Is it just me or... 2024
NCbassraider reply :
...is there a disturbing number of people who don't have a scale to weigh their fish and who lay the fish on the ground to take a photo? I don't care what someone has told you, this is bad for the fish. There is a reason there is a time penalty for fish on carpet in MLF. Try to remember that.
mixel reply :
It's not just you.
My take is this. We live in the look-at-me era of digital everything. GoPros, camera phones, selfie sticks, social media, and a whole lot of crafty marketing from some really big companies has convinced the current generation that a selfie is worth more than any 'experience' and above all else, make sure you 'get the shot'. That's what really matters these days. Sadly.
dwh4784 reply :
I weigh any fish I think is even close to 2lb. I like to document my trips so I can remember weights/methods etc. My scale fits easily in my tackle bag, really no reason not to have a weight on anything. My wife caught a smallmouth last year she proclaimed "huge". I felt a little bad when I burst her bubble with a 13oz scale reading. Still a good fish for her, and that smallie was as black as coal.
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
I did not know lay bass on grass is bad for them, I tried to avoid bare gound or rock. In that case I wouldnt do it again, but then If I wanna measure the fish what do I do? Is it bad if fish lay on boat carpet like this?
samwise2u reply :
I too measure most fish. Will weigh them when they get up to the 20" mark. I do know that bass have a protective coating on them and anything that touches the fish affects that coating, hands, net, carpet, grass and the side of the boat. I try to get the fish back in the water as quick as possible. Usually take a picture of the first one and anything 5lbs or more.
Logan S reply :
Meh, people are going to do what they do. I take pics of fish on the carpet occasionally if I'm alone in the boat. I boat flip fish a lot too. I'm not going to intentionally cause undue harm to the fish, but I'm not going to walk on eggshells either. Everyone starts somewhere, new anglers are often so excited to catch a nice fish that they don't realize what they're doing. As they catch more fish their fish care will get better.
On 1/16/2017 at 12:35 PM, NCbassraider said:There is a reason there is a time penalty for fish on carpet in MLF.
MLF is a made-for-TV program and the penalties are just TV fodder...If MLF's rules were actually geared toward protecting fish they would force the anglers to land fish in rubber landing nets while still not letting it hit the carpet. The landing penalties are there to make the angler flip or hand-land the fish, which provides more of an opportunity for lost fish or barely landed fish - AKA Drama. I enjoy MLF very much, but I recognize it for what it is.
Hawghead reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 11:20 PM, Logan S said:Meh, people are going to do what they do. I take pics of fish on the carpet occasionally if I'm alone in the boat. I boat flip fish a lot too. I'm not going to intentionally cause undue harm to the fish, but I'm not going to walk on eggshells either. Everyone starts somewhere, new anglers are often so excited to catch a nice fish that they don't realize what they're doing. As they catch more fish their fish care will get better.
MLF is a made-for-TV program and the penalties are just TV fodder...If MLF's rules were actually geared toward protecting fish they would force the anglers to land fish in rubber landing nets while still not letting it hit the carpet. The landing penalties are there to make the angler flip or hand-land the fish, which provides more of an opportunity for lost fish or barely landed fish - AKA Drama. I enjoy MLF very much, but I recognize it for what it is.
Yeah, i agree on the penalties. The rip their face off hookset, and skip across the water like a stone, and sling into the boat from 15' out through the air is actually "good" for the bass.
Fishes in trees reply :
I take pictures from time to time, but I don't use a scale. Scales lie. My scale will read a 6 lb dumb bell perfectly, but when I put a fish on it that is obviously 5 lbs +, the scale reads out a 3-14, or 4-8 or something in that range. I've just gotten totally tired of my scale lying to me and so I don't use it any more. It stays in the truck.
A-Jay reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 12:30 AM, Fishes in trees said:I take pictures from time to time, but I don't use a scale. Scales lie. My scale will read a 6 lb dumb bell perfectly, but when I put a fish on it that is obviously 5 lbs +, the scale reads out a 3-14, or 4-8 or something in that range. I've just gotten totally tired of my scale lying to me and so I don't use it any more. It stays in the truck.
I had the same situation my self.
Couldn't for the life of me understand how my scale could tell the difference between a certified weight and a bass ? ? ?
Then I realized I needed to recalibrate my "obviously".
Once completed, the scale was very accurate.
A-Jay
Darren. reply :
I remember one of my digi-scales, it was new at
the time, was set to kilograms. I couldn't for the
life of me understand why the bass I weighed
were so under the visual weight. 
After I realized
my error, all the bass were proper! Then I lost
the scale to Davey Jones' Locker...
As for bass on the ground, it is not good for them,
of course, but hopefully those who do such get 'em
back ASAP.
I do lay bass on my Hawg Trough in order to measure.
But I also consider myself a conservator when it comes
to nature, so I try to get each fish back ASAP.
NCbassraider reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 11:20 PM, Logan S said:Meh, people are going to do what they do. I take pics of fish on the carpet occasionally if I'm alone in the boat. I boat flip fish a lot too. I'm not going to intentionally cause undue harm to the fish, but I'm not going to walk on eggshells either. Everyone starts somewhere, new anglers are often so excited to catch a nice fish that they don't realize what they're doing. As they catch more fish their fish care will get better.
MLF is a made-for-TV program and the penalties are just TV fodder...If MLF's rules were actually geared toward protecting fish they would force the anglers to land fish in rubber landing nets while still not letting it hit the carpet. The landing penalties are there to make the angler flip or hand-land the fish, which provides more of an opportunity for lost fish or barely landed fish - AKA Drama. I enjoy MLF very much, but I recognize it for what it is.
Some truth to this but we'll agree to disagree on the rest.
On 1/17/2017 at 3:45 PM, JustJames said:I did not know lay bass on grass is bad for them, I tried to avoid bare gound or rock. In that case I wouldnt do it again, but then If I wanna measure the fish what do I do? Is it bad if fish lay on boat carpet like this?
It is not great for them. Over handling or lying them on anything is not a good idea, no matter who tries to justify it. They're made to be in water.
TnRiver46 reply :
"Is it just me" or does this discussion seem like it came from a trout magazine?
J Francho reply :
Carpet is a no-no. A wet, smooth surface is okay. Wet grass is fine, breaded in gravel and dirt is not. You should see how delicate trout fingerlings are handled at hatcheries, and how they're added to streams when stocking.
A-Jay reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 2:29 AM, J Francho said:Carpet is a no-no. A wet, smooth surface is okay. Wet grass is fine, breaded in gravel and dirt is not. You should see how delicate trout fingerlings are handled at hatcheries, and how they're added to streams when stocking.
A-Jay
RichF reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 1:41 AM, NCbassraider said:
Some truth to this but we'll agree to disagree on the rest.
It is not great for them. Over handling or lying them on anything is not a good idea, no matter who tries to justify it. They're made to be in water.
I'm not trying to be a butt, but...you may be climbing a slippery slope here, especially since you're pic shows you spreading the mouth of a bass pretty wide with a foreign object, all while holding its body with your bare hands (which we all know aids in the removal of the fish's slime coat)...
Now in all honesty, I don't like seeing fish on the ground/carpet in pics either and do my very best to handle fish with the upmost care. That being said, I also think that bass are a pretty hearty species and can handle being handled quite a bit better than others like trout. Obviously, this is not an open invitation to treat bass like trash. Most of us on here don't wanna intentionally cause any harm to the resource we love so much.
NCbassraider reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 2:52 AM, RichF said:
I'm not trying to be a butt, but...you may be climbing a slippery slope here, especially since you're pic shows you spreading the mouth of a bass pretty wide with a foreign object, all while holding its body with your bare hands (which we all know aids in the removal of the fish's slime coat)...
It's a fish grabber and is probably safer for the fish than putting your hand in and under its mouth. I use them to attach the scale when weighing because it is safer than gill hooking them. I am not using it to spread the mouth, and I'm cradling the fish as to not hurt it's jaw but only after wetting my hand to minimize any slime removal.
My guess is I treat the fish I catch with as much, if not more respect than almost anyone.
Choporoz reply :
While watching Roland Martin with John Crews this weekend, I kept yelling at the TV...."Put the fish back in the water, already!"
J Francho reply :
I sing to them before I release them...."Born Free" is one of their favorites.
Here's the deal:
Don't put them on anything abrasive or rough. If it would hurt your eyeball, it's probably not the best surface.
Wet your hands, and any surface you may set them on.
Don't bread your catch in dirt and gravel.
A Fish Grip is better than dropping them, or jamming the scale hook through gill plate.
Remember, it may be a non angler that sees how you treat the fish, and those impressions can last a lifetime, no matter how wrong they are, so use some uncommon sense - dig deep for it.
Most of all, let's use this thread to educate, not lynch other anglers.
A-Jay reply :
Half way through last season I started using a silicone mat.
I think it's a little better on the fish than the carpet as well as keeping the fish slime (and any blood) off the boat carpet.
It's flexible so I can roll it up making it convenient to store, it's easy to clean off (just rinse it in the net) and it's stain resistant & does not absorb odors or anything else.
Just need to ensure it doesn't blow away at WOT .. .. .. ..
A-Jay
J Francho reply :
@wnybassman showed me a trick. You leave your silicone net right on the deck, and lay them on that if you need to.
Jar11591 reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 3:43 AM, J Francho said:I sing to them before I release them...."Born Free" is one of their favorites.
Doubt it, even fish have better taste in music than Kid Rock.
J Francho reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 5:33 AM, Jar11591 said:
Doubt it, even fish have better taste in music than Kid Rock.
Choporoz reply :
I must be old....I didn't even know Kid Rock had a Born Free song....I thought of this when I read above:
NCbassraider reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 3:43 AM, J Francho said:I sing to them before I release them...."Born Free" is one of their favorites.
Here's the deal:
Don't put them on anything abrasive or rough. If it would hurt your eyeball, it's probably not the best surface.
Wet your hands, and any surface you may set them on.
Don't bread your catch in dirt and gravel.
A Fish Grip is better than dropping them, or jamming the scale hook through gill plate.
Remember, it may be a non angler that sees how you treat the fish, and those impressions can last a lifetime, no matter how wrong they are, so use some uncommon sense - dig deep for it.
Most of all, let's use this thread to educate, not lynch other anglers.
Agreed
RMax reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 2:38 AM, A-Jay said:
A-Jay
To add to this
Trout Stocking by PLANE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNag8Clm_n8
A-Jay reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 7:03 AM, RMax said:To add to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNag8Clm_n8
And you'll be glad to know there was an in flight movie for those little flying fish ~
Free Willy ~
A-Jay
CTBassin860 reply :
Obviously laying them down and over handling them damages the slime coating which is harmful.My scale has a built in ntape measure which I can use while looping them to get a roundabout length.if I'm off a 1/8 in. I'm off.My lip grip Jr comes in tomorrow as well so I'm not damaging the gills.Its your sport,respect it.Are there going to be incidents where the fish gets loose? Of course there is.We can't be perfect all the tine,but it doesn't hurt to try.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 2:38 AM, A-Jay said:
A-Jay
My brother lives a mile away from Lake Mission Viejo, albeit over the city border so we don't have regular access to fish the lake. A couple of notes relating to that video:
- Where they are releasing the fish is near the boat rental area, a section that is designated as no fishing. Over a dozen bass in the DD size range have figured out that regular trout stocking in a no fishing area equals a great place to live. They will cruise just outside where these trout are being released and gobble up a few of them for an easy meal while the truck is still dumping. When the trout stocking is done on a regular basis, the fish start showing up before the truck.
- 2 years ago there was a golden algae bloom that devastated 90% of this trophy bass fishery. No trout were stocked from then until last December, when 14,000 lbs were planted over 3 stockings. Problem is there are still residual effects from the golden algae, resulting in these hatchery trout getting a case of lockjaw. It is almost comical, the HOA is actively encouraging people to fish for the trout in hopes that they can catch them all before the water warms up & they end up with another fish kill (this time due to water temps).
scaleface reply :
I like to show off and take selfies of big bass . I have a system . I use a small 6 inch flexible tripod pre mounted on a camera . If I'm in a jon boat . I put the bass on a metal stringer { which puts only a tiny hole in its mouth } to get it back in the water . I set the camera up with the timer set at 10 seconds . Then as quick as I can get the fish off the stringer and push the button . My camera has a setting that will take six pictures at six different settings , so two pictures = 12 . I'm in such a hurry that sometimes I forget to smile and look mad .
lonnie g reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 11:18 PM, samwise2u said:I too measure most fish. Will weigh them when they get up to the 20" mark. I do know that bass have a protective coating on them and anything that touches the fish affects that coating, hands, net, carpet, grass and the side of the boat. I try to get the fish back in the water as quick as possible. Usually take a picture of the first one and anything 5lbs or more.
I do what I think is 3 to 4 and above we don't have those fla. hogs. wish we did!!
iiTzChunky reply :
I do my best to never let the fish hit the ground, but I always carry a scale on my even if I only expect to hook dinkers
John lundeen reply :
On 1/18/2017 at 1:41 AM, NCbassraider said:
Some truth to this but we'll agree to disagree on the rest.
It is not great for them. Over handling or lying them on anything is not a good idea, no matter who tries to justify it. They're made to be in water.
That's right, slime coat on the fish protects it from anything in the water not good to take it off by laying on anything .
brgbassmaster reply :
The not having scale irritates the heck out of me lol. All my fish that are 4 lb or heavier I have pic of fish and pic of fish hanging from scale
MikeWright reply :
I love bass. I also love thrusting a 4/0 EWG hook through its face. Sorry, but I love to horse them in...and the small ones tend to get horsed in on a wake board..oh and I also love the bass doctor and therapist that mends their wounds and helps them sort out their PTSD to bite again tomorrow.
BCline reply :
Buying a digital scale was an illuminating experience. I was stunned to see how many of the 4 - 5 pounders I was catching suddenly became 2 - 3 pounders. I now weigh everything over a pound and log every fish I catch.
A fish on the end of a line is a marvel of science. It is the only object that weighs more in water than it does on land. Ask anyone who has ever had a big one throw a hook.
96ecss reply :
On 2/14/2017 at 9:26 PM, BCline said:Buying a digital scale was an illuminating experience. I was stunned to see how many of the 4 - 5 pounders I was catching suddenly became 2 - 3 pounders. I now weigh everything over a pound and log every fish I catch.
A fish on the end of a line is a marvel of science. It is the only object that weighs more in water than it does on land. Ask anyone who has ever had a big one throw a hook.
This reminds me of an old joke I used to tell to my friend who always over estimates the weight of the fish he catches.
"How do you turn a 5lb bass into a 3lb bass? Weigh it."
Dave
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