20 Lb bass 2024
Sholt reply :
Hey All
Im new here but fish all the time. An old timer from the town I live in recently told me a fable of a 21lb bass in one of the local ponds. 90 feet deep in a few places and a mile long. No one ever really pulls out monster bass but divers have seen them feeding on schools of perch. Im very intrigued and would like recommendations on a good rod and reel combo as well as line recommendations. Im thinking of going with a deep swimming realistic soft bait. Either a yellow perch or shiner type, if anyone has any recommendations or ideas let me know. Im looking forward to it.
IndianaFinesse reply :
Sounds like just that, nothing but a fable...
RoLo reply :
How do you weigh a bass without catching her first?
For now we'll just call her "Nessie" 
Roger
Turtle135 reply :
go big or go home! 
Sholt reply :
Thanks @Turtle135I was looking at this exactly lure, any idea on what the best rig to fish for something that big would be? I know Im chasing a ghost here but thats what its all about to me.
Turtle135 reply :
On 6/22/2017 at 10:34 PM, Sholt said:Thanks @Turtle135I was looking at this exactly lure, any idea on what the best rig to fish for something that big would be? I know Im chasing a ghost here but thats what its all about to me.
I was half joking about the Huddleston. That lure weighs 4.25 ounces so you really need a swimbait setup to cast a presentation that heavy. If you want to go that route take a look at extra heavy casting rods rated to handle that weight. Just as an example look at this hardware.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_DX_Swimbait_Casting_Rods/descpage-DXB.html
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Swimbait_Reels/catpage-SBRLS.html
What I would really recommend for most anglers is to throw big jigs and big 10" - 12" ribbontail worms. Those presentations can be handled on medium heavy casting setups.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Culprit_Original_Worm/descpage-CULPOW.html
Sholt reply :
Thanks @Turtle135 Im gonna get her!!
MassYak85 reply :
Where do you live? I'd imagine it's just a fisherman's tale but I guess in certain parts of the country there's a slim chance.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 6/22/2017 at 11:00 PM, Sholt said:Thanks @Turtle135 Im gonna get her!!
Which her?
Angry John reply :
I was going to recommend a Matt lures perch and that's around 2 oz. A dobyns 807 would match well with a 300 series low profile reel on 20 lb yhb or cxx. That setup would fish almost any soft bait around.
bigfruits reply :
why not? the largest bass in the world has probably never been caught.
try a big perch colored swimbait. drag it sloooooowly on the bottom.
get a well balanced big bait rod if you have big bass in your area. whats your budget? look at the Onager.
a heavy fast rod and braid should do if you dont want a dedicated XH.
Darren. reply :
Welcome aboard!
W/o a weight, a hooked but not landed fish is
a legend I know, I've caught a bunch of DD
bass!!
Sholt reply :
On 6/23/2017 at 5:23 AM, MassYak85 said:Where do you live? I'd imagine it's just a fisherman's tale but I guess in certain parts of the country there's a slim chance.
I live in mass. I believe the old timer for a few reasons. I want to and it's a state record for catch and keep
BassNJake reply :
Well thats about 4.5 lbs larger than the current state record for Mass. ..... Good Luck!!
GrumpyOlPhartte reply :
If I remember correctly, the MA state record is over 15 pounds. (Must have translated it to doggie pounds - if I divide that number by seven I get a more realistic number for my typical catch ... on a good day!) Seriously though, I did buy a rod with the intent of trying a weedless Hud 68 which I think weighs around two ounces. I figure if I cast that using my patented (meaning I screwed up) mortar cast, the concussion when it hits the water should stun any large bass in the vicinity and I'll just scoop them up when they float unconscious to the surface! Only thing left is to make the wife understand why I need a couple of twenty-five dollar lures!
12poundbass reply :
On 6/24/2017 at 2:25 AM, GrumpyOlPhartte said:If I remember correctly, the MA state record is over 15 pounds. (Must have translated it to doggie pounds - if I divide that number by seven I get a more realistic number for my typical catch ... on a good day!) Seriously though, I did buy a rod with the intent of trying a weedless Hud 68 which I think weighs around two ounces. I figure if I cast that using my patented (meaning I screwed up) mortar cast, the concussion when it hits the water should stun any large bass in the vicinity and I'll just scoop them up when they float unconscious to the surface! Only thing left is to make the wife understand why I need a couple of twenty-five dollar lures!
It's more likely I'd catch a 21 pound bass in Michigan than convince my wife I needed 1 lure that cost $25
new2BC4bass reply :
What? You think a $25 lure is expensive? Try these.
http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gone-fishin’/2013/07/4-japanese-bass-fishing-lures-deserve-spot-your-tacklebox-0
Pro Logcatcher reply :
The only reason I'd catch that fish is if I snagged it. They don't get that big by biting everything that passes by. Good luck, though.
J Francho reply :
A 20 lb. largemouth bass in MA is pretty much near impossible.
Sholt reply :
On 6/24/2017 at 4:24 AM, J Francho said:A 20 lb. largemouth bass in MA is pretty much near impossible.
until its caught
On 6/24/2017 at 2:25 AM, GrumpyOlPhartte said:If I remember correctly, the MA state record is over 15 pounds. (Must have translated it to doggie pounds - if I divide that number by seven I get a more realistic number for my typical catch ... on a good day!) Seriously though, I did buy a rod with the intent of trying a weedless Hud 68 which I think weighs around two ounces. I figure if I cast that using my patented (meaning I screwed up) mortar cast, the concussion when it hits the water should stun any large bass in the vicinity and I'll just scoop them up when they float unconscious to the surface! Only thing left is to make the wife understand why I need a couple of twenty-five dollar lures!
Im thinking 250-300 and going after it in the fall and winter if it freezes.
J Francho reply :
No, I mean it doesn't exist. You can think what you want, but it's pure fantasy.
Sholt reply :
On 6/24/2017 at 4:30 AM, J Francho said:No, I mean it doesn't exist. You can think what you want, but it's pure fantasy.
You dont know that, and youre from NY so...
scaleface reply :
Try a chicken nugget .
MassYak85 reply :
On 6/24/2017 at 4:34 AM, Sholt said:You dont know that, and youre from NY so...
Not trying to burst your bubble but I think what he's trying to imply is Northern Strain Largemouth don't get that big, period, for a number of reasons. Also...you said the old man told you a fable of a fish. It sounds like this was from a long time ago. In which case even if it was a 21lb fish, it's dead now. Now I'm sure there are still teeners swimming around that are absolutely worth pursuing, and I'd loooooooove to know what kind of stuff is swimming out in the middle of Wachusett reservoir that hasn't ever seen a lure before. But I think the 21lb bass is likely a case of a lying scale or lying fisherman. The real question is by how much? A 12lb fish exaggerated to 21 is still a fish I'd spend serious time on if I knew where it was.
All that being said I like to think there are still fish somewhere in the state capable of breaking the state record. Whether they can actually be caught is another story. There are just certain fish that will never see a fisherman unless the state regs change.
GrumpyOlPhartte reply :
@Sholt and @J Francho: just for the heck of it I looked up the state records for MA and NY. I found this at wideopenspaces.com.
| Massachusetts | : 15 lbs, 8 oz | Sampson Pond | Walter Bolonis - 1975 |
New York: 11 lbs, 4 oz. Buckhorn Lake. John L. Higbie - 1987
Just thought you'd like to know.
Further North reply :
On 6/23/2017 at 11:08 AM, bigfruits said:the largest bass in the world has probably never been caught.
...or it was caught a few times early on and has learned to avoid hooks ever since.
On 6/24/2017 at 4:41 AM, scaleface said:Try a chicken nugget .
...or a whole chicken...
MassYak85 reply :
On 6/24/2017 at 5:01 AM, Further North said:...or it was caught a few times early on and has learned to avoid hooks ever since.
...or a whole chicken...
Don't give savage gear any more ideas
Bluebasser86 reply :
I think we've all heard the stories about monster bass in the local lake or pond, usually from someone who had a close encounter with the great white whale, but lost her due to some unfortunate mishap.
Good luck in your ventures, no matter how unlikely they may be, you can't catch it if you don't try right?
CroakHunter reply :
If my calculations and research on indiana largemouth are correct, that fish would have to be approximately 78 years old to reach 21lbs and living in a very southern indiana growing season in a super private pit with more shad and bluegill and crawdads to eat than you can shake a stick or stick bait at.
A-Jay reply :
There's always a 'chance' this fish could exist. However, experienced students of the sport will stand fast on the notion that the chance in this case, is most likely minute. Sort of like hitting the Powerball twice in a row. I will admit to leaning heavily in that direction as well.
"Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living, it's a way of looking at life through the wrong end of a telescope, and that enables you to laugh at life's realities."
Although not known as a Basshead, Dr. Seuss may have been onto something.
A-Jay
shimmy reply :
While I agree it is pretty much impossible for a bass to reach that size there, I will say, that may be the only state in the country it is possible. If I am correct, I believe Massachusetts' state record was the biggest northern strain largemouth bass ever caught. Now, to have an extra 4.5 pounds and assuming the old record was measured accurately, it would have to come from Massachusetts to reach that size. Ain't happening though!
primetime reply :
I believe the record bass caught in Mass was in a pond that had some connection to the Ocean, and therefore had an unusual amount and type of Mullet or Big shad living in it. It was kind of the perfect Situation of Smaller Pond, Good water & Protein rich forage, genetics, and the perfect cast that we all dream of.
I don't doubt that Scuba Divers think they see 20lb bass when diving lakes, Fish always look bigger in the water and we all know that many people will catch the infamous 8-10lb bass which is then a solid 4lber when you see the picture.
We had an accident on a Local Florida lake a few years back and they had divers in the water for days. I was working at the local tackle shop at the time, and I heard about 20lb bass being seen, and all the stories put the Fish in the same area.
30-40 Foot hole and/or a deep 30' hole with an old bus or boat on the bottom. I tried getting GPS coordinates for the "hole", and I am 100% certain, these guys misjudged or exaggerated these stories.
There are no holes that deep in the lake. Nothing over 20-24' Max. If they were so wrong on the depth, then that makes the 20lb Bass more like 10-12, and that would make sense.
I still think the next Huge Bass close to the record will end up coming from either Florida, Texas, or California in a lake that does not get alot of attention, maybe one of the lakes that was great in the 80's, but now is not popular. I always figure the genetics are still in those Lakes, and catching big Southern Strain Bass are extremely difficult to catch on lures. There is a Lake in Florida called Lake Apopka which I think Holds a possible record. Little Pressure, Tons of bait, and perfect location. I will still gladly settle for 15lbs in my life, I doubt it happens unless I fish every day with Live Shiners or Shad.
pondbassin101 reply :
On 6/25/2017 at 9:18 AM, primetime said:There is a Lake in Florida called Lake Apopka which I think Holds a possible record. Little Pressure, Tons of bait, and perfect location. I will still gladly settle for 15lbs in my life, I doubt it happens unless I fish every day with Live Shiners or Shad.
I know where I'm going next saturday
Boomstick reply :
Let me guess, these "divers" are somebody's uncle's second cousin's in laws great uncle?
J Francho reply :
The NY state record is not valid, in my opinion. It was not caught on a public lake, but in a private pond and is VERY suspect. The largest I've heard of in NY was a little over 9 lbs.
I've never heard of any northern strain largemouth that approached the 20 lb. mark, let alone exceeds it.
Sholt reply :
I understand that this is probably not true, but there are big fish in the pond, it has two 90 foot holes and a few 30-40 holes. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain that northern bass do not get that large. I love fishing stories so I will continue to believe there is a state record bass in that pond.
Turtle135 reply :
On 6/26/2017 at 9:28 PM, Sholt said:I understand that this is probably not true, but there are big fish in the pond, it has two 90 foot holes and a few 30-40 holes. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain that northern bass do not get that large. I love fishing stories so I will continue to believe there is a state record bass in that pond.
and in your pursuit of the mythical monster you may catch some very respectable bass along the way
p.s. - if that pond stratifies in the summer (likely) those deep holes are probably below the thermocline (insufficient oxygen levels below the thermocline) so you will want to concentrate your efforts in shallower water above the thermocline
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