far.
I too use braid and fluoro leader and have no problems with slackline sensitivity
Adding a FC leader does little of nothing to help with slack line sensitivity on braided line. In most cases there is still a lot of line between the leader and rod tip. Helps with line visibility - debatable, helps with abrasion resistance -absolutely.
What do you people think line does?
If I hit your lure with a 16 lb sludge hammer you would' feel anything unless the line moves! What you feel as sensitivity is line movement. The fact a line stretches has nothing to do with line movement unless you have applied enough force on the line to stretch it.
Both mono and braid tend to float as they are lighter density then FC that sinks. If the line floats it will have a bow in the water with a little slack in line. You can't feel any line movement with slack line. FC line has less drag coefficient of water than mono, therefor moves easier. Braid has very small diameter and less drag in water than either mono or FC and slides through the water easier than both mono and FC.
To determine strikes requires controlling line slack and feeling the line with your finger tips....they are sensitive!
Tom
I use braid w/ fluoro leaders for everything and I've always been happy with the sensitivity on a semi slack line. However, I might try some "good" fluoro and see what I'm missing. I tried some cheap fluoro a few years ago and had a terrible experience with memory and backlashes.
Some braids do.. The other day, I was fishing wacky rigs on braid and with a large slack bow in my line, I could feel the tap every time. I'm guessing the stiffer braids like power pro can do this but not the more limp braids like tufline.On 9/7/2014 at 5:31 AM, iabass8 said:Braid wins on a tight line
Fluoro wins on a slack line
Braid has zero slack line sensitivity
On 9/7/2014 at 9:09 PM, aprw1 said:Some braids do.. The other day, I was fishing wacky rigs on braid and with a large slack bow in my line, I could feel the tap every time. I'm guessing the stiffer braids like power pro can do this but not the more limp braids like tufline.
If there was a bow in your line it wasn't slack. It was semi-slack.
Most of the time your not gonna have a 100% slack line and when you do braid won't let you feel a thing
I should've clarified.. Large bow in line + long cast + slack enough that a good 10 yds or so was floating between the dropshot and the low tension now in the line. I could feel the bites every time.
Not completely slack obviously, but who casts and pulls line off their reel until it is sagging completely in the water? Lol
On 9/8/2014 at 5:37 AM, aprw1 said:I should've clarified.. Large bow in line + long cast + slack enough that a good 10 yds or so was floating between the dropshot and the low tension now in the line. I could feel the bites every time.
Not completely slack obviously, but who casts and pulls line off their reel until it is sagging completely in the water? Lol
I agree.
I would just get some of the great copoly lines they have now a days. They really are hard to beat and i don't even bother with much else. They work with any technique and will perform great.
If you want super high sensitivity and low stretch find a really dense hard line. But that also has a draw back if things like memory are a issue for you. Find the right line for you and buy the 3k spools. That was one of the best changes I ever made was to stop playing around with 300 or 270 or whatever amont spools come in.
I don't like using braid when it's slack line presentation such as weightless senkos. It's even worse when there is wind and the line get blown.
I switched from braid to flourocarbon on my jig/t-rig setup this year, and I couldn't be happier. Every little bump is transmitted to my hand, no matter how slack the line is. When I'm pitching t-rigs under docks, I can let the bait fall vertically (little or no line tension) and still feel a decisive "pop" when a bass hits. I will never go back to braid for this type of application. For what it's worth, I'm just using cheap Red Label flouro, and have had no issues with memory or breakage.
I find it interesting how these discussions usually turn into a braid vs fc debate. I use both, just for different applications, I don't think you can cover every situation well with just one or the other.