what is the best reel that i can use for frogging, punching, and flippin? thanks
You should be able to find a Daiwa tatula below retail online. Great reel
Like my Tats. A Lew's Tournament MB is on its way. Just under $109 on fleabay. The MB gets very god reviews, but it will be my first. Not first Lew's, first MB.
If you're idea of flipping is pulling line with free hand to raise and lower the bait into pockets Tatulas TWS can create a issue. Otherwise it's great at the price point you're looking at.
On 4/29/2016 at 9:59 AM, dam0007 said:If you're idea of flipping is pulling line with free hand to raise and lower the bait into pockets Tatulas TWS can create a issue. Otherwise it's great at the price point you're looking at.
Good to know! Is it the TWS system coming off the spool that causes issue?
On 4/29/2016 at 9:00 AM, Mike2841 said:You should be able to find a Daiwa tatula below retail online. Great reel
Hands down best reel in the price range under $200 IMO
On 4/29/2016 at 10:03 AM, South FLA said:Good to know! Is it the TWS system coming off the spool that causes issue?
No. When the reel is in the retrieve mode, pulling the line can/could (depending on hand position pull the line out of the guide and up over the lip of the opening. I noticed this and stopped using it for flipping. Ask 20 different people what flipping is and they'll give you 20 different techniques. I'll probably get blasted by someone in a few minutes lol
Flipping is really only one thing, and I can see where the real thing might cause a problem, unless you use a rod with a stripping guide close to the reel.
Anyway, I'd be looking for a great condition E7 Curado on the flaw market for this. Solid and reliable.
On 4/29/2016 at 10:06 AM, dam0007 said:No. When the reel is in the retrieve mode, pulling the line can/could (depending on hand position pull the line out of the guide and up over the lip of the opening. I noticed this and stopped using it for flipping. Ask 20 different people what flipping is and they'll give you 20 different techniques. I'll probably get blasted by someone in a few minutes lol
Trust me I know being from Florida, some people do funky antics when flipping. Most people are pitching and calling it flipping most of the time anyway, it seems the term is interchangeable now.
On 4/29/2016 at 9:12 AM, new2BC4bass said:Like my Tats. A Lew's Tournament MB is on its way. Just under $109 on fleabay. The MB gets very god reviews, but it will be my first. Not first Lew's, first MB.
My swim jig, chatterbait, square bill, and frog setups all have MB's on them and they have been bullet proof. I have from the Pro Magnesium to the MB and they've all been flawless.
On 4/29/2016 at 10:12 AM, South FLA said:Trust me I know being from Florida, some people do funky antics when flipping. Most people are pitching and calling it flipping most of the time anyway, it seems the term is interchangeable now.
Pic is terrible but you see where the line is supposed to be coming through the narrowing opening. It's not. It's up over the side. That's all I'm referencing by pulling the line with you're free hand. Maybe using big line like 25lb FC or Mono it's less likely to make it up and over. ??? I my self ain't risking a malfunction and break off. Lol
65lb braid
14lb mono
On 4/29/2016 at 10:10 AM, J Francho said:Flipping is really only one thing, and I can see where the real thing might cause a problem, unless you use a rod with a stripping guide close to the reel.
Anyway, I'd be looking for a great condition E7 Curado on the flaw market for this. Solid and reliable.
You referencing what I'm saying. Pulling line with free hand and dropping into pockets trolling motor on 70 lol
curado 200HG . You can find them in near new condition for around that.
Lew's Tournament FTW
Ambassadeur 4600c3 or c4, Ambassadeur 5500c3, Ambassadeur 5600c4.
Josh
On 4/29/2016 at 10:28 AM, dam0007 said:Pic is terrible but you see where the line is supposed to be coming through the narrowing opening. It's not. It's up over the side. That's all I'm referencing by pulling the line with you're free hand. Maybe using big line like 25lb FC or Mono it's less likely to make it up and over. ??? I my self ain't risking a malfunction and break off. Lol
65lb braid
14lb mono
You referencing what I'm saying. Pulling line with free hand and dropping into pockets trolling motor on 70 lol
Actually that's its intended purpose of TWS.
We're talking about FLIPPING. Flipping and pitching are not interchangeable terms. The spool is always engaged during a flip. When you pull line from between the stripper guide and the reel, it can become dislodged from the narrow section of the TWS wing.That can't be good on a hookset...
On 4/30/2016 at 2:28 AM, J Francho said:We're talking about FLIPPING. Flipping and pitching are not interchangeable terms. The spool is always engaged during a flip. When you pull line from between the stripper guide and the reel, it can become dislodged from the narrow section of the TWS wing.That can't be good on a hookset...
Agreed, not good to truly flip without the TWS engaged, recipe with disaster especially with fluorocarbon and pinch at edge of line guide.
OFF TOPIC
However, most people even seasoned bass fishermen say they are flipping when they are actually pitching. Very rarely do I see anyone flip anymore, since they engage spool and do "mini-pitches" However, when you ask the latest winner of a FLW or BFL tournament down here (hint,hint......) they say they were "flipping". So yes I they are different techniques, but when it comes to "dock talk" when someone says they flipped all day or were on a flipping bite it doesn't necessarily mean they were using a flipping technique, they were most likely pitching most of the time with the occasional flip here and there.
On 4/30/2016 at 2:28 AM, J Francho said:We're talking about FLIPPING. Flipping and pitching are not interchangeable terms. The spool is always engaged during a flip. When you pull line from between the stripper guide and the reel, it can become dislodged from the narrow section of the TWS wing.That can't be good on a hookset...
Exactly line will be at 2 90 degree angles. Thanks J
the shimano casitas , i bought a few for workhorses and for times i don't want to take out my higher end stuff and man , i'm loving them. don't buy into the hype from the composite frame haters , the reel is rock solid and for the money it's awesome.
another vote for the Casitas
On 4/30/2016 at 12:56 PM, tnt2671 said:the shimano casitas , i bought a few for workhorses and for times i don't want to take out my higher end stuff and man , i'm loving them. don't buy into the hype from the composite frame haters , the reel is rock solid and for the money it's awesome.
Curious, does it flex under load?
On 4/29/2016 at 9:12 AM, new2BC4bass said:Like my Tats. A Lew's Tournament MB is on its way. Just under $109 on fleabay. The MB gets very god reviews, but it will be my first. Not first Lew's, first MB.
Wish I looked on the fleabay before I bought my Lews MB for full retail of $140. Its a great real. I don't know which real I like better, the Lews tour. MB or the Tatula. I love them both. My next Tatula will come from the auction site since I see them all the time new for $100
On 4/30/2016 at 10:58 PM, mojojojo said:Wish I looked on the fleabay before I bought my Lews MB for full retail of $140. Its a great real. I don't know which real I like better, the Lews tour. MB or the Tatula. I love them both. My next Tatula will come from the auction site since I see them all the time new for $100
You couldn't find it for $109 or didn't want to wait? Mine shipped from Sportsman's Outfitters and was waiting for me yesterday when I got home from work. Nice looking reel. Not sure yet what line to put on it or which rod to try it on first.
On 4/30/2016 at 12:56 PM, tnt2671 said:the shimano casitas , i bought a few for workhorses and for times i don't want to take out my higher end stuff and man , i'm loving them. don't buy into the hype from the composite frame haters , the reel is rock solid and for the money it's awesome.
I don't understand why anyone would choose the casitas over the citica which you can find for the same price. I got my citica for 107 on ebay, and now I wish I wouldn't have payed 125 for my curado because it's the same reel.
Have you used the citica or curado I? Do you think the casitas is better for the price?
On 4/30/2016 at 11:55 PM, new2BC4bass said:You couldn't find it for $109 or didn't want to wait? Mine shipped from Sportsman's Outfitters and was waiting for me yesterday when I got home from work. Nice looking reel. Not sure yet what line to put on it or which rod to try it on first.
No, I was in my local sporting goods store and was handling it and liked it, so I bought it without shopping around..oh well
On 5/1/2016 at 1:52 AM, Nick S said:I don't understand why anyone would choose the casitas over the citica which you can find for the same price. I got my citica for 107 on ebay, and now I wish I wouldn't have payed 125 for my curado because it's the same reel.
Have you used the citica or curado I? Do you think the casitas is better for the price?
I agree, the Citica is a better reel for the money
On 4/30/2016 at 10:42 PM, lmbfisherman said:Curious, does it flex under load?
i've noticed absolutely no flex, have had several pike that were in the 13 to 15lb range and numerous bass both large and smallies of decent size many in cover. i would bass fish this reel anywhere with out a worry. the only thing i am not a fan of is the newer shimano handles so all my reels get hawgtechs with septons and a good degreasing and proper tune right out of the box. besides that these casitas's have shelved a lot of my higher end reels.
what i find is kind of funny is that when the new aldebaran came out last year i bought 2 at $350.00 plus dollars and absolutely hated them , although there were smooth they just felt cheap and plasticy ( i know this prob isn't even a word) but nobody was worried about them and i believe the reason is the marketing and price!! if shimano called the casitas something other than composite like molecular ci7+ or whatever and charged $349.00 for it people wouldn't be worried because it would be "high end". yes there are guys that won't even look at a reel that is not alum or mag framed as they are proven workhorses but coming from a background in the cycling industry ,composites / carbons etc are definitely here to stay and from companies like shimano with extensive engineering knowledge of these materials i think your going to see more and more out there
good to know, thanks